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comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 17 hours, 31 minutes ago
Hey mate,

My last comment wasn't meant to be directed at you and how you post/engage with others. Sorry if it came across that way. It really was more of an introspective comment.

I ended up filtering Sizzle last week. Now half the thread comes up as "filtered comment", often 4-5-6 in a row hehehe. I still see his comments when someone hits the "reply" button but it's a damn sight better.

I've got into some arguments with him and tried to call him out on a number of his comments but he doesn't actually care or take on anything I or pretty much anyone else says.

One definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different response. I'm not going to get one so better try to avoid even seeing his crap.

I wonder if enough people on that thread filtered him or just ignored him by never responding to anything he says, whether he'd get bored and feck off? No way to get others on board but would make for an interesting experiment.

As for Redin, other than me posting about his hypocritical actions of ridiculing your for holding a grudge while he holds grudges as well (I couldn't help myself), I don't engage with him at all. Him and a couple of others are truly so blinded by hate on one topic that it is impossible to debate anything about it with him.

I fully understand why you do and fair play for trying to balance the debate. Sadly, most of us are so set in our ways and beliefs that there's little scope for anyone to change their mind or even learn from those with differing opinions.

I've learned from others on there, yourself included, at times but I think to date, you're pretty much the only person I've seen actually acknowledge that they had changed their opinion (your thoughts on Brexit). I'm so disappointed in some of the Remain guys on this. They could have fostered an inclusive situation with you but they tend to just mock you for changing your mind. Staggering!

Just further validates the view that the partisanship of politics is so deeply entrenched that debate is dead, rendering the whole thread futile.

I think I'll just edge away slowly from that thread and leave it to the rest of you guys.
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No need to apologise, and guys such as you influence my thinking and posting, because I have been at this for years and do get into it with the few, "haters" you refer to....and in the past with some a bit too soft on daesh, Islamist extremism and fundamentalism!

Thanks for noticing my brexit reflection, when the remainers were too busy calling me names, lecturing and being snide, even when I was posting with wwspd and saying I largely agreed with much of his analysis, he still adopted an arrogant, patronising persona😏. I expect that attitude from some, but as you alluded to, political debate and civil discourse are dead on social media especially!

My wife is a very easy going working class Catholic and voted brexit for a few reasons, one of them being the condescending and insulting nature of elements in the "remain elite".

Guys in remain despise almost half the uk population and have the nerve to mock the working class voters, from a so called left wing Labour party narrative, thus behaving as badly as the posh tory boys they condemn, who also mock the plebs.....in your words, Staggering👍

I have swerved the Election Thread recently, partly based on your observation of partisan negativity, but also due to the insane and tribal abuse being hurled on any old topic......it looks like angry macho blokes getting drunk and shouty now, with little to no actual thought, compromise or human decency/manners.

Like your goodself, I will leave them to it, but I admit if certain guys i quite like are getting abused or ganged up on,,I will pop on.....what a guy I am, eh😀😀

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My serotonin level is shot from esctacy in the nineties, 😁and I realise booze is a downer, but drinking coffee and coke can be so boring......just on beer and no red wine or spirits as I used to cane those bad boys.

From my teens I have felt a sadness or melancholy,which led to me going through my born again phase, and in past ten years, losing family, friends and money dragged me down further, plus ageing sucks, imo!

Recently, I failed to get a promotion, our team at work sp!it up and we are training for a new benefit.Then we went on ho!iday and the weather was crap,,I got a tooth abcess on hols and on return just felt summer was over...

Next, a good friends mum died abroad and mum in law fell fracturing her hip and breaking her arm.

I know self pity is at play, and I should be able to use mindfulness, counselling and even prayer, but I have been waking up, lying awake for hours and worrying about life, death, money and family.

Hooefully, just a blip, but I gave up Vensor earlier this year, and can go back on them.

I can see the stress taking its toll on my wife too,,as she has been on anti-depressants for a decade now, and I fear my daughter inheriting our low mood.

Life, eh😊

Glad you are seeing some football while in blighty, and Chelsea seem ok......also impressed with Rangers under Stevie G, and bring on Celtic on Sunday.....your mum was from bluenose stock, right?

Thanks for caring, Dave, and if I can ever return the favour, let me know👍


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TBAB,

Irrespective of drugs and booze in the past, I more than dabbled in my stereotypical halcyon days too, sounds like the last few months have been heavy on you and your family.

Really sorry to hear that. Some say that stress is cumulative. Having big stressors in family with major accidents and deaths is big, work losses in a team and missing a promotion are big, then immediate family issues are big. All together, it's a recipe for a breakdown or a reoccurrence of a mental health issue.

It's easy to say not to self-pity or to use mindfulness or prayer. These can, and do work well at various times. When you've got just one issue on your plate they can be enough to get over the problems, when you've a trifecta, you've gotta try and reach out for a bit of help from family, friends or Drs in my opinion.

I tend to be the go-to person in my family and work/friends to talk about problems and dramas. It's good to help others but it makes me bad at reaching out for help when I need it. Sounds like that applies to you too.

I have a really bad sleeping habit, and usually don't need more than 4-5 hrs a night. When I get even less, it's a sure sign my mental health is or will be suffering. If you aren't sleeping well and laying there all night worrying, you're going to get down. One or two nights, maybe don't worry, but if it's still happening for a week or two, night after night, please consider going back on the meds after seeing a dr.

I'd even suggest something like Oxazepam for a temporary option if you're not keen on the Vensir. It helps with mild anxiety and also insomnia. Sometimes just getting a few good night's sleep can be a good circuit breaker to prevent a downward spiral.

I've been reading some interesting research into depression around the idea that sleep and mental health are more strongly linked than just causally related. I think in the past people thought lack of sleep was just caused by the worry associated with depression, however there's now talk that lack of sleep can be a cause as much as a symptom.

Anyway, I've probably written enough to bore you to sleep now, so will stop.

We don't always see eye to eye, but I can tell you're a good-hearted dude. Take care of yourself and you'll be better able to look after everyone else in your life.
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Really kind of you to offer such advice, from experience and knowledge, as I am suffering awful sleepless nights, at a time when I am supposed to be training for new work, and when I have to be there for my wife, whose mum was in surgery on Saturday morning,,when I was at my mates mum's funeral, after she passed away on holiday.
Then yesterday my daughter got her junior ju jitzu black belt, aged ten, and I was so tired at the two hour grading, I could hardly celebrate with her😟

Booked a doctor visit this week on your say so and my exhaustion, so may pop some oxy😳

I was the go-to guy for problems, like yourself, and did not reach out or talk about my own mental issues....I refused to cry or break when my dad died, and when friends and my wifes family passed, as I needed to be strong for others, and four years ago when I opened up for a counsellor she was shocked at how I kept going.....til I could not do so.

I was full of anger and got into it with road rage drivers and fools with dogs terrifying my daughter....then I just went numb and quiet, just flat lining.

Before I go back there, I am going for professional help and happy pills, so cheers for giving a toss, brother👍

Also let admin know I am bowing out for a bit, or not getting abused n to it with my "chums" as he was expressing his frustrating with the rivalry from new and existing posters.....so every little helps him, with one less loon😀

Thanks again Dave, and chat soon.

And as I said a day or two ago, if I can ever help you, just ask and we can chat away.Most of the time, I am a stable, reliable and funny guy😉

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comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 47 seconds ago
Hey mate,

I read these as I saw your Election comments. I was just being a cheekywith the smiley responses as I knew a certain someone would be jumping right on it.

It's an intelligent decision on your behalf. I've backed right off too and will likely follow suit.

Keep in touch on here if you want, mate and I'll respond to your latest replies in the next day or two. I've been up again for 24 hrs and should try to get some sleep.
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I like cheeky😉

Always putting my foot in it when I should be sensitive and thoughful😀

Get some zzzzzzzz's and enjoy whatever you are doing at present!

Chat soon.

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comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 4 minutes ago
Hey TBAB,

Hope you and your family are well. Crazy finish to the CHE-UTD match over the weekend.

I requested Admin to remove the Politics thread from my feed to lessen my inclination to comment on it. It has become so acrimonious, well, even more acrimonious is a better description.

I guess I'll have an occasional sticky beak to see if there's anything worth a read but intend not to partake in the shenanigans.

Good luck on there. Saw you have been described as the worst poster on the thread and a poisonous eel!


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Can I get a link to this?

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comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 12 minutes ago
Hey TBAB,

Hope you and your family are well. Crazy finish to the CHE-UTD match over the weekend.

I requested Admin to remove the Politics thread from my feed to lessen my inclination to comment on it. It has become so acrimonious, well, even more acrimonious is a better description.

I guess I'll have an occasional sticky beak to see if there's anything worth a read but intend not to partake in the shenanigans.

Good luck on there. Saw you have been described as the worst poster on the thread and a poisonous eel!


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Worst poster on the thread?

That sounds like a challenge

comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 6 minutes ago
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewLiveArticle/310416

80,000+ comments to read through

Good luck!
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Jesus

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comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 22 hours, 35 minutes ago
Mr. Jukebox, the real challenge is to be the recipient of both worst poster AND poisonous eel in the one comment!

Incidentally, TBAB may well be a poisonous eel, but he's FAR from the worst poster on that thread. There's a fella that has been banned a couple of times who gets my vote for worst poster on the whole site.
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Haha...what do you mean I may be a poisonous eel?😀

Bloody snowflakes on that site need to wise up as they give it out daily, expecting everyone to be a against brexit, unionism, Israel, christianity, populism, etc.c

Best bit was insert complaining about debating standards after calling me a lying, incoherent, poisonous eel who is the worst poster on the whole thread, lol😳

Thought only Americans missed irony!

comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 22 hours, 59 minutes ago
Hey TBAB,

Hope you and your family are well. Crazy finish to the CHE-UTD match over the weekend.

I requested Admin to remove the Politics thread from my feed to lessen my inclination to comment on it. It has become so acrimonious, well, even more acrimonious is a better description.

I guess I'll have an occasional sticky beak to see if there's anything worth a read but intend not to partake in the shenanigans.

Good luck on there. Saw you have been described as the worst poster on the thread and a poisonous eel!


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Poisonous eel here, from Lough Neagh Surrender😜

Family all good and yea, that was a Fergie time finish by Chelsea.

You are wise to get away from that thread, but am there for the long haul buddy......been figting, arguing, debating and protesting against some of the views there from the age of fifteen.😎

Not saying I am right all the time, but with guys such as sizzle,,red in and hector holding shop there most days, we need some balance.

Insert and wwspd are also fair game when they go all patronising pwick, and I never did like arrogant folk trying to talk down to others, especially when they are often very dogmatic and narrow minded on occasion.

All good fun and keeps me on my toes.

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posted 23 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 4 minutes ago
Hey TBAB,

Hope you and your family are well. Crazy finish to the CHE-UTD match over the weekend.

I requested Admin to remove the Politics thread from my feed to lessen my inclination to comment on it. It has become so acrimonious, well, even more acrimonious is a better description.

I guess I'll have an occasional sticky beak to see if there's anything worth a read but intend not to partake in the shenanigans.

Good luck on there. Saw you have been described as the worst poster on the thread and a poisonous eel!


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Can I get a link to this?
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Get you on the thread and enjoy👍

comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 22 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 12 minutes ago
Hey TBAB,

Hope you and your family are well. Crazy finish to the CHE-UTD match over the weekend.

I requested Admin to remove the Politics thread from my feed to lessen my inclination to comment on it. It has become so acrimonious, well, even more acrimonious is a better description.

I guess I'll have an occasional sticky beak to see if there's anything worth a read but intend not to partake in the shenanigans.

Good luck on there. Saw you have been described as the worst poster on the thread and a poisonous eel!


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Worst poster on the thread?

That sounds like a challenge
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Get you on too, juke bhoy!👍

Ola Dave.

Took a while to find this old thread as I post so much drivel.

Appreciate the heads up on the meds and will come off slower than doc advised.

I am feeling ok these days, although i realise it would not appear so at times on a certain thread.

It is hard to explain, but as ging found out again today, or Ivan on Scotland today, a few posters do like to stir it and either be pedantic, contrary or a smarterse, imo.

This is partially why I kick off and a the only dup loyalist God bothering leave voter there, you can imagine what it is like with a thread often dominated by quite hardline republican, socialist remainers who detest people like me.

That is not a victim mentality, but through experience of holding such views as I do and coming from where I do.

At uni and most of my work life I hsve been in the minority....you know he score in 2019 saying you believe in God, for example.

Instant looks of horror, pity and disdain.🙏🙂

Mixed with my politics and faith I hsve always had a melancholy from late teens when I was so fed up I became born again to find meaning in life....And purpose.

In the past ten years my wife and I hsve lost parents and family and friends..some to cancer and crashes and illness.My wife has been on happy pills for over a decade and when I started going down a dark road five years ago, she advised me to get meds....as did folk at work, after counselling and GP guidance.

I have a flick switch temper at times and largely control it, but 5 years ago I was fighting and threatening with guys whose dog scared my daughter, or who pulled out on me in a car or anyone who crossed me....And recently that has come back to an extent.

Could be beer related too but am not going at it like ten years ago so alcohol is no excuse...but I did read vensor and beer are not advocated as medication.

Thing is, like many mentalists, I am often quiet, chilled shy and friendly, but still waters run deep, and flick the wrong switch with me and I can go a different path.

I used to just get dark moods and try to run or cycle it off, or do mindfulness, but through my own stupidity, I get into arguments with family or random posters or a boss at work.

I cannot back down and hsve ignored family members for years at a time if we cross words....

I am not a hard man and rather have a reputation as a madman or nutter, if pushed and so when you see folk having a snide dig at me or calling me a thick racist or whatever, I accept the challenge.

I know I should ditch this place and it is the only social media drug I do, being a technophobe, well this and BBC have your say and letters to papers lol.

When I see you and npe argue, or Just Shoot or ging get it right I will speak up, and try to call it or take the heat off......And if you knew me years ago compared to know, 2019 is my year of being a dove, Not a hawk.

I was pretty extreme on the Ulster Protestant and loyalist and British nationalist front.

This is the filtered version and yet still I am often seen as far right loon.....among many of my peers and associates in the past, I would be a traitor...or Lundy for going soft.

Anyway, I hsve rambled enough and will take your advice and talk to another doc soon

And I will just ignore those who drag me down....whenever they appear.

I know you said we hsve an apolitical chat here, but as you see, for forty years it has often defined who I am and why I am here.

More madness to deal with.
🙂

After all that, if it makes any sense at all, I am fairly strong mentally and physically and spiritually, so I can and will look after all aspects of my health and that of my family and friends.

Peace and God bless, Dave.

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Dave.

Sorry you lost those posts as I love reading your thoughts and advise

Am all good and not bothering much with social media in the political sphere, as I know we are all too entrenched nowadays and want to see the bad in each other....or to destroy the dissenter and free thinker.

Group think and seeking offence has replaced academic debate and intellectual argument.....was that Jonathan Haidt I just regurgitated??.😉😉

There are people twisting words in political discussion too and this lowers the tone and then clowns such as yours truly go Tonto and things go further downhill, so I am not playing anymore to a large extent and taking my ball back.

Mind wise, I am ok and accept that family and work and people will just have to be what they are, as I cannot always help, change or ignore their problems and weaknesses.

Down in deepest Ireland on a holiday and folk here are kind, calm and chilled and when I was down 5 years ago I found the Cork rural life do peaceful.

Country lanes to run, lovely wee Anglican church of Ireland to attend, nice pubs and great food, warmer weather for the beach and superb roads to get the V8 Porsche lit up.

All cool Dave.

The politics thread has been a poison at times and although there was and may be a certain political narrative dominating with little dissent or leave- unionist- libertarian- Christian input, so be it.

I have done my time past 4 decades and am on vacation.

NPE and just shoot and Paul etc can Hodor/Hold The Door.😉

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comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 13 hours, 22 minutes ago
Sorry again. I'd written a lot about mental health drugs and effects of alcohol on brain neurotransmitters. I'm struggling with work-life balance just at the moment and can feel myself getting really snappy at others so had avoided all of ja, not just politics for a couple of weeks.

Sounds like your holiday is going well and you're in a very pleasant place. So envious of a Porsche to tear around in (safely of course). I have a great little mountain (more hills than mountain) range about 20 mins from my place. I used to to have such a blast on my 500cc Suzi up and along the range. Seriously good fun! You need to come to the Sunshine Coast for your next holiday. Might be a bit far but worth it.
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Did not know you were into blokes too.....as well as cars.

I have a 1997 Honda CBR 600f and it it mint...fast and retro beautiful.😎

Would love to travel more bud, but money matters get in the way....can we sleep on your floor😍

This part of cork gives me mental and spiritual peace, as I can walk for miles and just chill with nature

Spent yesterday on the beach and today was pure sun, so am tantastic.

Your work life balance needs fixing if you can, and you are wise to avoid social media when under pressure.At times, we just have to work so I hope you get the busy out of the way and back to chilled Dave.

Chat soon mate.

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comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 13 hours, 22 minutes ago
Sorry again. I'd written a lot about mental health drugs and effects of alcohol on brain neurotransmitters. I'm struggling with work-life balance just at the moment and can feel myself getting really snappy at others so had avoided all of ja, not just politics for a couple of weeks.

Sounds like your holiday is going well and you're in a very pleasant place. So envious of a Porsche to tear around in (safely of course). I have a great little mountain (more hills than mountain) range about 20 mins from my place. I used to to have such a blast on my 500cc Suzi up and along the range. Seriously good fun! You need to come to the Sunshine Coast for your next holiday. Might be a bit far but worth it.
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Did not know you were into blokes too.....as well as cars.

I have a 1997 Honda CBR 600f and it it mint...fast and retro beautiful.😎

Would love to travel more bud, but money matters get in the way....can we sleep on your floor😍

This part of cork gives me mental and spiritual peace, as I can walk for miles and just chill with nature

Spent yesterday on the beach and today was pure sun, so am tantastic.

Your work life balance needs fixing if you can, and you are wise to avoid social media when under pressure.At times, we just have to work so I hope you get the busy out of the way and back to chilled Dave.

Chat soon mate.

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Aww ffs...into bikes too.
😍😍😍😍🍭🍭🍭🍭🍭

If you are into blokes too.....
😍😍😍🍭🍭🍭🍭🍭

What a plonker.

Shame Dave isn't still around for this thread

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Shame Dave isn't still around for this thread
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Agreed.

Hola Lex, 👍

If you look in, enjoy the read and take care, pal.