he just not cut out for the PL. He needs that extra second with the ball to do what he does best. Back to Germany i think for him.
the problem aint the player
Na, guve himore time. Pogba was crap for quite a few games last season, but looks better now having got more time. I suspect miki just needs his mojo, not sure he'll get it with mr negative in charge.
He’s “useless” because of your tactics.
Wake up.
Wasn't he getting 2 or 3 assists per game at the start of the season. Mourinho is likely the culprit behind his dip in form and confidence, the league has nothing to do with it. Bundesliga is not an easy league and most similar to the Premier League
comment by mancWoohoo - Maximus Mardius Cob-onius (U10676)
posted 1 minute ago
He’s “useless” because of your tactics.
Wake up.
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This.
Dortmund have quite a few players who have left and gone back to them as failures. Kagawa, Goetze, Sahin off the top of my head. Miki could well be the next.
Our style of play is nothing like theirs. Not shocked kagawa and Miki haven't worked.
Have to agree with some of the comments. Our tactics don't get the best of out of our attacking players.
Put him in any of the other top 6 teams and he'd probably be a different player.
The lad is shot of confidence. And the style of play from the manager has negated his natural attacking instincts.
Some players cope better than he does at this, but other sadly don't - like him.
He's come to one of the biggest clubs in the world. An offer too good to turn down, but he made the decision to come himself. It's such a shame that he hasn't worked out for us as I believe that in another attacking team, he'd flourish.
The formation isn't stopping him from playing a simple pass or not running into about 6 players.
Yeah blaming tactics is just ridiculous. Jesse Lingard is currently playing in his role and doing great. Making good runs, Scoring goals, getting in behind the defence etc.
He's just not that great obviously.
comment by Prem Kings! Back to the summit with Jose and Zlatan! (U7618)
posted 9 minutes ago
The lad is shot of confidence. And the style of play from the manager has negated his natural attacking instincts.
Some players cope better than he does at this, but other sadly don't - like him.
He's come to one of the biggest clubs in the world. An offer too good to turn down, but he made the decision to come himself. It's such a shame that he hasn't worked out for us as I believe that in another attacking team, he'd flourish.
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This. Coaching/tactics/man management is the issue I think.
He's a player that should be comfortable in possession and should be making these simple passes with his eyes shut.
It is a case of confidence completely shot and him not having a great relationship with the manager, Mourinho has singled him out from day one as either being not ready or something else.
The player looks constantly miserable and you get the feeling would rather be anywhere else but United.
He was named Bundesliga's players player of the year only a couple of years or so ago, something's gone wrong somewhere.
comment by Komakino (U7809)
posted 2 minutes ago
He's a player that should be comfortable in possession and should be making these simple passes with his eyes shut.
It is a case of confidence completely shot and him not having a great relationship with the manager, Mourinho has singled him out from day one as either being not ready or something else.
The player looks constantly miserable and you get the feeling would rather be anywhere else but United.
He was named Bundesliga's players player of the year only a couple of years or so ago, something's gone wrong somewhere.
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Yes, it's called the negative one.
He's been absolutely dreadful for a while now. The fact that he's turned misplacing 5 yard passes into an art form is almost morbidly impressive. Almost. I would she'd any tears if we sold him
Better than Coutinho doe.......5 assists in 2 games innit mate!
comment by Komakino (U7809)
posted 28 minutes ago
He's a player that should be comfortable in possession and should be making these simple passes with his eyes shut.
It is a case of confidence completely shot and him not having a great relationship with the manager, Mourinho has singled him out from day one as either being not ready or something else.
The player looks constantly miserable and you get the feeling would rather be anywhere else but United.
He was named Bundesliga's players player of the year only a couple of years or so ago, something's gone wrong somewhere.
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Yet blaming Management and tactics are “ridiculous”. If only some of these people actually go to games.
Man management is a thing......
While it's probably true that Mourinho tactics and so on don't benefit our attacking players anything like Klopp or Pep's systems do, I don't think Mkhitaryan is all that good.
I didn't rate him in his first season with us but, as we know, first seasons can be deceptive. He's actually gotten worse and I simply don't think he's as good as he's been made out to be.
He's not as technically gifted as I thought he would be for starters. Very sloppy with the ball. Often overruns it when carrying it at speed, takes loose touches, passing can be abysmal at times, turns into trouble and is easily brushed off the ball.
He has his moments but simply not enough of them to make up for the other deficiencies. He's also shown himself to be a poor finisher generally. He's missed some big chances in his time for us. Mata is technically far superior and Lingard is more productive and offers a lot more without the ball with his running, movement and work rate.
Toss up between him and Luke Shaw as to who is worse once they get past the half way line.
comment by Kamikaze Blue (U7450)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
the problem aint the player
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Agreed.
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Kamikaze Blue (U7450)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
the problem aint the player
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Agreed.
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Mkhi & Mata could play for Barca or Bayern!
comment by aroon1 (U7949)
posted 15 minutes ago
Toss up between him and Luke Shaw as to who is worse once they get past the half way line.
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Shaw. Its not even close.
Like him.
see he is struggling, but it is fairly understandable when it is understood that players from different types of leagues quite often find the first season in the epl hard. If he stays, next season will be the time to better judge him.
Yes i know there are exceptions
Secondly, he is often not the least effective player out there. Others, that have been there longer, are (or at least should be) ahead of him in the queue for the exit door.
comment by IAmMe (U18491)
posted 12 minutes ago
Like him.
see he is struggling, but it is fairly understandable when it is understood that players from different types of leagues quite often find the first season in the epl hard.
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Shame it's his second season then... (And he's gotten worse).
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posted on 27/12/17
he just not cut out for the PL. He needs that extra second with the ball to do what he does best. Back to Germany i think for him.
posted on 27/12/17
the problem aint the player
posted on 27/12/17
Na, guve himore time. Pogba was crap for quite a few games last season, but looks better now having got more time. I suspect miki just needs his mojo, not sure he'll get it with mr negative in charge.
posted on 27/12/17
He’s “useless” because of your tactics.
Wake up.
posted on 27/12/17
Wasn't he getting 2 or 3 assists per game at the start of the season. Mourinho is likely the culprit behind his dip in form and confidence, the league has nothing to do with it. Bundesliga is not an easy league and most similar to the Premier League
posted on 27/12/17
comment by mancWoohoo - Maximus Mardius Cob-onius (U10676)
posted 1 minute ago
He’s “useless” because of your tactics.
Wake up.
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This.
posted on 27/12/17
Dortmund have quite a few players who have left and gone back to them as failures. Kagawa, Goetze, Sahin off the top of my head. Miki could well be the next.
Our style of play is nothing like theirs. Not shocked kagawa and Miki haven't worked.
posted on 27/12/17
Have to agree with some of the comments. Our tactics don't get the best of out of our attacking players.
Put him in any of the other top 6 teams and he'd probably be a different player.
posted on 27/12/17
The lad is shot of confidence. And the style of play from the manager has negated his natural attacking instincts.
Some players cope better than he does at this, but other sadly don't - like him.
He's come to one of the biggest clubs in the world. An offer too good to turn down, but he made the decision to come himself. It's such a shame that he hasn't worked out for us as I believe that in another attacking team, he'd flourish.
posted on 27/12/17
The formation isn't stopping him from playing a simple pass or not running into about 6 players.
posted on 27/12/17
Yeah blaming tactics is just ridiculous. Jesse Lingard is currently playing in his role and doing great. Making good runs, Scoring goals, getting in behind the defence etc.
He's just not that great obviously.
posted on 27/12/17
comment by Prem Kings! Back to the summit with Jose and Zlatan! (U7618)
posted 9 minutes ago
The lad is shot of confidence. And the style of play from the manager has negated his natural attacking instincts.
Some players cope better than he does at this, but other sadly don't - like him.
He's come to one of the biggest clubs in the world. An offer too good to turn down, but he made the decision to come himself. It's such a shame that he hasn't worked out for us as I believe that in another attacking team, he'd flourish.
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This. Coaching/tactics/man management is the issue I think.
posted on 27/12/17
He's a player that should be comfortable in possession and should be making these simple passes with his eyes shut.
It is a case of confidence completely shot and him not having a great relationship with the manager, Mourinho has singled him out from day one as either being not ready or something else.
The player looks constantly miserable and you get the feeling would rather be anywhere else but United.
He was named Bundesliga's players player of the year only a couple of years or so ago, something's gone wrong somewhere.
posted on 27/12/17
comment by Komakino (U7809)
posted 2 minutes ago
He's a player that should be comfortable in possession and should be making these simple passes with his eyes shut.
It is a case of confidence completely shot and him not having a great relationship with the manager, Mourinho has singled him out from day one as either being not ready or something else.
The player looks constantly miserable and you get the feeling would rather be anywhere else but United.
He was named Bundesliga's players player of the year only a couple of years or so ago, something's gone wrong somewhere.
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Yes, it's called the negative one.
posted on 27/12/17
He's been absolutely dreadful for a while now. The fact that he's turned misplacing 5 yard passes into an art form is almost morbidly impressive. Almost. I would she'd any tears if we sold him
posted on 27/12/17
Better than Coutinho doe.......5 assists in 2 games innit mate!
posted on 27/12/17
comment by Komakino (U7809)
posted 28 minutes ago
He's a player that should be comfortable in possession and should be making these simple passes with his eyes shut.
It is a case of confidence completely shot and him not having a great relationship with the manager, Mourinho has singled him out from day one as either being not ready or something else.
The player looks constantly miserable and you get the feeling would rather be anywhere else but United.
He was named Bundesliga's players player of the year only a couple of years or so ago, something's gone wrong somewhere.
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Yet blaming Management and tactics are “ridiculous”. If only some of these people actually go to games.
posted on 27/12/17
Man management is a thing......
posted on 27/12/17
While it's probably true that Mourinho tactics and so on don't benefit our attacking players anything like Klopp or Pep's systems do, I don't think Mkhitaryan is all that good.
I didn't rate him in his first season with us but, as we know, first seasons can be deceptive. He's actually gotten worse and I simply don't think he's as good as he's been made out to be.
He's not as technically gifted as I thought he would be for starters. Very sloppy with the ball. Often overruns it when carrying it at speed, takes loose touches, passing can be abysmal at times, turns into trouble and is easily brushed off the ball.
He has his moments but simply not enough of them to make up for the other deficiencies. He's also shown himself to be a poor finisher generally. He's missed some big chances in his time for us. Mata is technically far superior and Lingard is more productive and offers a lot more without the ball with his running, movement and work rate.
posted on 27/12/17
Toss up between him and Luke Shaw as to who is worse once they get past the half way line.
posted on 27/12/17
comment by Kamikaze Blue (U7450)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
the problem aint the player
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Agreed.
posted on 27/12/17
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Kamikaze Blue (U7450)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
the problem aint the player
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Agreed.
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Mkhi & Mata could play for Barca or Bayern!
posted on 27/12/17
comment by aroon1 (U7949)
posted 15 minutes ago
Toss up between him and Luke Shaw as to who is worse once they get past the half way line.
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Shaw. Its not even close.
posted on 27/12/17
Like him.
see he is struggling, but it is fairly understandable when it is understood that players from different types of leagues quite often find the first season in the epl hard. If he stays, next season will be the time to better judge him.
Yes i know there are exceptions
Secondly, he is often not the least effective player out there. Others, that have been there longer, are (or at least should be) ahead of him in the queue for the exit door.
posted on 27/12/17
comment by IAmMe (U18491)
posted 12 minutes ago
Like him.
see he is struggling, but it is fairly understandable when it is understood that players from different types of leagues quite often find the first season in the epl hard.
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Shame it's his second season then... (And he's gotten worse).
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