Root is average against India.. he only just short of 70.
Joe Root plays in a way that puts the pressure back on the bowlers. He may not always make 100s but often he'll come in and turn a bad position into a good one and score quickly. They may not always be match winning contributions as such but often he seems to change the momentum of a game with his batting.
Joe Root is an amazing player. Any team in da world would prefer to have a batsmen of his caliber.
In fact Kohli rated Root higher than him. If u need that source let me know pal.
I think of the 4 batsmen smith is probably the best. Has amazing consistency and also scores plenty of 100s.
Root is probably the 2nd. His conversion is poor, but it scares me what his 100 tally would be if he converted even half of his 50s to 100s. Has amazing consistency and is only 26.
Kohli is still disappointing. He still lacks consistency. He either scores 100s or nothing, and at times goes through long patches of low scores. Reason why he still hovers at an average of less than 50 in tests. Dravid at this stage used to average 59 against way superior bowlers.
Next year and half if kohli doesn't improve on this area he might end being an average batsman with an average of 45.
There you go again.. 50 and out ! He will never be considered a Batting great with such poor conversion rate (converted only 12 of his 42 50+).
I wonder if it's become psychological.
comment by virudagreat- beating India in india is ..... (U8738)
posted 19 hours, 20 minutes ago
I think of the 4 batsmen smith is probably the best. Has amazing consistency and also scores plenty of 100s.
Root is probably the 2nd. His conversion is poor, but it scares me what his 100 tally would be if he converted even half of his 50s to 100s. Has amazing consistency and is only 26.
Kohli is still disappointing. He still lacks consistency. He either scores 100s or nothing, and at times goes through long patches of low scores. Reason why he still hovers at an average of less than 50 in tests. Dravid at this stage used to average 59 against way superior bowlers.
Next year and half if kohli doesn't improve on this area he might end being an average batsman with an average of 45.
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Dont agree mate.
while number shows Smith is clearly ahead of the bunch, the rest 3 are almost equal statistically(similar ave) and Root is worst of them because KW and Kohli have entertained more often with their hundreds, while Root has frustrated the crowd more often after always seeming unable to cross that line.
comment by shiekh (U19310)
posted 6 minutes ago
There you go again.. 50 and out ! He will never be considered a Batting great with such poor conversion rate (converted only 12 of his 42 50+).
I wonder if it's become psychological.
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That's a bit ridiculous, the guy is the 3rd youngest player to reach 5000 runs. He'll be well aware of what's going on and will look to rectify it and start converting more of his 50s into 100s. If he manages that, you'll see his already impressive average start heading towards the 60s.
clearly didn't carry that..
comment by The Candlestick Maker (U8959)
posted 1 day, 9 hours ago
comment by shiekh (U19310)
posted 6 minutes ago
There you go again.. 50 and out ! He will never be considered a Batting great with such poor conversion rate (converted only 12 of his 42 50+).
I wonder if it's become psychological.
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That's a bit ridiculous, the guy is the 3rd youngest player to reach 5000 runs. He'll be well aware of what's going on and will look to rectify it and start converting more of his 50s into 100s. If he manages that, you'll see his already impressive average start heading towards the 60s.
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Really hope so. Think its just psychological atm.
Saw one comment on Cricinfo earlier that goes " Death, taxes & Root failing to convert a fifty into ton"
It could be psychological but I think the captaincy will help him here in the future. This is his first series as captain and he's had a very good series with the bat. Lets not forget that he scored a brilliant 190 in the first match at Lords which set us up for the win.
He's contributed 101 runs with the bat in this game, would it have been any different if he'd scored a 100 in the first innings and a 1 in the second? Like I said earlier in the thread, he often comes in when we're in trouble and changes the momentum of an innings with his runs and the speed at which he scores them.
I don't give a rat's a$$ if he never scores another century but continues to push his average up towards 60. and neither will root. that's why he doesn't convert more - he plays aggressive cricket aimed at winning matches not personal milestones.
a better batsman than smith IMO, regardless of who finishes with the most centuries. and all things being equal one of a very few current batsmen who stand a decent chance of outscoring the great Tendulkar by the end of his career
Cook plays 200 tests like Tendulkar he will over take his record..
At his current average he will just pass him yes. Needs to play for five more years, but certainly no pressure on his place right now!
he's playing India next year that's guaranteed 500 runs!
as for his average being less than Tendulkar.. Cook as had to face the new ball all his career.
With our various poor openers and number 3s so has root 😉
I assume tendulkar's average compared to cook is helped by more not outs due to batting down the order altho i have never checked. Openers will always average a little lower without necessarily scoring fewer runs.
Be great to have two england players as two highest run scorers of all time 😊
To be fair Tendulkar played in an era where there were far better bowlers around. The likes of Wasim, Waqar, McGrath, Warne, Lee, Murali, Ambrose, Walsh, Pollock, Donald etc. This is another reason why he is one of the greatest batsmen of all time. Not sure why people try and look for excuses regarding his stats!
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posted on 31/7/17
Root is average against India.. he only just short of 70.
posted on 31/7/17
Joe Root plays in a way that puts the pressure back on the bowlers. He may not always make 100s but often he'll come in and turn a bad position into a good one and score quickly. They may not always be match winning contributions as such but often he seems to change the momentum of a game with his batting.
posted on 31/7/17
Joe Root is an amazing player. Any team in da world would prefer to have a batsmen of his caliber.
In fact Kohli rated Root higher than him. If u need that source let me know pal.
posted on 3/8/17
I think of the 4 batsmen smith is probably the best. Has amazing consistency and also scores plenty of 100s.
Root is probably the 2nd. His conversion is poor, but it scares me what his 100 tally would be if he converted even half of his 50s to 100s. Has amazing consistency and is only 26.
Kohli is still disappointing. He still lacks consistency. He either scores 100s or nothing, and at times goes through long patches of low scores. Reason why he still hovers at an average of less than 50 in tests. Dravid at this stage used to average 59 against way superior bowlers.
Next year and half if kohli doesn't improve on this area he might end being an average batsman with an average of 45.
posted on 4/8/17
There you go again.. 50 and out ! He will never be considered a Batting great with such poor conversion rate (converted only 12 of his 42 50+).
I wonder if it's become psychological.
posted on 4/8/17
comment by virudagreat- beating India in india is ..... (U8738)
posted 19 hours, 20 minutes ago
I think of the 4 batsmen smith is probably the best. Has amazing consistency and also scores plenty of 100s.
Root is probably the 2nd. His conversion is poor, but it scares me what his 100 tally would be if he converted even half of his 50s to 100s. Has amazing consistency and is only 26.
Kohli is still disappointing. He still lacks consistency. He either scores 100s or nothing, and at times goes through long patches of low scores. Reason why he still hovers at an average of less than 50 in tests. Dravid at this stage used to average 59 against way superior bowlers.
Next year and half if kohli doesn't improve on this area he might end being an average batsman with an average of 45.
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Dont agree mate.
while number shows Smith is clearly ahead of the bunch, the rest 3 are almost equal statistically(similar ave) and Root is worst of them because KW and Kohli have entertained more often with their hundreds, while Root has frustrated the crowd more often after always seeming unable to cross that line.
posted on 4/8/17
comment by shiekh (U19310)
posted 6 minutes ago
There you go again.. 50 and out ! He will never be considered a Batting great with such poor conversion rate (converted only 12 of his 42 50+).
I wonder if it's become psychological.
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That's a bit ridiculous, the guy is the 3rd youngest player to reach 5000 runs. He'll be well aware of what's going on and will look to rectify it and start converting more of his 50s into 100s. If he manages that, you'll see his already impressive average start heading towards the 60s.
posted on 4/8/17
clearly didn't carry that..
posted on 6/8/17
comment by The Candlestick Maker (U8959)
posted 1 day, 9 hours ago
comment by shiekh (U19310)
posted 6 minutes ago
There you go again.. 50 and out ! He will never be considered a Batting great with such poor conversion rate (converted only 12 of his 42 50+).
I wonder if it's become psychological.
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That's a bit ridiculous, the guy is the 3rd youngest player to reach 5000 runs. He'll be well aware of what's going on and will look to rectify it and start converting more of his 50s into 100s. If he manages that, you'll see his already impressive average start heading towards the 60s.
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Really hope so. Think its just psychological atm.
Saw one comment on Cricinfo earlier that goes " Death, taxes & Root failing to convert a fifty into ton"
posted on 7/8/17
It could be psychological but I think the captaincy will help him here in the future. This is his first series as captain and he's had a very good series with the bat. Lets not forget that he scored a brilliant 190 in the first match at Lords which set us up for the win.
He's contributed 101 runs with the bat in this game, would it have been any different if he'd scored a 100 in the first innings and a 1 in the second? Like I said earlier in the thread, he often comes in when we're in trouble and changes the momentum of an innings with his runs and the speed at which he scores them.
posted on 18/8/17
I don't give a rat's a$$ if he never scores another century but continues to push his average up towards 60. and neither will root. that's why he doesn't convert more - he plays aggressive cricket aimed at winning matches not personal milestones.
a better batsman than smith IMO, regardless of who finishes with the most centuries. and all things being equal one of a very few current batsmen who stand a decent chance of outscoring the great Tendulkar by the end of his career
posted on 18/8/17
Cook plays 200 tests like Tendulkar he will over take his record..
posted on 18/8/17
At his current average he will just pass him yes. Needs to play for five more years, but certainly no pressure on his place right now!
posted on 18/8/17
he's playing India next year that's guaranteed 500 runs!
as for his average being less than Tendulkar.. Cook as had to face the new ball all his career.
posted on 18/8/17
With our various poor openers and number 3s so has root 😉
I assume tendulkar's average compared to cook is helped by more not outs due to batting down the order altho i have never checked. Openers will always average a little lower without necessarily scoring fewer runs.
Be great to have two england players as two highest run scorers of all time 😊
posted on 20/8/17
To be fair Tendulkar played in an era where there were far better bowlers around. The likes of Wasim, Waqar, McGrath, Warne, Lee, Murali, Ambrose, Walsh, Pollock, Donald etc. This is another reason why he is one of the greatest batsmen of all time. Not sure why people try and look for excuses regarding his stats!
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