posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted about a minute ago
So according to a Yougov poll 76% of the UK population want a new inquiry into grooming gangs.
Not one Labour mp vored for this (bunch of cants) and I hope their constituents give them hell.
Starmer and Reeve are toast, hopeless hypocritical lying rseholes.
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They voted against an amendment to a safeguarding bill to ensure the safeguarding bill passes. If they had voted for the amendment it would have held up implementing the recommendations that were present in the previous inquiry.
If Reform and the Tories actually wanted a new inquiry, they could have proposed this outside of that bill and not prevented a safeguarding bill from passing. What they did was pure political opportunism with no regard for the issue they are pretending to care about.
Following this vote on the 9th January there was a debate on violence against women and girls. No one Reform MP turned up to the debate, despite claiming to care about these issues and wanting an inquiry.
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Exactly the response given by the Labour Party
You know that there is nothing preventing Starmer from authorising an inquiry right now of course.
Call it politics all anyone likes but there absolutely should be a full national enquiry.
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I agree there's nothing stopping him but that bill amendment was dumb way to go about it and you know it. Would have literally killed the safeguarding bill.
It got the intended effect however.
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Exactly. It was a political move and was designed for one reason in the full knowledge that the bill wouldn’t be stopped.
It worked. Politicians being political eh?
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted about a minute ago
So according to a Yougov poll 76% of the UK population want a new inquiry into grooming gangs.
Not one Labour mp vored for this (bunch of cants) and I hope their constituents give them hell.
Starmer and Reeve are toast, hopeless hypocritical lying rseholes.
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They voted against an amendment to a safeguarding bill to ensure the safeguarding bill passes. If they had voted for the amendment it would have held up implementing the recommendations that were present in the previous inquiry.
If Reform and the Tories actually wanted a new inquiry, they could have proposed this outside of that bill and not prevented a safeguarding bill from passing. What they did was pure political opportunism with no regard for the issue they are pretending to care about.
Following this vote on the 9th January there was a debate on violence against women and girls. No one Reform MP turned up to the debate, despite claiming to care about these issues and wanting an inquiry.
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Exactly the response given by the Labour Party
You know that there is nothing preventing Starmer from authorising an inquiry right now of course.
Call it politics all anyone likes but there absolutely should be a full national enquiry.
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I agree there's nothing stopping him but that bill amendment was dumb way to go about it and you know it. Would have literally killed the safeguarding bill.
It got the intended effect however.
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It was simply done so they can use it against labour mps who now have it on record
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 31 minutes ago
So according to a Yougov poll 76% of the UK population want a new inquiry into grooming gangs.
Not one Labour mp vored for this (bunch of cants) and I hope their constituents give them hell.
Starmer and Reeve are toast, hopeless hypocritical lying rseholes.
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You, like many others, are being manipulated again. I’m sorry.
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
Of course politicians playing politics but if it's such a big and important issue then why play politics with it?
Although I'm more annoyed at how the media portrayed it because they knew what they were doing with their headlines.
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted about a minute ago
So according to a Yougov poll 76% of the UK population want a new inquiry into grooming gangs.
Not one Labour mp vored for this (bunch of cants) and I hope their constituents give them hell.
Starmer and Reeve are toast, hopeless hypocritical lying rseholes.
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They voted against an amendment to a safeguarding bill to ensure the safeguarding bill passes. If they had voted for the amendment it would have held up implementing the recommendations that were present in the previous inquiry.
If Reform and the Tories actually wanted a new inquiry, they could have proposed this outside of that bill and not prevented a safeguarding bill from passing. What they did was pure political opportunism with no regard for the issue they are pretending to care about.
Following this vote on the 9th January there was a debate on violence against women and girls. No one Reform MP turned up to the debate, despite claiming to care about these issues and wanting an inquiry.
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Exactly the response given by the Labour Party
You know that there is nothing preventing Starmer from authorising an inquiry right now of course.
Call it politics all anyone likes but there absolutely should be a full national enquiry.
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There isn't and it hasn't been ruled out. In fact, Jess Phillips has even said they would complete another inquiry if victims say that's what they want.
So if victims say they want another inquiry and Labour do it, as well as passing the Safeguarding Bill that the Tories tried to block; would you agree that is best all round? Or would you carry on moaning?
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 minutes ago
Of course politicians playing politics but if it's such a big and important issue then why play politics with it?
Although I'm more annoyed at how the media portrayed it because they knew what they were doing with their headlines.
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It’s what politicians do. All of them
I do believe that despite all that, the main protagonists genuine do care about safeguarding children far more and preventing such atrocities from reoccurring.
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
It’s funny seeing Reform and the Tories pretend to care about the victims when they pull stunts like this.
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted about a minute ago
So according to a Yougov poll 76% of the UK population want a new inquiry into grooming gangs.
Not one Labour mp vored for this (bunch of cants) and I hope their constituents give them hell.
Starmer and Reeve are toast, hopeless hypocritical lying rseholes.
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They voted against an amendment to a safeguarding bill to ensure the safeguarding bill passes. If they had voted for the amendment it would have held up implementing the recommendations that were present in the previous inquiry.
If Reform and the Tories actually wanted a new inquiry, they could have proposed this outside of that bill and not prevented a safeguarding bill from passing. What they did was pure political opportunism with no regard for the issue they are pretending to care about.
Following this vote on the 9th January there was a debate on violence against women and girls. No one Reform MP turned up to the debate, despite claiming to care about these issues and wanting an inquiry.
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Exactly the response given by the Labour Party
You know that there is nothing preventing Starmer from authorising an inquiry right now of course.
Call it politics all anyone likes but there absolutely should be a full national enquiry.
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There isn't and it hasn't been ruled out. In fact, Jess Phillips has even said they would complete another inquiry if victims say that's what they want.
So if victims say they want another inquiry and Labour do it, as well as passing the Safeguarding Bill that the Tories tried to block; would you agree that is best all round? Or would you carry on moaning?
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Starmer ruled it out. Did you miss that?
As for moaning, don’t confuse me watching Labour ministers make a Royal hunt of things and laughing at the inevitability of it all
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
It’s funny seeing Reform and the Tories pretend to care about the victims when they pull stunts like this.
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Shut up you oaf
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
Just to be clear; I have no problem with people wanting an additional inquiry.
I do have a problem with people who claim their hasn't been one, would happily see a Safeguarding Bill voted down which implements recommendations from previous inquiries and that use it to further their own political means at the expense of victims.
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted less than a minute ago
Just to be clear; I have no problem with people wanting an additional inquiry.
I do have a problem with people who claim their hasn't been one, would happily see a Safeguarding Bill voted down which implements recommendations from previous inquiries and that use it to further their own political means at the expense of victims.
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They might want a full inquiry but they’re not getting one.
It’s politics and was the only way to expose the fact that there won’t be one. Everyone and their auntie knows it was never going to be stopped so the nauseating drama of trying to pretend it was at risk is equally as bad.
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
It’s funny seeing Reform and the Tories pretend to care about the victims when they pull stunts like this.
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Shut up you oaf
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Are you telling me you disagree with this statement?
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
It’s funny seeing Reform and the Tories pretend to care about the victims when they pull stunts like this.
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Shut up you oaf
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Are you telling me you disagree with this statement?
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No. You’re absolutely right of course.
Fwxakes
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 31 minutes ago
So according to a Yougov poll 76% of the UK population want a new inquiry into grooming gangs.
Not one Labour mp vored for this (bunch of cants) and I hope their constituents give them hell.
Starmer and Reeve are toast, hopeless hypocritical lying rseholes.
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You, like many others, are being manipulated again. I’m sorry.
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Yes of course, by the same right wing media that allowed Starmer to walk into power virtually unchallenged.
I know I'm wasting my time but I'll say it again. Just because somebody doesn't agree with you it doesn't mean they are wrong.
It would be nice if those on here who voted for the clown could admit they've made a mistake and that I had it right from day one. You'll feel better for it.
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
What they really need to do is tell the nation, very specifically, when each of the recommendations of the very facking wide, very facking deep and very facking expensive enquiry which has already taken place will be fully implemented.
On the TV, in front of voters: this is what the report was, these were the findings, these are the recommendations, this is exactly when each one is being delivered against, facking done.
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted less than a minute ago
Just to be clear; I have no problem with people wanting an additional inquiry.
I do have a problem with people who claim their hasn't been one, would happily see a Safeguarding Bill voted down which implements recommendations from previous inquiries and that use it to further their own political means at the expense of victims.
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They might want a full inquiry but they’re not getting one.
It’s politics and was the only way to expose the fact that there won’t be one. Everyone and their auntie knows it was never going to be stopped so the nauseating drama of trying to pretend it was at risk is equally as bad.
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Straight question: would you have preferred the amendment to have passed and the Safeguarding Bill be delayed, meaning the recommendations of previous inquiries weren't implemented. Or the bill to pass, reforms to be able to be implemented to prevent future victims and the possibility of another multiple years inquiry still be up in the air?
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 31 minutes ago
So according to a Yougov poll 76% of the UK population want a new inquiry into grooming gangs.
Not one Labour mp vored for this (bunch of cants) and I hope their constituents give them hell.
Starmer and Reeve are toast, hopeless hypocritical lying rseholes.
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You, like many others, are being manipulated again. I’m sorry.
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Yes of course, by the same right wing media that allowed Starmer to walk into power virtually unchallenged.
I know I'm wasting my time but I'll say it again. Just because somebody doesn't agree with you it doesn't mean they are wrong.
It would be nice if those on here who voted for the clown could admit they've made a mistake and that I had it right from day one. You'll feel better for it.
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I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
It might get you to that make believe world where people on here admit that Labour is a shiiitshow and they got it wrong
posted 2 days, 2 hours ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
It’s funny seeing Reform and the Tories pretend to care about the victims when they pull stunts like this.
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Shut up you oaf
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Are you telling me you disagree with this statement?
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No. You’re absolutely right of course.
Fwxakes
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Well then shut up, you oaf.
posted 2 days, 2 hours ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted less than a minute ago
Just to be clear; I have no problem with people wanting an additional inquiry.
I do have a problem with people who claim their hasn't been one, would happily see a Safeguarding Bill voted down which implements recommendations from previous inquiries and that use it to further their own political means at the expense of victims.
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They might want a full inquiry but they’re not getting one.
It’s politics and was the only way to expose the fact that there won’t be one. Everyone and their auntie knows it was never going to be stopped so the nauseating drama of trying to pretend it was at risk is equally as bad.
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Straight question: would you have preferred the amendment to have passed and the Safeguarding Bill be delayed, meaning the recommendations of previous inquiries weren't implemented. Or the bill to pass, reforms to be able to be implemented to prevent future victims and the possibility of another multiple years inquiry still be up in the air?
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We all want the same thing which clearly is the latter.
Don’t let that confuse a political manoeuvre that exposes the reality that the leader of the government has (so far) refused a full public inquiry.
We all know that bill was never at risk of being stopped and we all know that all those in all parties do care about children’s welfare.
Maybe if plenty cut out the drama queen hysterics; it might help.
posted 2 days, 2 hours ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
It’s funny seeing Reform and the Tories pretend to care about the victims when they pull stunts like this.
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Shut up you oaf
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Are you telling me you disagree with this statement?
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No. You’re absolutely right of course.
Fwxakes
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Well then shut up, you oaf.
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Christ almighty.
Even sarcasm is beyond you. What a mess
posted 2 days, 2 hours ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted less than a minute ago
Just to be clear; I have no problem with people wanting an additional inquiry.
I do have a problem with people who claim their hasn't been one, would happily see a Safeguarding Bill voted down which implements recommendations from previous inquiries and that use it to further their own political means at the expense of victims.
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They might want a full inquiry but they’re not getting one.
It’s politics and was the only way to expose the fact that there won’t be one. Everyone and their auntie knows it was never going to be stopped so the nauseating drama of trying to pretend it was at risk is equally as bad.
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Straight question: would you have preferred the amendment to have passed and the Safeguarding Bill be delayed, meaning the recommendations of previous inquiries weren't implemented. Or the bill to pass, reforms to be able to be implemented to prevent future victims and the possibility of another multiple years inquiry still be up in the air?
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We all want the same thing which clearly is the latter.
Don’t let that confuse a political manoeuvre that exposes the reality that the leader of the government has (so far) refused a full public inquiry.
We all know that bill was never at risk of being stopped and we all know that all those in all parties do care about children’s welfare.
Maybe if plenty cut out the drama queen hysterics; it might help.
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So you agree we are in a better timeline than the one presented by the Tories and Reform with that amendment?
posted 2 days, 2 hours ago
and we all know that all those in all parties do care about children’s welfare.
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What a mess.
posted 2 days, 2 hours ago
"Yes of course, by the same right wing media that allowed Starmer to walk into power virtually unchallenged"
and why was he so unchallenged....two things
1) The Tories were utterly facked & finished
2) Ed Davey is a fackin circus sideshow
3) We weren't having Nigel Farage in charge
That's three things...
posted 2 days, 2 hours ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted less than a minute ago
Just to be clear; I have no problem with people wanting an additional inquiry.
I do have a problem with people who claim their hasn't been one, would happily see a Safeguarding Bill voted down which implements recommendations from previous inquiries and that use it to further their own political means at the expense of victims.
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They might want a full inquiry but they’re not getting one.
It’s politics and was the only way to expose the fact that there won’t be one. Everyone and their auntie knows it was never going to be stopped so the nauseating drama of trying to pretend it was at risk is equally as bad.
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Straight question: would you have preferred the amendment to have passed and the Safeguarding Bill be delayed, meaning the recommendations of previous inquiries weren't implemented. Or the bill to pass, reforms to be able to be implemented to prevent future victims and the possibility of another multiple years inquiry still be up in the air?
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We all want the same thing which clearly is the latter.
Don’t let that confuse a political manoeuvre that exposes the reality that the leader of the government has (so far) refused a full public inquiry.
We all know that bill was never at risk of being stopped and we all know that all those in all parties do care about children’s welfare.
Maybe if plenty cut out the drama queen hysterics; it might help.
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So you agree we are in a better timeline than the one presented by the Tories and Reform with that amendment?
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I agree that the bill passing was absolutely the right outcome. I thought the exchanges in House yesterday were mostly adult and challenging without the usual petty insults. Both did well.
There should however now be a full public inquiry authorised by the PM.
posted 2 days, 2 hours ago
FFS at least give them a chance....been in power literally five minutes
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posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted about a minute ago
So according to a Yougov poll 76% of the UK population want a new inquiry into grooming gangs.
Not one Labour mp vored for this (bunch of cants) and I hope their constituents give them hell.
Starmer and Reeve are toast, hopeless hypocritical lying rseholes.
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They voted against an amendment to a safeguarding bill to ensure the safeguarding bill passes. If they had voted for the amendment it would have held up implementing the recommendations that were present in the previous inquiry.
If Reform and the Tories actually wanted a new inquiry, they could have proposed this outside of that bill and not prevented a safeguarding bill from passing. What they did was pure political opportunism with no regard for the issue they are pretending to care about.
Following this vote on the 9th January there was a debate on violence against women and girls. No one Reform MP turned up to the debate, despite claiming to care about these issues and wanting an inquiry.
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Exactly the response given by the Labour Party
You know that there is nothing preventing Starmer from authorising an inquiry right now of course.
Call it politics all anyone likes but there absolutely should be a full national enquiry.
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I agree there's nothing stopping him but that bill amendment was dumb way to go about it and you know it. Would have literally killed the safeguarding bill.
It got the intended effect however.
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Exactly. It was a political move and was designed for one reason in the full knowledge that the bill wouldn’t be stopped.
It worked. Politicians being political eh?
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted about a minute ago
So according to a Yougov poll 76% of the UK population want a new inquiry into grooming gangs.
Not one Labour mp vored for this (bunch of cants) and I hope their constituents give them hell.
Starmer and Reeve are toast, hopeless hypocritical lying rseholes.
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They voted against an amendment to a safeguarding bill to ensure the safeguarding bill passes. If they had voted for the amendment it would have held up implementing the recommendations that were present in the previous inquiry.
If Reform and the Tories actually wanted a new inquiry, they could have proposed this outside of that bill and not prevented a safeguarding bill from passing. What they did was pure political opportunism with no regard for the issue they are pretending to care about.
Following this vote on the 9th January there was a debate on violence against women and girls. No one Reform MP turned up to the debate, despite claiming to care about these issues and wanting an inquiry.
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Exactly the response given by the Labour Party
You know that there is nothing preventing Starmer from authorising an inquiry right now of course.
Call it politics all anyone likes but there absolutely should be a full national enquiry.
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I agree there's nothing stopping him but that bill amendment was dumb way to go about it and you know it. Would have literally killed the safeguarding bill.
It got the intended effect however.
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It was simply done so they can use it against labour mps who now have it on record
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 31 minutes ago
So according to a Yougov poll 76% of the UK population want a new inquiry into grooming gangs.
Not one Labour mp vored for this (bunch of cants) and I hope their constituents give them hell.
Starmer and Reeve are toast, hopeless hypocritical lying rseholes.
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You, like many others, are being manipulated again. I’m sorry.
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
Of course politicians playing politics but if it's such a big and important issue then why play politics with it?
Although I'm more annoyed at how the media portrayed it because they knew what they were doing with their headlines.
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted about a minute ago
So according to a Yougov poll 76% of the UK population want a new inquiry into grooming gangs.
Not one Labour mp vored for this (bunch of cants) and I hope their constituents give them hell.
Starmer and Reeve are toast, hopeless hypocritical lying rseholes.
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They voted against an amendment to a safeguarding bill to ensure the safeguarding bill passes. If they had voted for the amendment it would have held up implementing the recommendations that were present in the previous inquiry.
If Reform and the Tories actually wanted a new inquiry, they could have proposed this outside of that bill and not prevented a safeguarding bill from passing. What they did was pure political opportunism with no regard for the issue they are pretending to care about.
Following this vote on the 9th January there was a debate on violence against women and girls. No one Reform MP turned up to the debate, despite claiming to care about these issues and wanting an inquiry.
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Exactly the response given by the Labour Party
You know that there is nothing preventing Starmer from authorising an inquiry right now of course.
Call it politics all anyone likes but there absolutely should be a full national enquiry.
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There isn't and it hasn't been ruled out. In fact, Jess Phillips has even said they would complete another inquiry if victims say that's what they want.
So if victims say they want another inquiry and Labour do it, as well as passing the Safeguarding Bill that the Tories tried to block; would you agree that is best all round? Or would you carry on moaning?
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 minutes ago
Of course politicians playing politics but if it's such a big and important issue then why play politics with it?
Although I'm more annoyed at how the media portrayed it because they knew what they were doing with their headlines.
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It’s what politicians do. All of them
I do believe that despite all that, the main protagonists genuine do care about safeguarding children far more and preventing such atrocities from reoccurring.
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
It’s funny seeing Reform and the Tories pretend to care about the victims when they pull stunts like this.
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted about a minute ago
So according to a Yougov poll 76% of the UK population want a new inquiry into grooming gangs.
Not one Labour mp vored for this (bunch of cants) and I hope their constituents give them hell.
Starmer and Reeve are toast, hopeless hypocritical lying rseholes.
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They voted against an amendment to a safeguarding bill to ensure the safeguarding bill passes. If they had voted for the amendment it would have held up implementing the recommendations that were present in the previous inquiry.
If Reform and the Tories actually wanted a new inquiry, they could have proposed this outside of that bill and not prevented a safeguarding bill from passing. What they did was pure political opportunism with no regard for the issue they are pretending to care about.
Following this vote on the 9th January there was a debate on violence against women and girls. No one Reform MP turned up to the debate, despite claiming to care about these issues and wanting an inquiry.
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Exactly the response given by the Labour Party
You know that there is nothing preventing Starmer from authorising an inquiry right now of course.
Call it politics all anyone likes but there absolutely should be a full national enquiry.
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There isn't and it hasn't been ruled out. In fact, Jess Phillips has even said they would complete another inquiry if victims say that's what they want.
So if victims say they want another inquiry and Labour do it, as well as passing the Safeguarding Bill that the Tories tried to block; would you agree that is best all round? Or would you carry on moaning?
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Starmer ruled it out. Did you miss that?
As for moaning, don’t confuse me watching Labour ministers make a Royal hunt of things and laughing at the inevitability of it all
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
It’s funny seeing Reform and the Tories pretend to care about the victims when they pull stunts like this.
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Shut up you oaf
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
Just to be clear; I have no problem with people wanting an additional inquiry.
I do have a problem with people who claim their hasn't been one, would happily see a Safeguarding Bill voted down which implements recommendations from previous inquiries and that use it to further their own political means at the expense of victims.
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted less than a minute ago
Just to be clear; I have no problem with people wanting an additional inquiry.
I do have a problem with people who claim their hasn't been one, would happily see a Safeguarding Bill voted down which implements recommendations from previous inquiries and that use it to further their own political means at the expense of victims.
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They might want a full inquiry but they’re not getting one.
It’s politics and was the only way to expose the fact that there won’t be one. Everyone and their auntie knows it was never going to be stopped so the nauseating drama of trying to pretend it was at risk is equally as bad.
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
It’s funny seeing Reform and the Tories pretend to care about the victims when they pull stunts like this.
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Shut up you oaf
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Are you telling me you disagree with this statement?
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
It’s funny seeing Reform and the Tories pretend to care about the victims when they pull stunts like this.
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Shut up you oaf
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Are you telling me you disagree with this statement?
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No. You’re absolutely right of course.
Fwxakes
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 31 minutes ago
So according to a Yougov poll 76% of the UK population want a new inquiry into grooming gangs.
Not one Labour mp vored for this (bunch of cants) and I hope their constituents give them hell.
Starmer and Reeve are toast, hopeless hypocritical lying rseholes.
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You, like many others, are being manipulated again. I’m sorry.
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Yes of course, by the same right wing media that allowed Starmer to walk into power virtually unchallenged.
I know I'm wasting my time but I'll say it again. Just because somebody doesn't agree with you it doesn't mean they are wrong.
It would be nice if those on here who voted for the clown could admit they've made a mistake and that I had it right from day one. You'll feel better for it.
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
What they really need to do is tell the nation, very specifically, when each of the recommendations of the very facking wide, very facking deep and very facking expensive enquiry which has already taken place will be fully implemented.
On the TV, in front of voters: this is what the report was, these were the findings, these are the recommendations, this is exactly when each one is being delivered against, facking done.
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted less than a minute ago
Just to be clear; I have no problem with people wanting an additional inquiry.
I do have a problem with people who claim their hasn't been one, would happily see a Safeguarding Bill voted down which implements recommendations from previous inquiries and that use it to further their own political means at the expense of victims.
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They might want a full inquiry but they’re not getting one.
It’s politics and was the only way to expose the fact that there won’t be one. Everyone and their auntie knows it was never going to be stopped so the nauseating drama of trying to pretend it was at risk is equally as bad.
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Straight question: would you have preferred the amendment to have passed and the Safeguarding Bill be delayed, meaning the recommendations of previous inquiries weren't implemented. Or the bill to pass, reforms to be able to be implemented to prevent future victims and the possibility of another multiple years inquiry still be up in the air?
posted 2 days, 3 hours ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 31 minutes ago
So according to a Yougov poll 76% of the UK population want a new inquiry into grooming gangs.
Not one Labour mp vored for this (bunch of cants) and I hope their constituents give them hell.
Starmer and Reeve are toast, hopeless hypocritical lying rseholes.
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You, like many others, are being manipulated again. I’m sorry.
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Yes of course, by the same right wing media that allowed Starmer to walk into power virtually unchallenged.
I know I'm wasting my time but I'll say it again. Just because somebody doesn't agree with you it doesn't mean they are wrong.
It would be nice if those on here who voted for the clown could admit they've made a mistake and that I had it right from day one. You'll feel better for it.
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I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
It might get you to that make believe world where people on here admit that Labour is a shiiitshow and they got it wrong
posted 2 days, 2 hours ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
It’s funny seeing Reform and the Tories pretend to care about the victims when they pull stunts like this.
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Shut up you oaf
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Are you telling me you disagree with this statement?
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No. You’re absolutely right of course.
Fwxakes
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Well then shut up, you oaf.
posted 2 days, 2 hours ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted less than a minute ago
Just to be clear; I have no problem with people wanting an additional inquiry.
I do have a problem with people who claim their hasn't been one, would happily see a Safeguarding Bill voted down which implements recommendations from previous inquiries and that use it to further their own political means at the expense of victims.
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They might want a full inquiry but they’re not getting one.
It’s politics and was the only way to expose the fact that there won’t be one. Everyone and their auntie knows it was never going to be stopped so the nauseating drama of trying to pretend it was at risk is equally as bad.
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Straight question: would you have preferred the amendment to have passed and the Safeguarding Bill be delayed, meaning the recommendations of previous inquiries weren't implemented. Or the bill to pass, reforms to be able to be implemented to prevent future victims and the possibility of another multiple years inquiry still be up in the air?
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We all want the same thing which clearly is the latter.
Don’t let that confuse a political manoeuvre that exposes the reality that the leader of the government has (so far) refused a full public inquiry.
We all know that bill was never at risk of being stopped and we all know that all those in all parties do care about children’s welfare.
Maybe if plenty cut out the drama queen hysterics; it might help.
posted 2 days, 2 hours ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
It’s funny seeing Reform and the Tories pretend to care about the victims when they pull stunts like this.
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Shut up you oaf
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Are you telling me you disagree with this statement?
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No. You’re absolutely right of course.
Fwxakes
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Well then shut up, you oaf.
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Christ almighty.
Even sarcasm is beyond you. What a mess
posted 2 days, 2 hours ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted less than a minute ago
Just to be clear; I have no problem with people wanting an additional inquiry.
I do have a problem with people who claim their hasn't been one, would happily see a Safeguarding Bill voted down which implements recommendations from previous inquiries and that use it to further their own political means at the expense of victims.
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They might want a full inquiry but they’re not getting one.
It’s politics and was the only way to expose the fact that there won’t be one. Everyone and their auntie knows it was never going to be stopped so the nauseating drama of trying to pretend it was at risk is equally as bad.
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Straight question: would you have preferred the amendment to have passed and the Safeguarding Bill be delayed, meaning the recommendations of previous inquiries weren't implemented. Or the bill to pass, reforms to be able to be implemented to prevent future victims and the possibility of another multiple years inquiry still be up in the air?
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We all want the same thing which clearly is the latter.
Don’t let that confuse a political manoeuvre that exposes the reality that the leader of the government has (so far) refused a full public inquiry.
We all know that bill was never at risk of being stopped and we all know that all those in all parties do care about children’s welfare.
Maybe if plenty cut out the drama queen hysterics; it might help.
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So you agree we are in a better timeline than the one presented by the Tories and Reform with that amendment?
posted 2 days, 2 hours ago
and we all know that all those in all parties do care about children’s welfare.
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What a mess.
posted 2 days, 2 hours ago
"Yes of course, by the same right wing media that allowed Starmer to walk into power virtually unchallenged"
and why was he so unchallenged....two things
1) The Tories were utterly facked & finished
2) Ed Davey is a fackin circus sideshow
3) We weren't having Nigel Farage in charge
That's three things...
posted 2 days, 2 hours ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted less than a minute ago
Just to be clear; I have no problem with people wanting an additional inquiry.
I do have a problem with people who claim their hasn't been one, would happily see a Safeguarding Bill voted down which implements recommendations from previous inquiries and that use it to further their own political means at the expense of victims.
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They might want a full inquiry but they’re not getting one.
It’s politics and was the only way to expose the fact that there won’t be one. Everyone and their auntie knows it was never going to be stopped so the nauseating drama of trying to pretend it was at risk is equally as bad.
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Straight question: would you have preferred the amendment to have passed and the Safeguarding Bill be delayed, meaning the recommendations of previous inquiries weren't implemented. Or the bill to pass, reforms to be able to be implemented to prevent future victims and the possibility of another multiple years inquiry still be up in the air?
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We all want the same thing which clearly is the latter.
Don’t let that confuse a political manoeuvre that exposes the reality that the leader of the government has (so far) refused a full public inquiry.
We all know that bill was never at risk of being stopped and we all know that all those in all parties do care about children’s welfare.
Maybe if plenty cut out the drama queen hysterics; it might help.
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So you agree we are in a better timeline than the one presented by the Tories and Reform with that amendment?
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I agree that the bill passing was absolutely the right outcome. I thought the exchanges in House yesterday were mostly adult and challenging without the usual petty insults. Both did well.
There should however now be a full public inquiry authorised by the PM.
posted 2 days, 2 hours ago
FFS at least give them a chance....been in power literally five minutes
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