We cannot get rid of Ozil and Sanchez end of story. Easily are best two players. If I was Wenger I would promise both players that we will be investing big in January on other world class players and spend massive. This is Wengers only hope but will he do it.
comment by Garwood Gunner (U7987)
posted 10 minutes ago
We cannot get rid of Ozil and Sanchez end of story. Easily are best two players. If I was Wenger I would promise both players that we will be investing big in January on other world class players and spend massive. This is Wengers only hope but will he do it.
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No he will not and they will both leave in jan or the summer.
Since when were Everton a big team?
Too fooking predictable! Obviously Arsenal were gonna win today, I'm so annoyed with Arsenal, I might never watch them again, too obvious they would win against this struggling Everton side, where is the excitement gone? Why did I bother watching today when I knew they would win? Livid about this tbh
Bad day for Arsenal fans, but at least Per and Xhaka then Cech and Monreal gave them something to moan about.
We need to focus on the negatives, not the performance of Ozil or the 5 goals or the dominant win. After all, we will no doubt lose again soon so whats the point of being happy today?
I fear that Ozil has upped his game because he is playing for a move to another team, either in Jan or more likely in the summer. Our chances of keeping him are nil, if he plays the rest of the season like he did today.
comment by sammy nelson sbum (U6244)
posted 1 minute ago
I fear that Ozil has upped his game because he is playing for a move to another team, either in Jan or more likely in the summer. Our chances of keeping him are nil, if he plays the rest of the season like he did today.
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Don't understand the logic.
By your comments you think Ozil was purposely playing below his level till now? And has now upped his game?
How is the "not even watching Arsenal on TV UNTIL WENGER FAACKS OFF" going Sammy?
Jenius. " Don't understand the logic. By your comments you think Ozil was purposely playing below his level till now? And has now upped his game?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Seriously...if you don't understand that then maybe you need to change your name, or read a book on motivational techniques. It's obvious to everyone that Ozil has been below par this season. The minute he's linked with a move to Man Utd he pulls out this performance. Coincidence or what? Yes, I have seen his tweet (Don't listen to the noise!) .
DJM....I see you've forgotten to take your tablets again.
comment by sammy nelson sbum (U6244)
posted 56 minutes ago
Jenius. " Don't understand the logic. By your comments you think Ozil was purposely playing below his level till now? And has now upped his game?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Seriously...if you don't understand that then maybe you need to change your name, or read a book on motivational techniques. It's obvious to everyone that Ozil has been below par this season. The minute he's linked with a move to Man Utd he pulls out this performance. Coincidence or what? Yes, I have seen his tweet (Don't listen to the noise!) .
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No he's right your logic is terrible. You think Ozil forgot that he might need to play well this season to put himself in the shop window until some stories came out linking him to United? And besides, if he can be linked with United when playing badly anyway, where's the motivation to step up his game the next week?
It's more realistic (but less salacious) that this is just how Ozil is, and how he always has been for us. He can be amazing in some games and he can be very quiet in others, and in fact his performances usually reflect the general state of the team as a whole.
This Ozil, no one comes close to him in the league. KdB, Silva are very good no 10's and have been better due to the game changing moments and consistency they show. If only Ozil could match their consistency, he'd be miles ahead of them and would be arguably the best player in PL.
It's terrifying how there isn't a player in the world who has a similar style as him. But I really hope he puts these performances in regularly now.
comment by sammy nelson sbum (U6244)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
I fear that Ozil has upped his game because he is playing for a move to another team, either in Jan or more likely in the summer. Our chances of keeping him are nil, if he plays the rest of the season like he did today.
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No, he has upped his game because he is totally fit to play again and fed up with the rumours around him see his latest tweet.
comment by sammy nelson sbum (U6244)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
Jenius. " Don't understand the logic. By your comments you think Ozil was purposely playing below his level till now? And has now upped his game?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Seriously...if you don't understand that then maybe you need to change your name, or read a book on motivational techniques. It's obvious to everyone that Ozil has been below par this season. The minute he's linked with a move to Man Utd he pulls out this performance. Coincidence or what? Yes, I have seen his tweet (Don't listen to the noise!) .
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But that means he was not pulling his weight at Arsenal. So he never wanted to be here? What is the point in giving him a new contract if he is not motivated at Arsenal? So who cares whether he signs a new contract or not?
Ozil is pure quality. I have never doubted him.People insist on calling him a big game bottler. The problem is he needs to be surrounded by players on the same level as him. ie Germany, real madrid. Instead he has had to put up with the likes of Ramsey, and Walcott !
comment by Garwood Gunner (U7987)
posted 6 minutes ago
Ozil is pure quality. I have never doubted him.People insist on calling him a big game bottler. The problem is he needs to be surrounded by players on the same level as him. ie Germany, real madrid. Instead he has had to put up with the likes of Ramsey, and Walcott !
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That is utterly silly. No player would ever say that. Think about what you are saying.
Ozil is only good enough when he is surrounded by players who are equally good or better. So in other words he isn't very good is he? He is hiding behind the abilities of others.
The truth is Ozil is a very good player. But Wenger has been playing him behind players who do not suit his style. When Ozil was playing with Giroud, he was asked to receive the ball and then link play to Giroud. Giroud best ability is to do something similar, receive the ball and link to others around him. At Madrid when he was creating all those goals, he had two runners ahead of him. C.Ronaldo and Higuain/Benzema. Those players could receive the ball to feet or into space. In fact if you examine Ozil's career at Arsenal, he has been man of the match when he has started with Walcott and Alexis. Two willing runners. Today he had Lacazette and Alexis. Again similar attributes which is why he looked good.
Keep in mind he has to get the ball, turn and do something. If the ball doesn't come to him because he is out numbered in midfield, he will as ineffectual as any other player. Ozil doesn't have strength to hold off defenders or midfield players to find his game. Which is why he needs those of the ball runners around him to create space for him to use. And it helps when Everton are down to 10 men and have one less man in midfield.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Garwood Gunner (U7987)
posted 6 minutes ago
Ozil is pure quality. I have never doubted him.People insist on calling him a big game bottler. The problem is he needs to be surrounded by players on the same level as him. ie Germany, real madrid. Instead he has had to put up with the likes of Ramsey, and Walcott !
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That is utterly silly. No player would ever say that. Think about what you are saying.
Ozil is only good enough when he is surrounded by players who are equally good or better. So in other words he isn't very good is he? He is hiding behind the abilities of others.
The truth is Ozil is a very good player. But Wenger has been playing him behind players who do not suit his style. When Ozil was playing with Giroud, he was asked to receive the ball and then link play to Giroud. Giroud best ability is to do something similar, receive the ball and link to others around him. At Madrid when he was creating all those goals, he had two runners ahead of him. C.Ronaldo and Higuain/Benzema. Those players could receive the ball to feet or into space. In fact if you examine Ozil's career at Arsenal, he has been man of the match when he has started with Walcott and Alexis. Two willing runners. Today he had Lacazette and Alexis. Again similar attributes which is why he looked good.
Keep in mind he has to get the ball, turn and do something. If the ball doesn't come to him because he is out numbered in midfield, he will as ineffectual as any other player. Ozil doesn't have strength to hold off defenders or midfield players to find his game. Which is why he needs those of the ball runners around him to create space for him to use. And it helps when Everton are down to 10 men and have one less man in midfield.
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Perfectly put!
Ozil was great yesterday - but the cynical side of me is wondering whether he just wants to deliver performances like that to attract other clubs...
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posted on 22/10/17
We cannot get rid of Ozil and Sanchez end of story. Easily are best two players. If I was Wenger I would promise both players that we will be investing big in January on other world class players and spend massive. This is Wengers only hope but will he do it.
posted on 22/10/17
comment by Garwood Gunner (U7987)
posted 10 minutes ago
We cannot get rid of Ozil and Sanchez end of story. Easily are best two players. If I was Wenger I would promise both players that we will be investing big in January on other world class players and spend massive. This is Wengers only hope but will he do it.
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No he will not and they will both leave in jan or the summer.
posted on 22/10/17
Since when were Everton a big team?
posted on 22/10/17
Too fooking predictable! Obviously Arsenal were gonna win today, I'm so annoyed with Arsenal, I might never watch them again, too obvious they would win against this struggling Everton side, where is the excitement gone? Why did I bother watching today when I knew they would win? Livid about this tbh
posted on 22/10/17
Bad day for Arsenal fans, but at least Per and Xhaka then Cech and Monreal gave them something to moan about.
We need to focus on the negatives, not the performance of Ozil or the 5 goals or the dominant win. After all, we will no doubt lose again soon so whats the point of being happy today?
posted on 22/10/17
I fear that Ozil has upped his game because he is playing for a move to another team, either in Jan or more likely in the summer. Our chances of keeping him are nil, if he plays the rest of the season like he did today.
posted on 22/10/17
comment by sammy nelson sbum (U6244)
posted 1 minute ago
I fear that Ozil has upped his game because he is playing for a move to another team, either in Jan or more likely in the summer. Our chances of keeping him are nil, if he plays the rest of the season like he did today.
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Don't understand the logic.
By your comments you think Ozil was purposely playing below his level till now? And has now upped his game?
posted on 22/10/17
How is the "not even watching Arsenal on TV UNTIL WENGER FAACKS OFF" going Sammy?
posted on 22/10/17
Jenius. " Don't understand the logic. By your comments you think Ozil was purposely playing below his level till now? And has now upped his game?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Seriously...if you don't understand that then maybe you need to change your name, or read a book on motivational techniques. It's obvious to everyone that Ozil has been below par this season. The minute he's linked with a move to Man Utd he pulls out this performance. Coincidence or what? Yes, I have seen his tweet (Don't listen to the noise!) .
posted on 22/10/17
DJM....I see you've forgotten to take your tablets again.
posted on 22/10/17
comment by sammy nelson sbum (U6244)
posted 56 minutes ago
Jenius. " Don't understand the logic. By your comments you think Ozil was purposely playing below his level till now? And has now upped his game?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Seriously...if you don't understand that then maybe you need to change your name, or read a book on motivational techniques. It's obvious to everyone that Ozil has been below par this season. The minute he's linked with a move to Man Utd he pulls out this performance. Coincidence or what? Yes, I have seen his tweet (Don't listen to the noise!) .
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No he's right your logic is terrible. You think Ozil forgot that he might need to play well this season to put himself in the shop window until some stories came out linking him to United? And besides, if he can be linked with United when playing badly anyway, where's the motivation to step up his game the next week?
It's more realistic (but less salacious) that this is just how Ozil is, and how he always has been for us. He can be amazing in some games and he can be very quiet in others, and in fact his performances usually reflect the general state of the team as a whole.
posted on 22/10/17
This Ozil, no one comes close to him in the league. KdB, Silva are very good no 10's and have been better due to the game changing moments and consistency they show. If only Ozil could match their consistency, he'd be miles ahead of them and would be arguably the best player in PL.
It's terrifying how there isn't a player in the world who has a similar style as him. But I really hope he puts these performances in regularly now.
posted on 22/10/17
comment by sammy nelson sbum (U6244)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
I fear that Ozil has upped his game because he is playing for a move to another team, either in Jan or more likely in the summer. Our chances of keeping him are nil, if he plays the rest of the season like he did today.
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No, he has upped his game because he is totally fit to play again and fed up with the rumours around him see his latest tweet.
posted on 22/10/17
comment by sammy nelson sbum (U6244)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
Jenius. " Don't understand the logic. By your comments you think Ozil was purposely playing below his level till now? And has now upped his game?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Seriously...if you don't understand that then maybe you need to change your name, or read a book on motivational techniques. It's obvious to everyone that Ozil has been below par this season. The minute he's linked with a move to Man Utd he pulls out this performance. Coincidence or what? Yes, I have seen his tweet (Don't listen to the noise!) .
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But that means he was not pulling his weight at Arsenal. So he never wanted to be here? What is the point in giving him a new contract if he is not motivated at Arsenal? So who cares whether he signs a new contract or not?
posted on 22/10/17
Ozil is pure quality. I have never doubted him.People insist on calling him a big game bottler. The problem is he needs to be surrounded by players on the same level as him. ie Germany, real madrid. Instead he has had to put up with the likes of Ramsey, and Walcott !
posted on 22/10/17
comment by Garwood Gunner (U7987)
posted 6 minutes ago
Ozil is pure quality. I have never doubted him.People insist on calling him a big game bottler. The problem is he needs to be surrounded by players on the same level as him. ie Germany, real madrid. Instead he has had to put up with the likes of Ramsey, and Walcott !
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That is utterly silly. No player would ever say that. Think about what you are saying.
Ozil is only good enough when he is surrounded by players who are equally good or better. So in other words he isn't very good is he? He is hiding behind the abilities of others.
The truth is Ozil is a very good player. But Wenger has been playing him behind players who do not suit his style. When Ozil was playing with Giroud, he was asked to receive the ball and then link play to Giroud. Giroud best ability is to do something similar, receive the ball and link to others around him. At Madrid when he was creating all those goals, he had two runners ahead of him. C.Ronaldo and Higuain/Benzema. Those players could receive the ball to feet or into space. In fact if you examine Ozil's career at Arsenal, he has been man of the match when he has started with Walcott and Alexis. Two willing runners. Today he had Lacazette and Alexis. Again similar attributes which is why he looked good.
Keep in mind he has to get the ball, turn and do something. If the ball doesn't come to him because he is out numbered in midfield, he will as ineffectual as any other player. Ozil doesn't have strength to hold off defenders or midfield players to find his game. Which is why he needs those of the ball runners around him to create space for him to use. And it helps when Everton are down to 10 men and have one less man in midfield.
posted on 22/10/17
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Garwood Gunner (U7987)
posted 6 minutes ago
Ozil is pure quality. I have never doubted him.People insist on calling him a big game bottler. The problem is he needs to be surrounded by players on the same level as him. ie Germany, real madrid. Instead he has had to put up with the likes of Ramsey, and Walcott !
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That is utterly silly. No player would ever say that. Think about what you are saying.
Ozil is only good enough when he is surrounded by players who are equally good or better. So in other words he isn't very good is he? He is hiding behind the abilities of others.
The truth is Ozil is a very good player. But Wenger has been playing him behind players who do not suit his style. When Ozil was playing with Giroud, he was asked to receive the ball and then link play to Giroud. Giroud best ability is to do something similar, receive the ball and link to others around him. At Madrid when he was creating all those goals, he had two runners ahead of him. C.Ronaldo and Higuain/Benzema. Those players could receive the ball to feet or into space. In fact if you examine Ozil's career at Arsenal, he has been man of the match when he has started with Walcott and Alexis. Two willing runners. Today he had Lacazette and Alexis. Again similar attributes which is why he looked good.
Keep in mind he has to get the ball, turn and do something. If the ball doesn't come to him because he is out numbered in midfield, he will as ineffectual as any other player. Ozil doesn't have strength to hold off defenders or midfield players to find his game. Which is why he needs those of the ball runners around him to create space for him to use. And it helps when Everton are down to 10 men and have one less man in midfield.
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Perfectly put!
posted on 23/10/17
Ozil was great yesterday - but the cynical side of me is wondering whether he just wants to deliver performances like that to attract other clubs...
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