Jose will bring in a fair few players

He indicated the other day the next two transfer windows will be very important

He'll likely bring in at least another 4/5 players this summer

Hopefully this lot do better than the 6 LVG brought in in his second season

comment by Robb : the Martin Samuel of ja606 (U21234)
posted 18 minutes ago
Positives...

Created more big chances than anyone else - compare that to last seasons dire play

21 games unbeaten is not to be sniffed at. In recent weeks all of the big clubs have lost to smaller sides. We haven't.

Our defence is better. Last season ddg was our best player. We barely notice him now.



There are loads of positives but when we say these some misery guts makes out that we're saying things are perfect. No one is. But they are certainly improving from previous years. Jose wants to build a great side. Let's just wait and see what he does.


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this excuse is wearing thin. We've had many dire games this season so clearly it's a problem within a squad and it's tactics that lost it's attacking identity post fergie and especially after the moyes disaster. we still not recovered.

lvg atleast made us tough to beat and we did well in big games and controlled most of our games.

Mourinho has taken a team with already a well established defence and spent 150m on attack and shown little improvement

what he has served up this season in the PL is simply not good enough but i'll give him the benefit of a second season

We did not control most of our games under LvG.

I'm not buying it, he'll sign about five or six players. The team will look very different next season, you can tell he's not happy with this squad.

comment by Better Call Ander - Football taught by Matt Busby (U11781)
posted 5 minutes ago
We did not control most of our games under LvG.
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we controlled plenty

even went to stamford bridge and anfield at times and outplayed them - how often does that happen!

Positives player wise.

Valencia, Bailly, Rojo, Herrera, Mata, Mik, Zlatan. Romero and DDG

Negatives

Wazza, Blind at LB, Groot, Mike.

Work in progress

Pogba, Shaw, Martial

Arab

Of course we controlled most of our games with LVG.
We finished fiffh on GD to City and won the FA Cup.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 9 minutes ago
Positives player wise.

Valencia, Bailly, Rojo, Herrera, Mata, Mik, Zlatan. Romero and DDG

Negatives

Wazza, Blind at LB, Groot, Mike.

Work in progress

Pogba, Shaw, Martial


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Rooney is finished but has arguably been better at times this season than last.

Blind has been average to be fair. Think he'd be let go if we get the right offer.

Fellaini has had a decent season for a squad player.

Smalling has been ok but has gone back to his injury prone ways.

Whatever the stats say, when I watch United I don't see a team creating loads and just failing to put chances away.

It just seems a typical JM team. Solid defence protected really well and deep from midfield, and a couple of stars going forward given license to try to win the game on their own.

At Chelsea when he won the league he had Costa and Fabregas doing that while pretty much everyone else was a utility player, I don't think he has that at United. Ibra has been decent but no one has else stood out and had a top season in terms of attacking contribution

I guess Zlatan will have a smaller part to play next season (or none, if he goes) and he'll get someone like Griezmann to play alongside what he hopes will be a much improved Pogba.

We had a pretty decent defensive record last year but that was more down to cautious style and De Gea saving us. De Gea has rarely been required to be outstanding this season which is telling.
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This cautious style lol. Did you know Man Utd made the fewest defensive actions and only allowed 123 shots on target last season. DDG had his easiest season of his career last season. Even in CL we had 83 shots to opposition 41 but scored 7 and conceded 7. DDG was only good un the fa cup and against Liverpool in europa league.

I saw a statistic that out of the regular keepers De Gea was 19th busiest in the league out of 20.

Whatever the stats say, when I watch United I don't see a team creating loads and just failing to put chances away.

It just seems a typical JM team. Solid defence protected really well and deep from midfield, and a couple of stars going forward given license to try to win the game on their own.
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Sounds like you could count the games you have watch on one cocck then.

We don't play like that at all.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 6 hours, 16 minutes ago
Arab

Of course we controlled most of our games with LVG.
We finished fiffh on GD to City and won the FA Cup.
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One thing does not mean the other

The only thing we controlled under LVG was holding onto the ball. Very rarely did we control the ability to turn that possession into anything approaching chances on goal.

Hafis ludicrous claim that we actually played a high line is one of the funniest things I've read on this site

To be honest, I'm struggling to see many positives from the season. Our attacking play is quite painful to watch sometimes. Several times on Sunday we were counter attacking and it just fizzled out. A poor pass or poor decision and the chance was gone. We just aren't clinical. Our midfield looks disjointed, Fellaini is just an awful player, Herrera huffs and puffs and only ever has the occasional decent game, Carrick clearly can't influence games like he used to, Miki had a poor start, then had a purple patch, and now looks disinterested at times. Even when he scored on Sunday he almost forgot to celebrate. Our wing play is poor, mainly because we have centre forwards playing there and they're always trying to cut inside. We have no-one who can cross the ball/take corners/take free kicks into the box. And then there's Pogba. I'm desperately trying to find positives in his game, but there just aren't any.

If it wasn't for big Zlatan, we'd be bottom half of the table having spent a kings ransom, and he was a free transfer.

Robb if you see the stats Man Utd had last season spent by a long way the highest time with and without the ball in the final third. Their is a reason why last season we were only behind for around 60 minutes in all 19 home games last season. To put that into perspective we were behind longer against Everton this season in one game then we were behind the whole of last season at home in the league.

Out of 12 European games last season in 11 of them I think we averaged over double the shots as the opposition. Is that LVG fault as well.

comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 4 minutes ago
To be honest, I'm struggling to see many positives from the season. Our attacking play is quite painful to watch sometimes. Several times on Sunday we were counter attacking and it just fizzled out. A poor pass or poor decision and the chance was gone. We just aren't clinical. Our midfield looks disjointed, Fellaini is just an awful player, Herrera huffs and puffs and only ever has the occasional decent game, Carrick clearly can't influence games like he used to, Miki had a poor start, then had a purple patch, and now looks disinterested at times. Even when he scored on Sunday he almost forgot to celebrate. Our wing play is poor, mainly because we have centre forwards playing there and they're always trying to cut inside. We have no-one who can cross the ball/take corners/take free kicks into the box. And then there's Pogba. I'm desperately trying to find positives in his game, but there just aren't any.

If it wasn't for big Zlatan, we'd be bottom half of the table having spent a kings ransom, and he was a free transfer.

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We wouldn't be bottom half of the table. That's a ludicrous thing to say

https://objective-football.blogspot.co.uk/2015/07/territory.html?m=1
Last season 2nd from least time with us in defensive third vs most time spent in final third with and without the ball. I actually find it amazing how people troll LVG for things that are complete opposite to reality. Like reliance on DDG = his lowest amount of saves per game in his career and barely any crosses to deal with.

Anyone who watched us last season know a we played a really high line but because teams played an 8-1-1 formation meant that the weaker teams who were clinical beat us on the isolated breakaways.

comment by Robb : the Martin Samuel of ja606 (U21234)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 4 minutes ago
To be honest, I'm struggling to see many positives from the season. Our attacking play is quite painful to watch sometimes. Several times on Sunday we were counter attacking and it just fizzled out. A poor pass or poor decision and the chance was gone. We just aren't clinical. Our midfield looks disjointed, Fellaini is just an awful player, Herrera huffs and puffs and only ever has the occasional decent game, Carrick clearly can't influence games like he used to, Miki had a poor start, then had a purple patch, and now looks disinterested at times. Even when he scored on Sunday he almost forgot to celebrate. Our wing play is poor, mainly because we have centre forwards playing there and they're always trying to cut inside. We have no-one who can cross the ball/take corners/take free kicks into the box. And then there's Pogba. I'm desperately trying to find positives in his game, but there just aren't any.

If it wasn't for big Zlatan, we'd be bottom half of the table having spent a kings ransom, and he was a free transfer.

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We wouldn't be bottom half of the table. That's a ludicrous thing to say
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Zlatan got you 13 points, so you would sit 8th because of GD, level points with WBA. Robb is correct.

I still remember LVG first season they said we faced a barrage of shots when in reality we allowed the fewest. They said we had no chance against the better teams= we topped that table against top third teams and beat them easily. They said we hoof it but we actually had best pass completion percentage.

Remember away to Watford pregame they said Schweinsteiger spends all the time near the back 4 when in reality he played that game high up and forced the winner from 2yards out.

They also always complained about home games but we also topped that table while LVG was in charge and I think we had near the best if not best ratio of goals for and against at home.

Robb said we were not so good in the big games but if we matched our record against the current top 7 sides vs those same sides last season we would be title favourites.

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 7 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 8 minutes ago
I don't think it will have much of an impact on next season. There's still work to do on this squad, so the chances of the majority of the team being the same as the one that has gone on such a long unbeaten run isn't that likely.
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Jose already said there won't be wholesale changes. The likes of Rashford, Martial, Shaw, Mhki, Pogba and Bailly will go up a level from this season imo.
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The only level Shaw is going is down or out.hope to see someone brought in who can actually do something going forward.

Here's some negatives to balance it out.

Pogba- worst ever world record signing. Seemingly don't know his best position and only turns up against small teams.

Jose- poor man management at times. The Shaw thing whilst it may have worked was poor form.

Full back positions. Valencia aside, all poor options. Shaw is awful in attack, blind seems to have regressed darmain - see Shaw.

Attack- miss far too many chances. All forwards except ibra have been poor.

The only positive from this season is we won the league cup and are favourites in the Europa Leahue as the teams left in it are not the best. League wise it's been frustrating.

comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 7 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 8 minutes ago
I don't think it will have much of an impact on next season. There's still work to do on this squad, so the chances of the majority of the team being the same as the one that has gone on such a long unbeaten run isn't that likely.
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Jose already said there won't be wholesale changes. The likes of Rashford, Martial, Shaw, Mhki, Pogba and Bailly will go up a level from this season imo.
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The only level Shaw is going is down or out.hope to see someone brought in who can actually do something going forward.

Here's some negatives to balance it out.

Pogba- worst ever world record signing. Seemingly don't know his best position and only turns up against small teams.

Jose- poor man management at times. The Shaw thing whilst it may have worked was poor form.

Full back positions. Valencia aside, all poor options. Shaw is awful in attack, blind seems to have regressed darmain - see Shaw.

Attack- miss far too many chances. All forwards except ibra have been poor.
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Shaw is awful in attack....in both his games in the last 3 months,get off his back for a change he was responsible for winning a pen v Everton or does that not count in your world. He is the best option there at the moment and not sure you have ever kicked a ball in the park with some of your reasoning.

I think you have to be careful on the 'we create lots of chances' thing. Same is said at City. It's misleading. Failure to convert chances generally means that you lack pace and movement. The chances aren't good enough - it's not a strength, it's a weakness.