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Xhaka + Ramsey in midfield =

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posted on 17/9/17

It's an extremely weak team lacking guile

We will eat bossed in Mf

posted on 17/9/17

Absolutely pathetic team

comment by BO$$™ (U6401)

posted on 17/9/17

Least Ozil ain't playing. Guys a complete liability in big away games although I would have played Elneny instead of Iwobi.

comment by Clay (U21628)

posted on 17/9/17

You really do underestimate the class of Alex Iwobi.

posted on 17/9/17

You would of lost regardless of any side you put out.

posted on 17/9/17

comment by Clay (U21628)
posted 15 seconds ago
You really do underestimate the class of Alex Iwobi.
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I love Iwobi, that's not really my issue, the midfield two is. I would have started Elneny and Xhaka.

posted on 17/9/17

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 33 seconds ago
You would of lost regardless of any side you put out.
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Thanks for your insightful contribution.

posted on 17/9/17

There is no creativity in that team whatsoever

posted on 17/9/17

Did you say that before the cup final?

comment by BO$$™ (U6401)

posted on 17/9/17

comment by Clay (U21628)
posted 2 minutes ago
You really do underestimate the class of Alex Iwobi.
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Don't doubt his ability I'm just saying maybe Ramsey and Xhaka need mor help in the middle.

posted on 17/9/17

Iwobi will play deeper I guess to give an extra option in midfield

comment by Clay (U21628)

posted on 17/9/17

Playing Chelsea is nothing about defensive midfielders - it's about Xhaka and Ramsey not wandering out of position at the same time as they did at Anfield.

If everyone does their job this is a team that can do well especially with the cavalry waiting on the bench.

posted on 17/9/17

comment by Clay (U21628)
posted 2 minutes ago
Playing Chelsea is nothing about defensive midfielders - it's about Xhaka and Ramsey not wandering out of position at the same time as they did at Anfield.

If everyone does their job this is a team that can do well especially with the cavalry waiting on the bench.
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The point being that I can probably count on one hand then number of time Ramsey has been sufficiently disciplined in a match. He is obsessed with scoring and it screws us over frequently.

comment by Clay (U21628)

posted on 17/9/17

How unlucky can we be though?

To not have Ozil and Sanchez fit for such a game is horrible.

posted on 17/9/17

I had a feeling Wenger would start with a back 4 today Doesn't look like it with that starting lineup

At least he seems to have realised Ozil goes missing in the big games

posted on 17/9/17

comment by trigg_27 - Don't talk to me about sufferi... (U6906)
posted 21 seconds ago
I had a feeling Wenger would start with a back 4 today Doesn't look like it with that starting lineup

At least he seems to have realised Ozil goes missing in the big games
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Wenger hasnt realised anything. Ozil is injured. Didn't even train yesterday. If he was fit he would have started

comment by Clay (U21628)

posted on 17/9/17

Ozil is not dropped. He has never been dropped and never will be. He has a muscle injury.

posted on 17/9/17

We never have our best team out for The big games

posted on 17/9/17

The team is still good enough to get a result without Alexis and Ozil. Our problem is not a lack of ability. The players just need to play like they can and with confidence and not go into their shells like is common in these big away games and we have a good chance of at least a draw.

posted on 17/9/17

comment by Clay (U21628)
posted 28 minutes ago
How unlucky can we be though?

To not have Ozil and Sanchez fit for such a game is horrible.
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Lining up without those is something we need to get used to. Neither will be here this time next year

posted on 17/9/17

I agree with your comment that Ramsey and Xhaka is weak, but for different reasons. Xhaka is doing a bit more defensively but still does not do enough. Even though we drew he is a defensive liability. Chelsea sat off him when he had possession of the ball today, which made him look better. Xhaka cannot cope with being pressed by the opposition when he has the ball or when they have the ball. They can get past him with ease and several managers have clearly targetted him as a weak point to good effect. even today there were a few times he tried quick passes and got them completely wrong.

Ramsey is being played as an attacking player. If he was meant to be playing deeper he would have been dropped by now, so its fairly clear he isdoing what is being asked of him. To accuse him of negligence is naivety. You see what you want to see and not the reality of the situation.

posted on 17/9/17

comment by Ramböue (U12551)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by Clay (U21628)
posted 28 minutes ago
How unlucky can we be though?

To not have Ozil and Sanchez fit for such a game is horrible.
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Lining up without those is something we need to get used to. Neither will be here this time next year
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Good, one is lazy and tackle shy and the other doesn't want to be here. We're not supposed to want players like that at our club.

It will be interesting now to see the excuses given by Gooners for Chelsea being handled by Xhaka and Ramsey (as above). Anything to not state the obvious about why we were defensively decent today. No Ozil. But ooo no, not allowed to say that are we because Ozil passes so great it doesn't matter that he does sweet feck all else.

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