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posted on 5/10/24

You tryna say there was no better way than Empire? It's utter bullsheet as it can be argued, and indeed is the case that everything that's happened would have still happened anyway and in a far far better way than it did without racist, enslaving, colonising, white supremacy caaants taking over the world. (Overall force for good )

Trying to tell us that the people's of the world that were subjugated were better off subjugated, enslaved, killed and controlled, instead of being admitted as equals to an already existing international community, to sell their wealth in a fair market and buy what they want from others with their wealth. Is that what you're saying?

Europe is poor in resources and natural wealth, especially the western part, and would have been the poorest, most jobless continent without their empires, colonisation and military might borne out of millennia of intense never ending regionally concentrated warfare, to steal everyone else's wealth and concentrate it in Europe, tripping on white supremacy all the way.

They basically said fack it, why should we go in begging them to sell to us their produce and minerals? They're weaker than us, we can jus go in and take it. That's how Empire cane into existence. It was a purely a money grab which of course the children and descendants of empire have done well to try to create a (laughable) argument that Empire was an overall force for good.

In 2024 there's still people that believe what they were taught in school because they can't just come out and teach little kids that Empire's job was to steal people, their wealth, their knowledge and concentrate it in Europe and that's why they have such a great life. They shamelessly teach the kids that we went out to civilise the world, but they have no choice but to teach that as the truth is too gruesome

Don't forget, "civilising the world" means stealing anything that isn't nailed down, outlawing all factories, industries, technologies or innovation in all the colonies to ensure they're all done in Europe, shipping raw materials from colonies and finished goods to colonies to ensure an industrial revolution in Europe and mass poverty and confusion in colonies.

They didn't have to take over the kingdoms, use scorch and burn policy on entire continents, destroy cities and civilisation, steal all the knowledge and medicine and rebrand absolutely everything under the image of white supremacy, and then claim they found nothing there and that the inhabitants were subhuman and primitive in order for the world to get where it is now.

Furthermore, look at consequences and aftermath that we are living in, with wars, ethnic cleansings, poverty, generational trauma and all the other effects

Happy to debate this with you

posted on 5/10/24

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 18 hours, 12 minutes ago
comment by Jake Moon (U11781)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Lindsay Graham commenting on the floods in the USA :
Our money has to go to Israel first, otherwise Iran will invade American soil.


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Does he mean that Israel is considered as 'American soil'?
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America is Israeli soil.

posted on 5/10/24

comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 8 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 18 hours, 12 minutes ago
comment by Jake Moon (U11781)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Lindsay Graham commenting on the floods in the USA :
Our money has to go to Israel first, otherwise Iran will invade American soil.


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Does he mean that Israel is considered as 'American soil'?
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America is Israeli soil.
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In the last 11 months, Israel has received more money from America than all US States bar New York, California and Texas.

posted on 5/10/24

comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 8 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 18 hours, 12 minutes ago
comment by Jake Moon (U11781)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Lindsay Graham commenting on the floods in the USA :
Our money has to go to Israel first, otherwise Iran will invade American soil.


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Does he mean that Israel is considered as 'American soil'?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
America is Israeli soil.
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In the last 11 months, Israel has received more money from America than all US States bar New York, California and Texas.
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They keep crying about money going to Ukraine but not a peep about Israel.

posted on 5/10/24

Teen obsessed with Andrew Tate beats woman to death then posts 'sickening' Snapchat video

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/teen-obsessed-andrew-tate-beats-33826065.amp

Inevitable, and sadly won’t be the last.

posted on 5/10/24

Hamza Yousef seriously embarrasses Sky News presenter

https://x.com/palbint/status/1842547412679700765?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw

posted on 5/10/24

Huge explosions in Beirut apartment buildings tonight from the Naaazi’s

https://x.com/leila_ma/status/1842674882401722788?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw

posted on 6/10/24

comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 1 day, 3 hours ago
You tryna say there was no better way than Empire? It's utter bullsheet as it can be argued, and indeed is the case that everything that's happened would have still happened anyway and in a far far better way than it did without racist, enslaving, colonising, white supremacy caaants taking over the world. (Overall force for good)

Trying to tell us that the people's of the world that were subjugated were better off subjugated, enslaved, killed and controlled, instead of being admitted as equals to an already existing international community, to sell their wealth in a fair market and buy what they want from others with their wealth. Is that what you're saying?

Europe is poor in resources and natural wealth, especially the western part, and would have been the poorest, most jobless continent without their empires, colonisation and military might borne out of millennia of intense never ending regionally concentrated warfare, to steal everyone else's wealth and concentrate it in Europe, tripping on white supremacy all the way.

They basically said fack it, why should we go in begging them to sell to us their produce and minerals? They're weaker than us, we can jus go in and take it. That's how Empire cane into existence. It was a purely a money grab which of course the children and descendants of empire have done well to try to create a (laughable) argument that Empire was an overall force for good.

In 2024 there's still people that believe what they were taught in school because they can't just come out and teach little kids that Empire's job was to steal people, their wealth, their knowledge and concentrate it in Europe and that's why they have such a great life. They shamelessly teach the kids that we went out to civilise the world, but they have no choice but to teach that as the truth is too gruesome

Don't forget, "civilising the world" means stealing anything that isn't nailed down, outlawing all factories, industries, technologies or innovation in all the colonies to ensure they're all done in Europe, shipping raw materials from colonies and finished goods to colonies to ensure an industrial revolution in Europe and mass poverty and confusion in colonies.

They didn't have to take over the kingdoms, use scorch and burn policy on entire continents, destroy cities and civilisation, steal all the knowledge and medicine and rebrand absolutely everything under the image of white supremacy, and then claim they found nothing there and that the inhabitants were subhuman and primitive in order for the world to get where it is now.

Furthermore, look at consequences and aftermath that we are living in, with wars, ethnic cleansings, poverty, generational trauma and all the other effects

Happy to debate this with you
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Love how I haven’t even started to make arguments yet here you are responding to points that you cannot even straw man yet because I haven’t written anything. That post got you salivating too hard eh mambinator?


I will make an alternative proposition to you Señor Mamba: why don’t you make my arguments for me and I’ll make your arguments for you on this matter.

We can both steel man each other’s perspectives? A bit more interesting than the norm, no?

posted on 6/10/24

comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 1 day, 9 hours ago
I think you probably worded that claim quite badly, to be fair. It presupposes that it’s been universally a good thing, which ignores a lot of context. But I think I know what you meant by it from impact on humanity.
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I think that given that you understood exactly what I meant, then I clearly phrased it perfectly well.

I deliberately used overall and all things considered ie. Indicating that there was good and bad but after weighing it all up - it was an overall good influence al things considered.

posted on 6/10/24

Daily Mail still convinced that Starmer is encouraging the Argentina military to invade and occupy the Falkland Islands

posted on 6/10/24

comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 12 minutes ago
Daily Mail still convinced that Starmer is encouraging the Argentina military to invade and occupy the Falkland Islands
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You’re kidding? lol I’ve gotta see this….

posted on 6/10/24

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 12 minutes ago
Daily Mail still convinced that Starmer is encouraging the Argentina military to invade and occupy the Falkland Islands
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You’re kidding? lol I’ve gotta see this….
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Its been going on all week in The Mail

Next week it'll be probably that Starmer 'eats babies'.

posted on 6/10/24

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 1 day, 3 hours ago
You tryna say there was no better way than Empire? It's utter bullsheet as it can be argued, and indeed is the case that everything that's happened would have still happened anyway and in a far far better way than it did without racist, enslaving, colonising, white supremacy caaants taking over the world. (Overall force for good)

Trying to tell us that the people's of the world that were subjugated were better off subjugated, enslaved, killed and controlled, instead of being admitted as equals to an already existing international community, to sell their wealth in a fair market and buy what they want from others with their wealth. Is that what you're saying?

Europe is poor in resources and natural wealth, especially the western part, and would have been the poorest, most jobless continent without their empires, colonisation and military might borne out of millennia of intense never ending regionally concentrated warfare, to steal everyone else's wealth and concentrate it in Europe, tripping on white supremacy all the way.

They basically said fack it, why should we go in begging them to sell to us their produce and minerals? They're weaker than us, we can jus go in and take it. That's how Empire cane into existence. It was a purely a money grab which of course the children and descendants of empire have done well to try to create a (laughable) argument that Empire was an overall force for good.

In 2024 there's still people that believe what they were taught in school because they can't just come out and teach little kids that Empire's job was to steal people, their wealth, their knowledge and concentrate it in Europe and that's why they have such a great life. They shamelessly teach the kids that we went out to civilise the world, but they have no choice but to teach that as the truth is too gruesome

Don't forget, "civilising the world" means stealing anything that isn't nailed down, outlawing all factories, industries, technologies or innovation in all the colonies to ensure they're all done in Europe, shipping raw materials from colonies and finished goods to colonies to ensure an industrial revolution in Europe and mass poverty and confusion in colonies.

They didn't have to take over the kingdoms, use scorch and burn policy on entire continents, destroy cities and civilisation, steal all the knowledge and medicine and rebrand absolutely everything under the image of white supremacy, and then claim they found nothing there and that the inhabitants were subhuman and primitive in order for the world to get where it is now.

Furthermore, look at consequences and aftermath that we are living in, with wars, ethnic cleansings, poverty, generational trauma and all the other effects

Happy to debate this with you
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Love how I haven’t even started to make arguments yet here you are responding to points that you cannot even straw man yet because I haven’t written anything. That post got you salivating too hard eh mambinator?


I will make an alternative proposition to you Señor Mamba: why don’t you make my arguments for me and I’ll make your arguments for you on this matter.

We can both steel man each other’s perspectives? A bit more interesting than the norm, no?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Must admit saying that the British Empire was an overall force for good is a bold statement to make.

You understand why some from former colonies might have a different opinion?

posted on 6/10/24

comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 1 day, 3 hours ago
You tryna say there was no better way than Empire? It's utter bullsheet as it can be argued, and indeed is the case that everything that's happened would have still happened anyway and in a far far better way than it did without racist, enslaving, colonising, white supremacy caaants taking over the world. (Overall force for good)

Trying to tell us that the people's of the world that were subjugated were better off subjugated, enslaved, killed and controlled, instead of being admitted as equals to an already existing international community, to sell their wealth in a fair market and buy what they want from others with their wealth. Is that what you're saying?

Europe is poor in resources and natural wealth, especially the western part, and would have been the poorest, most jobless continent without their empires, colonisation and military might borne out of millennia of intense never ending regionally concentrated warfare, to steal everyone else's wealth and concentrate it in Europe, tripping on white supremacy all the way.

They basically said fack it, why should we go in begging them to sell to us their produce and minerals? They're weaker than us, we can jus go in and take it. That's how Empire cane into existence. It was a purely a money grab which of course the children and descendants of empire have done well to try to create a (laughable) argument that Empire was an overall force for good.

In 2024 there's still people that believe what they were taught in school because they can't just come out and teach little kids that Empire's job was to steal people, their wealth, their knowledge and concentrate it in Europe and that's why they have such a great life. They shamelessly teach the kids that we went out to civilise the world, but they have no choice but to teach that as the truth is too gruesome

Don't forget, "civilising the world" means stealing anything that isn't nailed down, outlawing all factories, industries, technologies or innovation in all the colonies to ensure they're all done in Europe, shipping raw materials from colonies and finished goods to colonies to ensure an industrial revolution in Europe and mass poverty and confusion in colonies.

They didn't have to take over the kingdoms, use scorch and burn policy on entire continents, destroy cities and civilisation, steal all the knowledge and medicine and rebrand absolutely everything under the image of white supremacy, and then claim they found nothing there and that the inhabitants were subhuman and primitive in order for the world to get where it is now.

Furthermore, look at consequences and aftermath that we are living in, with wars, ethnic cleansings, poverty, generational trauma and all the other effects

Happy to debate this with you
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Love how I haven’t even started to make arguments yet here you are responding to points that you cannot even straw man yet because I haven’t written anything. That post got you salivating too hard eh mambinator?


I will make an alternative proposition to you Señor Mamba: why don’t you make my arguments for me and I’ll make your arguments for you on this matter.

We can both steel man each other’s perspectives? A bit more interesting than the norm, no?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Must admit saying that the British Empire was an overall force for good is a bold statement to make.

You understand why some from former colonies might have a different opinion?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I do understand this, yes. Do you understand why it was a force of good (not necessarily an overall force but at least the reasons why it was?)

posted on 6/10/24

And I’d say that’s it’s only a ‘bold statement to make’ because only one side of the discussion is ever made, reported and taught. If more people learned more of facts from both positives & negatives people would have a much more balanced view. Whereas if I polled on here for example it would be a resounding ‘force of eviiiiiiiiillllll’

posted on 6/10/24

Anyway, I’ve got pumpkin picking to do before watching bald get sacked

Toodles y’all

posted on 6/10/24

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 1 day, 3 hours ago
You tryna say there was no better way than Empire? It's utter bullsheet as it can be argued, and indeed is the case that everything that's happened would have still happened anyway and in a far far better way than it did without racist, enslaving, colonising, white supremacy caaants taking over the world. (Overall force for good)

Trying to tell us that the people's of the world that were subjugated were better off subjugated, enslaved, killed and controlled, instead of being admitted as equals to an already existing international community, to sell their wealth in a fair market and buy what they want from others with their wealth. Is that what you're saying?

Europe is poor in resources and natural wealth, especially the western part, and would have been the poorest, most jobless continent without their empires, colonisation and military might borne out of millennia of intense never ending regionally concentrated warfare, to steal everyone else's wealth and concentrate it in Europe, tripping on white supremacy all the way.

They basically said fack it, why should we go in begging them to sell to us their produce and minerals? They're weaker than us, we can jus go in and take it. That's how Empire cane into existence. It was a purely a money grab which of course the children and descendants of empire have done well to try to create a (laughable) argument that Empire was an overall force for good.

In 2024 there's still people that believe what they were taught in school because they can't just come out and teach little kids that Empire's job was to steal people, their wealth, their knowledge and concentrate it in Europe and that's why they have such a great life. They shamelessly teach the kids that we went out to civilise the world, but they have no choice but to teach that as the truth is too gruesome

Don't forget, "civilising the world" means stealing anything that isn't nailed down, outlawing all factories, industries, technologies or innovation in all the colonies to ensure they're all done in Europe, shipping raw materials from colonies and finished goods to colonies to ensure an industrial revolution in Europe and mass poverty and confusion in colonies.

They didn't have to take over the kingdoms, use scorch and burn policy on entire continents, destroy cities and civilisation, steal all the knowledge and medicine and rebrand absolutely everything under the image of white supremacy, and then claim they found nothing there and that the inhabitants were subhuman and primitive in order for the world to get where it is now.

Furthermore, look at consequences and aftermath that we are living in, with wars, ethnic cleansings, poverty, generational trauma and all the other effects

Happy to debate this with you
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Love how I haven’t even started to make arguments yet here you are responding to points that you cannot even straw man yet because I haven’t written anything. That post got you salivating too hard eh mambinator?


I will make an alternative proposition to you Señor Mamba: why don’t you make my arguments for me and I’ll make your arguments for you on this matter.

We can both steel man each other’s perspectives? A bit more interesting than the norm, no?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Must admit saying that the British Empire was an overall force for good is a bold statement to make.

You understand why some from former colonies might have a different opinion?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I do understand this, yes. Do you understand why it was a force of good (not necessarily an overall force but at least the reasons why it was?)
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From a British perspective yes. You can point to things like infrastructure, railways, or soft power like sport. I don't think it's a statement we can make as Brits who never experienced what it was like to have our country colonised. From what I remember from school education on our colonial past was very sanitised from the reality you subsequently learn about.

posted on 6/10/24

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 1 day, 3 hours ago
You tryna say there was no better way than Empire? It's utter bullsheet as it can be argued, and indeed is the case that everything that's happened would have still happened anyway and in a far far better way than it did without racist, enslaving, colonising, white supremacy caaants taking over the world. (Overall force for good)

Trying to tell us that the people's of the world that were subjugated were better off subjugated, enslaved, killed and controlled, instead of being admitted as equals to an already existing international community, to sell their wealth in a fair market and buy what they want from others with their wealth. Is that what you're saying?

Europe is poor in resources and natural wealth, especially the western part, and would have been the poorest, most jobless continent without their empires, colonisation and military might borne out of millennia of intense never ending regionally concentrated warfare, to steal everyone else's wealth and concentrate it in Europe, tripping on white supremacy all the way.

They basically said fack it, why should we go in begging them to sell to us their produce and minerals? They're weaker than us, we can jus go in and take it. That's how Empire cane into existence. It was a purely a money grab which of course the children and descendants of empire have done well to try to create a (laughable) argument that Empire was an overall force for good.

In 2024 there's still people that believe what they were taught in school because they can't just come out and teach little kids that Empire's job was to steal people, their wealth, their knowledge and concentrate it in Europe and that's why they have such a great life. They shamelessly teach the kids that we went out to civilise the world, but they have no choice but to teach that as the truth is too gruesome

Don't forget, "civilising the world" means stealing anything that isn't nailed down, outlawing all factories, industries, technologies or innovation in all the colonies to ensure they're all done in Europe, shipping raw materials from colonies and finished goods to colonies to ensure an industrial revolution in Europe and mass poverty and confusion in colonies.

They didn't have to take over the kingdoms, use scorch and burn policy on entire continents, destroy cities and civilisation, steal all the knowledge and medicine and rebrand absolutely everything under the image of white supremacy, and then claim they found nothing there and that the inhabitants were subhuman and primitive in order for the world to get where it is now.

Furthermore, look at consequences and aftermath that we are living in, with wars, ethnic cleansings, poverty, generational trauma and all the other effects

Happy to debate this with you
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Love how I haven’t even started to make arguments yet here you are responding to points that you cannot even straw man yet because I haven’t written anything. That post got you salivating too hard eh mambinator?

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No, I know your MO so I wanted to get my shots in early before you run away as usual.

posted on 6/10/24

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 25 minutes ago
Anyway, I’ve got pumpkin picking to do before watching bald get sacked

Toodles y’all
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See. Like clockwork.

posted on 6/10/24

comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 25 minutes ago
Anyway, I’ve got pumpkin picking to do before watching bald get sacked

Toodles y’all
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See. Like clockwork.
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Because it’s not possible to come back and reply later? Genius

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 6/10/24

Buck buck buck baaaah

posted on 6/10/24

From a British perspective yes. You can point to things like infrastructure, railways, or soft power like sport. I don't think it's a statement we can make as Brits who never experienced what it was like to have our country colonised. From what I remember from school education on our colonial past was very sanitised from the reality you subsequently learn about
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Even the infrastructure is a joke argument. In fact, the most pathetic one going. The infrastructure was only put in place to support the exploitation of the interior and smooth movement of resources and wealth to the Empires. They made it only as far as it was necessary to do that. The planning and architecture did not envision independence and was made to fit the colonial structure and segregation. It was unfit for purpose and another remnant bottleneck for colonies as they gained independence.

Not to mention the divide and rule strategy where they fostered and left behind passionate hatred and tribalism between tribes and peoples, some of which runs to this day and gas caused countless coups and conflicts, which the west has continued to instigate even after independence.

Who told them the colonised could not have afforded to pay for their own infrastructure by selling their wealth and knowledge? The resource rich nations would have been rich and would have hired your engineers and paid them life changing amounts of money. They stole wealth that cannot even be quantified and left behind one or two railways here and there. At least there's that so let's give them a pat on the back. Excellent work.

posted on 6/10/24

What about Ghengis Khan?

He started it and always gets an easy ride

posted on 6/10/24

Yeah but what did the Romans do for us,apart from introducing potholes.

posted on 6/10/24

I wonder if African comedians ever say “What did the the Europeans ever do for us?”

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