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He's a good footballer when on form which he is, and England's options in midfield are limited
Can't say that there's that much of a gulf in class between Shelvey and the other central midfielders on that list.
Might as well have someone who can bring out a bit of the unexpected.
Hes brilliant on the ball, can use both feet, slow can't tackle and can't read the game defensively also prone to switching off still. If we're playing 3 at the back might get away with him if the extra CB picks up the players that he lefts run past him.
The England options in midfield look poor when you compare them with France, Spain and the latin Americans. Even the group games look tough with what England can field, the thought of what Hazard and KDB will do to England if we have the likes of Shelvey, Horrenderson and Divey Alli doesn't bear thinking about.
England flopped with midfield consisting of Gerrard, Scholes, Lampard, Rooney etc. It literally cannot get any worse bringing Shelvey along. Worldcup is full of surprises
Agree with the Op.
Shelvey would be this team's Scott Parker.
Inbefore - but he's not brilliant on the ball; he's not good at dribbling nor delivering accurate passes.
Again are you SURE we're talking about the same player?!
LFC_ICE - finally! Some common sense!
It literally can NOT get worse than Shelvey!
Hence why England are taking Loftus-Cheek and Lallana instead x
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Cara - when? When was he a good player?
When was this mythical ancient period of good form?
Sure as hell isn't fresh in my memory!
Are all the dippers defending him because he had s handfull of good games for them half a decade ago?!
Can't fault your loyalty, your judgement a thousand times yes, but your loyalty is untouchable x
Shelvey can be really good. But he is inconsistent, and has discipline problems. Which is code for saying he is thick as two short planks. I wouldn't take him.
Disagree. He has an excellent long pass on him. Always did. A good shot too. The issue with him is that he's slow as hell and not very energetic. His style looks lazy. But when you think about players who can create for England, he's one of a few.
The Iniesta of the North East?
The Panamanians will be dancing in the street over this!
Disagree. He has an excellent long pass on him. Always did. A good shot too. The issue with him is that he's slow as hell and not very energetic. His style looks lazy
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You're basically describing Darron Gibson.
Agree with the OP. I'm not a fan. Saying that, I'd have him over Jake fecking Livermore.
The guy is underated. He is one of the few with a good passing range in England. You have to consider that playing for Benitez you need to be disciplined in your defensive duties.
He would be a good option from the bench when you want to play quick long balls from the back.
His weaknesses are slow and rash in the tackles.
The only England player with technical quality and high energy in midfield is Lallana.
Wilshere has the technic but lacks the energy.
I can see both arguments tbh. If you're picking England midfielders on form alone then there's not really an x factor in midfield as most of them are all pretty similar players. Shelvey would definitely be a gamble though
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posted on 15/5/18
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posted on 15/5/18
He's a good footballer when on form which he is, and England's options in midfield are limited
posted on 15/5/18
Can't say that there's that much of a gulf in class between Shelvey and the other central midfielders on that list.
Might as well have someone who can bring out a bit of the unexpected.
posted on 15/5/18
Hes brilliant on the ball, can use both feet, slow can't tackle and can't read the game defensively also prone to switching off still. If we're playing 3 at the back might get away with him if the extra CB picks up the players that he lefts run past him.
posted on 15/5/18
The England options in midfield look poor when you compare them with France, Spain and the latin Americans. Even the group games look tough with what England can field, the thought of what Hazard and KDB will do to England if we have the likes of Shelvey, Horrenderson and Divey Alli doesn't bear thinking about.
posted on 16/5/18
England flopped with midfield consisting of Gerrard, Scholes, Lampard, Rooney etc. It literally cannot get any worse bringing Shelvey along. Worldcup is full of surprises
posted on 16/5/18
Agree with the Op.
Shelvey would be this team's Scott Parker.
posted on 16/5/18
Inbefore - but he's not brilliant on the ball; he's not good at dribbling nor delivering accurate passes.
Again are you SURE we're talking about the same player?!
LFC_ICE - finally! Some common sense!
It literally can NOT get worse than Shelvey!
Hence why England are taking Loftus-Cheek and Lallana instead x
posted on 16/5/18
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posted on 16/5/18
Cara - when? When was he a good player?
When was this mythical ancient period of good form?
Sure as hell isn't fresh in my memory!
Are all the dippers defending him because he had s handfull of good games for them half a decade ago?!
Can't fault your loyalty, your judgement a thousand times yes, but your loyalty is untouchable x
posted on 16/5/18
Shelvey can be really good. But he is inconsistent, and has discipline problems. Which is code for saying he is thick as two short planks. I wouldn't take him.
posted on 16/5/18
Disagree. He has an excellent long pass on him. Always did. A good shot too. The issue with him is that he's slow as hell and not very energetic. His style looks lazy. But when you think about players who can create for England, he's one of a few.
posted on 16/5/18
The Iniesta of the North East?
The Panamanians will be dancing in the street over this!
posted on 16/5/18
Disagree. He has an excellent long pass on him. Always did. A good shot too. The issue with him is that he's slow as hell and not very energetic. His style looks lazy
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You're basically describing Darron Gibson.
Agree with the OP. I'm not a fan. Saying that, I'd have him over Jake fecking Livermore.
posted on 16/5/18
The guy is underated. He is one of the few with a good passing range in England. You have to consider that playing for Benitez you need to be disciplined in your defensive duties.
He would be a good option from the bench when you want to play quick long balls from the back.
His weaknesses are slow and rash in the tackles.
The only England player with technical quality and high energy in midfield is Lallana.
Wilshere has the technic but lacks the energy.
posted on 16/5/18
I can see both arguments tbh. If you're picking England midfielders on form alone then there's not really an x factor in midfield as most of them are all pretty similar players. Shelvey would definitely be a gamble though
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