Is twitter down or am I shadow banned for saying Richard Tice is a Russian stooge? 🤔
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posted 5 minutes ago
“We tackle these behaviours I would suggest would be likely to have a far more profound impact on rates of assault than targeting trans people“
Again, this is not about targeting trans people or attacking trans people, but protecting women.
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It is targeting trans people. Who have, for a long time, been using the toilet that aligns to their gender as opposed to their shex at birth. Why do you think it is not about targeting trans people, given the policy is “you trans people, you can’t urinate or defacate here”?
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If there is no increased danger with gender neutral toilets and such then why is it a problem to have male, female and neutral facilities? It’s not targeting, that’s victim linguistics, it’s categorising which is something we do throughout society in many, many ways.
If someone has no issue using the same facilities as any of the god knows how many genders, then they can use the gender neutral facilities. Men’s are for men and women’s are for women.
You might not agree with the safety aspect and your friends and/or spouses might not. But that doesn’t mean that there aren’t women who feel very uncomfortable (let alone children) undressing around someone who identifies as a woman but is still hairy and pardon my French but still has *ôck. It’s not bigotry, it’s not transphobia; lots of people just don’t want to share spaces that involves de-robing with people of the opposite s3x (gender is separate). It’s not that difficult to understand or respect that.
You can use the neutral toilets, your wife can, anyone can. Go for it. But if we’re going to purport to being truly inclusive, then let’s include those whom are not comfortable and want a separate space designated by s3x as we have generally had across the world for the last god knows how many years.
3 spaces MFN is clearly the best compromise to suit all.
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I’m unsure of the practicalities of converting the hundreds of thousands or indeed millions of toilet setups in public spaces into your MFN proposal.
Now you pivoted to the general term “facilities” as opposed to “toilets”, so would ask that we stick with toilets. Does your position re “facilities” also carry over to toilets?
And it seems you have a position where if a trans person has had “bottom” surgery, you are fine with them being in the changing room of their gender, is this correct?
Feeling uncomfortable because a someone who is part of a marginalised minority is close to you, or undressing near you; that is what you are suggesting is not bigotry or transphobia. Now imagine that the minority was a gay man in the 80s, or a black man in the 50s? This “feeling uncomfortable” is exactly the type of politically correct positioning those who didn’t want black people near them, or gay people near them. We would call these homophobia and racism. Why not call a spade a spade and refer to it as transphobia?
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As Insert and I mentioned, the cost to do this, and the real estate would be very difficult indeed.
You keep framing things and twisting things mate, I’m starting to regret engaging.
It’s not fear of a marginalised group, it’s literally being a woman and being in a space where there are exposed male genitalia around. Same for little girls.
There is the additional concern that straight males will take advantage of these spaces and assault females. If there is no such risk, then there is no problem having a neutral toilet.
I use the term facilities because this issue doesn’t just affect toilets. It’s also relevant to changing rooms in shops, leisure centres, gyms etc etc. facilities is the most appropriate term in this regard.
If someone were to refuse to acknowledge someone post-op then this would be transphobia, let us not pretend that there isn’t a difference between a 6ft guy with a beard, makeup, a dress and male genitalia and someone that has gone through the whole operation.
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What do you feel I’m mis-framing?
We’re getting somewhere though. So I think what you’re saying is some women fear cis-het men assaulting them? And so as a result, trans women (and trans men?) are to be excluded from certain spaces. Is that correct? Or is it that some women fear trans women? And note when I say “some women” it is measurably “a minority of women”.
What I’m trying to get to is this; some women fear cis het men, and so we restrict trans women. Thus, the policy is absolutely “targeting” trans people, which was my point a few post up.
Or
Some women fear trans women? Which I would suggest points to straight up transphobia.
I separate out toilets as the ability to have somewhere where you can relieve yourself is more of an inalienable right (to me) than something like changing rooms in a sports centre. In short, you can avoid doing sport, but you can’t really avoid going to the toilet.
I think you’re differentiation is an interesting one, and thank you for clarifying that it is “bottom surgery” that you see as the transition point, pun very much intended!
The hair, height etc are actually alluding to what I mentioned previously, where cis women who don’t conform to societal norms regarding appearance are being harassed, by other women. Not by trans women mind, by cis women.
On your other post; you mentioned all the kinds of mates you have. Noticeably, not trans mates?
You and I agree in terms of tic tok folk like Andrew rare and the hugely negative impact people like him have on young people. Speaking to teachers, in what we used to call PSE, people like him are a much more significantly negatively harming young people than any trans person.
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Crouchy called it and rightly left it. Going round and round in circles.
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 53 minutes ago
Is twitter down or am I shadow banned for saying Richard Tice is a Russian stooge? 🤔
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It’s down
comment by #4zA Napul3 (U22472)
posted about an hour ago
Witch regulars r Russia agents other than Peks?
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Spyro 12
comment by Jonathan Moore (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 53 minutes ago
Is twitter down or am I shadow banned for saying Richard Tice is a Russian stooge? 🤔
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It’s down
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Just came back up now I think
Didn't think I would say this, but fair play to JSO for the protest at Pride today, wasn't sure they would go through with it but this was a completely legitimate opportunity, given the pinkwashing from the likes of Shell. Would've been witnessed by many thousand people present with minimal disruption.
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 9 hours, 27 minutes ago
You've highlighted the problem with "the west" as you see it Peks, what's your solution?
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9 hours and 27 minutes and little virgin Peks has nothing. Just pizz and vinegar.
Must be a Saturday half shift at the troll factory.
What does "pink washing" mean?
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 4 minutes ago
What does "pink washing" mean?
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Oil companies sponsoring pride events.
Lot of gay people aren't in favour of sponsorship from them either.
Isn't lubrication an essential part of gayness?
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 4 minutes ago
Isn't lubrication an essential part of gayness?
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If it's really tight I recommend extra virgin olive oil.
To address extreme levels of data scraping & system manipulation, we’ve applied the following temporary limits:
- Verified accounts are limited to reading 6000 posts/day
- Unverified accounts to 600 posts/day
- New unverified accounts to 300/day
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1675187969420828672?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
What the absolute fack
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And then what?
Might explain why I can't see Twitter at all at the moment. Usually I can see some of it without logging in, but not now.
comment by tliv7-0 (U11882)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Jonathan Moore (U11781)
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To address extreme levels of data scraping & system manipulation, we’ve applied the following temporary limits:
- Verified accounts are limited to reading 6000 posts/day
- Unverified accounts to 600 posts/day
- New unverified accounts to 300/day
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1675187969420828672?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
What the absolute fack
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What does that mean
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It means Musk needs executing
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Funny. I just signed up to twitter yesterday.
I hope Mr Musk doesn't blame me for this.
Never had a Twitter account. Don't plan on getting one, I've only ever been on it when I've seen a link somewhere. So I'll probably never see a tweet again unless it's embedded somewhere or screenshotted.
Musk is so facking useless
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 13 minutes ago
Never had a Twitter account. Don't plan on getting one, I've only ever been on it when I've seen a link somewhere. So I'll probably never see a tweet again unless it's embedded somewhere or screenshotted.
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Yeh well I coudnt access any links on here yesterday it kept directing me to the sign up page and finally i gave up just to see 1 post. Fvk it.
Sign in if you want to comment
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posted on 1/7/23
Is twitter down or am I shadow banned for saying Richard Tice is a Russian stooge? 🤔
posted on 1/7/23
Just u
posted on 1/7/23
Well I had a good run
posted on 1/7/23
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 16 hours, 36 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 5 minutes ago
“We tackle these behaviours I would suggest would be likely to have a far more profound impact on rates of assault than targeting trans people“
Again, this is not about targeting trans people or attacking trans people, but protecting women.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is targeting trans people. Who have, for a long time, been using the toilet that aligns to their gender as opposed to their shex at birth. Why do you think it is not about targeting trans people, given the policy is “you trans people, you can’t urinate or defacate here”?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If there is no increased danger with gender neutral toilets and such then why is it a problem to have male, female and neutral facilities? It’s not targeting, that’s victim linguistics, it’s categorising which is something we do throughout society in many, many ways.
If someone has no issue using the same facilities as any of the god knows how many genders, then they can use the gender neutral facilities. Men’s are for men and women’s are for women.
You might not agree with the safety aspect and your friends and/or spouses might not. But that doesn’t mean that there aren’t women who feel very uncomfortable (let alone children) undressing around someone who identifies as a woman but is still hairy and pardon my French but still has *ôck. It’s not bigotry, it’s not transphobia; lots of people just don’t want to share spaces that involves de-robing with people of the opposite s3x (gender is separate). It’s not that difficult to understand or respect that.
You can use the neutral toilets, your wife can, anyone can. Go for it. But if we’re going to purport to being truly inclusive, then let’s include those whom are not comfortable and want a separate space designated by s3x as we have generally had across the world for the last god knows how many years.
3 spaces MFN is clearly the best compromise to suit all.
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I’m unsure of the practicalities of converting the hundreds of thousands or indeed millions of toilet setups in public spaces into your MFN proposal.
Now you pivoted to the general term “facilities” as opposed to “toilets”, so would ask that we stick with toilets. Does your position re “facilities” also carry over to toilets?
And it seems you have a position where if a trans person has had “bottom” surgery, you are fine with them being in the changing room of their gender, is this correct?
Feeling uncomfortable because a someone who is part of a marginalised minority is close to you, or undressing near you; that is what you are suggesting is not bigotry or transphobia. Now imagine that the minority was a gay man in the 80s, or a black man in the 50s? This “feeling uncomfortable” is exactly the type of politically correct positioning those who didn’t want black people near them, or gay people near them. We would call these homophobia and racism. Why not call a spade a spade and refer to it as transphobia?
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As Insert and I mentioned, the cost to do this, and the real estate would be very difficult indeed.
You keep framing things and twisting things mate, I’m starting to regret engaging.
It’s not fear of a marginalised group, it’s literally being a woman and being in a space where there are exposed male genitalia around. Same for little girls.
There is the additional concern that straight males will take advantage of these spaces and assault females. If there is no such risk, then there is no problem having a neutral toilet.
I use the term facilities because this issue doesn’t just affect toilets. It’s also relevant to changing rooms in shops, leisure centres, gyms etc etc. facilities is the most appropriate term in this regard.
If someone were to refuse to acknowledge someone post-op then this would be transphobia, let us not pretend that there isn’t a difference between a 6ft guy with a beard, makeup, a dress and male genitalia and someone that has gone through the whole operation.
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What do you feel I’m mis-framing?
We’re getting somewhere though. So I think what you’re saying is some women fear cis-het men assaulting them? And so as a result, trans women (and trans men?) are to be excluded from certain spaces. Is that correct? Or is it that some women fear trans women? And note when I say “some women” it is measurably “a minority of women”.
What I’m trying to get to is this; some women fear cis het men, and so we restrict trans women. Thus, the policy is absolutely “targeting” trans people, which was my point a few post up.
Or
Some women fear trans women? Which I would suggest points to straight up transphobia.
I separate out toilets as the ability to have somewhere where you can relieve yourself is more of an inalienable right (to me) than something like changing rooms in a sports centre. In short, you can avoid doing sport, but you can’t really avoid going to the toilet.
I think you’re differentiation is an interesting one, and thank you for clarifying that it is “bottom surgery” that you see as the transition point, pun very much intended!
The hair, height etc are actually alluding to what I mentioned previously, where cis women who don’t conform to societal norms regarding appearance are being harassed, by other women. Not by trans women mind, by cis women.
On your other post; you mentioned all the kinds of mates you have. Noticeably, not trans mates?
You and I agree in terms of tic tok folk like Andrew rare and the hugely negative impact people like him have on young people. Speaking to teachers, in what we used to call PSE, people like him are a much more significantly negatively harming young people than any trans person.
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Crouchy called it and rightly left it. Going round and round in circles.
posted on 1/7/23
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 53 minutes ago
Is twitter down or am I shadow banned for saying Richard Tice is a Russian stooge? 🤔
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It’s down
posted on 1/7/23
comment by #4zA Napul3 (U22472)
posted about an hour ago
Witch regulars r Russia agents other than Peks?
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Spyro 12
posted on 1/7/23
comment by Jonathan Moore (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 53 minutes ago
Is twitter down or am I shadow banned for saying Richard Tice is a Russian stooge? 🤔
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It’s down
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Just came back up now I think
posted on 1/7/23
Didn't think I would say this, but fair play to JSO for the protest at Pride today, wasn't sure they would go through with it but this was a completely legitimate opportunity, given the pinkwashing from the likes of Shell. Would've been witnessed by many thousand people present with minimal disruption.
posted on 1/7/23
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 9 hours, 27 minutes ago
You've highlighted the problem with "the west" as you see it Peks, what's your solution?
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9 hours and 27 minutes and little virgin Peks has nothing. Just pizz and vinegar.
Must be a Saturday half shift at the troll factory.
posted on 1/7/23
What does "pink washing" mean?
posted on 1/7/23
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 4 minutes ago
What does "pink washing" mean?
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Oil companies sponsoring pride events.
Lot of gay people aren't in favour of sponsorship from them either.
posted on 1/7/23
Ah okay.
posted on 1/7/23
Isn't lubrication an essential part of gayness?
posted on 1/7/23
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 4 minutes ago
Isn't lubrication an essential part of gayness?
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If it's really tight I recommend extra virgin olive oil.
posted on 1/7/23
To address extreme levels of data scraping & system manipulation, we’ve applied the following temporary limits:
- Verified accounts are limited to reading 6000 posts/day
- Unverified accounts to 600 posts/day
- New unverified accounts to 300/day
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1675187969420828672?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
What the absolute fack
posted on 1/7/23
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posted on 1/7/23
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posted on 1/7/23
And then what?
Might explain why I can't see Twitter at all at the moment. Usually I can see some of it without logging in, but not now.
posted on 1/7/23
bots i guess
posted on 1/7/23
comment by tliv7-0 (U11882)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Jonathan Moore (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
To address extreme levels of data scraping & system manipulation, we’ve applied the following temporary limits:
- Verified accounts are limited to reading 6000 posts/day
- Unverified accounts to 600 posts/day
- New unverified accounts to 300/day
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1675187969420828672?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
What the absolute fack
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What does that mean
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It means Musk needs executing
posted on 1/7/23
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posted on 1/7/23
Funny. I just signed up to twitter yesterday.
I hope Mr Musk doesn't blame me for this.
posted on 1/7/23
Never had a Twitter account. Don't plan on getting one, I've only ever been on it when I've seen a link somewhere. So I'll probably never see a tweet again unless it's embedded somewhere or screenshotted.
posted on 1/7/23
Musk is so facking useless
posted on 1/7/23
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 13 minutes ago
Never had a Twitter account. Don't plan on getting one, I've only ever been on it when I've seen a link somewhere. So I'll probably never see a tweet again unless it's embedded somewhere or screenshotted.
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Yeh well I coudnt access any links on here yesterday it kept directing me to the sign up page and finally i gave up just to see 1 post. Fvk it.
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