Wenger should be fined a years' worth of wages.
Given your away record I don’t think playing a ‘better’ team would have made any difference.
These weakened team fines are a nonsense. Football was still a squad game last I checked.
Nothing wrong with handing out full league debuts to promising kids on the fringes of the first team.
I'd have done it even without the added pressure to rotate the squad brought about by the Europa semis.
We've done it over 2 games now, and we'll continue doing it over the next 5 games.
All our league targets are pretty much unobtainable now. We just have to keep our noses ahead of Burnley.
The two mistakes came from Mustafi and Monreal. They were the most experienced players. So weakened team doesn't apply.
Correct me if I’m wrong but hasn’t Arsenal lost every single PL away game this year (regardless of personnel)?
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 15 minutes ago
Correct me if I’m wrong but hasn’t Arsenal lost every single PL away game this year (regardless of personnel)?
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Yep.
Comes to 13 points on the road all season. Just 3 more than West Brom.
It wasn’t really that weak. We just have crap players. Most of those players bar willock have played quite a lot of first team games for us this season. We should have had likes of Ramsey and Ozil on the bench though. The game was 10 days before Europa, they don’t need The full time off. They could have been rested the game before Madrid.
Most of the players were internationals, so it was hardly as if we played a bunch of kids. With our away record, I doubt we’d have done much better anyway
We're just quite poor generally. The team we put out obviously wasn't full strength but given our away record there's nothing to suggest we'd have faired much better with a few less changes
Team was strong enough to get a result against Newcastle. But it's pretty clear the majority of players have stopped trying for Wenger. Defensively they're not even trying anymore. Some of the errors aren't even schoolboy level. You'd actually have to make an effort to be that negligent.
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - Hate Wenger, L... (U1410)
posted 2 hours, 36 minutes ago
Team was strong enough to get a result against Newcastle. But it's pretty clear the majority of players have stopped trying for Wenger. Defensively they're not even trying anymore. Some of the errors aren't even schoolboy level. You'd actually have to make an effort to be that negligent.
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I would agree that it is apparent that Arsene has lost the respect of many on his team. This is a more toxic problem than merely losing games/points.
If some on the Board of Directors do not get this message, then lots of empty seats might change their minds. Somehow I doubt that many of the Gunner faithful have the stomach for major protests?
Maybe a good thumping by Athletico can do the job for them!
I think there’s a huge lack of accountability in this club. The players don’t seem that bothered about repeating mistakes, and the same is true for Wenger. There’s many players like, mustafi, Bellerin, Xhaka for example have made many repeated mistakes this season, yet are always guaranteed a start. There’s barely a reaction amoungst them when we concede soft goals. I think they know either know wenger won’t hold them to account, or they just don’t care what he says. So there’s just no motivation for them to improve, which could go someway to explain why we’ve never been able to recover much form
It seems clear Wenger still doesn’t really feel any pressure either. He’s happy just to blame tiredness and the ‘hand break’, while generally just seeming quite relaxed about our league form this season. He’s barely made any attempt to fix what’s going wrong this season. He’s just baffled that we’re not regularly winning because we control the ball. He just seems bereft of any new ideas now, and too stubborn to change. I think he still knows the board don’t have the balls to kick him up the árΕè.
What a stupid point of view.Weakened team?Football is a team sport and manager is within his rights to choose any player eligible to play for his team in any match against another team.
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posted on 16/4/18
Wenger should be fined a years' worth of wages.
posted on 16/4/18
Given your away record I don’t think playing a ‘better’ team would have made any difference.
posted on 16/4/18
These weakened team fines are a nonsense. Football was still a squad game last I checked.
posted on 16/4/18
Nothing wrong with handing out full league debuts to promising kids on the fringes of the first team.
I'd have done it even without the added pressure to rotate the squad brought about by the Europa semis.
We've done it over 2 games now, and we'll continue doing it over the next 5 games.
All our league targets are pretty much unobtainable now. We just have to keep our noses ahead of Burnley.
posted on 16/4/18
The two mistakes came from Mustafi and Monreal. They were the most experienced players. So weakened team doesn't apply.
posted on 16/4/18
Correct me if I’m wrong but hasn’t Arsenal lost every single PL away game this year (regardless of personnel)?
posted on 16/4/18
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 15 minutes ago
Correct me if I’m wrong but hasn’t Arsenal lost every single PL away game this year (regardless of personnel)?
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Yep.
Comes to 13 points on the road all season. Just 3 more than West Brom.
posted on 16/4/18
It wasn’t really that weak. We just have crap players. Most of those players bar willock have played quite a lot of first team games for us this season. We should have had likes of Ramsey and Ozil on the bench though. The game was 10 days before Europa, they don’t need The full time off. They could have been rested the game before Madrid.
Most of the players were internationals, so it was hardly as if we played a bunch of kids. With our away record, I doubt we’d have done much better anyway
posted on 16/4/18
We're just quite poor generally. The team we put out obviously wasn't full strength but given our away record there's nothing to suggest we'd have faired much better with a few less changes
posted on 16/4/18
Team was strong enough to get a result against Newcastle. But it's pretty clear the majority of players have stopped trying for Wenger. Defensively they're not even trying anymore. Some of the errors aren't even schoolboy level. You'd actually have to make an effort to be that negligent.
posted on 16/4/18
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - Hate Wenger, L... (U1410)
posted 2 hours, 36 minutes ago
Team was strong enough to get a result against Newcastle. But it's pretty clear the majority of players have stopped trying for Wenger. Defensively they're not even trying anymore. Some of the errors aren't even schoolboy level. You'd actually have to make an effort to be that negligent.
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I would agree that it is apparent that Arsene has lost the respect of many on his team. This is a more toxic problem than merely losing games/points.
If some on the Board of Directors do not get this message, then lots of empty seats might change their minds. Somehow I doubt that many of the Gunner faithful have the stomach for major protests?
Maybe a good thumping by Athletico can do the job for them!
posted on 16/4/18
I think there’s a huge lack of accountability in this club. The players don’t seem that bothered about repeating mistakes, and the same is true for Wenger. There’s many players like, mustafi, Bellerin, Xhaka for example have made many repeated mistakes this season, yet are always guaranteed a start. There’s barely a reaction amoungst them when we concede soft goals. I think they know either know wenger won’t hold them to account, or they just don’t care what he says. So there’s just no motivation for them to improve, which could go someway to explain why we’ve never been able to recover much form
It seems clear Wenger still doesn’t really feel any pressure either. He’s happy just to blame tiredness and the ‘hand break’, while generally just seeming quite relaxed about our league form this season. He’s barely made any attempt to fix what’s going wrong this season. He’s just baffled that we’re not regularly winning because we control the ball. He just seems bereft of any new ideas now, and too stubborn to change. I think he still knows the board don’t have the balls to kick him up the árΕè.
posted on 17/4/18
What a stupid point of view.Weakened team?Football is a team sport and manager is within his rights to choose any player eligible to play for his team in any match against another team.
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