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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 26 minutes ago
Curious.
How many laptops would a rich businessman have?
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He’s funny isn’t he? He has no idea if it was his laptop or not, if it was stolen or not if it was russian hax or not.
As I said above, a small part of me wonders whether all of this stuff is coming up again as part of a plan to oust Joe. Probably isn’t but it’s crossed my mind.
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To oust Joe, just impeach him over Ukraine. The footage is readily available. 🤷♂️
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Are Facebook banning material on the Biden and Ukraine story?
Watched actress Rose Magowan, abused by celeb friends of the Dems, yesterday say she was banned from Facebook for posting pics of Clinton and calling the abuser out.
Trumpet had an interview with his daughter in law removed too, prompting Bernie Sanders to say they could come for you or me next, so who decides what big tech allows and bans now, for our news?
BBC, Sky, Ch4 etc seem obsessed by race, gender issues now, which is fine, but ignores so many other topics and news items.
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 26 minutes ago
Curious.
How many laptops would a rich businessman have?
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He’s funny isn’t he? He has no idea if it was his laptop or not, if it was stolen or not if it was russian hax or not.
As I said above, a small part of me wonders whether all of this stuff is coming up again as part of a plan to oust Joe. Probably isn’t but it’s crossed my mind.
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To oust Joe, just impeach him over Ukraine. The footage is readily available. 🤷♂️
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Are Facebook banning material on the Biden and Ukraine story?
Watched actress Rose Magowan, abused by celeb friends of the Dems, yesterday say she was banned from Facebook for posting pics of Clinton and calling the abuser out.
Trumpet had an interview with his daughter in law removed too, prompting Bernie Sanders to say they could come for you or me next, so who decides what big tech allows and bans now, for our news?
BBC, Sky, Ch4 etc seem obsessed by race, gender issues now, which is fine, but ignores so many other topics and news items.
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The Facebook Twitter etc situation needs to be properly addressed ASAP. It’s a really, really big issue.
comment by 4zA (U22472)
posted 5 minutes ago
whut they rioting about?
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Where do you start?
Pira funerals with large crowds not being covid breaches, according to PPS.
Border and identity issues, some brexit linked.
SF in govt.
Wanting to fight police and be seen on tv.
Thuggery.
Paramiliary recruiting videos.
Love of violence.
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posted 7 minutes ago
whut they rioting about?
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Plus, thin crust pizza.
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by 4zA (U22472)
posted 5 minutes ago
whut they rioting about?
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Where do you start?
Pira funerals with large crowds not being covid breaches, according to PPS.
Border and identity issues, some brexit linked.
SF in govt.
Wanting to fight police and be seen on tv.
Thuggery.
Paramiliary recruiting videos.
Love of violence.
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they shud all go home n play board games
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 26 minutes ago
Curious.
How many laptops would a rich businessman have?
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He’s funny isn’t he? He has no idea if it was his laptop or not, if it was stolen or not if it was russian hax or not.
As I said above, a small part of me wonders whether all of this stuff is coming up again as part of a plan to oust Joe. Probably isn’t but it’s crossed my mind.
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To oust Joe, just impeach him over Ukraine. The footage is readily available. 🤷♂️
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Are Facebook banning material on the Biden and Ukraine story?
Watched actress Rose Magowan, abused by celeb friends of the Dems, yesterday say she was banned from Facebook for posting pics of Clinton and calling the abuser out.
Trumpet had an interview with his daughter in law removed too, prompting Bernie Sanders to say they could come for you or me next, so who decides what big tech allows and bans now, for our news?
BBC, Sky, Ch4 etc seem obsessed by race, gender issues now, which is fine, but ignores so many other topics and news items.
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The Facebook Twitter etc situation needs to be properly addressed ASAP. It’s a really, really big issue.
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Agreed, as racists can use and abuse it, while conservative opinion is being blocked??
Criticism of Dems is stopped, while republicans are open season?
If it is not ok to lambast Clinton and dems on abuse of women, or using positions of power for personal gain, are some dems controlling big tech?
Rose Magowan is not Trump or natzi, but she is being silenced, even though she was a victim?
Because of celebs Dem links.
That really sucks.
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posted 4 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by 4zA (U22472)
posted 5 minutes ago
whut they rioting about?
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Where do you start?
Pira funerals with large crowds not being covid breaches, according to PPS.
Border and identity issues, some brexit linked.
SF in govt.
Wanting to fight police and be seen on tv.
Thuggery.
Paramiliary recruiting videos.
Love of violence.
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they shud all go home n play board games
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Bored of lockdown board games, so social media stirs them up on Facebook and godfathers push them forward to fight police, for Ulster.
Like most riots, it is an excuse to be violent, using a cause as cover.
However, violence leads to power here and around the world, sadly.
The new VAT rules and customs and checks are a royal pig’s ear. Here’s how it’s working for us.
(To set the scene, we’re an SME based in Portugal that manufactures and then retails online to customers worldwide.)
- We are still shipping to UK customers. Absolutely no problems for our customers getting our products in, because there aren’t any checks or controls on VAT or apparently anything else at the UK border. All of our packages are flying straight through, and all of our UK customers still seem very happy. This is currently a nice win for EU business.
- Portugal, like all other EU nations, has in place customs procedures for everything that comes into the EU from outside, including, of course, the UK. Most UK SMEs (including all of our remaining UK suppliers) don’t seem to understand how to label their packages to expedite customs clearance. Everything stopped by customs automatically gets whacked with a minimum EUR12 charge, and then import VAT is applied (at 23% here rather than the UK’s 20%) on top. As we buy small quantities of supplies, frequently, from many different suppliers on a JIT basis, this has made it almost impossible financially and practically to continue to work with UK suppliers. This is obviously already a big problem for UK B2B sellers, and, as such, a big win for EU B2B business.
- Same applies to retail as it does wholesale purchases. It has become much more expensive and difficult for end-consumers to buy from UK retailers. Everything is being stopped at the border and whacked with charges. We used to buy stuff like giant sacks of tea bags online to get posted out here, as well as gift shopping, purchases from Depop sellers, and the rest. No more. Again, this is obviously a problem for UK B2C sellers of all scales who sold in any significant way to the EU market, and, as such, a very nice win for EU B2C sellers of all scales.
- VAT registration. UK govt, in its wisdom, has decided that the UK should become the only country in the world (as far as I am aware) with a single-sale VAT registration requirement. The threshold for selling into the UK is £0. I cannot imagine what kind of bureaucratic nightmare this has created for HMRC, but we applied for our VAT regn in December and are yet to receive anything from HMRC. Well done; you’ve created a massive, crippling admin burden the UK taxpayer has to foot the bill for and simultaneously made the UK the most bureaucratically difficult country for online sellers to access, no doubt to the detriment of the UK consumer.
They’ve shot themselves in both feet, and now appear to be systematically working their way around the rest of the figurative body, emptying the rest of the magazine into any remaining unwounded flesh.
Fack, wrong thread and now I’m resubscribed
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The Chinese use them as a valid method of controlling the end stage of coming out of a pandemic. We follow the Chinese so why not now?
The point is that the nation just rolled over on its belly all last year and these are the consequences of doing that.
Suck it up and maybe learn the lesson to not be so accepting next time something like this happens.
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Is everything ok btw? You’re seeming quite grumpy at the mo. I think the advise to lock down came from SAGE, not from China.
Not sure why you’re directing any animosity towards me (or indeed many others on this site). I’ve consistently said it was about ensuring that the NHS wasn’t overwhelmed.
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I was speaking generally, not specifically at you. At least I’m trying my best to because I can’t speak to everyone with all of their individual views.
Yes the SAGE recommendations which were the same as China. We had protocols in place which we had agreed upon years prior to Covid-19 and threw them out the window and copied the Chinese approach.
Apologies for grumpiness (to you also Tam), I am incredibly irritable these days; the lockdown is getting to all of us and it just really pees me off when people apply concern about a protocol such as passports but didn’t apply the same vigorous concern when our actual freedoms were taken away. The proportions are way out of whack.
Yeah of course the NHS was the issue, did lockdowns actually achieve much in this regard? We still don’t really know mostly because the data is faulty and the.consequences are still yet to be realised. More so with this roadmap we were given, so many people thought it was fair & reasonable and even wanted it to be tougher! Utterly ridiculous imo.
Yet for some weird reason, many of those people who felt lockdowns were justified and that the roadmap was reasonable now don’t think that passports are justified?
We were given the longest lockdown AFTER the creation of effective vaccines and hardly anyone batted an eyelid but passports are this big danger.
Ultimately, all I’m trying to say is this: if more people had concerns and/or voiced and raised their already existing concerns about lockdown in the first place last year then we wouldn’t have a situation whereby our freedoms are easily taken and given back.
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Appreciate you’re having a tough time; can very much empathise
I suspect that there will be some people wanting to push back on the proposed rules or passports as they’re also feeling grumpy and worn out by the situation, an entirely understandable reaction. I’ll just restate what I’ve said from the very start; it’s simple supply and demand.
Lockdown as a measure I think does work, would be interested to understand why you think it does not. What reduces the effectiveness of it is doing it at the wrong time and in the wrong way, which I think everyone here would agree with.
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whut they rioting about?
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Plus, thin crust pizza.
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Good cause to riot about. Deep Pan or Chicago style is an abomination.
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correct
U.K. -
2,297 new cases
10 new deaths
That’s so low, must be lowest since August. Open us up!!!
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Appreciate you’re having a tough time; can very much empathise
I suspect that there will be some people wanting to push back on the proposed rules or passports as they’re also feeling grumpy and worn out by the situation, an entirely understandable reaction. I’ll just restate what I’ve said from the very start; it’s simple supply and demand.
Lockdown as a measure I think does work, would be interested to understand why you think it does not. What reduces the effectiveness of it is doing it at the wrong time and in the wrong way, which I think everyone here would agree with.
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Work or don’t work is far too binary.
How well do they work? Do they reduce ICU / hospital covid admissions by 1%? 5%?25%?50%? We don’t have the first clue if we’re honest about it.
People will jump to the correlation of lockdowns and reduction in cases but ignore the summer months from last year? If lockdowns are so effective that they’re worth the undeniable and horrendous cost, then why did we have such low numbers from May-September with no lockdown? Why have there been similar results in areas with completely different approaches? There are no answers to these questions which satisfactorily explain why we were so easily and quickly accepting of such a course of action.
The point is that none of this was properly discussed, many who tried to question this lockdown narrative of support were slimed and ridiculed and now people want to make what is essentially the same point: that restrictive measures (passports) aren’t worth it for the cost. Yet they were happy to accept lockdown with no evidence and worse yet without even asking for or demanding evidence.
This isn’t a controversial set of questions or observations, the same thing happened with the Iraq War and Brexit to a lesser extent but at least there was a genuine opposition with Brexit.
The first lockdown despite setting the trend, was in my opinion somewhat understandable. We had very little info to go on and people naturally panic. But to be given a longer lockdown after the production of effective vaccines was ridiculous and far too many people just accepted it and these passports are one of the consequences of the lack of opposition.
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posted 41 minutes ago
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posted 10 minutes ago
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posted 25 minutes ago
comment by 4zA (U22472)
posted 7 minutes ago
whut they rioting about?
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Plus, thin crust pizza.
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Good cause to riot about. Deep Pan or Chicago style is an abomination.
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correct
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Concur
Calzone ya friggin peasants.
Biden unveiling his $2TRILLION jobs initiative, infrastructral like roads, care homes, broadband, R+D, affordable housing..
And he's going to pay for it by rolling back a bit of trumps tax cut for billionaires.
Ending subsidies for fossil fuel corporations.
Hammering anyone that deals in America and uses foreign tax havens.
This is on top of his pandemic relief spending of $1.4TRILLION. Talk about speculating to accumulate!!
Yeah but laptops will bring him down!
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posted 2 minutes ago
Calzone ya friggin peasants.
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calzone r literally 4 pesants
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posted 10 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 11 minutes ago
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Appreciate you’re having a tough time; can very much empathise
I suspect that there will be some people wanting to push back on the proposed rules or passports as they’re also feeling grumpy and worn out by the situation, an entirely understandable reaction. I’ll just restate what I’ve said from the very start; it’s simple supply and demand.
Lockdown as a measure I think does work, would be interested to understand why you think it does not. What reduces the effectiveness of it is doing it at the wrong time and in the wrong way, which I think everyone here would agree with.
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Work or don’t work is far too binary.
How well do they work? Do they reduce ICU / hospital covid admissions by 1%? 5%?25%?50%? We don’t have the first clue if we’re honest about it.
People will jump to the correlation of lockdowns and reduction in cases but ignore the summer months from last year? If lockdowns are so effective that they’re worth the undeniable and horrendous cost, then why did we have such low numbers from May-September with no lockdown? Why have there been similar results in areas with completely different approaches? There are no answers to these questions which satisfactorily explain why we were so easily and quickly accepting of such a course of action.
The point is that none of this was properly discussed, many who tried to question this lockdown narrative of support were slimed and ridiculed and now people want to make what is essentially the same point: that restrictive measures (passports) aren’t worth it for the cost. Yet they were happy to accept lockdown with no evidence and worse yet without even asking for or demanding evidence.
This isn’t a controversial set of questions or observations, the same thing happened with the Iraq War and Brexit to a lesser extent but at least there was a genuine opposition with Brexit.
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There was a reasonable amount of analysis into the extent of the effectiveness of lockdown measures no? Admittedly I may be more data engaged than others but saw a great deal on the impact lockdowns had on the extent of social interaction and thus droplet transmission.
So information is never going to be perfect; even with global data pools you’re still going to have quirks or limitations in it. I know we discussed some of the underlying reasons for potential “quirks” in outcomes as a result of behavioural changes (so for example self enforcing lockdown measures) so don’t necessarily want to go over that again.
Personally my issue with certain lockdown sceptics was that they were employing bad science and even a little digging showed clear biases present in many of them which undermined their position. I am intrigued; do you perceive that the scientists at SAGE are lockdown fanatics, or that their proposals, and indeed those from other bodies such as the actuarial response group, are ideologically as opposed to scientifically driven?
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Calzone ya friggin peasants.
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calzone r literally 4 pesants
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Animale!
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posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
whut they rioting about?
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The DUP encouraged them to mask their sheer incompetence, which brought about the NI protocol they are so unhappy about. When the DUP told their followers to vote for Brexit they had hoped for a fantasy. Reality hurts, it hurts their followers. They were warned but wouldn't listen. It was all self harm. They should own it. But no "look over there, something something ra" and the sheep follow 🐑
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comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 26 minutes ago
Curious.
How many laptops would a rich businessman have?
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He’s funny isn’t he? He has no idea if it was his laptop or not, if it was stolen or not if it was russian hax or not.
As I said above, a small part of me wonders whether all of this stuff is coming up again as part of a plan to oust Joe. Probably isn’t but it’s crossed my mind.
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To oust Joe, just impeach him over Ukraine. The footage is readily available. 🤷♂️
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Are Facebook banning material on the Biden and Ukraine story?
Watched actress Rose Magowan, abused by celeb friends of the Dems, yesterday say she was banned from Facebook for posting pics of Clinton and calling the abuser out.
Trumpet had an interview with his daughter in law removed too, prompting Bernie Sanders to say they could come for you or me next, so who decides what big tech allows and bans now, for our news?
BBC, Sky, Ch4 etc seem obsessed by race, gender issues now, which is fine, but ignores so many other topics and news items.
posted on 4/4/21
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 26 minutes ago
Curious.
How many laptops would a rich businessman have?
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He’s funny isn’t he? He has no idea if it was his laptop or not, if it was stolen or not if it was russian hax or not.
As I said above, a small part of me wonders whether all of this stuff is coming up again as part of a plan to oust Joe. Probably isn’t but it’s crossed my mind.
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To oust Joe, just impeach him over Ukraine. The footage is readily available. 🤷♂️
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Are Facebook banning material on the Biden and Ukraine story?
Watched actress Rose Magowan, abused by celeb friends of the Dems, yesterday say she was banned from Facebook for posting pics of Clinton and calling the abuser out.
Trumpet had an interview with his daughter in law removed too, prompting Bernie Sanders to say they could come for you or me next, so who decides what big tech allows and bans now, for our news?
BBC, Sky, Ch4 etc seem obsessed by race, gender issues now, which is fine, but ignores so many other topics and news items.
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The Facebook Twitter etc situation needs to be properly addressed ASAP. It’s a really, really big issue.
posted on 4/4/21
comment by 4zA (U22472)
posted 5 minutes ago
whut they rioting about?
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Where do you start?
Pira funerals with large crowds not being covid breaches, according to PPS.
Border and identity issues, some brexit linked.
SF in govt.
Wanting to fight police and be seen on tv.
Thuggery.
Paramiliary recruiting videos.
Love of violence.
posted on 4/4/21
comment by 4zA (U22472)
posted 7 minutes ago
whut they rioting about?
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Plus, thin crust pizza.
posted on 4/4/21
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by 4zA (U22472)
posted 5 minutes ago
whut they rioting about?
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Where do you start?
Pira funerals with large crowds not being covid breaches, according to PPS.
Border and identity issues, some brexit linked.
SF in govt.
Wanting to fight police and be seen on tv.
Thuggery.
Paramiliary recruiting videos.
Love of violence.
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they shud all go home n play board games
posted on 4/4/21
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 26 minutes ago
Curious.
How many laptops would a rich businessman have?
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He’s funny isn’t he? He has no idea if it was his laptop or not, if it was stolen or not if it was russian hax or not.
As I said above, a small part of me wonders whether all of this stuff is coming up again as part of a plan to oust Joe. Probably isn’t but it’s crossed my mind.
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To oust Joe, just impeach him over Ukraine. The footage is readily available. 🤷♂️
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Are Facebook banning material on the Biden and Ukraine story?
Watched actress Rose Magowan, abused by celeb friends of the Dems, yesterday say she was banned from Facebook for posting pics of Clinton and calling the abuser out.
Trumpet had an interview with his daughter in law removed too, prompting Bernie Sanders to say they could come for you or me next, so who decides what big tech allows and bans now, for our news?
BBC, Sky, Ch4 etc seem obsessed by race, gender issues now, which is fine, but ignores so many other topics and news items.
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The Facebook Twitter etc situation needs to be properly addressed ASAP. It’s a really, really big issue.
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Agreed, as racists can use and abuse it, while conservative opinion is being blocked??
Criticism of Dems is stopped, while republicans are open season?
If it is not ok to lambast Clinton and dems on abuse of women, or using positions of power for personal gain, are some dems controlling big tech?
Rose Magowan is not Trump or natzi, but she is being silenced, even though she was a victim?
Because of celebs Dem links.
That really sucks.
posted on 4/4/21
comment by 4zA (U22472)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by 4zA (U22472)
posted 5 minutes ago
whut they rioting about?
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Where do you start?
Pira funerals with large crowds not being covid breaches, according to PPS.
Border and identity issues, some brexit linked.
SF in govt.
Wanting to fight police and be seen on tv.
Thuggery.
Paramiliary recruiting videos.
Love of violence.
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they shud all go home n play board games
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Bored of lockdown board games, so social media stirs them up on Facebook and godfathers push them forward to fight police, for Ulster.
Like most riots, it is an excuse to be violent, using a cause as cover.
However, violence leads to power here and around the world, sadly.
posted on 4/4/21
The new VAT rules and customs and checks are a royal pig’s ear. Here’s how it’s working for us.
(To set the scene, we’re an SME based in Portugal that manufactures and then retails online to customers worldwide.)
- We are still shipping to UK customers. Absolutely no problems for our customers getting our products in, because there aren’t any checks or controls on VAT or apparently anything else at the UK border. All of our packages are flying straight through, and all of our UK customers still seem very happy. This is currently a nice win for EU business.
- Portugal, like all other EU nations, has in place customs procedures for everything that comes into the EU from outside, including, of course, the UK. Most UK SMEs (including all of our remaining UK suppliers) don’t seem to understand how to label their packages to expedite customs clearance. Everything stopped by customs automatically gets whacked with a minimum EUR12 charge, and then import VAT is applied (at 23% here rather than the UK’s 20%) on top. As we buy small quantities of supplies, frequently, from many different suppliers on a JIT basis, this has made it almost impossible financially and practically to continue to work with UK suppliers. This is obviously already a big problem for UK B2B sellers, and, as such, a big win for EU B2B business.
- Same applies to retail as it does wholesale purchases. It has become much more expensive and difficult for end-consumers to buy from UK retailers. Everything is being stopped at the border and whacked with charges. We used to buy stuff like giant sacks of tea bags online to get posted out here, as well as gift shopping, purchases from Depop sellers, and the rest. No more. Again, this is obviously a problem for UK B2C sellers of all scales who sold in any significant way to the EU market, and, as such, a very nice win for EU B2C sellers of all scales.
- VAT registration. UK govt, in its wisdom, has decided that the UK should become the only country in the world (as far as I am aware) with a single-sale VAT registration requirement. The threshold for selling into the UK is £0. I cannot imagine what kind of bureaucratic nightmare this has created for HMRC, but we applied for our VAT regn in December and are yet to receive anything from HMRC. Well done; you’ve created a massive, crippling admin burden the UK taxpayer has to foot the bill for and simultaneously made the UK the most bureaucratically difficult country for online sellers to access, no doubt to the detriment of the UK consumer.
They’ve shot themselves in both feet, and now appear to be systematically working their way around the rest of the figurative body, emptying the rest of the magazine into any remaining unwounded flesh.
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The Chinese use them as a valid method of controlling the end stage of coming out of a pandemic. We follow the Chinese so why not now?
The point is that the nation just rolled over on its belly all last year and these are the consequences of doing that.
Suck it up and maybe learn the lesson to not be so accepting next time something like this happens.
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Is everything ok btw? You’re seeming quite grumpy at the mo. I think the advise to lock down came from SAGE, not from China.
Not sure why you’re directing any animosity towards me (or indeed many others on this site). I’ve consistently said it was about ensuring that the NHS wasn’t overwhelmed.
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I was speaking generally, not specifically at you. At least I’m trying my best to because I can’t speak to everyone with all of their individual views.
Yes the SAGE recommendations which were the same as China. We had protocols in place which we had agreed upon years prior to Covid-19 and threw them out the window and copied the Chinese approach.
Apologies for grumpiness (to you also Tam), I am incredibly irritable these days; the lockdown is getting to all of us and it just really pees me off when people apply concern about a protocol such as passports but didn’t apply the same vigorous concern when our actual freedoms were taken away. The proportions are way out of whack.
Yeah of course the NHS was the issue, did lockdowns actually achieve much in this regard? We still don’t really know mostly because the data is faulty and the.consequences are still yet to be realised. More so with this roadmap we were given, so many people thought it was fair & reasonable and even wanted it to be tougher! Utterly ridiculous imo.
Yet for some weird reason, many of those people who felt lockdowns were justified and that the roadmap was reasonable now don’t think that passports are justified?
We were given the longest lockdown AFTER the creation of effective vaccines and hardly anyone batted an eyelid but passports are this big danger.
Ultimately, all I’m trying to say is this: if more people had concerns and/or voiced and raised their already existing concerns about lockdown in the first place last year then we wouldn’t have a situation whereby our freedoms are easily taken and given back.
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Appreciate you’re having a tough time; can very much empathise
I suspect that there will be some people wanting to push back on the proposed rules or passports as they’re also feeling grumpy and worn out by the situation, an entirely understandable reaction. I’ll just restate what I’ve said from the very start; it’s simple supply and demand.
Lockdown as a measure I think does work, would be interested to understand why you think it does not. What reduces the effectiveness of it is doing it at the wrong time and in the wrong way, which I think everyone here would agree with.
posted on 4/4/21
comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by 4zA (U22472)
posted 7 minutes ago
whut they rioting about?
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Plus, thin crust pizza.
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Good cause to riot about. Deep Pan or Chicago style is an abomination.
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correct
posted on 4/4/21
U.K. -
2,297 new cases
10 new deaths
That’s so low, must be lowest since August. Open us up!!!
posted on 4/4/21
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 11 minutes ago
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Appreciate you’re having a tough time; can very much empathise
I suspect that there will be some people wanting to push back on the proposed rules or passports as they’re also feeling grumpy and worn out by the situation, an entirely understandable reaction. I’ll just restate what I’ve said from the very start; it’s simple supply and demand.
Lockdown as a measure I think does work, would be interested to understand why you think it does not. What reduces the effectiveness of it is doing it at the wrong time and in the wrong way, which I think everyone here would agree with.
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Work or don’t work is far too binary.
How well do they work? Do they reduce ICU / hospital covid admissions by 1%? 5%?25%?50%? We don’t have the first clue if we’re honest about it.
People will jump to the correlation of lockdowns and reduction in cases but ignore the summer months from last year? If lockdowns are so effective that they’re worth the undeniable and horrendous cost, then why did we have such low numbers from May-September with no lockdown? Why have there been similar results in areas with completely different approaches? There are no answers to these questions which satisfactorily explain why we were so easily and quickly accepting of such a course of action.
The point is that none of this was properly discussed, many who tried to question this lockdown narrative of support were slimed and ridiculed and now people want to make what is essentially the same point: that restrictive measures (passports) aren’t worth it for the cost. Yet they were happy to accept lockdown with no evidence and worse yet without even asking for or demanding evidence.
This isn’t a controversial set of questions or observations, the same thing happened with the Iraq War and Brexit to a lesser extent but at least there was a genuine opposition with Brexit.
posted on 4/4/21
The first lockdown despite setting the trend, was in my opinion somewhat understandable. We had very little info to go on and people naturally panic. But to be given a longer lockdown after the production of effective vaccines was ridiculous and far too many people just accepted it and these passports are one of the consequences of the lack of opposition.
posted on 4/4/21
comment by 4zA (U22472)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by 4zA (U22472)
posted 7 minutes ago
whut they rioting about?
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Plus, thin crust pizza.
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Good cause to riot about. Deep Pan or Chicago style is an abomination.
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correct
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Concur
posted on 4/4/21
Calzone ya friggin peasants.
posted on 4/4/21
Biden unveiling his $2TRILLION jobs initiative, infrastructral like roads, care homes, broadband, R+D, affordable housing..
And he's going to pay for it by rolling back a bit of trumps tax cut for billionaires.
Ending subsidies for fossil fuel corporations.
Hammering anyone that deals in America and uses foreign tax havens.
This is on top of his pandemic relief spending of $1.4TRILLION. Talk about speculating to accumulate!!
Yeah but laptops will bring him down!
posted on 4/4/21
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 2 minutes ago
Calzone ya friggin peasants.
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calzone r literally 4 pesants
posted on 4/4/21
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 11 minutes ago
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Appreciate you’re having a tough time; can very much empathise
I suspect that there will be some people wanting to push back on the proposed rules or passports as they’re also feeling grumpy and worn out by the situation, an entirely understandable reaction. I’ll just restate what I’ve said from the very start; it’s simple supply and demand.
Lockdown as a measure I think does work, would be interested to understand why you think it does not. What reduces the effectiveness of it is doing it at the wrong time and in the wrong way, which I think everyone here would agree with.
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Work or don’t work is far too binary.
How well do they work? Do they reduce ICU / hospital covid admissions by 1%? 5%?25%?50%? We don’t have the first clue if we’re honest about it.
People will jump to the correlation of lockdowns and reduction in cases but ignore the summer months from last year? If lockdowns are so effective that they’re worth the undeniable and horrendous cost, then why did we have such low numbers from May-September with no lockdown? Why have there been similar results in areas with completely different approaches? There are no answers to these questions which satisfactorily explain why we were so easily and quickly accepting of such a course of action.
The point is that none of this was properly discussed, many who tried to question this lockdown narrative of support were slimed and ridiculed and now people want to make what is essentially the same point: that restrictive measures (passports) aren’t worth it for the cost. Yet they were happy to accept lockdown with no evidence and worse yet without even asking for or demanding evidence.
This isn’t a controversial set of questions or observations, the same thing happened with the Iraq War and Brexit to a lesser extent but at least there was a genuine opposition with Brexit.
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There was a reasonable amount of analysis into the extent of the effectiveness of lockdown measures no? Admittedly I may be more data engaged than others but saw a great deal on the impact lockdowns had on the extent of social interaction and thus droplet transmission.
So information is never going to be perfect; even with global data pools you’re still going to have quirks or limitations in it. I know we discussed some of the underlying reasons for potential “quirks” in outcomes as a result of behavioural changes (so for example self enforcing lockdown measures) so don’t necessarily want to go over that again.
Personally my issue with certain lockdown sceptics was that they were employing bad science and even a little digging showed clear biases present in many of them which undermined their position. I am intrigued; do you perceive that the scientists at SAGE are lockdown fanatics, or that their proposals, and indeed those from other bodies such as the actuarial response group, are ideologically as opposed to scientifically driven?
posted on 4/4/21
comment by 4zA (U22472)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 2 minutes ago
Calzone ya friggin peasants.
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calzone r literally 4 pesants
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Animale!
posted on 4/4/21
comment by 4zA (U22472)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
whut they rioting about?
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The DUP encouraged them to mask their sheer incompetence, which brought about the NI protocol they are so unhappy about. When the DUP told their followers to vote for Brexit they had hoped for a fantasy. Reality hurts, it hurts their followers. They were warned but wouldn't listen. It was all self harm. They should own it. But no "look over there, something something ra" and the sheep follow 🐑
posted on 4/4/21
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