comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Maximus Decimus Meridius (U11781)
posted 6 minutes ago
Housing minister Matthew Pennycook tells MPs the govt's target to build 1.5m new homes over this parliament is “an incredibly stretching target" and would be “more difficult” to achieve than expected. But he says this is not just deliverable, but “essential”.
Deary me
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It’s a physical impossibility for many reasons. Anyone in construction will clarify that.
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If they fail and yet achieve 50% of their target, that's still an improvement on what's gone before and we need houses.
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The indicators are that the actual build numbers will be behind last years.
Look, and additional and affordable housing is good in many aspects. Sadly the legislation and lack of money makes that an almost impossible task.
And it’s probably not worth my time or anyone else’s to point out that these numbers given out by the government were a stated objective in which they will again fail to meet.
That aside however. More house building and real infrastructure programmes are a massive box tick and might, just might save this party for the next election.
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"Last years" isn't the plan I believe, it's a full term target.
To achieve what they're aiming for will need the promised overhaul of planning and land banking.
We're not allowed to talk about why there isn't any money.
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You’re allowed Hector
A major part of the problem is the notion of house builders providing “affordable housing”. They don’t. They make a payment to the local authority who then spend the money elsewhere.
And then there’s the legislation, lack of trades and lack of building materials. We just don’t have the capacity.
Cue Hovis advert
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Maximus Decimus Meridius (U11781)
posted 6 minutes ago
Housing minister Matthew Pennycook tells MPs the govt's target to build 1.5m new homes over this parliament is “an incredibly stretching target" and would be “more difficult” to achieve than expected. But he says this is not just deliverable, but “essential”.
Deary me
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It’s a physical impossibility for many reasons. Anyone in construction will clarify that.
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If they fail and yet achieve 50% of their target, that's still an improvement on what's gone before and we need houses.
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The indicators are that the actual build numbers will be behind last years.
Look, and additional and affordable housing is good in many aspects. Sadly the legislation and lack of money makes that an almost impossible task.
And it’s probably not worth my time or anyone else’s to point out that these numbers given out by the government were a stated objective in which they will again fail to meet.
That aside however. More house building and real infrastructure programmes are a massive box tick and might, just might save this party for the next election.
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Probably unfair to judge them on this year's build numbers given they weren't in power for the first 7 months and need time to implement the policy. I wouldn't even think of looking at annual numbers until next year.
Also, the whole idea of a stretch target is that if you fail to meet it, you still progress. If they improve the numbers year on year, that would still be a success in my opinion. Especially given the previous government failed to ever reach their target of 300,000 new homes per year.
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There are CPA analyses and the like to use as a guide
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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The indicators are that the actual build numbers will be behind last years.
Look, and additional and affordable housing is good in many aspects. Sadly the legislation and lack of money makes that an almost impossible task.
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They are trying to get shareholder owned house builders to build highly energy efficient affordable homes. Almost impossible.
Can't just allow people to chuck up some prefabs can they. That would be far too practical.
Who the fack is this mug on the Tory bench
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
Ginger why do you cry when people call you the worst kind of a smug lying tory tw@t... which you are, and moan that resorting to insults and swearing is losing the arguement...and then resort to throwing insults and telling people to eff off yourself to try and win your arguement.
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“smug lying tory tw@t” to be followed by me resorting to insults?
Did you really just type that? Amazing
You like others scream of rank jealousy and hypocrisy. You just don’t like and accept getting it back. It winds you up that your bizarre wishes of my pips being squeaked and being “made to pay” have turned into nothing. You are quite clearly very upset that my life and career has generally been one of sound and self made worth. That’s not a boast as you intimated the other day. It’s a fact. And while it annoys you; I’ll happily rub your little nose right in it.
Don’t come on insulting me and making assumptions about me or my life and expect me to sit back and read your utter guttershite and not respond when it’s practically at every opportunity you seem to think you have the right to. You don’t.
You continually cast aspersions and make up that you somehow know what I think and are happy to splay them for anyone to read. It’s pathetic in the extreme.
So whilst being a tolerant individual; I like anyone else eventually gets bored reading the same made up tripe day after day. It’s boring, tedious and wholly inaccurate.
So like that other safety; you can fwck right off an all and try now and again not to let me crowd your headspace.
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Hes completely lost it now.
Havent you got anything better to do all day everyday than come on here and fight battles with just about everybody on this thread whobsll thing you are smug Tory boy
Never seen Burghart before, fair play he's very good.
Rayner got ruined.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Maximus Decimus Meridius (U11781)
posted 6 minutes ago
Housing minister Matthew Pennycook tells MPs the govt's target to build 1.5m new homes over this parliament is “an incredibly stretching target" and would be “more difficult” to achieve than expected. But he says this is not just deliverable, but “essential”.
Deary me
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It’s a physical impossibility for many reasons. Anyone in construction will clarify that.
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If they fail and yet achieve 50% of their target, that's still an improvement on what's gone before and we need houses.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The indicators are that the actual build numbers will be behind last years.
Look, and additional and affordable housing is good in many aspects. Sadly the legislation and lack of money makes that an almost impossible task.
And it’s probably not worth my time or anyone else’s to point out that these numbers given out by the government were a stated objective in which they will again fail to meet.
That aside however. More house building and real infrastructure programmes are a massive box tick and might, just might save this party for the next election.
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Probably unfair to judge them on this year's build numbers given they weren't in power for the first 7 months and need time to implement the policy. I wouldn't even think of looking at annual numbers until next year.
Also, the whole idea of a stretch target is that if you fail to meet it, you still progress. If they improve the numbers year on year, that would still be a success in my opinion. Especially given the previous government failed to ever reach their target of 300,000 new homes per year.
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There are CPA analyses and the like to use as a guide
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Sure, but if I took over a 4-5 year project which had a huge stretch target; my first 6 months wouldn't be looking at producing immediate tangibles. It would be front loading the work that enables a ramp up to happen to meet the target i.e. policy, planning contracts etc.
If you only judge on tangibles in the first 6 months on a project of this scale, you are doomed to keep repeating the same failures that previous administrations have as you are just trying the same thing again.
If over next year there isn't quarterly improvement, then you can really start to question it, as nothing has changed.
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
Ginger why do you cry when people call you the worst kind of a smug lying tory tw@t... which you are, and moan that resorting to insults and swearing is losing the arguement...and then resort to throwing insults and telling people to eff off yourself to try and win your arguement.
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“smug lying tory tw@t” to be followed by me resorting to insults?
Did you really just type that? Amazing
You like others scream of rank jealousy and hypocrisy. You just don’t like and accept getting it back. It winds you up that your bizarre wishes of my pips being squeaked and being “made to pay” have turned into nothing. You are quite clearly very upset that my life and career has generally been one of sound and self made worth. That’s not a boast as you intimated the other day. It’s a fact. And while it annoys you; I’ll happily rub your little nose right in it.
Don’t come on insulting me and making assumptions about me or my life and expect me to sit back and read your utter guttershite and not respond when it’s practically at every opportunity you seem to think you have the right to. You don’t.
You continually cast aspersions and make up that you somehow know what I think and are happy to splay them for anyone to read. It’s pathetic in the extreme.
So whilst being a tolerant individual; I like anyone else eventually gets bored reading the same made up tripe day after day. It’s boring, tedious and wholly inaccurate.
So like that other safety; you can fwck right off an all and try now and again not to let me crowd your headspace.
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Hes completely lost it now.
Havent you got anything better to do all day everyday than come on here and fight battles with just about everybody on this thread whobsll thing you are smug Tory boy
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Oh just fwck off will you, you boring git. Live dishing it out but can’t take it back you absolute poosy
Your obsession with me is worrying. And it should worry you far more.
There are other more mature conversations going on which probably escape you.
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Maximus Decimus Meridius (U11781)
posted 6 minutes ago
Housing minister Matthew Pennycook tells MPs the govt's target to build 1.5m new homes over this parliament is “an incredibly stretching target" and would be “more difficult” to achieve than expected. But he says this is not just deliverable, but “essential”.
Deary me
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It’s a physical impossibility for many reasons. Anyone in construction will clarify that.
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If they fail and yet achieve 50% of their target, that's still an improvement on what's gone before and we need houses.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The indicators are that the actual build numbers will be behind last years.
Look, and additional and affordable housing is good in many aspects. Sadly the legislation and lack of money makes that an almost impossible task.
And it’s probably not worth my time or anyone else’s to point out that these numbers given out by the government were a stated objective in which they will again fail to meet.
That aside however. More house building and real infrastructure programmes are a massive box tick and might, just might save this party for the next election.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Probably unfair to judge them on this year's build numbers given they weren't in power for the first 7 months and need time to implement the policy. I wouldn't even think of looking at annual numbers until next year.
Also, the whole idea of a stretch target is that if you fail to meet it, you still progress. If they improve the numbers year on year, that would still be a success in my opinion. Especially given the previous government failed to ever reach their target of 300,000 new homes per year.
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There are CPA analyses and the like to use as a guide
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Sure, but if I took over a 4-5 year project which had a huge stretch target; my first 6 months wouldn't be looking at producing immediate tangibles. It would be front loading the work that enables a ramp up to happen to meet the target i.e. policy, planning contracts etc.
If you only judge on tangibles in the first 6 months on a project of this scale, you are doomed to keep repeating the same failures that previous administrations have as you are just trying the same thing again.
If over next year there isn't quarterly improvement, then you can really start to question it, as nothing has changed.
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Of course but you also I’m sure understand that 4-5 years in construction is quite a short time span.
With all the planning barriers in place, the lack of money and the nimby brigade I’d have thought serious work would be going on to pave the way in those respects.
Even after all that there just isn’t the number of tradespeople around these days. And mind that there is a prison build programme and a huge NHS and schools refurbishment focus as well. Then there’s already the day to day stuff which struggles already to find enough of a workforce.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
Ginger why do you cry when people call you the worst kind of a smug lying tory tw@t... which you are, and moan that resorting to insults and swearing is losing the arguement...and then resort to throwing insults and telling people to eff off yourself to try and win your arguement.
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“smug lying tory tw@t” to be followed by me resorting to insults?
Did you really just type that? Amazing
You like others scream of rank jealousy and hypocrisy. You just don’t like and accept getting it back. It winds you up that your bizarre wishes of my pips being squeaked and being “made to pay” have turned into nothing. You are quite clearly very upset that my life and career has generally been one of sound and self made worth. That’s not a boast as you intimated the other day. It’s a fact. And while it annoys you; I’ll happily rub your little nose right in it.
Don’t come on insulting me and making assumptions about me or my life and expect me to sit back and read your utter guttershite and not respond when it’s practically at every opportunity you seem to think you have the right to. You don’t.
You continually cast aspersions and make up that you somehow know what I think and are happy to splay them for anyone to read. It’s pathetic in the extreme.
So whilst being a tolerant individual; I like anyone else eventually gets bored reading the same made up tripe day after day. It’s boring, tedious and wholly inaccurate.
So like that other safety; you can fwck right off an all and try now and again not to let me crowd your headspace.
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Hes completely lost it now.
Havent you got anything better to do all day everyday than come on here and fight battles with just about everybody on this thread whobsll thing you are smug Tory boy
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Oh just fwck off will you, you boring git. Live dishing it out but can’t take it back you absolute poosy
Your obsession with me is worrying. And it should worry you far more.
There are other more mature conversations going on which probably escape you.
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Where... this is 606 you plank.
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
Ginger why do you cry when people call you the worst kind of a smug lying tory tw@t... which you are, and moan that resorting to insults and swearing is losing the arguement...and then resort to throwing insults and telling people to eff off yourself to try and win your arguement.
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“smug lying tory tw@t” to be followed by me resorting to insults?
Did you really just type that? Amazing
You like others scream of rank jealousy and hypocrisy. You just don’t like and accept getting it back. It winds you up that your bizarre wishes of my pips being squeaked and being “made to pay” have turned into nothing. You are quite clearly very upset that my life and career has generally been one of sound and self made worth. That’s not a boast as you intimated the other day. It’s a fact. And while it annoys you; I’ll happily rub your little nose right in it.
Don’t come on insulting me and making assumptions about me or my life and expect me to sit back and read your utter guttershite and not respond when it’s practically at every opportunity you seem to think you have the right to. You don’t.
You continually cast aspersions and make up that you somehow know what I think and are happy to splay them for anyone to read. It’s pathetic in the extreme.
So whilst being a tolerant individual; I like anyone else eventually gets bored reading the same made up tripe day after day. It’s boring, tedious and wholly inaccurate.
So like that other safety; you can fwck right off an all and try now and again not to let me crowd your headspace.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hes completely lost it now.
Havent you got anything better to do all day everyday than come on here and fight battles with just about everybody on this thread whobsll thing you are smug Tory boy
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh just fwck off will you, you boring git. Live dishing it out but can’t take it back you absolute poosy
Your obsession with me is worrying. And it should worry you far more.
There are other more mature conversations going on which probably escape you.
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Where... this is 606 you plank.
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As I said “escaped you”
Honestly
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 17 minutes ago
Never seen Burghart before, fair play he's very good.
Rayner got ruined.
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Heres a neutral response on the BBC website
Rayner unruffled as Burghart delivers strong performance
published at 12:26
12:26
Brian Wheeler
Political reporter
Well that got very shouty. Alex Burghart was going red in the face as he roared across the dispatch box at Angela Rayner “if you don’t vote Labour, they don’t care about you!”
The government always gets the last word in these exchanges and Rayner used it to deliver a lengthy diatribe on the “same old Tories".
The deputy PM appeared unruffled by her new adversary. But Burghart gave a good account of himself, speaking up for farmers - a subject close to Tory hearts.
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 17 minutes ago
Never seen Burghart before, fair play he's very good.
Rayner got ruined.
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Heres a neutral response on the BBC website
Rayner unruffled as Burghart delivers strong performance
published at 12:26
12:26
Brian Wheeler
Political reporter
Well that got very shouty. Alex Burghart was going red in the face as he roared across the dispatch box at Angela Rayner “if you don’t vote Labour, they don’t care about you!”
The government always gets the last word in these exchanges and Rayner used it to deliver a lengthy diatribe on the “same old Tories".
The deputy PM appeared unruffled by her new adversary. But Burghart gave a good account of himself, speaking up for farmers - a subject close to Tory hearts.
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Sounds familiar
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 17 minutes ago
Never seen Burghart before, fair play he's very good.
Rayner got ruined.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Heres a neutral response on the BBC website
Rayner unruffled as Burghart delivers strong performance
published at 12:26
12:26
Brian Wheeler
Political reporter
Well that got very shouty. Alex Burghart was going red in the face as he roared across the dispatch box at Angela Rayner “if you don’t vote Labour, they don’t care about you!”
The government always gets the last word in these exchanges and Rayner used it to deliver a lengthy diatribe on the “same old Tories".
The deputy PM appeared unruffled by her new adversary. But Burghart gave a good account of himself, speaking up for farmers - a subject close to Tory hearts.
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Neutral on the BBC, haha!!?
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 17 minutes ago
Never seen Burghart before, fair play he's very good.
Rayner got ruined.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Heres a neutral response on the BBC website
Rayner unruffled as Burghart delivers strong performance
published at 12:26
12:26
Brian Wheeler
Political reporter
Well that got very shouty. Alex Burghart was going red in the face as he roared across the dispatch box at Angela Rayner “if you don’t vote Labour, they don’t care about you!”
The government always gets the last word in these exchanges and Rayner used it to deliver a lengthy diatribe on the “same old Tories".
The deputy PM appeared unruffled by her new adversary. But Burghart gave a good account of himself, speaking up for farmers - a subject close to Tory hearts.
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Neutral on the BBC, haha!!?
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Aye with Laura K and Robbie Gibb it's very pro Tory but it's still the state broadcaster and at least pretends to be neutral
Please tell me you don't genuinely think the BBC is biased towards Labour
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 17 minutes ago
Never seen Burghart before, fair play he's very good.
Rayner got ruined.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Heres a neutral response on the BBC website
Rayner unruffled as Burghart delivers strong performance
published at 12:26
12:26
Brian Wheeler
Political reporter
Well that got very shouty. Alex Burghart was going red in the face as he roared across the dispatch box at Angela Rayner “if you don’t vote Labour, they don’t care about you!”
The government always gets the last word in these exchanges and Rayner used it to deliver a lengthy diatribe on the “same old Tories".
The deputy PM appeared unruffled by her new adversary. But Burghart gave a good account of himself, speaking up for farmers - a subject close to Tory hearts.
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Neutral on the BBC, haha!!?
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I’ve travelled the world and the seven seas and have yet to find a mainstream news network as neutral as the BBC. Once it’s gone you’ll miss it.
comment by Robben Amorim (U22716)
posted about a minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 17 minutes ago
Never seen Burghart before, fair play he's very good.
Rayner got ruined.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Heres a neutral response on the BBC website
Rayner unruffled as Burghart delivers strong performance
published at 12:26
12:26
Brian Wheeler
Political reporter
Well that got very shouty. Alex Burghart was going red in the face as he roared across the dispatch box at Angela Rayner “if you don’t vote Labour, they don’t care about you!”
The government always gets the last word in these exchanges and Rayner used it to deliver a lengthy diatribe on the “same old Tories".
The deputy PM appeared unruffled by her new adversary. But Burghart gave a good account of himself, speaking up for farmers - a subject close to Tory hearts.
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Neutral on the BBC, haha!!?
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I’ve travelled the world and the seven seas and have yet to find a mainstream news network as neutral as the BBC. Once it’s gone you’ll miss it.
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Very true
comment by Robben Amorim (U22716)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 17 minutes ago
Never seen Burghart before, fair play he's very good.
Rayner got ruined.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Heres a neutral response on the BBC website
Rayner unruffled as Burghart delivers strong performance
published at 12:26
12:26
Brian Wheeler
Political reporter
Well that got very shouty. Alex Burghart was going red in the face as he roared across the dispatch box at Angela Rayner “if you don’t vote Labour, they don’t care about you!”
The government always gets the last word in these exchanges and Rayner used it to deliver a lengthy diatribe on the “same old Tories".
The deputy PM appeared unruffled by her new adversary. But Burghart gave a good account of himself, speaking up for farmers - a subject close to Tory hearts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Neutral on the BBC, haha!!?
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I’ve travelled the world and the seven seas and have yet to find a mainstream news network as neutral as the BBC. Once it’s gone you’ll miss it.
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They couldn't have their tongue any further up Starmers rathole.
comment by Robben Amorim (U22716)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 17 minutes ago
Never seen Burghart before, fair play he's very good.
Rayner got ruined.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Heres a neutral response on the BBC website
Rayner unruffled as Burghart delivers strong performance
published at 12:26
12:26
Brian Wheeler
Political reporter
Well that got very shouty. Alex Burghart was going red in the face as he roared across the dispatch box at Angela Rayner “if you don’t vote Labour, they don’t care about you!”
The government always gets the last word in these exchanges and Rayner used it to deliver a lengthy diatribe on the “same old Tories".
The deputy PM appeared unruffled by her new adversary. But Burghart gave a good account of himself, speaking up for farmers - a subject close to Tory hearts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Neutral on the BBC, haha!!?
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I’ve travelled the world and the seven seas and have yet to find a mainstream news network as neutral as the BBC. Once it’s gone you’ll miss it.
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But do I say, ain't this the truth.
Why do you think the BBC and the licence keep coming under fire? There's many that would like to see the BBC finished. That goes for the NHS too.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robben Amorim (U22716)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 17 minutes ago
Never seen Burghart before, fair play he's very good.
Rayner got ruined.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Heres a neutral response on the BBC website
Rayner unruffled as Burghart delivers strong performance
published at 12:26
12:26
Brian Wheeler
Political reporter
Well that got very shouty. Alex Burghart was going red in the face as he roared across the dispatch box at Angela Rayner “if you don’t vote Labour, they don’t care about you!”
The government always gets the last word in these exchanges and Rayner used it to deliver a lengthy diatribe on the “same old Tories".
The deputy PM appeared unruffled by her new adversary. But Burghart gave a good account of himself, speaking up for farmers - a subject close to Tory hearts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Neutral on the BBC, haha!!?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’ve travelled the world and the seven seas and have yet to find a mainstream news network as neutral as the BBC. Once it’s gone you’ll miss it.
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They couldn't have their tongue any further up Starmers rathole.
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Do you just cherry pick the stories you read by them because they've been quite harsh on some aspects, especially their political correspondents.
Laura K goes without saying, and Chris Mason spent days trying to manufacture Sue Grey's pay into a massive scandal.
Right. I’ll leave you chaps to it. It’s been fun
Off for what should be a pleasant lunch and a pgreat b afternoon and evening. Beaujolais day tomorrow.
Or am I?
Pub afternoon and evening
I should have said
comment by Robben Amorim (U22716)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 17 minutes ago
Never seen Burghart before, fair play he's very good.
Rayner got ruined.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Heres a neutral response on the BBC website
Rayner unruffled as Burghart delivers strong performance
published at 12:26
12:26
Brian Wheeler
Political reporter
Well that got very shouty. Alex Burghart was going red in the face as he roared across the dispatch box at Angela Rayner “if you don’t vote Labour, they don’t care about you!”
The government always gets the last word in these exchanges and Rayner used it to deliver a lengthy diatribe on the “same old Tories".
The deputy PM appeared unruffled by her new adversary. But Burghart gave a good account of himself, speaking up for farmers - a subject close to Tory hearts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Neutral on the BBC, haha!!?
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I’ve travelled the world and the seven seas and have yet to find a mainstream news network as neutral as the BBC. Once it’s gone you’ll miss it.
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Ever since I can remember lefties have claimed the BBC was a mouthpiece for the Tory government, now all of sudden they’re neutral 😂
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comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Maximus Decimus Meridius (U11781)
posted 6 minutes ago
Housing minister Matthew Pennycook tells MPs the govt's target to build 1.5m new homes over this parliament is “an incredibly stretching target" and would be “more difficult” to achieve than expected. But he says this is not just deliverable, but “essential”.
Deary me
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It’s a physical impossibility for many reasons. Anyone in construction will clarify that.
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If they fail and yet achieve 50% of their target, that's still an improvement on what's gone before and we need houses.
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The indicators are that the actual build numbers will be behind last years.
Look, and additional and affordable housing is good in many aspects. Sadly the legislation and lack of money makes that an almost impossible task.
And it’s probably not worth my time or anyone else’s to point out that these numbers given out by the government were a stated objective in which they will again fail to meet.
That aside however. More house building and real infrastructure programmes are a massive box tick and might, just might save this party for the next election.
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"Last years" isn't the plan I believe, it's a full term target.
To achieve what they're aiming for will need the promised overhaul of planning and land banking.
We're not allowed to talk about why there isn't any money.
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You’re allowed Hector
A major part of the problem is the notion of house builders providing “affordable housing”. They don’t. They make a payment to the local authority who then spend the money elsewhere.
And then there’s the legislation, lack of trades and lack of building materials. We just don’t have the capacity.
Cue Hovis advert
posted on 20/11/24
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Maximus Decimus Meridius (U11781)
posted 6 minutes ago
Housing minister Matthew Pennycook tells MPs the govt's target to build 1.5m new homes over this parliament is “an incredibly stretching target" and would be “more difficult” to achieve than expected. But he says this is not just deliverable, but “essential”.
Deary me
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It’s a physical impossibility for many reasons. Anyone in construction will clarify that.
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If they fail and yet achieve 50% of their target, that's still an improvement on what's gone before and we need houses.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The indicators are that the actual build numbers will be behind last years.
Look, and additional and affordable housing is good in many aspects. Sadly the legislation and lack of money makes that an almost impossible task.
And it’s probably not worth my time or anyone else’s to point out that these numbers given out by the government were a stated objective in which they will again fail to meet.
That aside however. More house building and real infrastructure programmes are a massive box tick and might, just might save this party for the next election.
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Probably unfair to judge them on this year's build numbers given they weren't in power for the first 7 months and need time to implement the policy. I wouldn't even think of looking at annual numbers until next year.
Also, the whole idea of a stretch target is that if you fail to meet it, you still progress. If they improve the numbers year on year, that would still be a success in my opinion. Especially given the previous government failed to ever reach their target of 300,000 new homes per year.
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There are CPA analyses and the like to use as a guide
posted on 20/11/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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The indicators are that the actual build numbers will be behind last years.
Look, and additional and affordable housing is good in many aspects. Sadly the legislation and lack of money makes that an almost impossible task.
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They are trying to get shareholder owned house builders to build highly energy efficient affordable homes. Almost impossible.
Can't just allow people to chuck up some prefabs can they. That would be far too practical.
posted on 20/11/24
Who the fack is this mug on the Tory bench
posted on 20/11/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
Ginger why do you cry when people call you the worst kind of a smug lying tory tw@t... which you are, and moan that resorting to insults and swearing is losing the arguement...and then resort to throwing insults and telling people to eff off yourself to try and win your arguement.
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“smug lying tory tw@t” to be followed by me resorting to insults?
Did you really just type that? Amazing
You like others scream of rank jealousy and hypocrisy. You just don’t like and accept getting it back. It winds you up that your bizarre wishes of my pips being squeaked and being “made to pay” have turned into nothing. You are quite clearly very upset that my life and career has generally been one of sound and self made worth. That’s not a boast as you intimated the other day. It’s a fact. And while it annoys you; I’ll happily rub your little nose right in it.
Don’t come on insulting me and making assumptions about me or my life and expect me to sit back and read your utter guttershite and not respond when it’s practically at every opportunity you seem to think you have the right to. You don’t.
You continually cast aspersions and make up that you somehow know what I think and are happy to splay them for anyone to read. It’s pathetic in the extreme.
So whilst being a tolerant individual; I like anyone else eventually gets bored reading the same made up tripe day after day. It’s boring, tedious and wholly inaccurate.
So like that other safety; you can fwck right off an all and try now and again not to let me crowd your headspace.
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Hes completely lost it now.
Havent you got anything better to do all day everyday than come on here and fight battles with just about everybody on this thread whobsll thing you are smug Tory boy
posted on 20/11/24
Never seen Burghart before, fair play he's very good.
Rayner got ruined.
posted on 20/11/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Maximus Decimus Meridius (U11781)
posted 6 minutes ago
Housing minister Matthew Pennycook tells MPs the govt's target to build 1.5m new homes over this parliament is “an incredibly stretching target" and would be “more difficult” to achieve than expected. But he says this is not just deliverable, but “essential”.
Deary me
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It’s a physical impossibility for many reasons. Anyone in construction will clarify that.
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If they fail and yet achieve 50% of their target, that's still an improvement on what's gone before and we need houses.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The indicators are that the actual build numbers will be behind last years.
Look, and additional and affordable housing is good in many aspects. Sadly the legislation and lack of money makes that an almost impossible task.
And it’s probably not worth my time or anyone else’s to point out that these numbers given out by the government were a stated objective in which they will again fail to meet.
That aside however. More house building and real infrastructure programmes are a massive box tick and might, just might save this party for the next election.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Probably unfair to judge them on this year's build numbers given they weren't in power for the first 7 months and need time to implement the policy. I wouldn't even think of looking at annual numbers until next year.
Also, the whole idea of a stretch target is that if you fail to meet it, you still progress. If they improve the numbers year on year, that would still be a success in my opinion. Especially given the previous government failed to ever reach their target of 300,000 new homes per year.
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There are CPA analyses and the like to use as a guide
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Sure, but if I took over a 4-5 year project which had a huge stretch target; my first 6 months wouldn't be looking at producing immediate tangibles. It would be front loading the work that enables a ramp up to happen to meet the target i.e. policy, planning contracts etc.
If you only judge on tangibles in the first 6 months on a project of this scale, you are doomed to keep repeating the same failures that previous administrations have as you are just trying the same thing again.
If over next year there isn't quarterly improvement, then you can really start to question it, as nothing has changed.
posted on 20/11/24
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
Ginger why do you cry when people call you the worst kind of a smug lying tory tw@t... which you are, and moan that resorting to insults and swearing is losing the arguement...and then resort to throwing insults and telling people to eff off yourself to try and win your arguement.
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“smug lying tory tw@t” to be followed by me resorting to insults?
Did you really just type that? Amazing
You like others scream of rank jealousy and hypocrisy. You just don’t like and accept getting it back. It winds you up that your bizarre wishes of my pips being squeaked and being “made to pay” have turned into nothing. You are quite clearly very upset that my life and career has generally been one of sound and self made worth. That’s not a boast as you intimated the other day. It’s a fact. And while it annoys you; I’ll happily rub your little nose right in it.
Don’t come on insulting me and making assumptions about me or my life and expect me to sit back and read your utter guttershite and not respond when it’s practically at every opportunity you seem to think you have the right to. You don’t.
You continually cast aspersions and make up that you somehow know what I think and are happy to splay them for anyone to read. It’s pathetic in the extreme.
So whilst being a tolerant individual; I like anyone else eventually gets bored reading the same made up tripe day after day. It’s boring, tedious and wholly inaccurate.
So like that other safety; you can fwck right off an all and try now and again not to let me crowd your headspace.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hes completely lost it now.
Havent you got anything better to do all day everyday than come on here and fight battles with just about everybody on this thread whobsll thing you are smug Tory boy
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh just fwck off will you, you boring git. Live dishing it out but can’t take it back you absolute poosy
Your obsession with me is worrying. And it should worry you far more.
There are other more mature conversations going on which probably escape you.
posted on 20/11/24
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Maximus Decimus Meridius (U11781)
posted 6 minutes ago
Housing minister Matthew Pennycook tells MPs the govt's target to build 1.5m new homes over this parliament is “an incredibly stretching target" and would be “more difficult” to achieve than expected. But he says this is not just deliverable, but “essential”.
Deary me
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It’s a physical impossibility for many reasons. Anyone in construction will clarify that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If they fail and yet achieve 50% of their target, that's still an improvement on what's gone before and we need houses.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The indicators are that the actual build numbers will be behind last years.
Look, and additional and affordable housing is good in many aspects. Sadly the legislation and lack of money makes that an almost impossible task.
And it’s probably not worth my time or anyone else’s to point out that these numbers given out by the government were a stated objective in which they will again fail to meet.
That aside however. More house building and real infrastructure programmes are a massive box tick and might, just might save this party for the next election.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Probably unfair to judge them on this year's build numbers given they weren't in power for the first 7 months and need time to implement the policy. I wouldn't even think of looking at annual numbers until next year.
Also, the whole idea of a stretch target is that if you fail to meet it, you still progress. If they improve the numbers year on year, that would still be a success in my opinion. Especially given the previous government failed to ever reach their target of 300,000 new homes per year.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There are CPA analyses and the like to use as a guide
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sure, but if I took over a 4-5 year project which had a huge stretch target; my first 6 months wouldn't be looking at producing immediate tangibles. It would be front loading the work that enables a ramp up to happen to meet the target i.e. policy, planning contracts etc.
If you only judge on tangibles in the first 6 months on a project of this scale, you are doomed to keep repeating the same failures that previous administrations have as you are just trying the same thing again.
If over next year there isn't quarterly improvement, then you can really start to question it, as nothing has changed.
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Of course but you also I’m sure understand that 4-5 years in construction is quite a short time span.
With all the planning barriers in place, the lack of money and the nimby brigade I’d have thought serious work would be going on to pave the way in those respects.
Even after all that there just isn’t the number of tradespeople around these days. And mind that there is a prison build programme and a huge NHS and schools refurbishment focus as well. Then there’s already the day to day stuff which struggles already to find enough of a workforce.
posted on 20/11/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
Ginger why do you cry when people call you the worst kind of a smug lying tory tw@t... which you are, and moan that resorting to insults and swearing is losing the arguement...and then resort to throwing insults and telling people to eff off yourself to try and win your arguement.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
“smug lying tory tw@t” to be followed by me resorting to insults?
Did you really just type that? Amazing
You like others scream of rank jealousy and hypocrisy. You just don’t like and accept getting it back. It winds you up that your bizarre wishes of my pips being squeaked and being “made to pay” have turned into nothing. You are quite clearly very upset that my life and career has generally been one of sound and self made worth. That’s not a boast as you intimated the other day. It’s a fact. And while it annoys you; I’ll happily rub your little nose right in it.
Don’t come on insulting me and making assumptions about me or my life and expect me to sit back and read your utter guttershite and not respond when it’s practically at every opportunity you seem to think you have the right to. You don’t.
You continually cast aspersions and make up that you somehow know what I think and are happy to splay them for anyone to read. It’s pathetic in the extreme.
So whilst being a tolerant individual; I like anyone else eventually gets bored reading the same made up tripe day after day. It’s boring, tedious and wholly inaccurate.
So like that other safety; you can fwck right off an all and try now and again not to let me crowd your headspace.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hes completely lost it now.
Havent you got anything better to do all day everyday than come on here and fight battles with just about everybody on this thread whobsll thing you are smug Tory boy
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh just fwck off will you, you boring git. Live dishing it out but can’t take it back you absolute poosy
Your obsession with me is worrying. And it should worry you far more.
There are other more mature conversations going on which probably escape you.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where... this is 606 you plank.
posted on 20/11/24
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
Ginger why do you cry when people call you the worst kind of a smug lying tory tw@t... which you are, and moan that resorting to insults and swearing is losing the arguement...and then resort to throwing insults and telling people to eff off yourself to try and win your arguement.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
“smug lying tory tw@t” to be followed by me resorting to insults?
Did you really just type that? Amazing
You like others scream of rank jealousy and hypocrisy. You just don’t like and accept getting it back. It winds you up that your bizarre wishes of my pips being squeaked and being “made to pay” have turned into nothing. You are quite clearly very upset that my life and career has generally been one of sound and self made worth. That’s not a boast as you intimated the other day. It’s a fact. And while it annoys you; I’ll happily rub your little nose right in it.
Don’t come on insulting me and making assumptions about me or my life and expect me to sit back and read your utter guttershite and not respond when it’s practically at every opportunity you seem to think you have the right to. You don’t.
You continually cast aspersions and make up that you somehow know what I think and are happy to splay them for anyone to read. It’s pathetic in the extreme.
So whilst being a tolerant individual; I like anyone else eventually gets bored reading the same made up tripe day after day. It’s boring, tedious and wholly inaccurate.
So like that other safety; you can fwck right off an all and try now and again not to let me crowd your headspace.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hes completely lost it now.
Havent you got anything better to do all day everyday than come on here and fight battles with just about everybody on this thread whobsll thing you are smug Tory boy
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh just fwck off will you, you boring git. Live dishing it out but can’t take it back you absolute poosy
Your obsession with me is worrying. And it should worry you far more.
There are other more mature conversations going on which probably escape you.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where... this is 606 you plank.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As I said “escaped you”
Honestly
posted on 20/11/24
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 17 minutes ago
Never seen Burghart before, fair play he's very good.
Rayner got ruined.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Heres a neutral response on the BBC website
Rayner unruffled as Burghart delivers strong performance
published at 12:26
12:26
Brian Wheeler
Political reporter
Well that got very shouty. Alex Burghart was going red in the face as he roared across the dispatch box at Angela Rayner “if you don’t vote Labour, they don’t care about you!”
The government always gets the last word in these exchanges and Rayner used it to deliver a lengthy diatribe on the “same old Tories".
The deputy PM appeared unruffled by her new adversary. But Burghart gave a good account of himself, speaking up for farmers - a subject close to Tory hearts.
posted on 20/11/24
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 17 minutes ago
Never seen Burghart before, fair play he's very good.
Rayner got ruined.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Heres a neutral response on the BBC website
Rayner unruffled as Burghart delivers strong performance
published at 12:26
12:26
Brian Wheeler
Political reporter
Well that got very shouty. Alex Burghart was going red in the face as he roared across the dispatch box at Angela Rayner “if you don’t vote Labour, they don’t care about you!”
The government always gets the last word in these exchanges and Rayner used it to deliver a lengthy diatribe on the “same old Tories".
The deputy PM appeared unruffled by her new adversary. But Burghart gave a good account of himself, speaking up for farmers - a subject close to Tory hearts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sounds familiar
posted on 20/11/24
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 17 minutes ago
Never seen Burghart before, fair play he's very good.
Rayner got ruined.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Heres a neutral response on the BBC website
Rayner unruffled as Burghart delivers strong performance
published at 12:26
12:26
Brian Wheeler
Political reporter
Well that got very shouty. Alex Burghart was going red in the face as he roared across the dispatch box at Angela Rayner “if you don’t vote Labour, they don’t care about you!”
The government always gets the last word in these exchanges and Rayner used it to deliver a lengthy diatribe on the “same old Tories".
The deputy PM appeared unruffled by her new adversary. But Burghart gave a good account of himself, speaking up for farmers - a subject close to Tory hearts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Neutral on the BBC, haha!!?
posted on 20/11/24
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 17 minutes ago
Never seen Burghart before, fair play he's very good.
Rayner got ruined.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Heres a neutral response on the BBC website
Rayner unruffled as Burghart delivers strong performance
published at 12:26
12:26
Brian Wheeler
Political reporter
Well that got very shouty. Alex Burghart was going red in the face as he roared across the dispatch box at Angela Rayner “if you don’t vote Labour, they don’t care about you!”
The government always gets the last word in these exchanges and Rayner used it to deliver a lengthy diatribe on the “same old Tories".
The deputy PM appeared unruffled by her new adversary. But Burghart gave a good account of himself, speaking up for farmers - a subject close to Tory hearts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Neutral on the BBC, haha!!?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Aye with Laura K and Robbie Gibb it's very pro Tory but it's still the state broadcaster and at least pretends to be neutral
posted on 20/11/24
Please tell me you don't genuinely think the BBC is biased towards Labour
posted on 20/11/24
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 17 minutes ago
Never seen Burghart before, fair play he's very good.
Rayner got ruined.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Heres a neutral response on the BBC website
Rayner unruffled as Burghart delivers strong performance
published at 12:26
12:26
Brian Wheeler
Political reporter
Well that got very shouty. Alex Burghart was going red in the face as he roared across the dispatch box at Angela Rayner “if you don’t vote Labour, they don’t care about you!”
The government always gets the last word in these exchanges and Rayner used it to deliver a lengthy diatribe on the “same old Tories".
The deputy PM appeared unruffled by her new adversary. But Burghart gave a good account of himself, speaking up for farmers - a subject close to Tory hearts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Neutral on the BBC, haha!!?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’ve travelled the world and the seven seas and have yet to find a mainstream news network as neutral as the BBC. Once it’s gone you’ll miss it.
posted on 20/11/24
comment by Robben Amorim (U22716)
posted about a minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 17 minutes ago
Never seen Burghart before, fair play he's very good.
Rayner got ruined.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Heres a neutral response on the BBC website
Rayner unruffled as Burghart delivers strong performance
published at 12:26
12:26
Brian Wheeler
Political reporter
Well that got very shouty. Alex Burghart was going red in the face as he roared across the dispatch box at Angela Rayner “if you don’t vote Labour, they don’t care about you!”
The government always gets the last word in these exchanges and Rayner used it to deliver a lengthy diatribe on the “same old Tories".
The deputy PM appeared unruffled by her new adversary. But Burghart gave a good account of himself, speaking up for farmers - a subject close to Tory hearts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Neutral on the BBC, haha!!?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’ve travelled the world and the seven seas and have yet to find a mainstream news network as neutral as the BBC. Once it’s gone you’ll miss it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Very true
posted on 20/11/24
comment by Robben Amorim (U22716)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 17 minutes ago
Never seen Burghart before, fair play he's very good.
Rayner got ruined.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Heres a neutral response on the BBC website
Rayner unruffled as Burghart delivers strong performance
published at 12:26
12:26
Brian Wheeler
Political reporter
Well that got very shouty. Alex Burghart was going red in the face as he roared across the dispatch box at Angela Rayner “if you don’t vote Labour, they don’t care about you!”
The government always gets the last word in these exchanges and Rayner used it to deliver a lengthy diatribe on the “same old Tories".
The deputy PM appeared unruffled by her new adversary. But Burghart gave a good account of himself, speaking up for farmers - a subject close to Tory hearts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Neutral on the BBC, haha!!?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’ve travelled the world and the seven seas and have yet to find a mainstream news network as neutral as the BBC. Once it’s gone you’ll miss it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They couldn't have their tongue any further up Starmers rathole.
posted on 20/11/24
comment by Robben Amorim (U22716)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 17 minutes ago
Never seen Burghart before, fair play he's very good.
Rayner got ruined.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Heres a neutral response on the BBC website
Rayner unruffled as Burghart delivers strong performance
published at 12:26
12:26
Brian Wheeler
Political reporter
Well that got very shouty. Alex Burghart was going red in the face as he roared across the dispatch box at Angela Rayner “if you don’t vote Labour, they don’t care about you!”
The government always gets the last word in these exchanges and Rayner used it to deliver a lengthy diatribe on the “same old Tories".
The deputy PM appeared unruffled by her new adversary. But Burghart gave a good account of himself, speaking up for farmers - a subject close to Tory hearts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Neutral on the BBC, haha!!?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’ve travelled the world and the seven seas and have yet to find a mainstream news network as neutral as the BBC. Once it’s gone you’ll miss it.
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But do I say, ain't this the truth.
posted on 20/11/24
Why do you think the BBC and the licence keep coming under fire? There's many that would like to see the BBC finished. That goes for the NHS too.
posted on 20/11/24
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robben Amorim (U22716)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 17 minutes ago
Never seen Burghart before, fair play he's very good.
Rayner got ruined.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Heres a neutral response on the BBC website
Rayner unruffled as Burghart delivers strong performance
published at 12:26
12:26
Brian Wheeler
Political reporter
Well that got very shouty. Alex Burghart was going red in the face as he roared across the dispatch box at Angela Rayner “if you don’t vote Labour, they don’t care about you!”
The government always gets the last word in these exchanges and Rayner used it to deliver a lengthy diatribe on the “same old Tories".
The deputy PM appeared unruffled by her new adversary. But Burghart gave a good account of himself, speaking up for farmers - a subject close to Tory hearts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Neutral on the BBC, haha!!?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’ve travelled the world and the seven seas and have yet to find a mainstream news network as neutral as the BBC. Once it’s gone you’ll miss it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They couldn't have their tongue any further up Starmers rathole.
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Do you just cherry pick the stories you read by them because they've been quite harsh on some aspects, especially their political correspondents.
Laura K goes without saying, and Chris Mason spent days trying to manufacture Sue Grey's pay into a massive scandal.
posted on 20/11/24
Right. I’ll leave you chaps to it. It’s been fun
Off for what should be a pleasant lunch and a pgreat b afternoon and evening. Beaujolais day tomorrow.
Or am I?
posted on 20/11/24
Pub afternoon and evening
I should have said
posted on 20/11/24
comment by Robben Amorim (U22716)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 17 minutes ago
Never seen Burghart before, fair play he's very good.
Rayner got ruined.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Heres a neutral response on the BBC website
Rayner unruffled as Burghart delivers strong performance
published at 12:26
12:26
Brian Wheeler
Political reporter
Well that got very shouty. Alex Burghart was going red in the face as he roared across the dispatch box at Angela Rayner “if you don’t vote Labour, they don’t care about you!”
The government always gets the last word in these exchanges and Rayner used it to deliver a lengthy diatribe on the “same old Tories".
The deputy PM appeared unruffled by her new adversary. But Burghart gave a good account of himself, speaking up for farmers - a subject close to Tory hearts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Neutral on the BBC, haha!!?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’ve travelled the world and the seven seas and have yet to find a mainstream news network as neutral as the BBC. Once it’s gone you’ll miss it.
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Ever since I can remember lefties have claimed the BBC was a mouthpiece for the Tory government, now all of sudden they’re neutral 😂
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