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posted on 3/11/17

Excellent article. Too many people thinking we have a god given right to be in the top 6, and if were not then the manager should go. To say we are half way up the table and only a couple of points off the play offs, I think, is a great achievement after last years disaster.

posted on 3/11/17

At the risk of butting in, I don't think this is a problem that manifests from the Fawaz regime but rather is symptomatic of the modern society.

People have always wanted more; it's who we are. The difference is in the modern, throwaway society that we no longer have to wait, save, and earn most of the things in our lives; credit is ruinously available, everyone wants every mod con like smartphones and Sky TV and most things are disposable. Apart from a car, what was the last thing you had repaired?

It used to be that we repaired most of our possessions but nowadays it is easier to replace. The majority of football fans are of the modern era, and certainly the totality of people commenting online are, and they're/we're a generation who are used to gettig what they want, when they want it. We are no longer patient, we don't know how to deal with a failure to deliver, and it results in frustration that would never have been generated in decades past.

The dissent and criticism is all from that generation of fans, probably swelled in some part by the less mentally capable of the older generation too. It's society's problem, not Nottingham Forest's, and Fawaz merely reacted to that situation rather than created it.

posted on 3/11/17

You've accidentally swallowed a sensible pill 666?

posted on 3/11/17

When I typed "..less mentally capable.." I should perhaps have been clearer that I wasn't specifically summoning you, RBF

posted on 3/11/17

RBF who is that then?

posted on 3/11/17





Touche.

posted on 3/11/17

A very well written piece. And 666's reply was equally astute.

It is true that today's society is one of instant gratification, but, like many others, I just sift through the naysayers without a second thought. Maybe I should pay more attention to them, save their negative comments and use it as ammunition to throw at them when their negativity blows up in their faces.

There again, I like to feel that am bigger than that...

posted on 3/11/17

Top article, will 👍

And top comment 666.

From what I’ve seen it’s part denial that forest just aren’t anywhere near contention.

A lot of fans can’t swallow not being in the mix. A lot of people’s reference point for how good forest are is the billy era no1, not the multiple near misses we’ve had with relegation since. And with our good start and our hovering round the play offs only justifies it in people’s eyes.

People see progress as ‘being in the mix’ and success as promotion. Not only is it unrealistic, it’s counter-productive, and it completely overlooks any progress we make on the field.

Right now it’s the scathing stuff about smith and Worral as they do cost points every now and then, but they are completely oblivious to the bigger picture in season we aren’t going anywhere. By the end of this season they’ll be quality homegrown regulars.

posted on 3/11/17

Good points 666. Thinking just in terms of recent events at Forest, though, under Al Hasawi there was never a more direct route to the owner than his damned twitter account. He was very much the emperor who wanted to please his subjects and would react to those who shouted loudest and and make increasingly erratic decisions as the clamour increased. In terms of the here and now, I think the writer is trying to suggest that people get it into their heads that the new owners (at the moment...) are being very realistic and seem to understand that the good ship NFFC is still very unstable and could capsize if too many waves are created. They are suggesting that we move quickly away from the behaviours that caused the Al Hasawi regime to be so unstable and rotten.

posted on 3/11/17

The recent suggestion that Warburton should be under pressure shoes how ludicrous things could easily become. Of course, constant media scrutiny and a need to fill column inches and blog space cranks it all up to unrealistic proportions.

I am enjoying the refreshing understated approach of the new regime, who appear to recognise the dangers of repeating the many mistakes made by Al Hasawi by reacting to every comment made the average cyberspace nutter.

posted on 3/11/17

I’m also enjoying the fact that people with the correct attributes and experience are now occupying the important positions at the CG, hopefully minimising the risks of daft and avoidable mistakes being made.

The engagement with fans and former players, for example, is to be applauded and is such a contrast from the stories of Al Hasawi lackies infesting the boardroom on match days making everyone feel unwelcome.

posted on 3/11/17

I’d hate to see all this jeopardised by a few loud mouth “fans” who have got ahead of themselves. I’m hoping the new regime and Warburton stick to their guns and keep believing in what they are creating. I feel Forest’s long term prospects rely heavily on it.

posted on 3/11/17

The games they play, and the mistakes they make this season will help make Smith and Worrall very good players next season and hopefully many seasons after that.

posted on 4/11/17

Definitely. Worrall is already much improved from last season. Smith has a steely resolve about him that will stand him in good stead.

posted on 4/11/17

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posted on 4/11/17

Great result from the lads today, really showing that they are coming together as a team.

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