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He isn't that quick, so you clearly haven't watched him if you are calling him "speed merchant"
Edin he's rapid what the feck are you talking about?
Yeah i have never been a huge fan really. Chelsea could do better and Arsenal should be laughing all the way to the bank really if that fee is right.
It's been said that we're his preferred destination but I can't see him getting in the team.
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-------Can----------------Wij
--Salah-----Firmino-------Mane
Not a chance.
Juan give it a break geez. Solid player. Nothing more. Nothing less.
If you think that we have got a player 5 years younger than matic, english and can cover several positions, for 5 mill cheaper than matic it's not too bad.
If you take into account he's got 11 months left on his contract, wanted to leave arsenal anyway, it's not great.
We will have to see how he gets on tbh.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 44 seconds ago
Juan give it a break geez. Solid player. Nothing more. Nothing less.
If you think that we have got a player 5 years younger than matic, english and can cover several positions, for 5 mill cheaper than matic it's not too bad.
If you take into account he's got 11 months left on his contract, wanted to leave arsenal anyway, it's not great.
We will have to see how he gets on tbh.
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A) Give it a break? Huh? I've said two things about him lol.
B) Strange comparison with Matic. Completely different players, Matic is good.
C) Is he even a Chelsea player yet?
Well matic has been poor for a while for chelsea now, has come to utd and looks a new lease of life. Hopefully Ox can do the same. Not a strange comparison when talking about price etc. Just saying 5 years younger, 5 mill cheaper. But until he plays we cannot see if it will be a waste of time or not.
He's quite versatile and is better technically than he gets credit for.
He's lazy defensively though and despite his seeming desire to play centre mid I have not really seen any evidence that he's capable of doing it regularly.
He also gets injured a fair bit.
I am surprised Klopp wants him but I'm obviously missing something.
I agree but Matic has at least show quality in the past. Probably the best player in the league the season you won it with Mou.
Ox has never shown anything near the kind of form Matic did that season.
Hence why it is a strange comparison when talking about price. Bebe is younger than Matic. Fancy spunking 35 million on him?
haha slight exagerration. Just saying matic and ox went this window, both proven PL players/CL players. Ox played for a circus team with a ridiculous manager too, that has to be a factor.
Look at what SAF done to players like sung, fletcher etc.
He isn't that rapid, he is like prime JD quick, not like Mane/Walcott/Bale quick.
Rashford is definitely quicker for example.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
haha slight exagerration. Just saying matic and ox went this window, both proven PL players/CL players. Ox played for a circus team with a ridiculous manager too, that has to be a factor.
Look at what SAF done to players like sung, fletcher etc.
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Fair enough Conte might get more out of him than Wengiesaur.
Edin that's cause Rashford is very rapid.
Jack of all trades, decent at everything great at nothing. Not a bad player to have in a squad like Chelsea with their formation tbh.
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comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 3 minutes ago
Jack of all trades, decent at everything great at nothing. Not a bad player to have in a squad like Chelsea with their formation tbh.
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He would do well under conte because his system doesn't require a lot of decision making like Wengers does, which is one of the worst parts of his game.
He's playing under Wenger, bound to be at least 25% better under somebody with all their marbles still intact
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 0 seconds ago
Powerful dribbler, decent shot, good stamina. Has stagnated at Arsenal, but has the potential to be a very good wingback for us.
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I think this is a fair assessment. I can see him doing well at Chelsea in a wider role.
I like him. Insane balance and can go either way great feet. He's also a more than decent striker of the ball.
I said a while ago I can absolutely see Klopp moulding him into Lallana's role centrally.
Rarely has he impressed me.
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Well he wouldn't care if you are impressed or not, afterall you are just one of the clueless armchair fan.
The most important thing is that he has impressed the likes of Conte and Klopp that are willing to shell £35m for him
Haha then we should never have an opinion on any players Conte as they won't care.
Cretin.
Who OX ? He is a bit rounded like a potato tbf ? Do you think Conte will get him back in shape, or we asking too much ?
I'd have happily had him at UTD... Think a fresh start will see him improve
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posted on 29/8/17
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posted on 29/8/17
He isn't that quick, so you clearly haven't watched him if you are calling him "speed merchant"
posted on 29/8/17
Edin he's rapid what the feck are you talking about?
posted on 29/8/17
Yeah i have never been a huge fan really. Chelsea could do better and Arsenal should be laughing all the way to the bank really if that fee is right.
posted on 29/8/17
It's been said that we're his preferred destination but I can't see him getting in the team.
-------------Henderson
-------Can----------------Wij
--Salah-----Firmino-------Mane
Not a chance.
posted on 29/8/17
Juan give it a break geez. Solid player. Nothing more. Nothing less.
If you think that we have got a player 5 years younger than matic, english and can cover several positions, for 5 mill cheaper than matic it's not too bad.
If you take into account he's got 11 months left on his contract, wanted to leave arsenal anyway, it's not great.
We will have to see how he gets on tbh.
posted on 29/8/17
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 44 seconds ago
Juan give it a break geez. Solid player. Nothing more. Nothing less.
If you think that we have got a player 5 years younger than matic, english and can cover several positions, for 5 mill cheaper than matic it's not too bad.
If you take into account he's got 11 months left on his contract, wanted to leave arsenal anyway, it's not great.
We will have to see how he gets on tbh.
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A) Give it a break? Huh? I've said two things about him lol.
B) Strange comparison with Matic. Completely different players, Matic is good.
posted on 29/8/17
C) Is he even a Chelsea player yet?
posted on 29/8/17
Well matic has been poor for a while for chelsea now, has come to utd and looks a new lease of life. Hopefully Ox can do the same. Not a strange comparison when talking about price etc. Just saying 5 years younger, 5 mill cheaper. But until he plays we cannot see if it will be a waste of time or not.
posted on 29/8/17
He's quite versatile and is better technically than he gets credit for.
He's lazy defensively though and despite his seeming desire to play centre mid I have not really seen any evidence that he's capable of doing it regularly.
He also gets injured a fair bit.
I am surprised Klopp wants him but I'm obviously missing something.
posted on 29/8/17
I agree but Matic has at least show quality in the past. Probably the best player in the league the season you won it with Mou.
Ox has never shown anything near the kind of form Matic did that season.
Hence why it is a strange comparison when talking about price. Bebe is younger than Matic. Fancy spunking 35 million on him?
posted on 29/8/17
haha slight exagerration. Just saying matic and ox went this window, both proven PL players/CL players. Ox played for a circus team with a ridiculous manager too, that has to be a factor.
Look at what SAF done to players like sung, fletcher etc.
posted on 29/8/17
He isn't that rapid, he is like prime JD quick, not like Mane/Walcott/Bale quick.
Rashford is definitely quicker for example.
posted on 29/8/17
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
haha slight exagerration. Just saying matic and ox went this window, both proven PL players/CL players. Ox played for a circus team with a ridiculous manager too, that has to be a factor.
Look at what SAF done to players like sung, fletcher etc.
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Fair enough Conte might get more out of him than Wengiesaur.
Edin that's cause Rashford is very rapid.
posted on 29/8/17
Jack of all trades, decent at everything great at nothing. Not a bad player to have in a squad like Chelsea with their formation tbh.
posted on 29/8/17
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posted on 29/8/17
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 3 minutes ago
Jack of all trades, decent at everything great at nothing. Not a bad player to have in a squad like Chelsea with their formation tbh.
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He would do well under conte because his system doesn't require a lot of decision making like Wengers does, which is one of the worst parts of his game.
posted on 29/8/17
He's playing under Wenger, bound to be at least 25% better under somebody with all their marbles still intact
posted on 29/8/17
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 0 seconds ago
Powerful dribbler, decent shot, good stamina. Has stagnated at Arsenal, but has the potential to be a very good wingback for us.
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I think this is a fair assessment. I can see him doing well at Chelsea in a wider role.
posted on 29/8/17
I like him. Insane balance and can go either way great feet. He's also a more than decent striker of the ball.
I said a while ago I can absolutely see Klopp moulding him into Lallana's role centrally.
posted on 29/8/17
Rarely has he impressed me.
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Well he wouldn't care if you are impressed or not, afterall you are just one of the clueless armchair fan.
The most important thing is that he has impressed the likes of Conte and Klopp that are willing to shell £35m for him
posted on 29/8/17
Haha then we should never have an opinion on any players Conte as they won't care.
Cretin.
posted on 29/8/17
He's a fat little sht
posted on 29/8/17
Who OX ? He is a bit rounded like a potato tbf ? Do you think Conte will get him back in shape, or we asking too much ?
posted on 29/8/17
I'd have happily had him at UTD... Think a fresh start will see him improve
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