comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 17 minutes ago
still cant fecking call this one. Fury is on the slide, if he has been able to curtail this with how serious he is taking it then he may still have the tools to deal with Usyk.
You just never know with Usyk however, no idea how his style is gonna affect the other fighter.
I will 100% be whacking 20 quid or so on a draw, too many factors point to it being one whether its deserved or not for me... This has Canelo GGG 1 vibes (in a betting sense for me).
I just cant call the fight at all however.
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Why don't you call into William Hills and offer them a name change bet, whodumbtit?
why dont you phone up Argos and place an order for a life.
Feel like he’ll probably still get knocked down in the fight at some point but Fury will win by KO/TKO
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 57 minutes ago
why dont you phone up Argos and place an order for a life.
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Could I refuse to pay and welch on the order?
#spinelesscant
It's tough fight to call, especially after Furys performance in his last outing. However, I think the size will be an issue for Usyk and I can see him struggling to close the range. Fury will box smart at the end of his jab and look to tie Usyk up on the inside. This will be a messy fight but I think Fury edges it via a split decision.
An important factor to be cognizant of is the potential AJ vs Fury fight. The Saudi's and the boxing upper ranks want that fight, so Usyk will have to win a clear decisive victory, if he wants to leave Saudia Arabia as undisputed.
comment by The Guvnor XI -AKA The Shōguv (U12889)
posted 44 minutes ago
An important factor to be cognizant of is the potential AJ vs Fury fight. The Saudi's and the boxing upper ranks want that fight, so Usyk will have to win a clear decisive victory, if he wants to leave Saudia Arabia as undisputed.
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there is the rematch clause also Im sure its a direct rematch clause also meaning it would need to be the next fight im sure?
Ultimately, I think it comes down to Fury's desire to win the fight, we know Usyk is committed, we never know with Tyson. If Fury is on it, it'll be one hell of a fight.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 50 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -AKA The Shōguv (U12889)
posted 44 minutes ago
An important factor to be cognizant of is the potential AJ vs Fury fight. The Saudi's and the boxing upper ranks want that fight, so Usyk will have to win a clear decisive victory, if he wants to leave Saudia Arabia as undisputed.
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there is the rematch clause also Im sure its a direct rematch clause also meaning it would need to be the next fight im sure?
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There is a rematch clause but I was under the impression that it wasn't immediate.
comment by The Guvnor XI -AKA The Shōguv (U12889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 50 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -AKA The Shōguv (U12889)
posted 44 minutes ago
An important factor to be cognizant of is the potential AJ vs Fury fight. The Saudi's and the boxing upper ranks want that fight, so Usyk will have to win a clear decisive victory, if he wants to leave Saudia Arabia as undisputed.
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there is the rematch clause also Im sure its a direct rematch clause also meaning it would need to be the next fight im sure?
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There is a rematch clause but I was under the impression that it wasn't immediate.
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I read that both have an immediate rematch clause, I suppose the article could be wrong however.
Fury also confirmed that he will fight Usyk twice this year
I wonder if the Saudi's step in, if the fight is one sided and ask the loser to delay the rematch.
Fury gonna knock this rabbit khunt out
COME ON MY SON
Fury 18 stone 7 over a stone lighter than last fight
Usyk 16 stone 7 around a stone heavier than last fight
🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
Time to sort out the men from the boys
I don't think Fury is going to be able to keep up with the pace that Usyk sets and the amount of punches he throws and lands every round.
Fury's best chance is going for the kill early and trying to land something big that Usyk can't recover from and that kills any rhythm that he'll otherwise inevitably build up as he starts to time Fury.
Can see Fury trying to make this a hug fest though, especially if he really starts to struggle. It has the potential to be an awful spectacle if he does that.
comment by Superb - Champ and future goat of the BORED (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
I don't think Fury is going to be able to keep up with the pace that Usyk sets and the amount of punches he throws and lands every round.
Fury's best chance is going for the kill early and trying to land something big that Usyk can't recover from and that kills any rhythm that he'll otherwise inevitably build up as he starts to time Fury.
Can see Fury trying to make this a hug fest though, especially if he really starts to struggle. It has the potential to be an awful spectacle if he does that.
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Fury is a master clincher. He will tie Usyk up like pretzel, on the inside.
Really hope not. I know Fury loves those lunging hugs that he does but it will make for an awful fight to watch if he resorts to hugging Usyk all night.
Watch out for the body shots from Fury. We know Usyk is vulnerable to the mid section and I'm sure team Fury would have strategised for it.
Fury coming in very light, which suggests he wants to be active and mobile for longer in the fight.
comment by The Guvnor XI -AKA The Shōguv (U12889)
posted 8 minutes ago
Watch out for the body shots from Fury. We know Usyk is vulnerable to the mid section and I'm sure team Fury would have strategised for it.
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I don't think Usyk is especially vulnerable to the body. AJ was pounding him with body shots and had no joy. Dubois hit Usyk with a low blow, whether people want to accept that or not. Usyk has had about 300 amateur fights. If he had some glaring weakness with body shots it would have been exposed long ago.
If anyone needs to be worried about something being exposed I'd say it's Fury with that cut above his eye that doesn't look fully healed yet. If Usyk targets that it could get opened up and gash open again during the fight.
Usyk has been hurt 3 times in his career. All 3 stemmed from bodyshots. He is vulnerable to them. Just because AJ couldn't hurt him, does not disprove that statement. During the Dubois fight, it was evident that Usyk was feeling the bodyshots but his composure and IQ were good enough to weather those storms.
In relation to the cut, I will concede that it's an area of concern. It's above the eye, which will impair Fury's vision and if it opens up early, the ref could step in and stop the fight. Naturally, I hope this isn't the case but it's a talking point that could play a huge factor in the outcome.
Fury vs Usyk ring walks will be around 11pm UK time.
comment by The Guvnor XI -AKA The Shōguv (U12889)
posted 3 hours, 31 minutes ago
Usyk has been hurt 3 times in his career. All 3 stemmed from bodyshots. He is vulnerable to them. Just because AJ couldn't hurt him, does not disprove that statement. During the Dubois fight, it was evident that Usyk was feeling the bodyshots but his composure and IQ were good enough to weather those storms.
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AJ hit Usyk with plenty of body shots, especially in the second fight. It didn't stop Usyk. As for the Dubois fight Usyk schooled Dubois for the majority of the fight and then stopped him. The only moment of real joy Dubois had was the illegal low blow on Usyk. Outside of that Usyk was never in any trouble during the fight.
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posted on 17/5/24
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 17 minutes ago
still cant fecking call this one. Fury is on the slide, if he has been able to curtail this with how serious he is taking it then he may still have the tools to deal with Usyk.
You just never know with Usyk however, no idea how his style is gonna affect the other fighter.
I will 100% be whacking 20 quid or so on a draw, too many factors point to it being one whether its deserved or not for me... This has Canelo GGG 1 vibes (in a betting sense for me).
I just cant call the fight at all however.
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Why don't you call into William Hills and offer them a name change bet, whodumbtit?
posted on 17/5/24
why dont you phone up Argos and place an order for a life.
posted on 17/5/24
Feel like he’ll probably still get knocked down in the fight at some point but Fury will win by KO/TKO
posted on 17/5/24
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 57 minutes ago
why dont you phone up Argos and place an order for a life.
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Could I refuse to pay and welch on the order?
#spinelesscant
posted on 17/5/24
It's tough fight to call, especially after Furys performance in his last outing. However, I think the size will be an issue for Usyk and I can see him struggling to close the range. Fury will box smart at the end of his jab and look to tie Usyk up on the inside. This will be a messy fight but I think Fury edges it via a split decision.
posted on 17/5/24
An important factor to be cognizant of is the potential AJ vs Fury fight. The Saudi's and the boxing upper ranks want that fight, so Usyk will have to win a clear decisive victory, if he wants to leave Saudia Arabia as undisputed.
posted on 17/5/24
Watch it end as a draw.
posted on 17/5/24
comment by The Guvnor XI -AKA The Shōguv (U12889)
posted 44 minutes ago
An important factor to be cognizant of is the potential AJ vs Fury fight. The Saudi's and the boxing upper ranks want that fight, so Usyk will have to win a clear decisive victory, if he wants to leave Saudia Arabia as undisputed.
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there is the rematch clause also Im sure its a direct rematch clause also meaning it would need to be the next fight im sure?
posted on 17/5/24
Ultimately, I think it comes down to Fury's desire to win the fight, we know Usyk is committed, we never know with Tyson. If Fury is on it, it'll be one hell of a fight.
posted on 17/5/24
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 50 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -AKA The Shōguv (U12889)
posted 44 minutes ago
An important factor to be cognizant of is the potential AJ vs Fury fight. The Saudi's and the boxing upper ranks want that fight, so Usyk will have to win a clear decisive victory, if he wants to leave Saudia Arabia as undisputed.
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there is the rematch clause also Im sure its a direct rematch clause also meaning it would need to be the next fight im sure?
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There is a rematch clause but I was under the impression that it wasn't immediate.
posted on 17/5/24
comment by The Guvnor XI -AKA The Shōguv (U12889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 50 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -AKA The Shōguv (U12889)
posted 44 minutes ago
An important factor to be cognizant of is the potential AJ vs Fury fight. The Saudi's and the boxing upper ranks want that fight, so Usyk will have to win a clear decisive victory, if he wants to leave Saudia Arabia as undisputed.
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there is the rematch clause also Im sure its a direct rematch clause also meaning it would need to be the next fight im sure?
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There is a rematch clause but I was under the impression that it wasn't immediate.
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I read that both have an immediate rematch clause, I suppose the article could be wrong however.
posted on 17/5/24
Fury also confirmed that he will fight Usyk twice this year
posted on 17/5/24
I wonder if the Saudi's step in, if the fight is one sided and ask the loser to delay the rematch.
posted on 17/5/24
Fury gonna knock this rabbit khunt out
COME ON MY SON
Fury 18 stone 7 over a stone lighter than last fight
Usyk 16 stone 7 around a stone heavier than last fight
posted on 17/5/24
🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
Time to sort out the men from the boys
posted on 17/5/24
I don't think Fury is going to be able to keep up with the pace that Usyk sets and the amount of punches he throws and lands every round.
Fury's best chance is going for the kill early and trying to land something big that Usyk can't recover from and that kills any rhythm that he'll otherwise inevitably build up as he starts to time Fury.
Can see Fury trying to make this a hug fest though, especially if he really starts to struggle. It has the potential to be an awful spectacle if he does that.
posted on 17/5/24
comment by Superb - Champ and future goat of the BORED (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
I don't think Fury is going to be able to keep up with the pace that Usyk sets and the amount of punches he throws and lands every round.
Fury's best chance is going for the kill early and trying to land something big that Usyk can't recover from and that kills any rhythm that he'll otherwise inevitably build up as he starts to time Fury.
Can see Fury trying to make this a hug fest though, especially if he really starts to struggle. It has the potential to be an awful spectacle if he does that.
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Fury is a master clincher. He will tie Usyk up like pretzel, on the inside.
posted on 17/5/24
Really hope not. I know Fury loves those lunging hugs that he does but it will make for an awful fight to watch if he resorts to hugging Usyk all night.
posted on 17/5/24
Watch out for the body shots from Fury. We know Usyk is vulnerable to the mid section and I'm sure team Fury would have strategised for it.
posted on 17/5/24
Fury coming in very light, which suggests he wants to be active and mobile for longer in the fight.
posted on 17/5/24
comment by The Guvnor XI -AKA The Shōguv (U12889)
posted 8 minutes ago
Watch out for the body shots from Fury. We know Usyk is vulnerable to the mid section and I'm sure team Fury would have strategised for it.
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I don't think Usyk is especially vulnerable to the body. AJ was pounding him with body shots and had no joy. Dubois hit Usyk with a low blow, whether people want to accept that or not. Usyk has had about 300 amateur fights. If he had some glaring weakness with body shots it would have been exposed long ago.
If anyone needs to be worried about something being exposed I'd say it's Fury with that cut above his eye that doesn't look fully healed yet. If Usyk targets that it could get opened up and gash open again during the fight.
posted on 18/5/24
Usyk has been hurt 3 times in his career. All 3 stemmed from bodyshots. He is vulnerable to them. Just because AJ couldn't hurt him, does not disprove that statement. During the Dubois fight, it was evident that Usyk was feeling the bodyshots but his composure and IQ were good enough to weather those storms.
posted on 18/5/24
In relation to the cut, I will concede that it's an area of concern. It's above the eye, which will impair Fury's vision and if it opens up early, the ref could step in and stop the fight. Naturally, I hope this isn't the case but it's a talking point that could play a huge factor in the outcome.
posted on 18/5/24
Fury vs Usyk ring walks will be around 11pm UK time.
posted on 18/5/24
comment by The Guvnor XI -AKA The Shōguv (U12889)
posted 3 hours, 31 minutes ago
Usyk has been hurt 3 times in his career. All 3 stemmed from bodyshots. He is vulnerable to them. Just because AJ couldn't hurt him, does not disprove that statement. During the Dubois fight, it was evident that Usyk was feeling the bodyshots but his composure and IQ were good enough to weather those storms.
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AJ hit Usyk with plenty of body shots, especially in the second fight. It didn't stop Usyk. As for the Dubois fight Usyk schooled Dubois for the majority of the fight and then stopped him. The only moment of real joy Dubois had was the illegal low blow on Usyk. Outside of that Usyk was never in any trouble during the fight.
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