If we cant beat them we dont deserve to be in it.
They had a fantastic season in the Bundesliga last year and also, last season, they became the last team in the top 5 European leagues to get defeated in their league.
Against Bayern in the Bundesliga last season they beat them at home, and drew away.
Add in a young 30 YO very tactically astute manager, Julian Nagelsmann, and a team that are well organised and work hard for each other . . . They only have a low seeding as they have no track record in Europe.
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They have a 30 year old manager?!?!
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their whole squad is actually really young, a few stand out players but think Liverpool will just about see them off
FSG will be tracking this young manager who can get the best out of young players.
Will Couts be CL cup tied if he plays and Liverpool fail to qualify for the CL?
They sold two of their best players in sule and rudy from last season to Bayern so hopefully they'll be a bit weaker because of it.
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 25 minutes ago
FSG will be tracking this young manager who can get the best out of young players.
Will Couts be CL cup tied if he plays and Liverpool fail to qualify for the CL?
-----------
Pretty sure Klopp already knows him should he wish to take a step up and join Klopps coaching team
Coutinho will be cup tied for the champions league until January, however, he won't be for the Europa if Everton come in wi.. with a bi...
No.. just couldn't finish that last sent .. Everton bidding for cou..
BWAHAHAHAA
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 28 minutes ago
FSG will be tracking this young manager who can get the best out of young players.
Will Couts be CL cup tied if he plays and Liverpool fail to qualify for the CL?
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Nope.
Coutinho will only be cup-tied IF he plays in the qualifiers & Liverpool get to the group stages.
So the best way of keeping him is to play him in the qualifiers and win the tie.
Who will want to buy a player who can't play in the CL because he's cup-tied.
Home tie second Yet again
comment by Shaun M - Luke Ayling Gaetano Berardi, Pontus Jansson Alioski (U9955)
posted 28 minutes ago
Home tie second Yet again
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As the seeded team that's always how it works in the qualifiers.
comment by Shaun M - Luke Ayling Gaetano Berardi, Pontus Jansson Alioski (U9955)
posted 38 minutes ago
Home tie second Yet again
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Yet again?
comment by Emre... You don't make friends with Salah... (U3979)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - Luke Ayling Gaetano Berardi, Pontus Jansson Alioski (U9955)
posted 28 minutes ago
Home tie second Yet again
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As the seeded team that's always how it works in the qualifiers.
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On this occasion it actually wasn't, they took one from each pot and mixed them up so it was random as to who was at home first.
comment by Reincarnated Red (U1176)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Emre... You don't make friends with Salah... (U3979)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - Luke Ayling Gaetano Berardi, Pontus Jansson Alioski (U9955)
posted 28 minutes ago
Home tie second Yet again
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As the seeded team that's always how it works in the qualifiers.
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On this occasion it actually wasn't, they took one from each pot and mixed them up so it was random as to who was at home first.
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Ah.
Excellent.
Them and Nice were the teams I hoped we would avoid.
This isn't the same Hoffenheim team as last season. They have lost 5 of their first team players to transfers away. Plus maybe a 6th in their RB to Spurs Jeremy Toljan. Still have to be mindful as their manager sets them up to play counter attacking football and will have them well drilled. 5 days ago they just beat Derby 2-1. In a pre season friendly.
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 2 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 25 minutes ago
FSG will be tracking this young manager who can get the best out of young players.
Will Couts be CL cup tied if he plays and Liverpool fail to qualify for the CL?
-----------
Pretty sure Klopp already knows him should he wish to take a step up and join Klopps coaching team
Coutinho will be cup tied for the champions league until January, however, he won't be for the Europa if Everton come in wi..with a bi...
No.. just couldn't finish that last sent .. Everton bidding for cou..
BWAHAHAHAA
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Who mentioned Everton? Everyone knows he wants to move to Barca
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 25 minutes ago
FSG will be tracking this young manager who can get the best out of young players.
Will Couts be CL cup tied if he plays and Liverpool fail to qualify for the CL?
-----------
Pretty sure Klopp already knows him should he wish to take a step up and join Klopps coaching team
Coutinho will be cup tied for the champions league until January, however, he won't be for the Europa if Everton come in wi..with a bi...
No.. just couldn't finish that last sent .. Everton bidding for cou..
BWAHAHAHAA
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I forgot some teams still had to qualify for the champions league. Weird.
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - ﻓﻠﺴﻄﻴﻦ (U1860)
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 25 minutes ago
FSG will be tracking this young manager who can get the best out of young players.
Will Couts be CL cup tied if he plays and Liverpool fail to qualify for the CL?
-----------
Pretty sure Klopp already knows him should he wish to take a step up and join Klopps coaching team
Coutinho will be cup tied for the champions league until January, however, he won't be for the Europa if Everton come in wi.. with a bi...
No.. just couldn't finish that last sent .. Everton bidding for cou..
BWAHAHAHAA
=========
Burn
comment by The Greatest Entrepreneur of Our Time (U13709)
posted 48 minutes ago
I forgot some teams still had to qualify for the champions league. Weird.
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only morons.
On a good day they could be dangerous for Liverpool. When all things come together especially at their home. Beside that I think "normally" you should be alright. Nagelsmann is a promising manager but Liverpool surely top favourite.
comment by No Love - Nikita do you count the stars at night (U1282)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - ﻓﻠﺴﻄﻴﻦ (U1860)
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 25 minutes ago
FSG will be tracking this young manager who can get the best out of young players.
Will Couts be CL cup tied if he plays and Liverpool fail to qualify for the CL?
-----------
Pretty sure Klopp already knows him should he wish to take a step up and join Klopps coaching team
Coutinho will be cup tied for the champions league until January, however, he won't be for the Europa if Everton come in wi..with a bi...
No.. just couldn't finish that last sent .. Everton bidding for cou..
BWAHAHAHAA
=========
Burn
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That was dreadful to be fair.
I'm more worried about this now than if it had been one of the lesser teams. I would have preferred to have been able to play 2nd choice / squad players for these fixtures.
Starting the season now we have.
Watford away,
Hoffenheim away,
Palace home,
Hoffenheim home,
Arsenal home
City away
That's some serious squad juggling with the possibility of 4 teams who will sit back and hope to catch us on the break one after the other.
Followed by 2 top 6 rivals.
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posted on 4/8/17
If we cant beat them we dont deserve to be in it.
posted on 4/8/17
They had a fantastic season in the Bundesliga last year and also, last season, they became the last team in the top 5 European leagues to get defeated in their league.
Against Bayern in the Bundesliga last season they beat them at home, and drew away.
Add in a young 30 YO very tactically astute manager, Julian Nagelsmann, and a team that are well organised and work hard for each other . . . They only have a low seeding as they have no track record in Europe.
posted on 4/8/17
Anfield under lights
posted on 4/8/17
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 4/8/17
They have a 30 year old manager?!?!
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their whole squad is actually really young, a few stand out players but think Liverpool will just about see them off
posted on 4/8/17
FSG will be tracking this young manager who can get the best out of young players.
Will Couts be CL cup tied if he plays and Liverpool fail to qualify for the CL?
posted on 4/8/17
They sold two of their best players in sule and rudy from last season to Bayern so hopefully they'll be a bit weaker because of it.
posted on 4/8/17
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 25 minutes ago
FSG will be tracking this young manager who can get the best out of young players.
Will Couts be CL cup tied if he plays and Liverpool fail to qualify for the CL?
-----------
Pretty sure Klopp already knows him should he wish to take a step up and join Klopps coaching team
Coutinho will be cup tied for the champions league until January, however, he won't be for the Europa if Everton come in wi.. with a bi...
No.. just couldn't finish that last sent .. Everton bidding for cou..
BWAHAHAHAA
posted on 4/8/17
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 28 minutes ago
FSG will be tracking this young manager who can get the best out of young players.
Will Couts be CL cup tied if he plays and Liverpool fail to qualify for the CL?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nope.
Coutinho will only be cup-tied IF he plays in the qualifiers & Liverpool get to the group stages.
So the best way of keeping him is to play him in the qualifiers and win the tie.
Who will want to buy a player who can't play in the CL because he's cup-tied.
posted on 4/8/17
Home tie second Yet again
posted on 4/8/17
comment by Shaun M - Luke Ayling Gaetano Berardi, Pontus Jansson Alioski (U9955)
posted 28 minutes ago
Home tie second Yet again
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As the seeded team that's always how it works in the qualifiers.
posted on 4/8/17
comment by Shaun M - Luke Ayling Gaetano Berardi, Pontus Jansson Alioski (U9955)
posted 38 minutes ago
Home tie second Yet again
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Yet again?
posted on 4/8/17
comment by Emre... You don't make friends with Salah... (U3979)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - Luke Ayling Gaetano Berardi, Pontus Jansson Alioski (U9955)
posted 28 minutes ago
Home tie second Yet again
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As the seeded team that's always how it works in the qualifiers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
On this occasion it actually wasn't, they took one from each pot and mixed them up so it was random as to who was at home first.
posted on 4/8/17
comment by Reincarnated Red (U1176)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Emre... You don't make friends with Salah... (U3979)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - Luke Ayling Gaetano Berardi, Pontus Jansson Alioski (U9955)
posted 28 minutes ago
Home tie second Yet again
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As the seeded team that's always how it works in the qualifiers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
On this occasion it actually wasn't, they took one from each pot and mixed them up so it was random as to who was at home first.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ah.
Excellent.
posted on 4/8/17
Them and Nice were the teams I hoped we would avoid.
posted on 4/8/17
This isn't the same Hoffenheim team as last season. They have lost 5 of their first team players to transfers away. Plus maybe a 6th in their RB to Spurs Jeremy Toljan. Still have to be mindful as their manager sets them up to play counter attacking football and will have them well drilled. 5 days ago they just beat Derby 2-1. In a pre season friendly.
posted on 4/8/17
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 2 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 25 minutes ago
FSG will be tracking this young manager who can get the best out of young players.
Will Couts be CL cup tied if he plays and Liverpool fail to qualify for the CL?
-----------
Pretty sure Klopp already knows him should he wish to take a step up and join Klopps coaching team
Coutinho will be cup tied for the champions league until January, however, he won't be for the Europa if Everton come in wi..with a bi...
No.. just couldn't finish that last sent .. Everton bidding for cou..
BWAHAHAHAA
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who mentioned Everton? Everyone knows he wants to move to Barca
posted on 4/8/17
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 25 minutes ago
FSG will be tracking this young manager who can get the best out of young players.
Will Couts be CL cup tied if he plays and Liverpool fail to qualify for the CL?
-----------
Pretty sure Klopp already knows him should he wish to take a step up and join Klopps coaching team
Coutinho will be cup tied for the champions league until January, however, he won't be for the Europa if Everton come in wi..with a bi...
No.. just couldn't finish that last sent .. Everton bidding for cou..
BWAHAHAHAA
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 4/8/17
I forgot some teams still had to qualify for the champions league. Weird.
posted on 4/8/17
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - ﻓﻠﺴﻄﻴﻦ (U1860)
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 25 minutes ago
FSG will be tracking this young manager who can get the best out of young players.
Will Couts be CL cup tied if he plays and Liverpool fail to qualify for the CL?
-----------
Pretty sure Klopp already knows him should he wish to take a step up and join Klopps coaching team
Coutinho will be cup tied for the champions league until January, however, he won't be for the Europa if Everton come in wi.. with a bi...
No.. just couldn't finish that last sent .. Everton bidding for cou..
BWAHAHAHAA
=========
Burn
posted on 4/8/17
comment by The Greatest Entrepreneur of Our Time (U13709)
posted 48 minutes ago
I forgot some teams still had to qualify for the champions league. Weird.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
only morons.
posted on 4/8/17
would forget that is.
posted on 4/8/17
On a good day they could be dangerous for Liverpool. When all things come together especially at their home. Beside that I think "normally" you should be alright. Nagelsmann is a promising manager but Liverpool surely top favourite.
posted on 4/8/17
comment by No Love - Nikita do you count the stars at night (U1282)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - ﻓﻠﺴﻄﻴﻦ (U1860)
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 25 minutes ago
FSG will be tracking this young manager who can get the best out of young players.
Will Couts be CL cup tied if he plays and Liverpool fail to qualify for the CL?
-----------
Pretty sure Klopp already knows him should he wish to take a step up and join Klopps coaching team
Coutinho will be cup tied for the champions league until January, however, he won't be for the Europa if Everton come in wi..with a bi...
No.. just couldn't finish that last sent .. Everton bidding for cou..
BWAHAHAHAA
=========
Burn
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That was dreadful to be fair.
posted on 4/8/17
I'm more worried about this now than if it had been one of the lesser teams. I would have preferred to have been able to play 2nd choice / squad players for these fixtures.
Starting the season now we have.
Watford away,
Hoffenheim away,
Palace home,
Hoffenheim home,
Arsenal home
City away
That's some serious squad juggling with the possibility of 4 teams who will sit back and hope to catch us on the break one after the other.
Followed by 2 top 6 rivals.
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