Its a bit scary, they invested £43M to buy the club, but when you look at how much they could make by selling a couple more players this summer, they might well have got their money back & own a good premiership club. (good would be in a past sense obviously)
Don't worry, venkys will spend big.
Sports cars
houses
maybe a couple more fried chicken outlets.
I am trying hard to get my head around this one,we finish in the bottom 5,we struggled against relegation for at least half the season,yet everyone seems to be after our players doesnt make sense in truth.
"I am trying hard to get my head around this one,we finish in the bottom 5,we struggled against relegation for at least half the season,yet everyone seems to be after our players doesnt make sense in truth."
At face value yes. But on other levels it makes perfect sense. You have now seen what confusion and uncertainty can do to a group of sporting individuals, when group harmony, spirt, confidence and togetherness is damaged and affected and when very small margins are the difference between success and failure. We were the classic case of professionally self-destructing for 10 weeks or so, not a squad of rubbish players. It does not take much to affect team spirit and confidence, as we have seen many times before.
We always knew they players were far better than the league placing and results and it was only ultimately due to the fact that they were better than other teams players that we were able to rescue our position when the chips s h 1 t was hitting the fan. I hold them as much to blame as everyone else as some of the individual performances under Kean were very poor.
However, it is still no suprise to me that people are after our players. One poor season as a team does not make you a poor player indivually and most of them are at International level.
Its also no suprise to me they wish to leave.
Spending big is the key, but how do we replace a £16m centre back and a £12m centre back without spending £28m on two centre backs?
As for the 'answer the call' statement, bull!
He was already on more per year than many of us will see in a lifetime, playing for his boyhood club. I'd have answered the call "cufk off red nose"...
The LET says that we now have a 30mln transfer kitty and that we more or less broke the bank trying to keep Jones,now which part of that is true?
Easy way to keep Jones, don't put a clause in his contract! Will this £30m be used to tempt Ronaldiniho and Kaka and end up with a loan move for Lee Bowyer?
If all the money is spent on new players then this could still work out ok for us. If there was one position in the squad where we had depth it was centre half, even if Samba goes we still have Nelsen, Hanley and Givet. Obviously if he goes too we'll need to buy at least one more (preferably one worth around £10m) but the rest of the money can go towards our weaker positions. Cancelling out Samba's fee with another equally priced centre half, we'd then have £25m to spend on a midfielder and a striker. I'm placing my trust in Kean because I desperately wanna be a positive fan again (had enough of the dark side now, its not much fun). He got Jermaine Jones, either our prayers will be answered and he'll sign him + 2/3 others like him, or it'll be p*ssed away and next season will be another struggle. Be a darn interesting summer for a change at least!
Provided we sign Jermaime permanently and get a left back I will be relatively happy.
If we blow a wad of cash on a decent striker then great.
Got a feeling we might just end up with RSC and Mame Diouf.
comment by mcteeth (U2221)
posted 14 minutes ago
Provided we sign Jermaime permanently and get a left back I will be relatively happy.
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so we'd basically end up with the same team as the second half of last season minus Phil Jones (arguably our most consistent performer), and you'd be happy.
which means you'd be happy with a relegation scrap.
wonderful.
what we need is:
A defender to replace Jones.
A midfielder who can create.
2 strikers.
A new manager.
Jerome Anderson and his son to F off.
and i'd be relatively happy.
A defender to replace Jones.
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What like Hanley, Givet and Nelsen?
A midfielder who can create.
------------------------------------------------
What like Hoilett, Dunn and the hopeful emergence of Formica and Rochina.
A new manager.
Jerome Anderson and his son to F off.
-------------------------------------------------------------
You tell em!
How many times have Rovers gone for a big name,they always go to a so called bigger club.I still feel that this is a cash asset exercise with our chicken (friends)owners.How any person can put their trust in Keen is beyond the pale.We got lucky this season,next might be the end.Players going Jones.Nelson,Samba and a few more possibly,it might even turn into a stampede.
Hanley, giver and nelsen, are all vastly inferior to jones. Can you argue with that? So you're happy for our defence to be weaker.
Hoilett is not a creative midfielder. Dunn is passed it, or so last season would suggest. Formica and rochina could be anything.
We do not nearly have the depth in defence that some people are suggesting:
Hanley - promising youngster but unproven
Nelson - another year older, coming back from quite a bad injury, won't have Samba along side him (if sold)
Givet - not someone you would call a solid starting centre half at premiership level even if he is suitable back up
Also, I hope we don't waste any more money keeping Santa Cruz. I thought he was poor nearly every match he played. Our strike force needs quite a big overhaul. Benjani and Roberts are fairly similar players only which we need one of and Mame Diouf often looked like a headless chicken when running towards goal/finishing. We need one decent 8-12 million pound striker along with keeping Niko, Roberts and Formica.
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posted on 9/6/11
Its a bit scary, they invested £43M to buy the club, but when you look at how much they could make by selling a couple more players this summer, they might well have got their money back & own a good premiership club. (good would be in a past sense obviously)
posted on 9/6/11
Don't worry, venkys will spend big.
Sports cars
houses
maybe a couple more fried chicken outlets.
posted on 9/6/11
I am trying hard to get my head around this one,we finish in the bottom 5,we struggled against relegation for at least half the season,yet everyone seems to be after our players doesnt make sense in truth.
posted on 9/6/11
"I am trying hard to get my head around this one,we finish in the bottom 5,we struggled against relegation for at least half the season,yet everyone seems to be after our players doesnt make sense in truth."
At face value yes. But on other levels it makes perfect sense. You have now seen what confusion and uncertainty can do to a group of sporting individuals, when group harmony, spirt, confidence and togetherness is damaged and affected and when very small margins are the difference between success and failure. We were the classic case of professionally self-destructing for 10 weeks or so, not a squad of rubbish players. It does not take much to affect team spirit and confidence, as we have seen many times before.
We always knew they players were far better than the league placing and results and it was only ultimately due to the fact that they were better than other teams players that we were able to rescue our position when the chips s h 1 t was hitting the fan. I hold them as much to blame as everyone else as some of the individual performances under Kean were very poor.
However, it is still no suprise to me that people are after our players. One poor season as a team does not make you a poor player indivually and most of them are at International level.
Its also no suprise to me they wish to leave.
posted on 9/6/11
Spending big is the key, but how do we replace a £16m centre back and a £12m centre back without spending £28m on two centre backs?
As for the 'answer the call' statement, bull!
He was already on more per year than many of us will see in a lifetime, playing for his boyhood club. I'd have answered the call "cufk off red nose"...
posted on 9/6/11
The LET says that we now have a 30mln transfer kitty and that we more or less broke the bank trying to keep Jones,now which part of that is true?
posted on 9/6/11
Easy way to keep Jones, don't put a clause in his contract! Will this £30m be used to tempt Ronaldiniho and Kaka and end up with a loan move for Lee Bowyer?
posted on 9/6/11
If all the money is spent on new players then this could still work out ok for us. If there was one position in the squad where we had depth it was centre half, even if Samba goes we still have Nelsen, Hanley and Givet. Obviously if he goes too we'll need to buy at least one more (preferably one worth around £10m) but the rest of the money can go towards our weaker positions. Cancelling out Samba's fee with another equally priced centre half, we'd then have £25m to spend on a midfielder and a striker. I'm placing my trust in Kean because I desperately wanna be a positive fan again (had enough of the dark side now, its not much fun). He got Jermaine Jones, either our prayers will be answered and he'll sign him + 2/3 others like him, or it'll be p*ssed away and next season will be another struggle. Be a darn interesting summer for a change at least!
posted on 10/6/11
Provided we sign Jermaime permanently and get a left back I will be relatively happy.
If we blow a wad of cash on a decent striker then great.
Got a feeling we might just end up with RSC and Mame Diouf.
posted on 10/6/11
comment by mcteeth (U2221)
posted 14 minutes ago
Provided we sign Jermaime permanently and get a left back I will be relatively happy.
-------------------------------------------------------------
so we'd basically end up with the same team as the second half of last season minus Phil Jones (arguably our most consistent performer), and you'd be happy.
which means you'd be happy with a relegation scrap.
wonderful.
what we need is:
A defender to replace Jones.
A midfielder who can create.
2 strikers.
A new manager.
Jerome Anderson and his son to F off.
and i'd be relatively happy.
posted on 10/6/11
A defender to replace Jones.
-------------------------------------------------
What like Hanley, Givet and Nelsen?
A midfielder who can create.
------------------------------------------------
What like Hoilett, Dunn and the hopeful emergence of Formica and Rochina.
A new manager.
Jerome Anderson and his son to F off.
-------------------------------------------------------------
You tell em!
posted on 10/6/11
How many times have Rovers gone for a big name,they always go to a so called bigger club.I still feel that this is a cash asset exercise with our chicken (friends)owners.How any person can put their trust in Keen is beyond the pale.We got lucky this season,next might be the end.Players going Jones.Nelson,Samba and a few more possibly,it might even turn into a stampede.
posted on 10/6/11
Hanley, giver and nelsen, are all vastly inferior to jones. Can you argue with that? So you're happy for our defence to be weaker.
Hoilett is not a creative midfielder. Dunn is passed it, or so last season would suggest. Formica and rochina could be anything.
posted on 11/6/11
We do not nearly have the depth in defence that some people are suggesting:
Hanley - promising youngster but unproven
Nelson - another year older, coming back from quite a bad injury, won't have Samba along side him (if sold)
Givet - not someone you would call a solid starting centre half at premiership level even if he is suitable back up
Also, I hope we don't waste any more money keeping Santa Cruz. I thought he was poor nearly every match he played. Our strike force needs quite a big overhaul. Benjani and Roberts are fairly similar players only which we need one of and Mame Diouf often looked like a headless chicken when running towards goal/finishing. We need one decent 8-12 million pound striker along with keeping Niko, Roberts and Formica.
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