comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (U1192)
posted 5 minutes ago
Imagine black panther became white. Just imagine the uproar. I honestly think all out riots would happen across the planet and it would be the end of existence as we know it
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If Black Panther became white then there's nothing to see. It's not woke, just normal circumstances.

I wonder why they think people don't notice that the problem is skin colour. Everybody's knows.

comment by Disband the PGMOL (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Disband the PGMOL (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
To summarize, whereas it will be denied, IMO, the only issue here is that Falcon is black and a black guy being Captain America doesn't sit well with a lot of the comic book demographic.
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your just making that $hit up now cos I think you realise your losing the argument here.
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These days people make the most absurd claims. You're literally deluded. I the only one providing reasoned posts and common sense here is me.
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your the one calling us all racist cos we think rogers best pal and lifelong companion is a better fit than the guy he goes jogging with

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Disband the PGMOL (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
LIke I said I dont care about canon.
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Well see about that when they replace Iron Man with a black bint.
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If I dont like that it wont be because its not canon it will be whether it seems right to me or not.
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That's just so selfish. It's not about you.

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Disband the PGMOL (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Disband the PGMOL (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
To summarize, whereas it will be denied, IMO, the only issue here is that Falcon is black and a black guy being Captain America doesn't sit well with a lot of the comic book demographic.
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your just making that $hit up now cos I think you realise your losing the argument here.
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These days people make the most absurd claims. You're literally deluded. I the only one providing reasoned posts and common sense here is me.
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your the one calling us all racist cos we think rogers best pal and lifelong companion is a better fit than the guy he goes jogging with
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Enjoy thinking that but the creator and writer had other ideas and there's nothing you can do about that.

Captain America is Falcon whether you like it or not. I love to see how it irks you. Stick that in your pipe a d smoke it.

comment by Disband the PGMOL (U1282)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Disband the PGMOL (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Disband the PGMOL (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
To summarize, whereas it will be denied, IMO, the only issue here is that Falcon is black and a black guy being Captain America doesn't sit well with a lot of the comic book demographic.
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your just making that $hit up now cos I think you realise your losing the argument here.
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These days people make the most absurd claims. You're literally deluded. I the only one providing reasoned posts and common sense here is me.
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your the one calling us all racist cos we think rogers best pal and lifelong companion is a better fit than the guy he goes jogging with
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Enjoy thinking that but the creator and writer had other ideas and there's nothing you can do about that.

Captain America is Falcon whether you like it or not. I love to see how it irks you. Stick that in your pipe a d smoke it.
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I know he did that why we are discussing it and if we read the room most agree that falcon doesnt seem the right fit in this MCU.

It doesnt irk me I just dont think it a good fit and feels awkward... clearly it bothers you . literally going full woke and pulling out the race card!

I know he did that why we are discussing it and if we read the room most agree that falcon doesnt seem the right fit in this MCU.
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That's what I'm highlighting. Replacing minorities with whites is OK but the reverse is not OK. It's racism whether you like itor not because it's based on skin colour.

comment by Disband the PGMOL (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
I know he did that why we are discussing it and if we read the room most agree that falcon doesnt seem the right fit in this MCU.
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That's what I'm highlighting. Replacing minorities with whites is OK but the reverse is not OK. It's racism whether you like itor not because it's based on skin colour.
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nobody brought race into it, i think if they made black panther white we would also call that out for not feeling right if it didnt.

falcon being black has nothing to do with it, nobody brought it up, nor even hinted at it.. you just randomly pulled that card out your a$$ to hit us with after your canon argument fell on its a$$.

I will let you redeem yourself do you think we all believe falcon is not the right fit because he is black or is it because of the numerous reasons we have given?

Of course they don't bring in race directly. That would be to obvious. Instead they make some flimsy nonsensical arguments which even a child can see through.

The problem is skin colour, whether they like to admit it or not. If that was not the case, they'd want to stick to cannon no matter what.

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Disband the PGMOL (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
I know he did that why we are discussing it and if we read the room most agree that falcon doesnt seem the right fit in this MCU.
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That's what I'm highlighting. Replacing minorities with whites is OK but the reverse is not OK. It's racism whether you like itor not because it's based on skin colour.
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nobody brought race into it, i think if they made black panther white we would also call that out for not feeling right if it didnt.

falcon being black has nothing to do with it, nobody brought it up, nor even hinted at it.. you just randomly pulled that card out your a$$ to hit us with after your canon argument fell on its a$$.

I will let you redeem yourself do you think we all believe falcon is not the right fit because he is black or is it because of the numerous reasons we have given?
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You haven't given any reasons at all. You're mad.

comment by Disband the PGMOL (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
Of course they don't bring in race directly. That would be to obvious. Instead they make some flimsy nonsensical arguments which even a child can see through.

The problem is skin colour, whether they like to admit it or not. If that was not the case, they'd want to stick to cannon no matter what.
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so you are saying that we all feel this way cos he is black... what a bell3nd you are.

Well you heard it here guys we are all just racist we dont want black people in MCU.

I couldn't care what colour the dude is, I just think the actual character in the TV show is crap.
I liked falcon in the winter soldier and infinity/endgame, but the show was just cringey as heck and they massively unpowered buck in that show.

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Disband the PGMOL (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
Of course they don't bring in race directly. That would be to obvious. Instead they make some flimsy nonsensical arguments which even a child can see through.

The problem is skin colour, whether they like to admit it or not. If that was not the case, they'd want to stick to cannon no matter what.
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so you are saying that we all feel this way cos he is black... what a bell3nd you are.

Well you heard it here guys we are all just racist we dont want black people in MCU.
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Glad that's cleared up.

comment by Disband the PGMOL (U1282)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Disband the PGMOL (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
I know he did that why we are discussing it and if we read the room most agree that falcon doesnt seem the right fit in this MCU.
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That's what I'm highlighting. Replacing minorities with whites is OK but the reverse is not OK. It's racism whether you like itor not because it's based on skin colour.
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nobody brought race into it, i think if they made black panther white we would also call that out for not feeling right if it didnt.

falcon being black has nothing to do with it, nobody brought it up, nor even hinted at it.. you just randomly pulled that card out your a$$ to hit us with after your canon argument fell on its a$$.

I will let you redeem yourself do you think we all believe falcon is not the right fit because he is black or is it because of the numerous reasons we have given?
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You haven't given any reasons at all. You're mad.
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plenty, physically he is better suited to weild the sheild than falcon. he is closer in the MCU to rogers than falcon was (this was one of the big reasons he took the shield in the comics) once again showing your flip flop of it being canon. Rogers was already willing to give up the shield for Buckie therefore more sense for him to honour it in his absence.

Falcon went jogging with Steve.

but naw its cos he is black

comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (U1192)
posted 9 minutes ago
I couldn't care what colour the dude is, I just think the actual character in the TV show is crap.
I liked falcon in the winter soldier and infinity/endgame, but the show was just cringey as heck and they massively unpowered buck in that show.
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Exactly and the lack of success or love of the show will likely be indicative of the lack of success of this upcoming movie. Cap is the leader of the Avengers, he demands huge respect and is a pop culture icon. Falcon as we've seen him in the MCU isn't that guy. That's why this movie won't work.

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (U1192)
posted 9 minutes ago
I couldn't care what colour the dude is, I just think the actual character in the TV show is crap.
I liked falcon in the winter soldier and infinity/endgame, but the show was just cringey as heck and they massively unpowered buck in that show.
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Exactly and the lack of success or love of the show will likely be indicative of the lack of success of this upcoming movie. Cap is the leader of the Avengers, he demands huge respect and is a pop culture icon. Falcon as we've seen him in the MCU isn't that guy. That's why this movie won't work.
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RACIST !!!!

physically he is better suited to weild the sheild than falcon. he is closer in the MCU to rogers than falcon was (this was one of the big reasons he took the shield in the comics) once again showing your flip flop of it being canon. Rogers was already willing to give up the shield for Buckie therefore more sense for him to honour it in his absence.
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I don't see any valid reason there. Just because you say it is doesn't make it so.

"Physically better suited to wield the shied"

What the fack is that? Either you're wumming me or you're stoopid.

"He is closer in the MCU to rogers than falcon" True, but nowhere near having the morals of Captain America. It's about the content of the character, which doesn't matter to you anywhere near as much as skin colour. You would rather soil captain America's name with murder, mind control and immorality than have a black guy representing America.

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (U1192)
posted 9 minutes ago
I couldn't care what colour the dude is, I just think the actual character in the TV show is crap.
I liked falcon in the winter soldier and infinity/endgame, but the show was just cringey as heck and they massively unpowered buck in that show.
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Exactly and the lack of success or love of the show will likely be indicative of the lack of success of this upcoming movie. Cap is the leader of the Avengers, he demands huge respect and is a pop culture icon. Falcon as we've seen him in the MCU isn't that guy. That's why this movie won't work.
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What about all the other movies and shows that didn't have Falcon and still didn't work?

You're not making any sense and it seems you just want to really hammer the diversity movement no matter what and you don't care if what you say adds up so long as you hammer.

The movie will flop or e a blockbuster depending on whether it's a good movie or not.

I believe most people out there will judge the movie on it's merits instead of deciding before hand that's it's sheet because Cap isn't white.

comment by Disband the PGMOL (U1282)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (U1192)
posted 9 minutes ago
I couldn't care what colour the dude is, I just think the actual character in the TV show is crap.
I liked falcon in the winter soldier and infinity/endgame, but the show was just cringey as heck and they massively unpowered buck in that show.
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Exactly and the lack of success or love of the show will likely be indicative of the lack of success of this upcoming movie. Cap is the leader of the Avengers, he demands huge respect and is a pop culture icon. Falcon as we've seen him in the MCU isn't that guy. That's why this movie won't work.
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What about all the other movies and shows that didn't have Falcon and still didn't work?

You're not making any sense and it seems you just want to really hammer the diversity movement no matter what and you don't care if what you say adds up so long as you hammer.
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Makes perfect sense, the show was poorly reviewed which bodes poorly for the upcoming movie. Nothing complicated about that opinion.

You keep wanting to make this about race when anyone simply gives their opinion about MCU Falcon not being worthy to be Cap. It's nothing to do with race, so there's no need to keep bringing it back to that.

Would be good to hear some actual reasons from you why you think MCU Falcon is worthy to be Cap without referring to some version of the comics. So far you haven't done that as far as I can tell.

https://x.com/SpiderMan/status/1862134398360998153

Your Friendly Neighbourhood Spiderman, Jan 29th. Forgot this was a thing.

Also, not been fully reading the chat but I understand we're racists? Should we all be racist now? What's the Church's position? I'm so busy down on the farm I won't have much time for the ol' racism.

I don’t think it really matters who replaced Rogers, they were always gonna be crap in comparison.

comment by Pun #Pogues4Life (U21588)
posted 47 minutes ago
Also, not been fully reading the chat but I understand we're racists? Should we all be racist now? What's the Church's position? I'm so busy down on the farm I won't have much time for the ol' racism.
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Not all, just some. Stop trying to lump everyone in the same boat.

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 7 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Disband the PGMOL (U1282)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (U1192)
posted 9 minutes ago
I couldn't care what colour the dude is, I just think the actual character in the TV show is crap.
I liked falcon in the winter soldier and infinity/endgame, but the show was just cringey as heck and they massively unpowered buck in that show.
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Exactly and the lack of success or love of the show will likely be indicative of the lack of success of this upcoming movie. Cap is the leader of the Avengers, he demands huge respect and is a pop culture icon. Falcon as we've seen him in the MCU isn't that guy. That's why this movie won't work.
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You called it
You're not making any sense and it seems you just want to really hammer the diversity movement no matter what and you don't care if what you say adds up so long as you hammer.
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Makes perfect sense, the show was poorly reviewed which bodes poorly for the upcoming movie. Nothing complicated about that opinion.

You keep wanting to make this about race when anyone simply gives their opinion about MCU Falcon not being worthy to be Cap. It's nothing to do with race, so there's no need to keep bringing it back to that.

Would be good to hear some actual reasons from you why you think MCU Falcon is worthy to be Cap without referring to some version of the comics. So far you haven't done that as far as I can tell.

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You called it "forced and woke" and had youtube clips with click baiters talking about DEI and sheet.

Now you are trying to make out like it never had anything to do with race. Come on now.

You say it was forced but you want Bucky as Cap when he doesn't have the morals, principles or temperament of Cap's legacy, and doesn't have the backing of comic book cannon. Bucky would have been forced and reverse woke, which should be just as bad as woke if you were being sincere.

You've given no valid reasons why Bucky or anyone else should have succeeded cap ahead of Falcon apart from

-Its forced
-Its woke
-The movie is sheet

The first is nonsense as it's cannon. The second invokes race and other cultural war matters. The third is a concern of the studio and writers, not the actor or the character.

The upshot is that as far as I can see apart from race and/or cultural matters, there's no valid reason for being against this, and if it walks like a duck...

Unless you can do better than just saying it's forced and woke because that doesn't make sense.