I'll take romantic Wolfie. I want to support a team where the players identify with the club and its traditions. Give me a Johnny Richards and Steve Bull over a Steven Fletcher and Benik Afobe anyday. I'll grant you that players bought in from elsewhere have built that connection as well - Sako and Big George in recent years. Buy class by all means but don't take us to a soulless place where joining Wolves is just a transaction and a pit stop on a journey to some place else. I can go to any number of clubs for that. That's football as a commodity.
comment by Brooksey - senza rischio non c'e vittoria (U2087)
posted 6 minutes ago
Anyway do I owe you dinner
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Alas no, the missus vetoed your suggestion and we ended up eating at Ann and Tony's, she didn't choose well unfortunately.
Think there will always be fan favourites Johnny no matter what direction a club goes in
comment by onejohnnyrichards (U17301)
posted 12 minutes ago
I'll take romantic Wolfie. I want to support a team where the players identify with the club and its traditions. Give me a Johnny Richards and Steve Bull over a Steven Fletcher and Benik Afobe anyday. I'll grant you that players bought in from elsewhere have built that connection as well - Sako and Big George in recent years. Buy class by all means but don't take us to a soulless place where joining Wolves is just a transaction and a pit stop on a journey to some place else. I can go to any number of clubs for that. That's football as a commodity.
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I agree with your sentiment, but the club has been bringing in players from outside for many years. No reason to think that big George would have had any less affection for the club that Frank Munro, Andy Gary, or Willie Carr.
comment by Carl Ikeme WWFC#1 (U11551)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Brooksey - senza rischio non c'e vittoria (U2087)
posted 6 minutes ago
Anyway do I owe you dinner
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Alas no, the missus vetoed your suggestion and we ended up eating at Ann and Tony's, she didn't choose well unfortunately.
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Oh that's it put ya bird first... You're going soft
Agree with you onejohnny. Bully, Richards, Dougan players that earned every ounce of support they got from the fans. Fletcher and Afobe always to me looked like guys that thought the world owed them a living, and they never came anywhere near getting the same level of affection from the masses as a consequence.
And of course it's rubbish to say the best players in the world let the ball do the talking. The workrate of the top players is phenominal. Good players have lots of ability or lots of effort. The great players have both.
Of course it is ridiculous isn't it DJ
Can't have both attributes can they? I wonder what it was that got the very best to the top though, their ability on the ball or the fact they could run all day?
No need to answer that as the answer is obvious and one you have answered in the past, the better teams control the ball better and invariably show better possession because they have the better players.
Is still a debate..work rate or technique
comment by Brooksey - senza rischio non c'e vittoria (U2087)
posted 5 minutes ago
Is still a debate..work rate or technique
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You certainly need a bit of both overall but if you were to compare say Dave Edwards and Xavi(yes I am laughing saying that) and consider they both have the same work rate then what is the difference?
It is the technique and vision that is why Xavi is a great and Edwards has spent the last ten years at the 35th best club in England.
I'm going against the grain slightly but I'm happy for a lazy/percieved lazy match winner
Have I just had a vision or did I see mention of Willie Carr
comment by Brooksey - senza rischio non c'e vittoria (U2087)
posted 22 minutes ago
I'm going against the grain slightly but I'm happy for a lazy/percieved lazy match winner
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With you Tino if push came to shove.
Interesting dj mentioned Afobe and Fletcher as they are the two highest scoring wolves to play in the premier league after leaving us for quite some time I believe, possibly since Robbie keane though I may be missing somebody.
Thanks OneJohnny, you've just written the article I have been meaning to write for a month. Couldn't have put it better myself.
Totally agree. Let's hope we can learn to love some of these players, and let's hope thaey can bring us some success.
Should add that we have to have six 'home growns' in a matchday squad so it won't ever be a completely foreign affair.
comment by Carl Ikeme WWFC#1 (U11551)
posted 11 hours, 42 minutes ago
Should add that we have to have six 'home growns' in a matchday squad so it won't ever be a completely foreign affair.
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posted on 9/7/17
I'll take romantic Wolfie. I want to support a team where the players identify with the club and its traditions. Give me a Johnny Richards and Steve Bull over a Steven Fletcher and Benik Afobe anyday. I'll grant you that players bought in from elsewhere have built that connection as well - Sako and Big George in recent years. Buy class by all means but don't take us to a soulless place where joining Wolves is just a transaction and a pit stop on a journey to some place else. I can go to any number of clubs for that. That's football as a commodity.
posted on 9/7/17
comment by Brooksey - senza rischio non c'e vittoria (U2087)
posted 6 minutes ago
Anyway do I owe you dinner
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Alas no, the missus vetoed your suggestion and we ended up eating at Ann and Tony's, she didn't choose well unfortunately.
posted on 9/7/17
Think there will always be fan favourites Johnny no matter what direction a club goes in
posted on 9/7/17
comment by onejohnnyrichards (U17301)
posted 12 minutes ago
I'll take romantic Wolfie. I want to support a team where the players identify with the club and its traditions. Give me a Johnny Richards and Steve Bull over a Steven Fletcher and Benik Afobe anyday. I'll grant you that players bought in from elsewhere have built that connection as well - Sako and Big George in recent years. Buy class by all means but don't take us to a soulless place where joining Wolves is just a transaction and a pit stop on a journey to some place else. I can go to any number of clubs for that. That's football as a commodity.
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I agree with your sentiment, but the club has been bringing in players from outside for many years. No reason to think that big George would have had any less affection for the club that Frank Munro, Andy Gary, or Willie Carr.
posted on 9/7/17
comment by Carl Ikeme WWFC#1 (U11551)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Brooksey - senza rischio non c'e vittoria (U2087)
posted 6 minutes ago
Anyway do I owe you dinner
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Alas no, the missus vetoed your suggestion and we ended up eating at Ann and Tony's, she didn't choose well unfortunately.
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Oh that's it put ya bird first... You're going soft
posted on 9/7/17
Agree with you onejohnny. Bully, Richards, Dougan players that earned every ounce of support they got from the fans. Fletcher and Afobe always to me looked like guys that thought the world owed them a living, and they never came anywhere near getting the same level of affection from the masses as a consequence.
And of course it's rubbish to say the best players in the world let the ball do the talking. The workrate of the top players is phenominal. Good players have lots of ability or lots of effort. The great players have both.
posted on 9/7/17
Of course it is ridiculous isn't it DJ
Can't have both attributes can they? I wonder what it was that got the very best to the top though, their ability on the ball or the fact they could run all day?
No need to answer that as the answer is obvious and one you have answered in the past, the better teams control the ball better and invariably show better possession because they have the better players.
posted on 9/7/17
Exactly. You need both.
posted on 9/7/17
Is still a debate..work rate or technique
posted on 9/7/17
comment by Brooksey - senza rischio non c'e vittoria (U2087)
posted 5 minutes ago
Is still a debate..work rate or technique
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You certainly need a bit of both overall but if you were to compare say Dave Edwards and Xavi(yes I am laughing saying that) and consider they both have the same work rate then what is the difference?
It is the technique and vision that is why Xavi is a great and Edwards has spent the last ten years at the 35th best club in England.
posted on 9/7/17
I'm going against the grain slightly but I'm happy for a lazy/percieved lazy match winner
posted on 9/7/17
Have I just had a vision or did I see mention of Willie Carr
posted on 9/7/17
comment by Brooksey - senza rischio non c'e vittoria (U2087)
posted 22 minutes ago
I'm going against the grain slightly but I'm happy for a lazy/percieved lazy match winner
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With you Tino if push came to shove.
Interesting dj mentioned Afobe and Fletcher as they are the two highest scoring wolves to play in the premier league after leaving us for quite some time I believe, possibly since Robbie keane though I may be missing somebody.
posted on 9/7/17
Thanks OneJohnny, you've just written the article I have been meaning to write for a month. Couldn't have put it better myself.
Totally agree. Let's hope we can learn to love some of these players, and let's hope thaey can bring us some success.
posted on 10/7/17
Should add that we have to have six 'home growns' in a matchday squad so it won't ever be a completely foreign affair.
posted on 10/7/17
comment by Carl Ikeme WWFC#1 (U11551)
posted 11 hours, 42 minutes ago
Should add that we have to have six 'home growns' in a matchday squad so it won't ever be a completely foreign affair.
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Rudders between the sticks and 5 HG's on't bench
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