Agreed, since the thai takeover, people have just expected us to win and be generally brilliant. We need to drop the expectancy and appreciate every point we get. As I've said before, I don't always agree with what Sven does but he has my full backing whilst the owners do.

Looking at the last 6 games we've won 2, drawn 2, lost 2 thats not bad at all, granted its not promotion winning but the only way is up with the squad we have.

the moaning is doing my head in.

The 'Sven out' nonsense is absolutely ridiculous and to be fair I don't really think any of it has come from our own supporters. It'd be extremely irrational for the owners to have given Sven all the money they did over the summer then to sack him before he had any chance to sort our problems out, and they don't strike me as the irrational types.

That said, Sven will have to demonstrate a capacity to accept and learn from his mistakes and pretty soon too if we're to get anywhere this year. The 4-3-3 system clearly isn't working and frankly it doesn't matter how good our players are we won't get anywhere near promotion as long as he persists with it. He has shown some evidence of appreciating this in recent weeks, but it's time for him to take the leap of faith and drop it altogether. I can understand why he has tried to persist with it - when deployed properly it's a very effective and fluid system. But perhaps he needs to appreciate that, in this division, you're best just to keep it relatively simple like QPR did last year.

theres been a lot of talk and hype over the diamond 442 recently, in articles and interviews with players and Sven, so I think this is what he is hoping to take forward but I guess we'll see on Saturday

I'm no tactical expert Blackpool, which is why I didn't put forward an alternative to the current system. I'm sure Sven knows better than me! Even I can see, however, that whatever we're doing at the moment isn't working and every time Sven's moved away from the 4-3-3 we've played much better. I do trust him to get it right, I just hope he does so soon.

yeah I agree

'4 months ago Sven was god and could do no wrong.'

That's not true, plenty of people have questioned some of the things he did last season. People are always going to moan when the team is playing badly and even more so when expectation are this high. I think it's fair enough when we have seen what we've seen so far. I really don't know why it annoys you so much since the main criticisms of Sven are valid.

What does my head in is people making out there's nothing to be concerned about and that Sven is undoubtedly going to succeed. I'm not saying that's you, but there are many of those deluded people. This does my head in because it's nonsense, and is only seen as acceptable because it's not negative nonsense. If anyone who was questioning Sven was that selective and wide of the mark with their points they would be slated to high heaven.

How many people have actually called for Sven to go, considering the same Cov fan made about 3 articles saying that and pretending he was a Leicester fan? I'd suggest not many at all. And the rest of it - the criticism about his lack of taactical and organisational skills - is quite fair.

I'm absolutely with Madness and Emilio.

Substitute "moaning" for "frustrated" and you will get closer to the true feelings of the fans.

There are enough of us who can see that Sven's tactics have not worked at this level but I think this argument about only having had a few games is absolute baloney ! I will accept that these players must have time to gel but this system did not gel last year.

Yes, we scored a lot of goals but we conceded too many and to the wrong teams. Sven's tactics put us in 10th spot last year and unless he wakes up and smells the coffee, I can't personally see us doing much better this year.

So no, we are not happy and yes, we believe we should be aspiring to greater things. But frankly, it ain't going to happen if he keeps on doing the same things week after week.

Ahhhhhh, it wouldn't be a Leicester forum without the stop moaning debate.

Tomorrow, we'll revert back to the booing vs not booing debate!!!

I'm with the guys above. On the old 606 there use to be quite a lot of knee jerk reactions, moaning an silly posts. On here I've found it more frustration, and there's been some really good debate around the what, why's and how we can improve.

No genuine poster has calle for Sven's head.

Granted that we finished in 10th spot last year.

That team was largely made up of loan players - who you could argue weren't bothered either way, cause they were still going back to prem clubs at the end of the season.


4-3-3 - no-one was questioning it just after christmas, when we went on our long unbeaten run, were playing well, and winning games - With Sven in charge.

4-3-3- works. It always has, and always will. I accept, it may not be the best formation for us to play with the players we have - in fact, I agree, it's not.

But it's not a bad formation in general. Just our players don't fit in to it.

My point was simply that I'm fed up of all the negativity surrounding the club. We have rich owners, one of the best man managers in the world, great plans for the future, and a brilliant squad on paper.

Surely some of you would have joined a team - be it football, rugby, hockey, or any other sport - and after 6 games still not quite sure what your team mates were going to do.

Now imagine that the entire team had never played together before, and everyone is learning what the other 10 player on the pitch will do with the ball.

It's not easy, but i'm confident we'll get there by the end of the season.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not slating people on here, cause lets be honest, we're a minority of leicester fans!!

I have heard quite a few of our fans (not on the board) slating Sven, slating the club and calling for Sven's head.

Leeds fan in peace.

ha you think your board is bad(no i don't mean Ken Bates) you should see ours for moaning!
The problem it seems from an outside perspective is that you've pretty much replaced the whole team over the summer!
But thats Sven's style spend money!
you had a pretty decent team by the end of last season and would have made play offs if it wasn't for your poor start, so i find it confusing that he's bought so many players in! Yes positions need strengthening but nearly all of them! Unfortunatly thats what happens when you get a chairman who are willing to splash out!
I have a couple of mates that are worried because that if you don't get promoted then you'll be in a bit of trouble financially! I'm guessing a few on here think that too!

"I have a couple of mates that are worried because that if you don't get promoted then you'll be in a bit of trouble financially!"

Debatable. If the owners were to leave, then the wage bill being as high as it is would be unmanageable. But I don't think it's for certain (or even necessarily likely) that they would leave should we not get promoted. Sven is another matter.

It's not a great position to be in, and the wages are definitely the issue. It's not that I think the Thais aren't to be trusted, but to be highly indebted to anyone is a potential problem waiting to happen. (See the world economy for instance.) Of course, as long as we reach the Premiership and/or the Thais continue in the honourable and excellent way in which they have thus far, there's no problem...

But anyway, I fear I'm veering toward moaning, which would be bitterly ironic given the focus of the article.

"you had a pretty decent team by the end of last season and would have made play offs if it wasn't for your poor start"

A lot of our first teamers were loanees last season, but for the players which were ours I totally agree with this statement.

Absolutely agree with Cantlebabes' opening proposition. There is far too much moaning, and too many reckless calls for Sven's head.

Good to have a sensible Leeds fan in the thread. I'm not sure it was our bad start which alone explains our faltering last season: from March onwards we played too poorly too often, and so faded badly. Until then we were on course for the play-offs. I don't subscribe to the view that it was the fault of the loanees', either. What wouldn't we give for Naughton today...?

Are we exposed, financially? Sure we are, and its always going to be a background anxiety until we arrive in the promised land. But I don't sense that our owners are fickle enough to walk away after only a year or even two. Time will tell....

malling - I wasn't saying the loanees were at fault, I was just making the point that it was always going to be difficult to retain the team we had last season because we had so many on loan which weren't going to be here this season.

Agreed, BF - my issue was really with Cantlebabe's suggestion that our loan players perhaps weren't bothered about where we finished last season, as they were anyway going back to their premiership clubs. I myself didn't see evidence of that in the way any of them played. Did anyone, really...?

Malling - No, not especially, but then I'd never really seen any of the players play before they joined us - bar Yakubu, so am not aware of their playing style.

I'd not saying it was a conscious decision to play poorly, because obviously it wasn't, but perhaps if they were playing for their own future, knowing that if they'd got us promoted they were due a big wage rise, and the other benefits coming with promotion, they may have put in 110% instead of 100?