I'd agree with that, although maybe swap Modric with Nani or Young.

maybe im being bias by putting mata in 2nd place but he surely is among the top 5 and its so refreshing to see that because prior to him joining chelsea i dont think a chelsea player would have even made the top 20 in that list!!

also josh is another player at chelsea who given game time would make that top 15-20 list aswell soon...he has that creative spark that we really lack specially before mata arrived!!

What abt wilshere and yaya

I think Rooney is more creative than Modric so it's Silva, Mata and Rooney for me.

Mata and Modric have done nothing so far this season (early days albeit) but my top 3 are:

1) Silva
2) Rooney
3) Mierles

Nasri anyone?

In his first game got 3 assists I think

On Saturday came off the bench and assisted Aguero straightaway.

Certainly should be up there in the list.

1. Silva
2. Nasri
3. Mata

Nasri got 4 assists in 2 games this season, but at the same time only got 1 all of last season.

It depends what you class as creative. Simply creating chances isn't enough, if that was the case then Malouda was the most creative player in the prem last season.

Silva is streets ahead of the rest. Wayne Rooney does fantastic work in bringing others into play, creating space and playing telling passes and Luka Modric controls the pace of the whole team and often plays the pass before the assist. Mata is fantastic and his assist record in Spain speaks for itself.

I'd have

1 Silva
2 Modric
3 Mata
4 Rooney

Nasri got 4 assists in 2 games this season, but at the same time only got 1 all of last season.
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He's now playing at Man City with better forwards and a better team around him and has 4 times as many assists already as he did last season. Proof he's creative alright.

was that sarcasm? or genuinely thinking it is proff that he is a great creative player?

he is good yes, but going on your logic anyone that has a good start at a better club should be in there. Ashley Young?

So setting up for 4 goals in 2 games isnt creative? Ok.

I didn't say that at all, ofcourse it is. I'm judging on more than 2 games for a high flying side tho. Nasri managed only 1 assist in a whole season last year. Yes he is very good and is a naturally creative player, but 2 matches doesn't instantly make him the top creative player in the league. Before saturday, Frank Lampard had created the most chances in the premier league this season, does that make him a top creative player? Simple stats like that are not representative of how creative a player is.

but you quoted Mata's assist record above, saying it speaks for itself how creative he is. Now assists record alone are not good enough to judge how creative a player is?

Ofcourse not. I went on to explain that it depends how you class the creative aspect of a footballer. Mata is much more than just assists, but his record was not just good, it was excellent. If you want to put it to simple stats Didier Drogba, Nani and Charlie Adam were the most creative players in the league last season.

Also Nasri has only upped his assist rate in 2 matches in a high flying free scoring team where as last year he only got 1 in a whole season, this is the point I;m making to you. The stats alone are not proof. Modric is a very creative footballer but rarely gets the final assist.

Ok so Modric is creative without getting final assist. What does that make Nasri who does get the final assist? Not creative?

I think you need to apply the same standards you're applying to Modric to Nasri aswell. His 1 assist last season could mean he's not getting the final assist

you'r clutching now. Malouda created the most chances in the whole premier league last season, does that make him the most creative? no it doesn't. Also if you want to go by just stats then nasri only has 5 assists in just over a year and Modric got more than him last season.

lets clear this up. Do you think creativity is purely measured on assist stats or chances created stats? if it is then there is no debate here, just look up the stats and give the top 3.

Also. I did not say Nasri was not creative. I just said he is not one of the most creative. Usually very selfish on the ball, an excellent dribbler and goal threat, and yes he created some goals for a rampant City side but Silva is the creative spark of that side.

You can;t compare Modric and Nasri that way. Modric controls the tempo and brings a team forward through his passing, always the player to play in the spurs wingers, often leading to chances/goals. Nasri is not that type of player and plays further up the pitch.

All I said was Nasri is a creative player.

You maybe need to rewatch the Spurs City 5-1 game to see how creative Nasri can be. Also take a look at the England France game where he ran the show for 90 mins.

Creativity for me is working out a way to unlock a defence in front of you. Nasri & Silva can both do this job. Who gets the final assist stat is neither here nor there. They're both creative.

Once again, I didn't say he wan't creative, he is creative. I don't care about making the final assist, it was you that argued otherwise. I watched the Spurs game and Nasri put in some great balls after being played in with good passes. My argument was that I don't see how his little spell of assists makes him one of the top 3 creative player in the league. Silva controls everything in that side, it all goes through him. nasri has added to that but isn't on the level of Silva in terms of creativity. He was very good in that france game, Mvila completely controlled the midfield and nasri had lots of freedom. 2 matches are not how I would judge this tho.

to say again to be clear. I did not say Nasri was not a creative player, I just don't think he is up there with the very best in the league.

I think Ive seen more than enough of Nasri to say he is creative

Even with the France game you stil find the need to bring up M'Villa doing all the work in midfield for him. You could say the same about De Jong & Barry too for Silva

for the final time. I DID NOT SAY HE WASN'T CREATIVE. I mentioned M'vila because he was the outstanding player on that day. Silva is on a different level to Nasri, that is all. You obviously have a soft spot for him which is fine and have used 3 different reasons to justify why you think this way as well as going on to then say one of these reasons shouldn't be taken into account.

I'd have Nasri in my top 10 easily. I only began by saying the 4 assists were not representative of his creativity.

I think the partisanship has to stop. Yes, Mata was creative in spanish league but he is fresh and has done nothing here.

In no particular order, i'd go for Rooney, Nani and Silva. I hate Mancity with a passion but Silva is just sublime - in fact, he does two jobs, He runs city's midfield and he links midfield to attack seamlessly. A genius really.

Rooney picks himself.

Nani - he still has a lot to learn, could be less selfish. But he creates chances every single game. In fact, if the chels - k- i stop either of our wingers, they might have some joy against us on sun

I think you're the one using different reasons to suggest Nasri is not creative. First you said he had one assist last year then you said its not all about stats and now you're saying Nasri is good but not as good as Silva. He may not be as good as Silva but he's creative alright. Which is what I originally said if you care to scroll back