comment by ------- (U21614)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Robb Sanchez 🎬⚽️⭐️ (U21234)
posted 29 seconds ago
It’s obvious to most than Conte has one foot outside the door
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And despite that, he will be more successful than Jose will be at United unless he pulls of the CL this season.
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Every season is different. The most recent one we’re in - Jose will likely finish above Conte.

Conte will be another Chelsea manager who failed to do what your greatest ever manager (Jose) did - retain the title

comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 7 minutes ago
"...Morata much better all round game..."

I don't believe that Baz. He looks a more natural footballer, and has a better technical game; but Lukaku's pace, power, strength, determination, and striking of the ball with his left foot will serve us well in not only racking up the goals, but in delivering assists, stretching and tiring defences, making space for other players and in our counterattacking play.

They are very different players and can both be very effective footballers in their own ways. I'm actually a fan of both, and though I believe Morata will come good (and very good) at Chelsea, I'd prefer to keep Lukaku.

He's going to score a *lot* of goals for us in the coming seasons.
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Yes, I was meaning technically morata is vastly superior. Lukaku has a different set of attributes that serve him well which you have outlined, he certainly will score a lot of goals. Whereas morata is not as out and out a goal scorer like lukaku, but is far more adept at playing the team game. I’m happy with lukaku but I think it would have been interesting to see how we’d have played had we signed morata.

They are both well gash so I don't see the point.

Neither are good enough for the level both teans aspire to be at.

I think Lukaku, Sanchez and Martial is a FAR more deadlier front three than Hazard, Morata and Willian

comment by Robb Sanchez 🎬⚽️⭐️ (U21234)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by ------- (U21614)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Robb Sanchez 🎬⚽️⭐️ (U21234)
posted 29 seconds ago
It’s obvious to most than Conte has one foot outside the door
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And despite that, he will be more successful than Jose will be at United unless he pulls of the CL this season.
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Every season is different. The most recent one we’re in - Jose will likely finish above Conte.

Conte will be another Chelsea manager who failed to do what your greatest ever manager (Jose) did - retain the title
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Means nothing if he doesn't win the league, which is evidently not happening anymore, so unless he pulls of the CL then Conte's been more successful with us than Jose has at United because lets be real, Pep isn't relinquishing top spot anytime soon.

t by -Baz-tango-in-Paris (U19119)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 5 minutes ago
What would worry me about Morata is his mentality i think. No doubt he is a talented footballer, but I reckon he's a bit of a bottler. Some of the big chances he's missed in recent games I bet he buries in training
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There is a suspicion of this, has to be said. Does. Appear a bit mentally weak. Lukaku in the other hand just looks lazy, and incompetent in link play, though he does pop up and score goals and mentally seems stronger.

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Sounds like someone with a preconcieved opinion on lukaku, all you have listed are false. Lukaku is not lazy and he is not incompetent in link up play, football is not for you.

comment by hiro nakamora (U1445)
posted 6 seconds ago
t by -Baz-tango-in-Paris (U19119)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 5 minutes ago
What would worry me about Morata is his mentality i think. No doubt he is a talented footballer, but I reckon he's a bit of a bottler. Some of the big chances he's missed in recent games I bet he buries in training
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There is a suspicion of this, has to be said. Does. Appear a bit mentally weak. Lukaku in the other hand just looks lazy, and incompetent in link play, though he does pop up and score goals and mentally seems stronger.

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Sounds like someone with a preconcieved opinion on lukaku, all you have listed are false. Lukaku is not lazy and he is not incompetent in link up play, football is not for you.
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Alright princess, calm down. He has looked lazy in some games, hence the comment, and his link up play has not been brilliant at times, often down to a poor touch. But he does utilise his pace and power well, and importantly score goals.

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comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 46 seconds ago
In theory, the 3-5-2 is supposed to give the whole team more freedom and flexibility to find space and cause teams problems. Problem is we don't have the wingbacks or midfielders to make it work, offensively. So we just end up devoid of ideas and reliant on Hazard.
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Moses is cack, but Alonso is decent no?

I don't know why you don't go back to the 343 you were playing last season. My only guess would be that Conte doesn't trust a 2 man midfield without Matic's discipline. But then the benefit of a back 3 is that they can make up for a midfield which might have gaps in it.

It just show though just how difficult it is these days to sign a top striker. Probably not a new thing either. Both clubs spent a a fortune on these guys. There is a long list of strikers who failed after big money moves. People forget just how shocking Torres actually was after the Chelsea move. Liverpool themselves failed with Carrol. Wonder if playing striker requires more self belief and confidence than other outfield positions.

Bit of a stretch to say Morata excelled at Juventus, when he wasn’t even a 1 in 4 striker for them over his two seasons there.

Chelsea has been a strikers graveyard (with a couple of exceptions) for decades

comment by -Baz-tango-in-Paris (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by hiro nakamora (U1445)
posted 6 seconds ago
t by -Baz-tango-in-Paris (U19119)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 5 minutes ago
What would worry me about Morata is his mentality i think. No doubt he is a talented footballer, but I reckon he's a bit of a bottler. Some of the big chances he's missed in recent games I bet he buries in training
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There is a suspicion of this, has to be said. Does. Appear a bit mentally weak. Lukaku in the other hand just looks lazy, and incompetent in link play, though he does pop up and score goals and mentally seems stronger.

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Sounds like someone with a preconcieved opinion on lukaku, all you have listed are false. Lukaku is not lazy and he is not incompetent in link up play, football is not for you.
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Alright princess, calm down. He has looked lazy in some games, hence the comment, and his link up play has not been brilliant at times, often down to a poor touch. But he does utilise his pace and power well, and importantly score

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He has more to his game than pace and power, he picks several excellent passes during games and should have a better assist tally by now if we weren’t so profiligate with chances. The statement that Morata is technically superior to him is a huge falacy soread by clueless press and gullible fans, there is nothing superior to Morata’s technical ability to any of yve strikers in any of the top 6 clubs. Watch football a little more objectively and form an opinion of your own, quit with the bandwagon nonsense.

comment by hiro nakamora (U1445)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by -Baz-tango-in-Paris (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by hiro nakamora (U1445)
posted 6 seconds ago
t by -Baz-tango-in-Paris (U19119)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 5 minutes ago
What would worry me about Morata is his mentality i think. No doubt he is a talented footballer, but I reckon he's a bit of a bottler. Some of the big chances he's missed in recent games I bet he buries in training
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There is a suspicion of this, has to be said. Does. Appear a bit mentally weak. Lukaku in the other hand just looks lazy, and incompetent in link play, though he does pop up and score goals and mentally seems stronger.

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Sounds like someone with a preconcieved opinion on lukaku, all you have listed are false. Lukaku is not lazy and he is not incompetent in link up play, football is not for you.
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Alright princess, calm down. He has looked lazy in some games, hence the comment, and his link up play has not been brilliant at times, often down to a poor touch. But he does utilise his pace and power well, and importantly score

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He has more to his game than pace and power, he picks several excellent passes during games and should have a better assist tally by now if we weren’t so profiligate with chances. The statement that Morata is technically superior to him is a huge falacy soread by clueless press and gullible fans, there is nothing superior to Morata’s technical ability to any of yve strikers in any of the top 6 clubs. Watch football a little more objectively and form an opinion of your own, quit with the bandwagon nonsense.
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That is a judgement made bu watching football. It’s also what others have mentioned many a time too, after watching football. Seems you are in the minority’s. But I’d agree, lukaku does pick a good pass here and there. He also loses the ball a fair bit too.

hiro nikamuro.
He is technically better, it's nothing to do with clueless press or gullible fans, that's a description to make you appear to be one of the intelligent few who can see through it.
But he is technically superior, which is why so many people think he is.
Doesn't make him a better striker though.

No thanks

comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 25 minutes ago
Neither are good enough for the level both teans aspire to be at.
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Whom might we have been able to acquire who'd be doing a better job than Lukaku?

Could we have a list please?

If you accept an outsiders opinion...

I have little doubt that Morata is the better footballer but I’d pick Lukaku. You don’t necessarily need the be the best footballer to be a really effective CF. The likes of Shearer, Owen, Defoe - all among top scorers in EPL. All excellent players obviously but you wouldn’t necessarily call them great footballers, just great CFs. They had the instinct of a goal scorer.

If you’re lucky enough to have both a great footballer and a great CF (Henry) then amazing but if not then I’d pick the CF instinct. Lukaku has that (to an extent anyway), I don’t believe Morata does.

Nope.I prefer Morata to Lukaku.

Both should be squad options at a club like Man Utd, starting 20/25 games a season.

Neither have the all round game to take us to PL or CL titles imo.

Btw, goals from a striker are important, but we have a group of attacking players who can score goals now (if we get Sanchez).

It's all about chance creation now, and it doesn't need to be the striker getting them all.

I’d swap with Morata if we had a team of hard men and we needed an absolute phanny to balance it.

Morata is cack

Lukaku's all round game has improved over the last 4-5 games... keep that level up and I'm happy.