A united protest by the fans might do some good, and more aimed at the board. I don't think kronke would be too pleased when millions tune in and see all the fans protesting against him. Surely a little embarrassing for him in front of all his rich friends
I actually agree. Ridiculous that people are going to matches to "support" trash.
They should revolt. Hit em in the pockets. That is all they care about.
So what? Even if 40k boycott all home games they'll easily find another 40k to replace them, corporates and tourists don't care what state the club is in.
The problem is the Emirates crowd is too passive. Too many tourists, day-trippers, families, corporate fans with no interest in football etc. to actually kick up a fuss. In fact the majority of them probably still think Wenger is the right man for the club. This is partly down to the pricing structure which ensures you have a gentle middle-class crowd who are there to have a pleasant time and not get too worked up.
You look at the away following and the vibe is completely different. These are fans who actually follow the club game-to-game and have a decent perspective from which to judge from. But they're massively outnumbered.
Don't be fooled into thinking that the sentiment among the hardcore, or even here on ja606, is reflective of the Arsenal fanbase as a whole. Vast swathes of them would be happy to keep supporting the current management indefinitely.
People should give up their season tickets? How will they watch the team under new management then? You do realise how long the season ticket waiting list is?
If people stop going, New people will be found. Easily.
If they see a drop in Match day revenue it will hurt them, and seeing all those empty seats. But don't think it'll work, as has been said, they'll probably just market seats more toward tourists and corporate. Many of the true fans don't go to home games anyway, either can't afford it or fed up.
I think large scale protests could work. Because I think the club still think it's just a few crazy fans from Arsenal fan tv who really want Wenger gone and some change. They still probably think majority are on side. Regular properly organised protest outside and in could see some change. Don't think the board would like the world to see all their fans hate them. It's got to be more at the board and owner though rather than purely Wenger. Because that's been some of the problem, the board let Wenger take everything while they say and do nothing
comment by Wengersaurus (U8691)
posted 58 seconds ago
So what? Even if 40k boycott all home games they'll easily find another 40k to replace them, corporates and tourists don't care what state the club is in.
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True. But imagine that 40k protesting on match day, similar to what the geordies did the season before they got relegated, it worked.... Mike Ashley spent money to bring in a quality Manager and he also put the club up for sale. Also, as someone else mentioned, it would get worldwide media attention, which would extend the humiliation towards the Arsenal board.
comment by renoog (U4449)
posted 10 minutes ago
The problem is the Emirates crowd is too passive. Too many tourists, day-trippers, families, corporate fans with no interest in football etc. to actually kick up a fuss. In fact the majority of them probably still think Wenger is the right man for the club. This is partly down to the pricing structure which ensures you have a gentle middle-class crowd who are there to have a pleasant time and not get too worked up.
You look at the away following and the vibe is completely different. These are fans who actually follow the club game-to-game and have a decent perspective from which to judge from. But they're massively outnumbered.
Don't be fooled into thinking that the sentiment among the hardcore, or even here on ja606, is reflective of the Arsenal fanbase as a whole. Vast swathes of them would be happy to keep supporting the current management indefinitely.
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That's not true. A members' poll by AST late last season showed 78% wanted Wenger to go. I visit many Arsenal fan forums and every single one overwhelmingly wants him to go.
That's not true. A members' poll by AST late last season showed 78% wanted Wenger to go. I visit many Arsenal fan forums and every single one overwhelmingly wants him to go.
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You're just feeding into my point. AST (with its sub-1000 membership) and online forums full of literate, football-savvy people are NOT representative of Arsenal's home crowd, let alone their global following of star-struck Asians and Africans who chase miles after the team bus on pre-season tours.
As long as that majority are happy to keep attending games, politely clapping the team and not kicking up a fuss, then Arsenal management will continue to think of the Wenger Out crowd as a lunatic, ArsenalFanTV-esque fringe, and carry on as normal.
I've been boycotting games for 12 years. Don't think they even noticed.
No one should boycott any of the games as it's the team we support Arsenal football club but we should boycott buying shirts, food, programs and any other merchandise which is part of Arsenal plc and then and only then will the sponsors be making phone calls to Arsenal asking to cancel contracts or compensation due to the lack of revenue coming in.
No one should boycott any of the games as it's the team we support Arsenal football club but we should boycott buying shirts, food, programs and any other merchandise which is part of Arsenal plc and then and only then will the sponsors be making phone calls to Arsenal asking to cancel contracts or compensation due to the lack of revenue coming in.
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The whole idea of 'you must attend games no matter what' is exactly why nothing will change (and exactly why ticket prices came to be so expensive in the first place). The sight of thousands of empty seats on TV is far more powerful than people not eating burgers at half-time.
renoog if you want to see loads of red seats just watch Tottenham play at Wembley but joking apart I suppose the only way is a mass walkout on 70 minutes which would probably have more effect on TV when seeing a full stadium one minute and a half empty stadium the next
Arsenal's away Premier League record (vs last season's top 6) - since 2013:
P. 21
W. 2
D. 6
L. 13
GS. 24
GC. 52 (6-3 City/5-1 Pool/6-0 Chelsea/ 4-0 Pool)
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No other sets of fans in the top 4 club in Europe (i include lesser leagues like Scotland/Portugal/Holland) would accept that sort of abysmal record against their main rivals, except Arsenal fans.
My idea last year was just get everyone to print an A$ sheet of paper with "Wenger out" in big letters on it, maybe in red to fit the Arsenal colours. Now i would say "Wenger and Kronke out". If everyone who goes to the game printed one off and all held it up say before kick off it would make a spectacular sight that would reverberate through the club.
People have said season ticket holders should cancel their season tickets, but that is ridiculous. I was talking to a fried the other day who is on the waiting list and is now 4 years away from getting one at that level, the total waiting list is estimated as being 12 years. So maybe a more reasonable protest would be to say one of the more insignificant games that they try to arrange for seaosn ticket holder to miss that one match. With that level or absence and empty seasts it would again send a strong picture.
Do you realise that the board have always always had nothing but contempt for the working class fans? For well over 100 years the bank of England club with their unusual symbology have always hated the working clsss fans, Arsenal are an expirement, always have been, I just wish people on here understood this more and took time to look into it, they would find surprising things. The club needs to be owned by the fans somehow, cause the board are taking the P for a laugh, they don't care about the fans, the board hates them. They're extremely privileged people at the top and they don't care about you. I love Arsenal too much to not say anything on this article, I wish the club could just give Kronk £100m for 20 years and own itself, it would be the best thing the club has ever done, better than the 1930s, better than Anfield 89, better than the invincibility.
I don't think this $hit has ever feed down to the manager and players quite like this before, they don't need hope like the fans do
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posted on 29/8/17
A united protest by the fans might do some good, and more aimed at the board. I don't think kronke would be too pleased when millions tune in and see all the fans protesting against him. Surely a little embarrassing for him in front of all his rich friends
posted on 29/8/17
I actually agree. Ridiculous that people are going to matches to "support" trash.
They should revolt. Hit em in the pockets. That is all they care about.
posted on 29/8/17
So what? Even if 40k boycott all home games they'll easily find another 40k to replace them, corporates and tourists don't care what state the club is in.
posted on 29/8/17
The problem is the Emirates crowd is too passive. Too many tourists, day-trippers, families, corporate fans with no interest in football etc. to actually kick up a fuss. In fact the majority of them probably still think Wenger is the right man for the club. This is partly down to the pricing structure which ensures you have a gentle middle-class crowd who are there to have a pleasant time and not get too worked up.
You look at the away following and the vibe is completely different. These are fans who actually follow the club game-to-game and have a decent perspective from which to judge from. But they're massively outnumbered.
Don't be fooled into thinking that the sentiment among the hardcore, or even here on ja606, is reflective of the Arsenal fanbase as a whole. Vast swathes of them would be happy to keep supporting the current management indefinitely.
posted on 29/8/17
renoog
Sad. But true.
posted on 29/8/17
People should give up their season tickets? How will they watch the team under new management then? You do realise how long the season ticket waiting list is?
If people stop going, New people will be found. Easily.
posted on 29/8/17
If they see a drop in Match day revenue it will hurt them, and seeing all those empty seats. But don't think it'll work, as has been said, they'll probably just market seats more toward tourists and corporate. Many of the true fans don't go to home games anyway, either can't afford it or fed up.
I think large scale protests could work. Because I think the club still think it's just a few crazy fans from Arsenal fan tv who really want Wenger gone and some change. They still probably think majority are on side. Regular properly organised protest outside and in could see some change. Don't think the board would like the world to see all their fans hate them. It's got to be more at the board and owner though rather than purely Wenger. Because that's been some of the problem, the board let Wenger take everything while they say and do nothing
posted on 29/8/17
comment by Wengersaurus (U8691)
posted 58 seconds ago
So what? Even if 40k boycott all home games they'll easily find another 40k to replace them, corporates and tourists don't care what state the club is in.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
True. But imagine that 40k protesting on match day, similar to what the geordies did the season before they got relegated, it worked.... Mike Ashley spent money to bring in a quality Manager and he also put the club up for sale. Also, as someone else mentioned, it would get worldwide media attention, which would extend the humiliation towards the Arsenal board.
posted on 29/8/17
comment by renoog (U4449)
posted 10 minutes ago
The problem is the Emirates crowd is too passive. Too many tourists, day-trippers, families, corporate fans with no interest in football etc. to actually kick up a fuss. In fact the majority of them probably still think Wenger is the right man for the club. This is partly down to the pricing structure which ensures you have a gentle middle-class crowd who are there to have a pleasant time and not get too worked up.
You look at the away following and the vibe is completely different. These are fans who actually follow the club game-to-game and have a decent perspective from which to judge from. But they're massively outnumbered.
Don't be fooled into thinking that the sentiment among the hardcore, or even here on ja606, is reflective of the Arsenal fanbase as a whole. Vast swathes of them would be happy to keep supporting the current management indefinitely.
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That's not true. A members' poll by AST late last season showed 78% wanted Wenger to go. I visit many Arsenal fan forums and every single one overwhelmingly wants him to go.
posted on 29/8/17
That's not true. A members' poll by AST late last season showed 78% wanted Wenger to go. I visit many Arsenal fan forums and every single one overwhelmingly wants him to go.
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You're just feeding into my point. AST (with its sub-1000 membership) and online forums full of literate, football-savvy people are NOT representative of Arsenal's home crowd, let alone their global following of star-struck Asians and Africans who chase miles after the team bus on pre-season tours.
As long as that majority are happy to keep attending games, politely clapping the team and not kicking up a fuss, then Arsenal management will continue to think of the Wenger Out crowd as a lunatic, ArsenalFanTV-esque fringe, and carry on as normal.
posted on 29/8/17
I've been boycotting games for 12 years. Don't think they even noticed.
posted on 29/8/17
No one should boycott any of the games as it's the team we support Arsenal football club but we should boycott buying shirts, food, programs and any other merchandise which is part of Arsenal plc and then and only then will the sponsors be making phone calls to Arsenal asking to cancel contracts or compensation due to the lack of revenue coming in.
posted on 29/8/17
No one should boycott any of the games as it's the team we support Arsenal football club but we should boycott buying shirts, food, programs and any other merchandise which is part of Arsenal plc and then and only then will the sponsors be making phone calls to Arsenal asking to cancel contracts or compensation due to the lack of revenue coming in.
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The whole idea of 'you must attend games no matter what' is exactly why nothing will change (and exactly why ticket prices came to be so expensive in the first place). The sight of thousands of empty seats on TV is far more powerful than people not eating burgers at half-time.
posted on 29/8/17
renoog if you want to see loads of red seats just watch Tottenham play at Wembley but joking apart I suppose the only way is a mass walkout on 70 minutes which would probably have more effect on TV when seeing a full stadium one minute and a half empty stadium the next
posted on 29/8/17
Arsenal's away Premier League record (vs last season's top 6) - since 2013:
P. 21
W. 2
D. 6
L. 13
GS. 24
GC. 52 (6-3 City/5-1 Pool/6-0 Chelsea/ 4-0 Pool)
--------------------------
No other sets of fans in the top 4 club in Europe (i include lesser leagues like Scotland/Portugal/Holland) would accept that sort of abysmal record against their main rivals, except Arsenal fans.
posted on 29/8/17
My idea last year was just get everyone to print an A$ sheet of paper with "Wenger out" in big letters on it, maybe in red to fit the Arsenal colours. Now i would say "Wenger and Kronke out". If everyone who goes to the game printed one off and all held it up say before kick off it would make a spectacular sight that would reverberate through the club.
People have said season ticket holders should cancel their season tickets, but that is ridiculous. I was talking to a fried the other day who is on the waiting list and is now 4 years away from getting one at that level, the total waiting list is estimated as being 12 years. So maybe a more reasonable protest would be to say one of the more insignificant games that they try to arrange for seaosn ticket holder to miss that one match. With that level or absence and empty seasts it would again send a strong picture.
posted on 29/8/17
^A4 sheet of paper
posted on 29/8/17
Do you realise that the board have always always had nothing but contempt for the working class fans? For well over 100 years the bank of England club with their unusual symbology have always hated the working clsss fans, Arsenal are an expirement, always have been, I just wish people on here understood this more and took time to look into it, they would find surprising things. The club needs to be owned by the fans somehow, cause the board are taking the P for a laugh, they don't care about the fans, the board hates them. They're extremely privileged people at the top and they don't care about you. I love Arsenal too much to not say anything on this article, I wish the club could just give Kronk £100m for 20 years and own itself, it would be the best thing the club has ever done, better than the 1930s, better than Anfield 89, better than the invincibility.
posted on 29/8/17
I don't think this $hit has ever feed down to the manager and players quite like this before, they don't need hope like the fans do
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