The only flaw with the idea is where is the gain in stripping the team down? A PL side of our status outside the CL effectively just becomes s money pit to it's owner. If Stan's underlying motivation is greed and getting the most cash out of the club he can. There's little to no sense in allowing the side to fall out of the CL and tank down the table. He stands to lose a bundle if this doesn't get sorted out. Not necessarily in terms of money out of his fortune now but in terms of future profit.
There's a big old cash difference to him between 4 spot Sky money + CL cash vs 9th spot Sky money with no CL top up. His American sports franchises aren't the best model to go by as I'm pretty sure American teams finance differently. There is no gain to be had in allowing a PL top 4 team to plummet to mid table obscurity. There's no long term profit in it and long term profit is what the greedy yank is all about.
That story doing the rounds about half the first team wanting Sanchez gone is such an obvious leak by management to soften supporters up to him being sold.
Alexis can go for £70M just as long as Wenger is NOT given the money to replace him.
The season is over, don't let him waste any more money. Keep it in the bank for the next manager
Was there anyone in fanbase who thought we wouldn't sell a player in the last season of his contract adamant he won't sign an extension.
I don't think Arsenal fc needed any PR games.
comment by Pep The Final Straw!! (Formerly WB2) (U8276)
posted 2 minutes ago
The only flaw with the idea is where is the gain in stripping the team down? A PL side of our status outside the CL effectively just becomes s money pit to it's owner. If Stan's underlying motivation is greed and getting the most cash out of the club he can. There's little to no sense in allowing the side to fall out of the CL and tank down the table. He stands to lose a bundle if this doesn't get sorted out. Not necessarily in terms of money out of his fortune now but in terms of future profit.
There's a big old cash difference to him between 4 spot Sky money + CL cash vs 9th spot Sky money with no CL top up. His American sports franchises aren't the best model to go by as I'm pretty sure American teams finance differently. There is no gain to be had in allowing a PL top 4 team to plummet to mid table obscurity. There's no long term profit in it and long term profit is what the greedy yank is all about.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's what Wengers for to stop us dropping to mid table obscurity. As bad as the result was this weekend we will be top 4/ very close to it by the end of the season.
Why risk another manager who could actually put us in midtable.
Wow I sound like a conspiracy theorist.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 6 seconds ago
Was there anyone in fanbase who thought we wouldn't sell a player in the last season of his contract adamant he won't sign an extension.
I don't think Arsenal fc needed any PR games.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The fan backlash would be alot worse than it is right now.
comment by Lacazade and Coca Kola (U10303)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 6 seconds ago
Was there anyone in fanbase who thought we wouldn't sell a player in the last season of his contract adamant he won't sign an extension.
I don't think Arsenal fc needed any PR games.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The fan backlash would be alot worse than it is right now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Worse than fights in the stands a few years ago? I think we have gone down this route. As much as some were placated by the FA Cup, the simmering hostility is still there. All it needs is a few poor results in a row to show its ugly head. That gets to the players and the whole situation gets worse.
The International break has come at the right time for Wengy. But poor transfer business will not help the matters on return.
Fan hostility to each other isnt the problem, as we are more United than ever than Wenger should leave. Fan hostility towards the club is undoubtedly growing however.
comment by Lacazade and Coca Kola (U10303)
posted 1 minute ago
Fan hostility to each other isnt the problem, as we are more United than ever than Wenger should leave. Fan hostility towards the club is undoubtedly growing however.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nah. no one has given up their season tickets. Believe it or not there is still a strong minority who love Wenger. A few positive results will change the atmosphere very quickly. The expectations have been lowered that much. No one talks of titles anymore.
comment by renoog (U4449)
posted 19 minutes ago
That story doing the rounds about half the first team wanting Sanchez gone is such an obvious leak by management to soften supporters up to him being sold.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what? We SHOULD have sold him months ago anyway. If we'd done so we'd have a far more settled team now. I said in Mar/Apr what the story is saying, assuming I was right, we've allowed the bad vibe he stirred up, costing us CL football last season, to continue and drag into the start of this season. BIG MISTAKE and we are paying for it now.
This is what happens when you pin your team hope on a of a player. You lot all bang on about Wenger never learning anything yet here you are now moaning that quite possibly the biggest player of the Wenger era has mugged you off because in your failure to learn from previous years, you were actually dumb enough to think he'd stay. You want to all be angry at yourselves for kissing Sanchez's ass all season last year when you SHOULD have been booing him, calling him out on being an total ass toward the team and club you CLAIM to support.
Anyone who truly loves Arsenal football club has no business being annoyed that Sanchez will be sold. When someone is that toxic to the team, how good he is at football fast becomes irrelevant. Why? Because players that toxic, cause THIS!
Its far worse than you think
At the start of the transfer window we were told there was a confirmed £150m available for transfers. We have only spent money on Lacazette, an unconfirmed fee that I have seen reported as between £44m and £52.7m but that is likely to be with add ons. We have sold Szcz and Gibbs for about £17m. If we sell Ox and Sanchez we will be massively in profit with very little indication that we will bring anyone in.
It is beyond disgraceful.
We also sold Gabriel and a few fringe/youth players. we are well in the black on this window....
with Wilshere, Ox, Perez, Debuchy at least still to go, we could see us being crowned the champions of making money this summer.
So what? We SHOULD have sold him months ago anyway. If we'd done so we'd have a far more settled team now. I said in Mar/Apr what the story is saying, assuming I was right, we've allowed the bad vibe he stirred up, costing us CL football last season, to continue and drag into the start of this season. BIG MISTAKE and we are paying for it now.
This is what happens when you pin your team hope on a of a player. You lot all bang on about Wenger never learning anything yet here you are now moaning that quite possibly the biggest player of the Wenger era has mugged you off because in your failure to learn from previous years, you were actually dumb enough to think he'd stay. You want to all be angry at yourselves for kissing Sanchez's ass all season last year when you SHOULD have been booing him, calling him out on being an total ass toward the team and club you CLAIM to support.
Anyone who truly loves Arsenal football club has no business being annoyed that Sanchez will be sold. When someone is that toxic to the team, how good he is at football fast becomes irrelevant. Why? Because players that toxic, cause THIS!
--------------------
Nah what cost us CL football was as usual a crap defence and shocking big game performance - the same story every season for pretty much the last 8 years running. The only difference last season round was that all the other teams around us hired top managers - including Everton - so Wenger no longer had any room for error and predictably fell short when faced with strong competition (even with Sanchez reaching almost Henry-level of impact for us). The same will happen again this season and next season even when Sanchez is gone, because Wenger is by far the biggest barrier to this club progressing, and the lead cause of dressing room strife through his inability to deliver the success that his star players crave. We've seen it happen with all our other world class players in the Emirates era and it's pretty obvious that the root cause is Wenger's management, not players being d!cks.
Question: why is Sanchez a of a player for getting frustrated at the fact the team isn't stepping up? Why aren't the team a bunch of s for NOT stepping up to his level? We know they're capable. Seems we're enabling them by making Sanchez out to be the bad guy...
Page 1 of 1
First
Previous
1
Next
Latest
Sign in if you want to comment
Cynic in Me
Page 1 of 1
posted on 30/8/17
The only flaw with the idea is where is the gain in stripping the team down? A PL side of our status outside the CL effectively just becomes s money pit to it's owner. If Stan's underlying motivation is greed and getting the most cash out of the club he can. There's little to no sense in allowing the side to fall out of the CL and tank down the table. He stands to lose a bundle if this doesn't get sorted out. Not necessarily in terms of money out of his fortune now but in terms of future profit.
There's a big old cash difference to him between 4 spot Sky money + CL cash vs 9th spot Sky money with no CL top up. His American sports franchises aren't the best model to go by as I'm pretty sure American teams finance differently. There is no gain to be had in allowing a PL top 4 team to plummet to mid table obscurity. There's no long term profit in it and long term profit is what the greedy yank is all about.
posted on 30/8/17
That story doing the rounds about half the first team wanting Sanchez gone is such an obvious leak by management to soften supporters up to him being sold.
posted on 30/8/17
Alexis can go for £70M just as long as Wenger is NOT given the money to replace him.
The season is over, don't let him waste any more money. Keep it in the bank for the next manager
posted on 30/8/17
Was there anyone in fanbase who thought we wouldn't sell a player in the last season of his contract adamant he won't sign an extension.
I don't think Arsenal fc needed any PR games.
posted on 30/8/17
comment by Pep The Final Straw!! (Formerly WB2) (U8276)
posted 2 minutes ago
The only flaw with the idea is where is the gain in stripping the team down? A PL side of our status outside the CL effectively just becomes s money pit to it's owner. If Stan's underlying motivation is greed and getting the most cash out of the club he can. There's little to no sense in allowing the side to fall out of the CL and tank down the table. He stands to lose a bundle if this doesn't get sorted out. Not necessarily in terms of money out of his fortune now but in terms of future profit.
There's a big old cash difference to him between 4 spot Sky money + CL cash vs 9th spot Sky money with no CL top up. His American sports franchises aren't the best model to go by as I'm pretty sure American teams finance differently. There is no gain to be had in allowing a PL top 4 team to plummet to mid table obscurity. There's no long term profit in it and long term profit is what the greedy yank is all about.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's what Wengers for to stop us dropping to mid table obscurity. As bad as the result was this weekend we will be top 4/ very close to it by the end of the season.
Why risk another manager who could actually put us in midtable.
Wow I sound like a conspiracy theorist.
posted on 30/8/17
"The season is over"
wtf
posted on 30/8/17
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 6 seconds ago
Was there anyone in fanbase who thought we wouldn't sell a player in the last season of his contract adamant he won't sign an extension.
I don't think Arsenal fc needed any PR games.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The fan backlash would be alot worse than it is right now.
posted on 30/8/17
comment by Lacazade and Coca Kola (U10303)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 6 seconds ago
Was there anyone in fanbase who thought we wouldn't sell a player in the last season of his contract adamant he won't sign an extension.
I don't think Arsenal fc needed any PR games.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The fan backlash would be alot worse than it is right now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Worse than fights in the stands a few years ago? I think we have gone down this route. As much as some were placated by the FA Cup, the simmering hostility is still there. All it needs is a few poor results in a row to show its ugly head. That gets to the players and the whole situation gets worse.
The International break has come at the right time for Wengy. But poor transfer business will not help the matters on return.
posted on 30/8/17
Fan hostility to each other isnt the problem, as we are more United than ever than Wenger should leave. Fan hostility towards the club is undoubtedly growing however.
posted on 30/8/17
comment by Lacazade and Coca Kola (U10303)
posted 1 minute ago
Fan hostility to each other isnt the problem, as we are more United than ever than Wenger should leave. Fan hostility towards the club is undoubtedly growing however.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nah. no one has given up their season tickets. Believe it or not there is still a strong minority who love Wenger. A few positive results will change the atmosphere very quickly. The expectations have been lowered that much. No one talks of titles anymore.
posted on 30/8/17
comment by renoog (U4449)
posted 19 minutes ago
That story doing the rounds about half the first team wanting Sanchez gone is such an obvious leak by management to soften supporters up to him being sold.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what? We SHOULD have sold him months ago anyway. If we'd done so we'd have a far more settled team now. I said in Mar/Apr what the story is saying, assuming I was right, we've allowed the bad vibe he stirred up, costing us CL football last season, to continue and drag into the start of this season. BIG MISTAKE and we are paying for it now.
This is what happens when you pin your team hope on a of a player. You lot all bang on about Wenger never learning anything yet here you are now moaning that quite possibly the biggest player of the Wenger era has mugged you off because in your failure to learn from previous years, you were actually dumb enough to think he'd stay. You want to all be angry at yourselves for kissing Sanchez's ass all season last year when you SHOULD have been booing him, calling him out on being an total ass toward the team and club you CLAIM to support.
Anyone who truly loves Arsenal football club has no business being annoyed that Sanchez will be sold. When someone is that toxic to the team, how good he is at football fast becomes irrelevant. Why? Because players that toxic, cause THIS!
posted on 30/8/17
Its far worse than you think
At the start of the transfer window we were told there was a confirmed £150m available for transfers. We have only spent money on Lacazette, an unconfirmed fee that I have seen reported as between £44m and £52.7m but that is likely to be with add ons. We have sold Szcz and Gibbs for about £17m. If we sell Ox and Sanchez we will be massively in profit with very little indication that we will bring anyone in.
It is beyond disgraceful.
posted on 30/8/17
We also sold Gabriel and a few fringe/youth players. we are well in the black on this window....
with Wilshere, Ox, Perez, Debuchy at least still to go, we could see us being crowned the champions of making money this summer.
posted on 30/8/17
So what? We SHOULD have sold him months ago anyway. If we'd done so we'd have a far more settled team now. I said in Mar/Apr what the story is saying, assuming I was right, we've allowed the bad vibe he stirred up, costing us CL football last season, to continue and drag into the start of this season. BIG MISTAKE and we are paying for it now.
This is what happens when you pin your team hope on a of a player. You lot all bang on about Wenger never learning anything yet here you are now moaning that quite possibly the biggest player of the Wenger era has mugged you off because in your failure to learn from previous years, you were actually dumb enough to think he'd stay. You want to all be angry at yourselves for kissing Sanchez's ass all season last year when you SHOULD have been booing him, calling him out on being an total ass toward the team and club you CLAIM to support.
Anyone who truly loves Arsenal football club has no business being annoyed that Sanchez will be sold. When someone is that toxic to the team, how good he is at football fast becomes irrelevant. Why? Because players that toxic, cause THIS!
--------------------
Nah what cost us CL football was as usual a crap defence and shocking big game performance - the same story every season for pretty much the last 8 years running. The only difference last season round was that all the other teams around us hired top managers - including Everton - so Wenger no longer had any room for error and predictably fell short when faced with strong competition (even with Sanchez reaching almost Henry-level of impact for us). The same will happen again this season and next season even when Sanchez is gone, because Wenger is by far the biggest barrier to this club progressing, and the lead cause of dressing room strife through his inability to deliver the success that his star players crave. We've seen it happen with all our other world class players in the Emirates era and it's pretty obvious that the root cause is Wenger's management, not players being d!cks.
posted on 30/8/17
Question: why is Sanchez a of a player for getting frustrated at the fact the team isn't stepping up? Why aren't the team a bunch of s for NOT stepping up to his level? We know they're capable. Seems we're enabling them by making Sanchez out to be the bad guy...
Page 1 of 1