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Blessing in Disguise

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posted on 23/2/17

comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
Blessing in disguise getting knocked out a competition when you never win anything? Do you fans not want to see what a trophy looks like?

Would rather finish potless in top 4 only to get your backsides handed to you again by the elite next season? Wierd logic.

Your club is dripping with failure. Wembley is going to kill you next season too. Doubt you'll even finish top 6.
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When you finish 6th with no CL you might feel like your dripping in failure, After you spent all that money you may go out and spend it all over again

Some clubs are so poor all they have is money

posted on 23/2/17

comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wake me up before you MoPo (U17369)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Hengy (U9129)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Wake me up before you MoPo (U17369)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Hengy (U9129)
posted 7 minutes ago
Blessing in disguise to be out the:

League cup
League title
Champions league
Europa league

So we can concentrate on the outside chance of the fa cup and coming top 4
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League Title ?? Really
League Cup?? Worst Silverware you can win
Champions League - we didn't get knocked out of that tonight
Europa League - Meh

Some Fans
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That worst silverware is the only thing we've won for what 20 years

Pathetic how our fans thing these cups are beneath us
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And just out of curiosity out of them 4 competitions do you think is the worst piece of silverware
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Silly question. I could quite easily ask you what's the worst thing to win out of the Premier League, Champions League and FA Cup. Obviously it's the FA Cup, but does that mean it's a competition to be laughed at? Absolutely not.
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Agreed Silverware is Silverware, and the blessing in disguise is that we may actually go on and do something in the FA Cup and still get top 4 (something i would of doubted if we were still in europe)

But the league cup is still the worse piece of silverware in the PL

posted on 23/2/17

A dog shiiiit competition you rarely win. We beat City as well.

You could win the FA Cup ( ok you won't but hypothetically you could) without beating many, or any, decent teams either.

Trophies are trophies no matter who you beat. Even more so when you don't win trophies like Spurs.

posted on 23/2/17

comment by Wake me up before you MoPo (U17369)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Hengy (U9129)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wake me up before you MoPo (U17369)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Hengy (U9129)
posted 7 minutes ago
Blessing in disguise to be out the:

League cup
League title
Champions league
Europa league

So we can concentrate on the outside chance of the fa cup and coming top 4
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League Title ?? Really
League Cup?? Worst Silverware you can win
Champions League - we didn't get knocked out of that tonight
Europa League - Meh

Some Fans
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That worst silverware is the only thing we've won for what 20 years

Pathetic how our fans thing these cups are beneath us
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It is a dog 5hit3 competition

When we won it atleast we beat Chelsea and Arsenal

Utd are gonna win by beating Hull and Southampton


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That's the luck of the draw, doesn't mean the competition is 5hit.

Barca won the champs league in 2015 by beating City, PSG, Bayern and Juventus in the knockouts (all reigning domestic champs at the time) but then Real Madrid won it by beating Roma, Wolfsburg, City and Atleti which is clearly far easier - doesn't mean the CL suddenly went from awesome to awful within 12 months

FYI I'd rather win the capital one cup than the Europa

posted on 23/2/17

Qualify for the Top 4.
Get knocked out Champs League
Get knocked out Europa League
Qualify for the Top 4
Get knocked out of Champs League
Get knocked out of Europa League
Qualify for Top 4....

No thanks. I'd like to win something

comment by Hengy (U9129)

posted on 23/2/17

comment by The Rising Son (U6965)
posted 8 seconds ago
Qualify for the Top 4.
Get knocked out Champs League
Get knocked out Europa League
Qualify for the Top 4
Get knocked out of Champs League
Get knocked out of Europa League
Qualify for Top 4....

No thanks. I'd like to win something
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posted on 23/2/17

comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 52 seconds ago
A dog shiiiit competition you rarely win. We beat City as well.

You could win the FA Cup (ok you won't but hypothetically you could) without beating many, or any, decent teams either.

Trophies are trophies no matter who you beat. Even more so when you don't win trophies like Spurs.
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I think we'll win the FA Cup and come top 4 thats the blessing in disguise

I always feel when a utd fan throw the trophies comment around abit stupid. I never came on here to slam a trophy. I merely said it was a blessing in disguise to be out of 3 competitions and that the league cup is the worst peice of silverware out of the 4

posted on 23/2/17

comment by The Hengy (U9129)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Rising Son (U6965)
posted 8 seconds ago
Qualify for the Top 4.
Get knocked out Champs League
Get knocked out Europa League
Qualify for the Top 4
Get knocked out of Champs League
Get knocked out of Europa League
Qualify for Top 4....

No thanks. I'd like to win something
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Yessss me too

But surely you didnt think we were gonna win all that the fa cup and come top 4

Surely this has improved our chances of atleast one trophy

Is it just me that is seeing the bigger picture???

posted on 23/2/17

Would much rather win the Europe league than finish top 4

posted on 23/2/17

Why is it stupid? I was agreeing Hengy's sentiment that it's silly Spurs fans thinking trophies are beneath them when they don't win any.

I get the logic that going out of Europe could aid your domestic campaign, though.

Though you won't win the FA Cup.

posted on 23/2/17

comment by palmers_spur - you have a woman's hand my lord (U8896)
posted 17 seconds ago
Would much rather win the Europe league than finish top 4
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Obviously!!


<DOH>

posted on 23/2/17

comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Why is it stupid? I was agreeing Hengy's sentiment that it's silly Spurs fans thinking trophies are beneath them when they don't win any.

I get the logic that going out of Europe could aid your domestic campaign, though.

Though you won't win the FA Cup.
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Agree to Disagree

posted on 23/2/17

Why is it stupid? I was agreeing Hengy's sentiment that it's silly Spurs fans thinking trophies are beneath them when they don't win any.
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Do they?

Or did one Spurs fan make you come to that conclusion ?

comment by Hengy (U9129)

posted on 23/2/17

comment by Wake me up before you MoPo (U17369)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Hengy (U9129)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Rising Son (U6965)
posted 8 seconds ago
Qualify for the Top 4.
Get knocked out Champs League
Get knocked out Europa League
Qualify for the Top 4
Get knocked out of Champs League
Get knocked out of Europa League
Qualify for Top 4....

No thanks. I'd like to win something
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Yessss me too

But surely you didnt think we were gonna win all that the fa cup and come top 4

Surely this has improved our chances of atleast one trophy

Is it just me that is seeing the bigger picture???
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It's not the bigger picture it's the only picture left due to failure

posted on 23/2/17

Talk about burying your head in the sand OP.

posted on 23/2/17

Fair enough.

posted on 23/2/17

comment by The Hengy (U9129)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Wake me up before you MoPo (U17369)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Hengy (U9129)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Rising Son (U6965)
posted 8 seconds ago
Qualify for the Top 4.
Get knocked out Champs League
Get knocked out Europa League
Qualify for the Top 4
Get knocked out of Champs League
Get knocked out of Europa League
Qualify for Top 4....

No thanks. I'd like to win something
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Yessss me too

But surely you didnt think we were gonna win all that the fa cup and come top 4

Surely this has improved our chances of atleast one trophy

Is it just me that is seeing the bigger picture???
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It's not the bigger picture it's the only picture left due to failure
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I thought pre match that it wouldnt be the worst thing if we lost the tie. (Travelling around Europe, extra games etc) ofcourse i would love to see us winning it but I know MoPo isnt a fan

I stand by that

I am a realist

You are an optimist

Lets call it a day

posted on 23/2/17

I`m not bothered at all about going out of the Europa, the whole tournament is a complete farce and we should never have been parachuted into it in any case.

I just wish Poch had not played so many first team players, who have now had to play an hour with 10 men 3 days before a PL game. I am now expecting a poor performance against Stoke on the back of this.

I said before we should concentrate on the PL and FA Cup and sack off the Europa, and this is what we should have done.

posted on 23/2/17

comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 34 seconds ago
I`m not bothered at all about going out of the Europa, the whole tournament is a complete farce and we should never have been parachuted into it in any case.

I just wish Poch had not played so many first team players, who have now had to play an hour with 10 men 3 days before a PL game. I am now expecting a poor performance against Stoke on the back of this.

I said before we should concentrate on the PL and FA Cup and sack off the Europa, and this is what we should have done.
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Dont know why youve said that mate you'll get ridiculed, some of us expect 2 trophys and a top 4 position.

Failure if we dont

posted on 23/2/17

We are constantly told that our club doesn't win trophies as if it is the only thing that matters. Utd won the Cup and sacked LVG and when the Arsenal fans when into meltdown over the Bayern result their 2 recent FA Cups seemed long forgotten. Look at poor old Claudios treatment tonight maybe having potential but winning naff all is the way to be.

posted on 23/2/17

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 15 seconds ago
We are constantly told that our club doesn't win trophies as if it is the only thing that matters. Utd won the Cup and sacked LVG and when the Arsenal fans when into meltdown over the Bayern result their 2 recent FA Cups seemed long forgotten. Look at poor old Claudios treatment tonight maybe having potential but winning naff all is the way to be.
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Its all about expectations in football. When the fans get greedy expectations are higher, Arsenal are the biggest example of this. They believe they should win a trophy and challenge for the title

This will result in negativity between fans and more than likely the sacking of a manager.

I always remember when Charlton sacked Curbishley because they began to expect top 4/6 and look at them now

posted on 23/2/17

comment by Wake me up before you MoPo (U17369)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by The Hengy (U9129)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Rising Son (U6965)
posted 8 seconds ago
Qualify for the Top 4.
Get knocked out Champs League
Get knocked out Europa League
Qualify for the Top 4
Get knocked out of Champs League
Get knocked out of Europa League
Qualify for Top 4....

No thanks. I'd like to win something
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Yessss me too

But surely you didnt think we were gonna win all that the fa cup and come top 4

Surely this has improved our chances of atleast one trophy

Is it just me that is seeing the bigger picture???
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When we start winning League / FA Cups and reaching finals of the Europa League, I'd say start looking at bigger picture. Teams like Sevilla or Atletico should be our blueprint. Europa stalwarts, eventual winners, now Champs League regulars with winning mentality.

We're far from being too big for any trophy on offer. I'd rather win a League Cup and finish 5th, than finish 4th and crash out of the Champs League group stages and last 32 of Europa.

Yes this humiliation in the Europa clears up our season to focus on the Top 4, but why is that a good thing, when we exit both tournaments in the early stages the following season? We haven't won a trophy for ages and keep getting embarrassed in Europe, yet fans think losing to Gent is a blessing?

posted on 23/2/17

Spurs have won naff all and still sacked managers. Barca have won loads and still sacked managers. The two are unrelated.

posted on 23/2/17

Right now we're slightly behind where Leeds under O'Leary or Newcastle under Bobby Robson got to in the early 2000s. They fared better in Europe, had a couple of Top 4 finishes, but didn't win anything - not winning anything partly meant they couldn't elevate up to the next level.

Same will happen to us unless we get a trophy or 2, be it the League Cup, Europa or FA cup. Which is why I think exiting a tournament is never a good thing.

posted on 23/2/17

comment by The Rising Son (U6965)
posted 1 minute ago
Right now we're slightly behind where Leeds under O'Leary or Newcastle under Bobby Robson got to in the early 2000s. They fared better in Europe, had a couple of Top 4 finishes, but didn't win anything - not winning anything partly meant they couldn't elevate up to the next level.

Same will happen to us unless we get a trophy or 2, be it the League Cup, Europa or FA cup. Which is why I think exiting a tournament is never a good thing.
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Ill ignore that

Football is at a different age now

Leeds had debt and Newcastle Meh

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