comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 4 minutes ago
Hahahaha hahahaha whyte was shocking, such each money against him
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He was hardly shocking as he was comfortably winning the fight. Just got caught with a big punch is all.

I suppose when you analyse Whyte's fights a little more closely, you could say the first Chisora fight could have been a draw, and he was only 5-10 seconds away from losing against Parker. Makes a loss to a 40 year old Povetkin somewhat less shocking with that context.

Glad whyte got beat. Never a ppv fighter, bang average and living off an illegal knockdown v Parker/buzzing and getting koed by aj.

He did legit knock down Parker later in that fight.

Don’t think Parker recovered from that early kd personally

Disagree. Whyte has a powerful shot on him and that's what caused Parker to go down. Parker was the stronger fighter in the later rounds, and had the fight been a few seconds longer he'd have put Whyte down again to end it, cause Whyte was absolutely spent.

did whyte get careless last night, or did he not see the set up coming when povetkin hit him with that jab just before the uppercut ?

I would give Povetkin the credit there. It was a clever shot.

He set it up well, did same sequence 3 times in previous rounds.

Tony Bellew talking about creating a Super Cruiserweight division makes a lot of sense to me. He's saying it should be for fighters at 190 pounds to 220 pounds. Shifting the Heavyweight weight from 200+ pounds to 220+ pounds.

So the Super Cruiserweight division would be for guys like Usyk and Wilder who are light for heavyweights. Definitely solves the issue for fighters like Usyk who in previous eras would be more than big enough for HW but are basically too small for it in the modern era.

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/755744/tony-bellew-deontay-wilder-oleksandr-usyk-super-cruiserweight/amp/

Disagree to be fair!! Doesn’t matter how many weight classes to have.. heavy weight is top level, your wilders, usyks will prefer heavy weight anyway!

That’s the very reason they fall themselves heavys now.. Usyk puts all that work in to love yo heavy, and they say, nah, you can be super cruiser!

Keep it as it is..

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Ok but doesn't the fact that athletes get bigger and stronger lend credence to the suggestion that the HW weight should be increased from 200 pounds and above to 220 pounds and above?

I think this is what Bellew is suggesting. That you can currently weigh just over 200 pounds as a HW but you have to fight absolute monsters that outweigh you massively. Setting the HW weight to 220 pounds and above goes a long way to solving that problem.

I do think that another weight class is coming though. There's talk of a Super Heavyweight division which would be a terrible idea I think. Super Cruiser makes much more sense and maybe in time it could be a very prestigious and lucrative division as well.

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HW division would still be the glamour division I wouldn’t imagine there being many that stay at super cruiser for more than 1-2 fights if successful as bigger and better money fights would be available

On that chisora v usyk been announced yet?

comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 14 minutes ago
If athletes get bigger and stronger it simply means the heavyweight division will be full of bigger and stronger guys, which then balances out any size differential.

A good example is the heights of the current top 10 boxers:
Fury- 6 ft 9
AJ - 6 ft 6
Wilder- 6 ft 7
Povetkin- 6 ft 4
Ruiz- 6 ft 2
Whyte - 6 ft 4
Ortiz- 6 ft 4
Parker- 6 ft 4
Pulev- 6 ft 4
Hunter-6 ft 2

Aside from Ruiz and Hunter, the rest of the guys are giants. As athletes evolve, we will continue to get spreads like the above, with certain outliers like Fury and Wilder and AJ.

I think most heavyweights come in quite a bit over the 200lb limit but some come in close to it and it tends to benefit them in terms of speed and agility. I like the fact that we have a broad spectrum of heavyweights in terms of size and Ruiz proved to us that in heavyweight boxing, it isn't about how big you are, it's about who can land that one shot that changes everything.

I simply think adding another division just further dilutes the sport and just gives the higher weight guys the opportunity to hold more belts and not defend them against the best guys.
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prime 5ft 10 mike tyson would waste most of them over sized gets

people in general are getting bigger and taller....something due to high calorie diet , and chemicals in the water.....its happened too quickly to be down to natural selection

i'm 5ft 10 and about average height for a man in his 40s

20 something blokes probably average 6ft i reckon now

ideal height for a man for optimal athletic performance, etc ...given our skeletal and muscular structure is 5ft 9 - 6ft 1

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Well another division is being discussed and is on it's way it seems. If not a new 190-220lb division then they'll probably just create this Super Heavyweight division that nobody wants, right?

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I can't see the point either. Heavyweight has to be the absolute pinnacle, there can't be another weight above it otherwise it would surely just undermine the HW division.

If they do bring in this 190-220lb division then they'll have to be clever in how they name it. It can't have cruiserweight in the title. It will probably need to have heavyweight in the title but light heavyweight obviously isn't an option as that's taken and it's a crap name anyway.

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
I can't see the point either. Heavyweight has to be the absolute pinnacle, there can't be another weight above it otherwise it would surely just undermine the HW division.

If they do bring in this 190-220lb division then they'll have to be clever in how they name it. It can't have cruiserweight in the title. It will probably need to have heavyweight in the title but light heavyweight obviously isn't an option as that's taken and it's a crap name anyway.
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Super heavyweight.

You can't call a 190-220lb division Super Heavyweight if the Heavyweight division is above that at 220lb +.