https://caliber.az/en/post/president-assad-arrives-in-moscow-amid-rising-tensions-in-syria

Inevitably she's done the right thing in resigning.

Multiple accusations of her work phones being stolen or lost resulting in a criminal prosecution can't be dressed up as some "mistake" no matter how she tries.

I get the feeling there's something more in this. Maybe wanting WhatsApp messages to disappear. Maybe that's just my cynical mind though

I was being sensationalist with the word ‘flee’ but hopefully the rebels can take the country at some point and give him the Gaddafi treatment

So it looks like hybrid vehicles will be allowed to be sold up until 2030 which is a significant pull back on the nett zero targets. And supposedly those who self generate charge are to be included as well.

How on earth can manufacturers plan and invest with this continual rule changing?

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 9 minutes ago
Inevitably she's done the right thing in resigning.

Multiple accusations of her work phones being stolen or lost resulting in a criminal prosecution can't be dressed up as some "mistake" no matter how she tries.

I get the feeling there's something more in this. Maybe wanting WhatsApp messages to disappear. Maybe that's just my cynical mind though
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Apparently she was getting nobbed by Nick Knowles a few years back which is far more of a worry and should have ensured she never had a Cabinet position.

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comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
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comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 9 minutes ago
Disagree massively

People have a right to a past should be afforded the opportunity to attone and turn their lives around

Blocking criminals (especially petty crime) from certain things in life is counter productive to rehabilitation and a safer society as you essentially create a situation where they're pushed further away from normal life

It should be up to the the local party and then the electorate whether they want someone with a conviction in office
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I agree people should be entitled to a second chance if they atone and come clean, but if the Sky News report is to be believed, it's hard to say she's atoned when she still isn't telling the straight up truth ten years later.

If this was your own company, do you think you'd trust someone who's still lying about past instances of fraud to be overseeing multi-million pound contracts?


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If she did it now as a minister then no but you're taking a sky news report on three unnamed sources who seem to have the perfect memory of something that happened over a decade ago

It's right that she resigned and showed the integrity now that she may have failed to do so in her early 20s but I'm really not going to judge her for this or say she's unfit for office as a result

It however should have been more publicly declared once Starmer knew
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To be fair, I am, yes. But that's largely because we're so used to the political class grifting and embezzling public funds, that I find those anonymous claims far easier to believe than Haigh's.

And I don't think you'd forget that easily if, as in this case, someone you knew - a work colleague, for example - had been sacked for making false police claims just to get herself a new phone and only a few months later had been elected to Parliament. I reckon something like that would be pretty much burned onto my brain.

Ftr, I'm resolutely left-wing, though if I were in the UK I'd probably prefer to throw away my vote on the Green Party or some other actual left-wing option rather than give it to anyone in the institutionalised Westminster mob.

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 7 minutes ago
So it looks like hybrid vehicles will be allowed to be sold up until 2030 which is a significant pull back on the nett zero targets. And supposedly those who self generate charge are to be included as well.

How on earth can manufacturers plan and invest with this continual rule changing?
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The hybrid ban is ridiculous.

At a time when most agree that the charging infrastructure is found to be wanting surely vehicles that generate their own electric are to be encouraged?

If you lived in the UK you'd see that the Greens here are a mix of unserious performers and Tory NIMBYS

I get what you're saying about Westminster but in lieu of a revolution we need to keep nudging leftward until we can bring about electoral reform

Labour are obviously more leftwing that the Tories and this resignation (while bad and embarrassing) is still an example of them having more integrity than we saw from the previous govt

comment by Robben Amorim (U22716)
posted 15 minutes ago
I was being sensationalist with the word ‘flee’ but hopefully the rebels can take the country at some point and give him the Gaddafi treatment
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Not these rebels. They're Islamic Jihadists, if I'm not mistaken.

I wonder if it's merely a stroke of luck that they're advancing on areas with a strong Hezbollah presence.

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Robben Amorim (U22716)
posted 15 minutes ago
I was being sensationalist with the word ‘flee’ but hopefully the rebels can take the country at some point and give him the Gaddafi treatment
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Not these rebels. They're Islamic Jihadists, if I'm not mistaken.

I wonder if it's merely a stroke of luck that they're advancing on areas with a strong Hezbollah presence.
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👍

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 9 minutes ago
Inevitably she's done the right thing in resigning.

Multiple accusations of her work phones being stolen or lost resulting in a criminal prosecution can't be dressed up as some "mistake" no matter how she tries.

I get the feeling there's something more in this. Maybe wanting WhatsApp messages to disappear. Maybe that's just my cynical mind though
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Apparently she was getting nobbed by Nick Knowles a few years back which is far more of a worry and should have ensured she never had a Cabinet position.
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Not that it matter’s but the way the dresses

I think she’s been taking wardrobe advice from chavy Rayner.

Syria has been one facked up country since Assad’s dad died

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comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 9 minutes ago
Inevitably she's done the right thing in resigning.

Multiple accusations of her work phones being stolen or lost resulting in a criminal prosecution can't be dressed up as some "mistake" no matter how she tries.

I get the feeling there's something more in this. Maybe wanting WhatsApp messages to disappear. Maybe that's just my cynical mind though
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Apparently she was getting nobbed by Nick Knowles a few years back which is far more of a worry and should have ensured she never had a Cabinet position.
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Not that it matter’s but the way the dresses

I think she’s been taking wardrobe advice from chavy Rayner.
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How is Rayner a chaav?

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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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Inevitably she's done the right thing in resigning.

Multiple accusations of her work phones being stolen or lost resulting in a criminal prosecution can't be dressed up as some "mistake" no matter how she tries.

I get the feeling there's something more in this. Maybe wanting WhatsApp messages to disappear. Maybe that's just my cynical mind though
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Apparently she was getting nobbed by Nick Knowles a few years back which is far more of a worry and should have ensured she never had a Cabinet position.
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Not that it matter’s but the way the dresses

I think she’s been taking wardrobe advice from chavy Rayner.
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Leave angie alone

Angie

@CEG, they're clearly the lesser of two evils, but we've seen very recently what happens if the party shifts 'too far' to the left.

For the 'nudging' you speak of to ever succeed, it would require shifts to take place over successive Labour leadership groups, and imo Labour's too strongly influenced by corporate power, institutional power, and the fourth estate for that to happen.

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 9 minutes ago
If you lived in the UK you'd see that the Greens here are a mix of unserious performers and Tory NIMBYS

I get what you're saying about Westminster but in lieu of a revolution we need to keep nudging leftward until we can bring about electoral reform

Labour are obviously more leftwing that the Tories and this resignation (while bad and embarrassing) is still an example of them having more integrity than we saw from the previous govt
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comment by Maximus Decimus Meridius (U11781)
posted 2 hours, 51 minutes ago
The Tory spokesman added: “Louise Haigh has done the right thing in resigning. It is clear she has failed to behave to the standards expected of an MP.”

Oh my facking god
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Labour should put out a response asking when every single Tory mp is going to resign.

Considering the current Tory leader once hacked an MP's computer which is liable for prosecution under the computer misuse act, you'd think they'd be quiet.

Rules for thee but not for me is the Tory mantra.

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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 9 minutes ago
Inevitably she's done the right thing in resigning.

Multiple accusations of her work phones being stolen or lost resulting in a criminal prosecution can't be dressed up as some "mistake" no matter how she tries.

I get the feeling there's something more in this. Maybe wanting WhatsApp messages to disappear. Maybe that's just my cynical mind though
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Apparently she was getting nobbed by Nick Knowles a few years back which is far more of a worry and should have ensured she never had a Cabinet position.
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Not that it matter’s but the way the dresses

I think she’s been taking wardrobe advice from chavy Rayner.
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Leave angie alone

Angie
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Can’t stand her politics but absolutely yes

comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 20 minutes ago
Rules for thee but not for me is the Tory mantra.
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I think that was starting to turn the other way for a while to be honest.

Seems as though a few erm, loopholes are being closed now at least as things are uncovered.

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by Pranky 23/24 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
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comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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Inevitably she's done the right thing in resigning.

Multiple accusations of her work phones being stolen or lost resulting in a criminal prosecution can't be dressed up as some "mistake" no matter how she tries.

I get the feeling there's something more in this. Maybe wanting WhatsApp messages to disappear. Maybe that's just my cynical mind though
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Apparently she was getting nobbed by Nick Knowles a few years back which is far more of a worry and should have ensured she never had a Cabinet position.
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Not that it matter’s but the way the dresses

I think she’s been taking wardrobe advice from chavy Rayner.
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Leave angie alone

Angie
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Can’t stand her politics but absolutely yes


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Labour’s version of Katie Price

comment by Maximus Decimus Meridius (U11781)
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 9 minutes ago
Inevitably she's done the right thing in resigning.

Multiple accusations of her work phones being stolen or lost resulting in a criminal prosecution can't be dressed up as some "mistake" no matter how she tries.

I get the feeling there's something more in this. Maybe wanting WhatsApp messages to disappear. Maybe that's just my cynical mind though
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Apparently she was getting nobbed by Nick Knowles a few years back which is far more of a worry and should have ensured she never had a Cabinet position.
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Not that it matter’s but the way the dresses

I think she’s been taking wardrobe advice from chavy Rayner.
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How is Rayner a chaav?
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its a fair question.

comment by Pranky 23/24 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 58 minutes ago
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comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 9 minutes ago
Inevitably she's done the right thing in resigning.

Multiple accusations of her work phones being stolen or lost resulting in a criminal prosecution can't be dressed up as some "mistake" no matter how she tries.

I get the feeling there's something more in this. Maybe wanting WhatsApp messages to disappear. Maybe that's just my cynical mind though
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Apparently she was getting nobbed by Nick Knowles a few years back which is far more of a worry and should have ensured she never had a Cabinet position.
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Not that it matter’s but the way the dresses

I think she’s been taking wardrobe advice from chavy Rayner.
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Leave angie alone

Angie
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Can’t stand her politics but absolutely yes


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Labour’s version of Katie Price
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Not surprised this Tory redneck is resorting to stereotypes about a working class woman.

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comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 58 minutes ago
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 9 minutes ago
Inevitably she's done the right thing in resigning.

Multiple accusations of her work phones being stolen or lost resulting in a criminal prosecution can't be dressed up as some "mistake" no matter how she tries.

I get the feeling there's something more in this. Maybe wanting WhatsApp messages to disappear. Maybe that's just my cynical mind though
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Apparently she was getting nobbed by Nick Knowles a few years back which is far more of a worry and should have ensured she never had a Cabinet position.
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Not that it matter’s but the way the dresses

I think she’s been taking wardrobe advice from chavy Rayner.
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Leave angie alone

Angie
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Can’t stand her politics but absolutely yes


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Labour’s version of Katie Price
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Not surprised this Tory redneck is resorting to stereotypes about a working class woman.
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Please don’t lecture anyone ever about using stereotypes when you do it all the time😆