Coq and Ramsey is a midfield that I always think should work but when they have payed together there seems to be a lack of understanding that can be an issue. They don't seem to live up to my expectations. I think you are right though and we have to use them, but I do have concerns about it.
I certainly wouldnt start Xhaka and have just posted on another forum that this is the sort of game that I think his defensive liabilities will be exposed. Too many times he lets players run past him, doesnt try to track runners, etc. We have conceded too many goals in our poor run where he let players with key contributions to goals get past him unchallenged. Picking up Townsend and then standing there while Townsend made a run to score for Palace comes to mind. Get goal side and try to track him ffs, put players under pressure. It doesnt have to be a lunging tackle to make a difference defensively Look at Ramsey for that. Often pops up to win a key ball (as he did at least twice against City but unnoticed by most of our fans) and all over the place putting players under pressure.
Win midfield and we can win the game, but I dont see Wenger getting it right.
"another anonymous performance from Walcott"
Welbeck touches v Palace - 19. v West Ham - 25. Anonymous.
As for "the ball bouncing off Giroud a thousand times" - Welbeck looks like he is wearing concrete boots when he tries to control the ball.
Nice attempt to keep the Welbeck myth alive, but he is a shocking player.
I think Elneny played well very last time at the lane. we need some pace and power in the middle and i would give Elneny a chance. I wonder if Xhaka can manage such a game we his low pace, lack of tracking and limited defensive attributes.
I get what you are saying about Welbeck but the guy is absolutely useless in front of goal. We need more than just a workhorse.
Saying that I guess his physical attributes could be utilised if we are going there to defend and come away with a point.
Ozil is my biggest worry today. Spurs team are the worst team for him to play against. He will get harassed, pressed and just completely run over in the middle of the park
The team will be exactly the same as it was v city
They're going to look to dominate in the middle and squeeze high up the pitch and another anonymous performance from Walcott, or the ball bouncing off Giroud a thousand times would put us under a lot of pressure. Welbeck is a lot less lethal infront of goal than those 2, but his physicality and aggression and workrate and drifting movement would work the Spurs backline a lot more and get us further up the pitch to compete.
Where was that from Welbeck before? Think I watched a different game than.
I think Elneny played well very last time at the lane. we need some pace and power in the middle and i would give Elneny a chance. I wonder if Xhaka can manage such a game we his low pace, lack of tracking and limited defensive attributes.
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Elneny is even worse than Xhaka defensively. Sure, he runs around a lot like a marathoner, but he never seems to make a tackle. Xhaka is stronger in the challenge and wins a lot more balls. Elneny is useful when the team is dominating as he's really good at simply recycling the ball and providing continuity and rhythm. But I can guarantee you we won't dominate today's game.
Welbeck touches v Palace - 19. v West Ham - 25. Anonymous.
As for "the ball bouncing off Giroud a thousand times" - Welbeck looks like he is wearing concrete boots when he tries to control the ball.
Nice attempt to keep the Welbeck myth alive, but he is a shocking player.
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Welbeck's hold-up play is more effective than Giroud's because of his greater agility and physicality. I haven't said his touch is wonderful. He's a softer touch than Walcott and less likely to be bullied off the ball.
We will have barely 40% possession today
Agree about Xhaka, think he'll get roasted if he starts today. If wenger tells coquelin to just sit and not press forward like has been at times this season, then him and ramsey should work well.
agree about welbeck aswell, his overall play has been horrendous but he occupies centre backs far better than giroud. hopefully he can contribute something meaningful today, with giroud always a good option off the bench.
need big performances from sanchez and ozil today.
(although im not banking on ozil).
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posted 9 minutes ago
Welbeck touches v Palace - 19. v West Ham - 25. Anonymous.
As for "the ball bouncing off Giroud a thousand times" - Welbeck looks like he is wearing concrete boots when he tries to control the ball.
Nice attempt to keep the Welbeck myth alive, but he is a shocking player.
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Welbeck's hold-up play is more effective than Giroud's because of his greater agility and physicality. I haven't said his touch is wonderful. He's a softer touch than Walcott and less likely to be bullied off the ball.
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All you said here is wrong.
I'd start Xhaka. One of his best performances this season was at home vs Spurs. Coq looks lost at the moment and badly cost us at WHL last season
I know it won't happen but I'd bench Ozil for this one and go with Alexis, Welbeck and Theo up front and just hope to punish them on the break. They are gonna dominate midfield and have 60%+ possession so our only hope is to defend deep and get them on the break.
Ozil will be the biggest liability today. If wenger had the balls, he wouldn't pick him this afternoon
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 8 minutes ago
I'd start Xhaka. One of his best performances this season was at home vs Spurs. Coq looks lost at the moment and badly cost us at WHL last season
I know it won't happen but I'd bench Ozil for this one and go with Alexis, Welbeck and Theo up front and just hope to punish them on the break. They are gonna dominate midfield and have 60%+ possession so our only hope is to defend deep and get them on the break.
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Theo didnt deserve a start. Had two chances in a row now and didnt take it.
Xhaka....yes of course has to start. Intelligent enough to control himself.
We've got too many players with flaws in their game. Welbeck (finishing), Xhaka (defending, pace), Ramsey (final ball), Giroud (everything except finish), etc.
If we are going to stick with wingbacks I think a 5-3-1 formation when defending moving to a 3-6-1 when attacking would work best with the players we have. 3 CB's with Moneal and Bellerin as the wingbacks. Coq as a DM. Iwobi, Ozil and Walcott and Sanchez up front. This would give us the extra defensive strength that the current formation does and use some of the attacking strength from the start of the season. 6 primarily defensive players with the wingbacks also joining attack leaving 4 to cover. And when they move up, 6 attacking players.
Of course it doesnt matter what we would like to try as we dont get to do training with the players to try out and fine tune our ideas to see if we can make it work.
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 8 minutes ago
I'd start Xhaka. One of his best performances this season was at home vs Spurs. Coq looks lost at the moment and badly cost us at WHL last season
I know it won't happen but I'd bench Ozil for this one and go with Alexis, Welbeck and Theo up front and just hope to punish them on the break. They are gonna dominate midfield and have 60%+ possession so our only hope is to defend deep and get them on the break.
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Theo didnt deserve a start. Had two chances in a row now and didnt take it.
Xhaka....yes of course has to start. Intelligent enough to control himself.
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Totteringham are exactly the sort of team with pace and intensity that will destroy Xhaka. Xhaka was at fault not putting the effort in defensively that helped Palace to 2 of their goals and has done the same in many other matches.
Dont take my word for it, every time they get the ball watch what he does and you will see attack after attack where a key player runs away from him and he doesnt even try to stop them.
If he plays I would prefer he is the player left up the pitch to pick up the ball when it comes out so other players dont rely on him defensively, although with his pace it would have to be played directly to him.
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posted 7 minutes ago
We've got too many players with flaws in their game. Welbeck (finishing), Xhaka (defending, pace), Ramsey (final ball), Giroud (everything except finish), etc.
If we are going to stick with wingbacks I think a 5-3-1 formation when defending moving to a 3-6-1 when attacking would work best with the players we have. 3 CB's with Moneal and Bellerin as the wingbacks. Coq as a DM. Iwobi, Ozil and Walcott and Sanchez up front. This would give us the extra defensive strength that the current formation does and use some of the attacking strength from the start of the season. 6 primarily defensive players with the wingbacks also joining attack leaving 4 to cover. And when they move up, 6 attacking players.
Of course it doesnt matter what we would like to try as we dont get to do training with the players to try out and fine tune our ideas to see if we can make it work.
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^5-4-1, not 5-3-1.
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posted 51 minutes ago
Welbeck touches v Palace - 19. v West Ham - 25. Anonymous.
As for "the ball bouncing off Giroud a thousand times" - Welbeck looks like he is wearing concrete boots when he tries to control the ball.
Nice attempt to keep the Welbeck myth alive, but he is a shocking player.
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Welbeck's hold-up play is more effective than Giroud's because of his greater agility and physicality. I haven't said his touch is wonderful. He's a softer touch than Walcott and less likely to be bullied off the ball.
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Welbecks hold up play is better than Giroud WTF!!!!!!!!
You are confusing athleticism and hold up play. Do you know what hold up play is?
Can't see anything but a heavy defeat for us today. Will be carnage in midfield today. Will be Hobbits vs Orks.
comment by taxidriver (U21039)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 51 minutes ago
Welbeck touches v Palace - 19. v West Ham - 25. Anonymous.
As for "the ball bouncing off Giroud a thousand times" - Welbeck looks like he is wearing concrete boots when he tries to control the ball.
Nice attempt to keep the Welbeck myth alive, but he is a shocking player.
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Welbeck's hold-up play is more effective than Giroud's because of his greater agility and physicality. I haven't said his touch is wonderful. He's a softer touch than Walcott and less likely to be bullied off the ball.
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Welbecks hold up play is better than GiroudWTF!!!!!!!!
You are confusing athleticism and hold up play. Do you know what hold up play is?
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I thought the myth of Giroud being good at hold up play had been proven to be completely false, but it appears there are some who still wear the rose tinted spectacles.
I'm no fan of Xhaka but he was our best player in the NLD at the Emirates and for that reason I'd give him a go.
Also Theo has a good record vs Spurs, he's always looked dangerous vs them if he's not scoring or creating. I'd start him but I wouldn't be disappointed to see Ox at RWF with Bellerin playing RWB.
Giroud simply must not start. Every time we go to WHL he is completely useless and his recent performances have been nowhere near good enough
Yep mf will get a real hammering today and I can't see us getting anything but overun
3-1 or 4-1 to Spurs
comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 1 minute ago
Yep mf will get a real hammering today and I can't see us getting anything but overun
3-1 or 4-1 to Spurs
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After your predictions of hammerings v Man City both in the league and the cup one would have thought you would have grown a pair, manned up and stopped acting like a 3 year old girl.
How can a person be such a miserable caaaaant for so long and not kill himself? Too mentally weak for that as well, you facking pusssssy caaaaant.
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm no fan of Xhaka but he was our best player in the NLD at the Emirates and for that reason I'd give him a go.
Also Theo has a good record vs Spurs, he's always looked dangerous vs them if he's not scoring or creating. I'd start him but I wouldn't be disappointed to see Ox at RWF with Bellerin playing RWB.
Giroud simply must not start. Every time we go to WHL he is completely useless and his recent performances have been nowhere near good enough
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When was the last time Theo played well against Spurs? Theo is in a bad form and shouldnt start.
I havent got anything to start Welbeck today but the myth that sourround him and he played better than Giroud recently is completely wrong. Its just you cant stand Giroud and him as player.
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posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 51 minutes ago
Welbeck touches v Palace - 19. v West Ham - 25. Anonymous.
As for "the ball bouncing off Giroud a thousand times" - Welbeck looks like he is wearing concrete boots when he tries to control the ball.
Nice attempt to keep the Welbeck myth alive, but he is a shocking player.
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Welbeck's hold-up play is more effective than Giroud's because of his greater agility and physicality. I haven't said his touch is wonderful. He's a softer touch than Walcott and less likely to be bullied off the ball.
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Welbecks hold up play is better than GiroudWTF!!!!!!!!
You are confusing athleticism and hold up play. Do you know what hold up play is?
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Seems you're one of those who still buys the myth that Giroud is a good hold-up player. Or perhaps, you don't know what hold-up play is either and you've chosen to project that ignorance. Thanks for the English lessons though.
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posted on 30/4/17
Coq and Ramsey is a midfield that I always think should work but when they have payed together there seems to be a lack of understanding that can be an issue. They don't seem to live up to my expectations. I think you are right though and we have to use them, but I do have concerns about it.
I certainly wouldnt start Xhaka and have just posted on another forum that this is the sort of game that I think his defensive liabilities will be exposed. Too many times he lets players run past him, doesnt try to track runners, etc. We have conceded too many goals in our poor run where he let players with key contributions to goals get past him unchallenged. Picking up Townsend and then standing there while Townsend made a run to score for Palace comes to mind. Get goal side and try to track him ffs, put players under pressure. It doesnt have to be a lunging tackle to make a difference defensively Look at Ramsey for that. Often pops up to win a key ball (as he did at least twice against City but unnoticed by most of our fans) and all over the place putting players under pressure.
Win midfield and we can win the game, but I dont see Wenger getting it right.
posted on 30/4/17
"another anonymous performance from Walcott"
Welbeck touches v Palace - 19. v West Ham - 25. Anonymous.
As for "the ball bouncing off Giroud a thousand times" - Welbeck looks like he is wearing concrete boots when he tries to control the ball.
Nice attempt to keep the Welbeck myth alive, but he is a shocking player.
posted on 30/4/17
I think Elneny played well very last time at the lane. we need some pace and power in the middle and i would give Elneny a chance. I wonder if Xhaka can manage such a game we his low pace, lack of tracking and limited defensive attributes.
posted on 30/4/17
I get what you are saying about Welbeck but the guy is absolutely useless in front of goal. We need more than just a workhorse.
Saying that I guess his physical attributes could be utilised if we are going there to defend and come away with a point.
Ozil is my biggest worry today. Spurs team are the worst team for him to play against. He will get harassed, pressed and just completely run over in the middle of the park
posted on 30/4/17
The team will be exactly the same as it was v city
posted on 30/4/17
They're going to look to dominate in the middle and squeeze high up the pitch and another anonymous performance from Walcott, or the ball bouncing off Giroud a thousand times would put us under a lot of pressure. Welbeck is a lot less lethal infront of goal than those 2, but his physicality and aggression and workrate and drifting movement would work the Spurs backline a lot more and get us further up the pitch to compete.
Where was that from Welbeck before? Think I watched a different game than.
posted on 30/4/17
I think Elneny played well very last time at the lane. we need some pace and power in the middle and i would give Elneny a chance. I wonder if Xhaka can manage such a game we his low pace, lack of tracking and limited defensive attributes.
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Elneny is even worse than Xhaka defensively. Sure, he runs around a lot like a marathoner, but he never seems to make a tackle. Xhaka is stronger in the challenge and wins a lot more balls. Elneny is useful when the team is dominating as he's really good at simply recycling the ball and providing continuity and rhythm. But I can guarantee you we won't dominate today's game.
posted on 30/4/17
Welbeck touches v Palace - 19. v West Ham - 25. Anonymous.
As for "the ball bouncing off Giroud a thousand times" - Welbeck looks like he is wearing concrete boots when he tries to control the ball.
Nice attempt to keep the Welbeck myth alive, but he is a shocking player.
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Welbeck's hold-up play is more effective than Giroud's because of his greater agility and physicality. I haven't said his touch is wonderful. He's a softer touch than Walcott and less likely to be bullied off the ball.
posted on 30/4/17
We will have barely 40% possession today
posted on 30/4/17
Agree about Xhaka, think he'll get roasted if he starts today. If wenger tells coquelin to just sit and not press forward like has been at times this season, then him and ramsey should work well.
agree about welbeck aswell, his overall play has been horrendous but he occupies centre backs far better than giroud. hopefully he can contribute something meaningful today, with giroud always a good option off the bench.
need big performances from sanchez and ozil today.
(although im not banking on ozil).
posted on 30/4/17
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 9 minutes ago
Welbeck touches v Palace - 19. v West Ham - 25. Anonymous.
As for "the ball bouncing off Giroud a thousand times" - Welbeck looks like he is wearing concrete boots when he tries to control the ball.
Nice attempt to keep the Welbeck myth alive, but he is a shocking player.
-------------------------------------
Welbeck's hold-up play is more effective than Giroud's because of his greater agility and physicality. I haven't said his touch is wonderful. He's a softer touch than Walcott and less likely to be bullied off the ball.
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All you said here is wrong.
posted on 30/4/17
I'd start Xhaka. One of his best performances this season was at home vs Spurs. Coq looks lost at the moment and badly cost us at WHL last season
I know it won't happen but I'd bench Ozil for this one and go with Alexis, Welbeck and Theo up front and just hope to punish them on the break. They are gonna dominate midfield and have 60%+ possession so our only hope is to defend deep and get them on the break.
posted on 30/4/17
Ozil will be the biggest liability today. If wenger had the balls, he wouldn't pick him this afternoon
posted on 30/4/17
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 8 minutes ago
I'd start Xhaka. One of his best performances this season was at home vs Spurs. Coq looks lost at the moment and badly cost us at WHL last season
I know it won't happen but I'd bench Ozil for this one and go with Alexis, Welbeck and Theo up front and just hope to punish them on the break. They are gonna dominate midfield and have 60%+ possession so our only hope is to defend deep and get them on the break.
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Theo didnt deserve a start. Had two chances in a row now and didnt take it.
Xhaka....yes of course has to start. Intelligent enough to control himself.
posted on 30/4/17
We've got too many players with flaws in their game. Welbeck (finishing), Xhaka (defending, pace), Ramsey (final ball), Giroud (everything except finish), etc.
If we are going to stick with wingbacks I think a 5-3-1 formation when defending moving to a 3-6-1 when attacking would work best with the players we have. 3 CB's with Moneal and Bellerin as the wingbacks. Coq as a DM. Iwobi, Ozil and Walcott and Sanchez up front. This would give us the extra defensive strength that the current formation does and use some of the attacking strength from the start of the season. 6 primarily defensive players with the wingbacks also joining attack leaving 4 to cover. And when they move up, 6 attacking players.
Of course it doesnt matter what we would like to try as we dont get to do training with the players to try out and fine tune our ideas to see if we can make it work.
posted on 30/4/17
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 8 minutes ago
I'd start Xhaka. One of his best performances this season was at home vs Spurs. Coq looks lost at the moment and badly cost us at WHL last season
I know it won't happen but I'd bench Ozil for this one and go with Alexis, Welbeck and Theo up front and just hope to punish them on the break. They are gonna dominate midfield and have 60%+ possession so our only hope is to defend deep and get them on the break.
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Theo didnt deserve a start. Had two chances in a row now and didnt take it.
Xhaka....yes of course has to start. Intelligent enough to control himself.
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Totteringham are exactly the sort of team with pace and intensity that will destroy Xhaka. Xhaka was at fault not putting the effort in defensively that helped Palace to 2 of their goals and has done the same in many other matches.
Dont take my word for it, every time they get the ball watch what he does and you will see attack after attack where a key player runs away from him and he doesnt even try to stop them.
If he plays I would prefer he is the player left up the pitch to pick up the ball when it comes out so other players dont rely on him defensively, although with his pace it would have to be played directly to him.
posted on 30/4/17
comment by Darth Stan Kronke the Sith Lord turned Darthen Wenger to the dark side (U16927)
posted 7 minutes ago
We've got too many players with flaws in their game. Welbeck (finishing), Xhaka (defending, pace), Ramsey (final ball), Giroud (everything except finish), etc.
If we are going to stick with wingbacks I think a 5-3-1 formation when defending moving to a 3-6-1 when attacking would work best with the players we have. 3 CB's with Moneal and Bellerin as the wingbacks. Coq as a DM. Iwobi, Ozil and Walcott and Sanchez up front. This would give us the extra defensive strength that the current formation does and use some of the attacking strength from the start of the season. 6 primarily defensive players with the wingbacks also joining attack leaving 4 to cover. And when they move up, 6 attacking players.
Of course it doesnt matter what we would like to try as we dont get to do training with the players to try out and fine tune our ideas to see if we can make it work.
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^5-4-1, not 5-3-1.
posted on 30/4/17
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 51 minutes ago
Welbeck touches v Palace - 19. v West Ham - 25. Anonymous.
As for "the ball bouncing off Giroud a thousand times" - Welbeck looks like he is wearing concrete boots when he tries to control the ball.
Nice attempt to keep the Welbeck myth alive, but he is a shocking player.
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Welbeck's hold-up play is more effective than Giroud's because of his greater agility and physicality. I haven't said his touch is wonderful. He's a softer touch than Walcott and less likely to be bullied off the ball.
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Welbecks hold up play is better than Giroud WTF!!!!!!!!
You are confusing athleticism and hold up play. Do you know what hold up play is?
posted on 30/4/17
Can't see anything but a heavy defeat for us today. Will be carnage in midfield today. Will be Hobbits vs Orks.
posted on 30/4/17
comment by taxidriver (U21039)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 51 minutes ago
Welbeck touches v Palace - 19. v West Ham - 25. Anonymous.
As for "the ball bouncing off Giroud a thousand times" - Welbeck looks like he is wearing concrete boots when he tries to control the ball.
Nice attempt to keep the Welbeck myth alive, but he is a shocking player.
-------------------------------------
Welbeck's hold-up play is more effective than Giroud's because of his greater agility and physicality. I haven't said his touch is wonderful. He's a softer touch than Walcott and less likely to be bullied off the ball.
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Welbecks hold up play is better than GiroudWTF!!!!!!!!
You are confusing athleticism and hold up play. Do you know what hold up play is?
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I thought the myth of Giroud being good at hold up play had been proven to be completely false, but it appears there are some who still wear the rose tinted spectacles.
posted on 30/4/17
I'm no fan of Xhaka but he was our best player in the NLD at the Emirates and for that reason I'd give him a go.
Also Theo has a good record vs Spurs, he's always looked dangerous vs them if he's not scoring or creating. I'd start him but I wouldn't be disappointed to see Ox at RWF with Bellerin playing RWB.
Giroud simply must not start. Every time we go to WHL he is completely useless and his recent performances have been nowhere near good enough
posted on 30/4/17
Yep mf will get a real hammering today and I can't see us getting anything but overun
3-1 or 4-1 to Spurs
posted on 30/4/17
comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 1 minute ago
Yep mf will get a real hammering today and I can't see us getting anything but overun
3-1 or 4-1 to Spurs
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After your predictions of hammerings v Man City both in the league and the cup one would have thought you would have grown a pair, manned up and stopped acting like a 3 year old girl.
How can a person be such a miserable caaaaant for so long and not kill himself? Too mentally weak for that as well, you facking pusssssy caaaaant.
posted on 30/4/17
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm no fan of Xhaka but he was our best player in the NLD at the Emirates and for that reason I'd give him a go.
Also Theo has a good record vs Spurs, he's always looked dangerous vs them if he's not scoring or creating. I'd start him but I wouldn't be disappointed to see Ox at RWF with Bellerin playing RWB.
Giroud simply must not start. Every time we go to WHL he is completely useless and his recent performances have been nowhere near good enough
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When was the last time Theo played well against Spurs? Theo is in a bad form and shouldnt start.
I havent got anything to start Welbeck today but the myth that sourround him and he played better than Giroud recently is completely wrong. Its just you cant stand Giroud and him as player.
posted on 30/4/17
comment by taxidriver (U21039)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 51 minutes ago
Welbeck touches v Palace - 19. v West Ham - 25. Anonymous.
As for "the ball bouncing off Giroud a thousand times" - Welbeck looks like he is wearing concrete boots when he tries to control the ball.
Nice attempt to keep the Welbeck myth alive, but he is a shocking player.
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Welbeck's hold-up play is more effective than Giroud's because of his greater agility and physicality. I haven't said his touch is wonderful. He's a softer touch than Walcott and less likely to be bullied off the ball.
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Welbecks hold up play is better than GiroudWTF!!!!!!!!
You are confusing athleticism and hold up play. Do you know what hold up play is?
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Seems you're one of those who still buys the myth that Giroud is a good hold-up player. Or perhaps, you don't know what hold-up play is either and you've chosen to project that ignorance. Thanks for the English lessons though.
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