I don't see what the issue is? We were never in for VVD so it's not like they've nicked him from us, Klopp's a hypocrite? Aye, welcome to professional football, Jose's had the nerve to talk about City's spending recently...
Transfer fees are insane now anyway so it's to be expected, he's a good centre-back IMO, Clyne, Matip, VVD, Robertson and a new GK and maybe a proper DM could push Liverpool on again next season?
What that means now is every club Liverpool target to buy a player from now on will take them to the cleaners, knowing they can fork out £75m for a defender.
Klopp`s biggest problem is he doesnt know how to coach a defence, you could give him Maldini, Baresi, Moore and Cafu and his team would still concede too many goals, the art of defending starts at the front and Klopp`s teams leave their defenders far too exposed.
The media however, is awash with former Mousers who will back whatever their beloved Pool do to the hilt, no matter how ridiculous or deluded, the Pool loving media will always continue to put a positive spin on all things Mouse.
Hence why every single Pool manager gets a free ride when others are hammered into the ground.
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 5 minutes ago
I don't see what the issue is? We were never in for VVD so it's not like they've nicked him from us, Klopp's a hypocrite? Aye, welcome to professional football, Jose's had the nerve to talk about City's spending recently...
Transfer fees are insane now anyway so it's to be expected, he's a good centre-back IMO, Clyne, Matip, VVD, Robertson and a new GK and maybe a proper DM could push Liverpool on again next season?
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All of this.
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 50 minutes ago
The reality is this. Klopp has built a team and has roughly broke even.
Jose has spent a quarter of a billion (yes, that’s net)
This obsession with trying to label Klopp a chequebook manager is hilarious. He’ll likely be at a net deficit if we sell Coutinho.
For a manager to get a team back into the CL whilst operating at break even is fantastic.
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Complete nonsense, Klopp now has a positive net spend of around £110m
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comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 50 minutes ago
The reality is this. Klopp has built a team and has roughly broke even.
Jose has spent a quarter of a billion (yes, that’s net)
This obsession with trying to label Klopp a chequebook manager is hilarious. He’ll likely be at a net deficit if we sell Coutinho.
For a manager to get a team back into the CL whilst operating at break even is fantastic.
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Complete nonsense, Klopp now has a positive net spend of around £110m
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Still think net spend is irrelevant unless you're having to sell key players to invest in new ones.
Klopp hasn't had to sell big names to raise money for transfers, neither has Jose etc...
The net spend argument is clutching at straws.
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
comment by LQ (U6305)
posted 2 minutes ago
75 mill though
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Big club pays over the odds for decent player.. .shock.
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And big clubs get called out for it even bigger shock
Klopp hasn't put a single piece of silverware on the table yet. Previous Liverpool managers have found the title to be elusive also but have always done fairly well in the cups.
He seemingly can do no wrong though. Such hypocrites.
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
Klopp hasn't put a single piece of silverware on the table yet. Previous Liverpool managers have found the title to be elusive also but have always done fairly well in the cups.
He seemingly can do no wrong though. Such hypocrites.
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My god you are bitter
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Klopp hasn't put a single piece of silverware on the table yet. Previous Liverpool managers have found the title to be elusive also but have always done fairly well in the cups.
He seemingly can do no wrong though. Such hypocrites.
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Please explain how (and who for that matter) are being hypocritical.
Thanks in advance.
comment by LQ (U6305)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
Klopp hasn't put a single piece of silverware on the table yet. Previous Liverpool managers have found the title to be elusive also but have always done fairly well in the cups.
He seemingly can do no wrong though. Such hypocrites.
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My god you are bitter
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That doesn't make sense
Makes more sense than what you wrote
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Klopp hasn't put a single piece of silverware on the table yet. Previous Liverpool managers have found the title to be elusive also but have always done fairly well in the cups.
He seemingly can do no wrong though. Such hypocrites.
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Please explain how (and who for that matter) are being hypocritical.
Thanks in advance.
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Because Rafa and Rodgers 'had to go' so you could push on yet you are no closer to the title and probably less competitive in the cups also.
If you don't win the FA cup this season or the CL (which is less likely) that will be 3 trophy less seasons for him.
Is that good enough?
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Makes more sense than what you wrote
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No it doesn't. You've won one league cup in 11 years. What have we got to be bitter about with you lot?
City perhaps we do have a reason to be.
Well 8n reality he has been here 26 months, reached two cup finals, improved the leagle position, qualified top of the CL group and the furthest we've been since 2009 and unlike Rodgers and Rafa hasn't been here at least four years.
Other than that a very well thought out post from you again. Kudos.
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 2 hours, 16 minutes ago
This VVD deal is doing some real psychological damage to the feeble minded on this forum.
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its institutionalized sandy.
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Well 8n reality he has been here 26 months, reached two cup finals, improved the leagle position, qualified top of the CL group and the furthest we've been since 2009 and unlike Rodgers and Rafa hasn't been here at least four years.
Other than that a very well thought out post from you again. Kudos.
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Clutching at straws. Rafa and Rodgers both went close to the title and both won something.
You also drew two of the poorest sides ever seen in the CL this season so I wouldn't get too carried away. The only half decent team in your group you didn't beat in either game and they are nowhere near the best side in it.
Right so what you're saying is "Liverpool" (whoever that is) are a hypocrite because they've not called for and indeed sacked Klopp for something that hasn't happened yet?
This is your input to the forum today?
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Well 8n reality he has been here 26 months, reached two cup finals, improved the leagle position, qualified top of the CL group and the furthest we've been since 2009 and unlike Rodgers and Rafa hasn't been here at least four years.
Other than that a very well thought out post from you again. Kudos.
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Clutching at straws. Rafa and Rodgers both went close to the title and both won something.
You also drew two of the poorest sides ever seen in the CL this season so I wouldn't get too carried away. The only half decent team in your group you didn't beat in either game and they are nowhere near the best side in it.
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Where as you got beat by Basel.
What’s your point?
Metro:
"Jose has spent a quarter of a billion (yes, that’s net)
This obsession with trying to label Klopp a chequebook manager is hilarious."
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The obsession with net spend is hilarious. And it's so completely misguided.
What other business separates "this" aspect of their income from "that" aspect of their income?
Why is transfer spend and transfer income seen as a separate entity in regards to the overall income and expenditure streams of any particular club.
So United have an (approximate) net spend of minus £250m when it comes to transfers alone. So what? How much have United actually earned in that time, earnings which have given them an amount that they can spend on transfers while still posting a profit overall in their yearly accounts?
The net spend "argument" is simply ridiculous, and one that completely misses the point. If a club can afford to spend x amount on a player, then so what? It doesn't make the manager of that club better or worse if that transfer outlay was offset by the sale of a player (or players), or whether it was money that was generated through other revenue streams (such as sponsorship, tv revenue, prize money, whatever).
Posters having a fascination with net spend on this site is absolutely hilarious and points to a group of people who really have no clue.
comment by KLS. (U1695)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Well 8n reality he has been here 26 months, reached two cup finals, improved the leagle position, qualified top of the CL group and the furthest we've been since 2009 and unlike Rodgers and Rafa hasn't been here at least four years.
Other than that a very well thought out post from you again. Kudos.
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Clutching at straws. Rafa and Rodgers both went close to the title and both won something.
You also drew two of the poorest sides ever seen in the CL this season so I wouldn't get too carried away. The only half decent team in your group you didn't beat in either game and they are nowhere near the best side in it.
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Where as you got beat by Basel.
What’s your point?
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We did but we had 1 foot and 4 toes in the next stage due to the results in the first 4 games. We were very complacent.
Also your record vs Basel isnt any better. They've been the bogey side of many teams.
We really are embarrassing ourselves here
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by KLS. (U1695)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Well 8n reality he has been here 26 months, reached two cup finals, improved the leagle position, qualified top of the CL group and the furthest we've been since 2009 and unlike Rodgers and Rafa hasn't been here at least four years.
Other than that a very well thought out post from you again. Kudos.
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Clutching at straws. Rafa and Rodgers both went close to the title and both won something.
You also drew two of the poorest sides ever seen in the CL this season so I wouldn't get too carried away. The only half decent team in your group you didn't beat in either game and they are nowhere near the best side in it.
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Where as you got beat by Basel.
What’s your point?
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We did but we had 1 foot and 4 toes in the next stage due to the results in the first 4 games. We were very complacent.
Also your record vs Basel isnt any better. They've been the bogey side of many teams.
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Our record vs Basel in previous years is irrelevant.
We qualified top of our group unbeaten and second only to PSG in the scoring charts. You can go on about Maribor & Moscow being 2 of the poorest sides ever but Moscow beat Sevilla in the group stages and Maribor got a draw at Chelsea a few years ago.
We let a 3 goal lead slip at Sevilla and the manager has addressed our weakness and brought in a very good defender.
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posted on 28/12/17
I don't see what the issue is? We were never in for VVD so it's not like they've nicked him from us, Klopp's a hypocrite? Aye, welcome to professional football, Jose's had the nerve to talk about City's spending recently...
Transfer fees are insane now anyway so it's to be expected, he's a good centre-back IMO, Clyne, Matip, VVD, Robertson and a new GK and maybe a proper DM could push Liverpool on again next season?
posted on 28/12/17
What that means now is every club Liverpool target to buy a player from now on will take them to the cleaners, knowing they can fork out £75m for a defender.
posted on 28/12/17
Klopp`s biggest problem is he doesnt know how to coach a defence, you could give him Maldini, Baresi, Moore and Cafu and his team would still concede too many goals, the art of defending starts at the front and Klopp`s teams leave their defenders far too exposed.
The media however, is awash with former Mousers who will back whatever their beloved Pool do to the hilt, no matter how ridiculous or deluded, the Pool loving media will always continue to put a positive spin on all things Mouse.
Hence why every single Pool manager gets a free ride when others are hammered into the ground.
posted on 28/12/17
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 5 minutes ago
I don't see what the issue is? We were never in for VVD so it's not like they've nicked him from us, Klopp's a hypocrite? Aye, welcome to professional football, Jose's had the nerve to talk about City's spending recently...
Transfer fees are insane now anyway so it's to be expected, he's a good centre-back IMO, Clyne, Matip, VVD, Robertson and a new GK and maybe a proper DM could push Liverpool on again next season?
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All of this.
posted on 28/12/17
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 50 minutes ago
The reality is this. Klopp has built a team and has roughly broke even.
Jose has spent a quarter of a billion (yes, that’s net)
This obsession with trying to label Klopp a chequebook manager is hilarious. He’ll likely be at a net deficit if we sell Coutinho.
For a manager to get a team back into the CL whilst operating at break even is fantastic.
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Complete nonsense, Klopp now has a positive net spend of around £110m
posted on 28/12/17
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posted on 28/12/17
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posted on 28/12/17
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 50 minutes ago
The reality is this. Klopp has built a team and has roughly broke even.
Jose has spent a quarter of a billion (yes, that’s net)
This obsession with trying to label Klopp a chequebook manager is hilarious. He’ll likely be at a net deficit if we sell Coutinho.
For a manager to get a team back into the CL whilst operating at break even is fantastic.
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Complete nonsense, Klopp now has a positive net spend of around £110m
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Still think net spend is irrelevant unless you're having to sell key players to invest in new ones.
Klopp hasn't had to sell big names to raise money for transfers, neither has Jose etc...
The net spend argument is clutching at straws.
posted on 28/12/17
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
comment by LQ (U6305)
posted 2 minutes ago
75 mill though
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Big club pays over the odds for decent player.. .shock.
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And big clubs get called out for it even bigger shock
posted on 28/12/17
Klopp hasn't put a single piece of silverware on the table yet. Previous Liverpool managers have found the title to be elusive also but have always done fairly well in the cups.
He seemingly can do no wrong though. Such hypocrites.
posted on 28/12/17
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
Klopp hasn't put a single piece of silverware on the table yet. Previous Liverpool managers have found the title to be elusive also but have always done fairly well in the cups.
He seemingly can do no wrong though. Such hypocrites.
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My god you are bitter
posted on 28/12/17
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Klopp hasn't put a single piece of silverware on the table yet. Previous Liverpool managers have found the title to be elusive also but have always done fairly well in the cups.
He seemingly can do no wrong though. Such hypocrites.
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Please explain how (and who for that matter) are being hypocritical.
Thanks in advance.
posted on 28/12/17
comment by LQ (U6305)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
Klopp hasn't put a single piece of silverware on the table yet. Previous Liverpool managers have found the title to be elusive also but have always done fairly well in the cups.
He seemingly can do no wrong though. Such hypocrites.
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My god you are bitter
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That doesn't make sense
posted on 28/12/17
Makes more sense than what you wrote
posted on 28/12/17
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Klopp hasn't put a single piece of silverware on the table yet. Previous Liverpool managers have found the title to be elusive also but have always done fairly well in the cups.
He seemingly can do no wrong though. Such hypocrites.
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Please explain how (and who for that matter) are being hypocritical.
Thanks in advance.
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Because Rafa and Rodgers 'had to go' so you could push on yet you are no closer to the title and probably less competitive in the cups also.
If you don't win the FA cup this season or the CL (which is less likely) that will be 3 trophy less seasons for him.
Is that good enough?
posted on 28/12/17
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Makes more sense than what you wrote
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No it doesn't. You've won one league cup in 11 years. What have we got to be bitter about with you lot?
City perhaps we do have a reason to be.
posted on 28/12/17
Well 8n reality he has been here 26 months, reached two cup finals, improved the leagle position, qualified top of the CL group and the furthest we've been since 2009 and unlike Rodgers and Rafa hasn't been here at least four years.
Other than that a very well thought out post from you again. Kudos.
posted on 28/12/17
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 2 hours, 16 minutes ago
This VVD deal is doing some real psychological damage to the feeble minded on this forum.
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its institutionalized sandy.
posted on 28/12/17
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Well 8n reality he has been here 26 months, reached two cup finals, improved the leagle position, qualified top of the CL group and the furthest we've been since 2009 and unlike Rodgers and Rafa hasn't been here at least four years.
Other than that a very well thought out post from you again. Kudos.
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Clutching at straws. Rafa and Rodgers both went close to the title and both won something.
You also drew two of the poorest sides ever seen in the CL this season so I wouldn't get too carried away. The only half decent team in your group you didn't beat in either game and they are nowhere near the best side in it.
posted on 28/12/17
Right so what you're saying is "Liverpool" (whoever that is) are a hypocrite because they've not called for and indeed sacked Klopp for something that hasn't happened yet?
This is your input to the forum today?
posted on 28/12/17
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Well 8n reality he has been here 26 months, reached two cup finals, improved the leagle position, qualified top of the CL group and the furthest we've been since 2009 and unlike Rodgers and Rafa hasn't been here at least four years.
Other than that a very well thought out post from you again. Kudos.
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Clutching at straws. Rafa and Rodgers both went close to the title and both won something.
You also drew two of the poorest sides ever seen in the CL this season so I wouldn't get too carried away. The only half decent team in your group you didn't beat in either game and they are nowhere near the best side in it.
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Where as you got beat by Basel.
What’s your point?
posted on 28/12/17
Metro:
"Jose has spent a quarter of a billion (yes, that’s net)
This obsession with trying to label Klopp a chequebook manager is hilarious."
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The obsession with net spend is hilarious. And it's so completely misguided.
What other business separates "this" aspect of their income from "that" aspect of their income?
Why is transfer spend and transfer income seen as a separate entity in regards to the overall income and expenditure streams of any particular club.
So United have an (approximate) net spend of minus £250m when it comes to transfers alone. So what? How much have United actually earned in that time, earnings which have given them an amount that they can spend on transfers while still posting a profit overall in their yearly accounts?
The net spend "argument" is simply ridiculous, and one that completely misses the point. If a club can afford to spend x amount on a player, then so what? It doesn't make the manager of that club better or worse if that transfer outlay was offset by the sale of a player (or players), or whether it was money that was generated through other revenue streams (such as sponsorship, tv revenue, prize money, whatever).
Posters having a fascination with net spend on this site is absolutely hilarious and points to a group of people who really have no clue.
posted on 28/12/17
comment by KLS. (U1695)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Well 8n reality he has been here 26 months, reached two cup finals, improved the leagle position, qualified top of the CL group and the furthest we've been since 2009 and unlike Rodgers and Rafa hasn't been here at least four years.
Other than that a very well thought out post from you again. Kudos.
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Clutching at straws. Rafa and Rodgers both went close to the title and both won something.
You also drew two of the poorest sides ever seen in the CL this season so I wouldn't get too carried away. The only half decent team in your group you didn't beat in either game and they are nowhere near the best side in it.
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Where as you got beat by Basel.
What’s your point?
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We did but we had 1 foot and 4 toes in the next stage due to the results in the first 4 games. We were very complacent.
Also your record vs Basel isnt any better. They've been the bogey side of many teams.
posted on 28/12/17
We really are embarrassing ourselves here
posted on 28/12/17
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by KLS. (U1695)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Well 8n reality he has been here 26 months, reached two cup finals, improved the leagle position, qualified top of the CL group and the furthest we've been since 2009 and unlike Rodgers and Rafa hasn't been here at least four years.
Other than that a very well thought out post from you again. Kudos.
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Clutching at straws. Rafa and Rodgers both went close to the title and both won something.
You also drew two of the poorest sides ever seen in the CL this season so I wouldn't get too carried away. The only half decent team in your group you didn't beat in either game and they are nowhere near the best side in it.
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Where as you got beat by Basel.
What’s your point?
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We did but we had 1 foot and 4 toes in the next stage due to the results in the first 4 games. We were very complacent.
Also your record vs Basel isnt any better. They've been the bogey side of many teams.
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Our record vs Basel in previous years is irrelevant.
We qualified top of our group unbeaten and second only to PSG in the scoring charts. You can go on about Maribor & Moscow being 2 of the poorest sides ever but Moscow beat Sevilla in the group stages and Maribor got a draw at Chelsea a few years ago.
We let a 3 goal lead slip at Sevilla and the manager has addressed our weakness and brought in a very good defender.
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