If it is Lampard, I'll have a punt who'll be his assistant.
comment by Strett (U1462)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
As much as Clough going back would be amusing; Lampard would be absolutely hilarious
I'm happy with either.
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Remind me how the proven Championship managers Warburton and Karanka have got on at your place? Your logic is flawed.
Bet Victor has now suspended betting "as it seems likely that Lampard will take the job"
comment by Strett (U1462)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
As much as Clough going back would be amusing; Lampard would be absolutely hilarious
I'm happy with either.
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Strett. As a Forest fan you'll never be happy again. face up to it!
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 7 minutes ago
Bet Victor has now suspended betting "as it seems likely that Lampard will take the job"
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How do you think this will go?
Is it 'worth a punt'?
In Derby's dire situation is it the time to be gambling? It reeks of the guy who has bloodshot eyes at 5:00am in the casino in Monte Carlo, putting his car on black!!
I hope, and I sincerely mean this, he doesn't make your situation worse.
Certainly wouldn't put it on red, always a let down but hey you know that already.
Welcome aboard Frank
Rumours are you have interviewed Dean Holdsworth
comment by Strett (U1462)
posted 1 minute ago
Rumours are you have interviewed Dean Holdsworth
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If he applied does he not have the right to an interview?
Clint Walker has died, he was a hero of mine when I were a lad. The signature tune was Cheyenne Cheyenne where have you been camping tonight.
I wonder if he would have made a good football manager?
Bronco Layne was another favourite.
Only if short-listed Tommo. Or out of courtesy.
Frank Lampard oh dear, well at least there will be some one good looking in the Directors box to distract the mutton heads from the score board!
By half way through next season you will all be wishing Lozenge Head didn't push out G.R!
You really coouldn't make this up what a shower; MM is the new fawaz without the hair or the tan.
Remember the Derby way? does Mel because he's gone seriously OFF MESSAGE.
I will miss you once your in Division 1 bye bye....
I will answer this as if you were posing the question seriously, Strett.
I would be against it. I think there is tremendous risk. I would prefer somebody who had done well previously at lower levels or smaller clubs, and who wanted to step up in his career, like Dean Smith. But there is risk there too. Derby (and Forest) have had all sizes and shapes of managers, pretty much, in recent years. I was against McLaren's appointments both times, thought Clement was ideal, was unsure about Pearson and Rowett. Fans know nowt and you just can't tell how things will pan out because there are all sorts of things behind the scenes at clubs that we are not privy to.
What are Lampard's motives? Does he genuinely want to manage for the rest of his career because the day to day of football is so much in his blood that nothing else will do? Or is he just giving it a bit of a go, safe in the knowledge that if he fails he has a cushy life of punditry as a backup?
I suppose I would find it reassuring to some extent that Lampard would want the job in the first place. If all is dire as you suggest, why would he go into a no-win situation? At the very least he must think Derby are a better option than Ipswich.
I would be very happy about Jody Morris being part of it as he is said to be very highly rated wit the young 'uns at Chelsea. That would suggest a bit of a longer-term plan which is needed.
For me it is not a risk worth taking but of course it could all go very well. Brian Clough did not have much experience when he came to Derby. Lampard has always come across as a very likeable and intelligent guy but that means little. It would be crucial that the right people were around him. I guess he would be working as a coach so would need a Director of Football type who he trusted and who could take all of that stuff off him.
Could work and I would be excited by the prospect, though also terrified. I reckon it comes down to his character and motivation. When things are not going well, as will surely occur, how much will he be hankering after London life and the easy money of the Sky sofa?
RFB
Did you see my previous message? I meant it. If you have the issues I suspect I genuinely admire you.
It's a good analysis, Vidal.
Would he want money? Who knows. Will he bring John Terry and see it as a personal crusade to say to the English football followers that they are the real deal?
He does come across as intelligent and ticks a lot of boxes as far as corporate appeal goes, too.
How would he be with the academy? Wasn't GR tasked with using it more, but didn't? You spend lots on it and see little reward.
The big risk must be, does he bring uncle 'arry with him? By all accounts you are sailing close to FFP violation, so are these the best combos?
Many questions hang above this appointment which, for the sake of the long suffering fans, need addressing.
comment by Red Forest Bear ( Bear Knows) (U6288)
posted 5 minutes ago
Frank Lampard oh dear, well at least there will be some one good looking in the Directors box to distract the mutton heads from the score board!
By half way through next season you will all be wishing Lozenge Head didn't push out G.R!
You really coouldn't make this up what a shower; MM is the new fawaz without the hair or the tan.
Remember the Derby way? does Mel because he's gone seriously OFF MESSAGE.
I will miss you once your in Division 1 bye bye....
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Even for you, that is some mess.
Cut him a bit of slack, Igor.
There you have it Strett. Vidal has given you a full and honest answer which is more than I had the patience for. Do with it what you will. But try to keep the faith with YOUR club rather than ours.
comment by Red Forest Bear ( Bear Knows) (U6288)
posted 9 minutes ago
Frank Lampard oh dear, well at least there will be some one good looking in the Directors box to distract the mutton heads from the score board!
By half way through next season you will all be wishing Lozenge Head didn't push out G.R!
You really coouldn't make this up what a shower; MM is the new fawaz without the hair or the tan.
Remember the Derby way? does Mel because he's gone seriously OFF MESSAGE.
I will miss you once your in Division 1 bye bye....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Even by your standards, your articles are getting more and more bizarre. If I was you, I would worry
Forest, Ramdini are the most stable and dare I say it, best run, most Forest fans have seen for many a year.
Most are optimistic about the coming season, we have a proven manager at this level and a budget to strengthen. Season card sales are up again and there is a real feel good about the place after we have gotten rid of Mel Mo... sorry Fawaz.
Juxtapose that with what you guys are going through and you can see why there is a bit of concern.
It's just a shame that both of our great clubs don't seem to be able to get it together at the same time.
Don't be too harsh on him, View. There may be stuff we don't know about.
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 2 minutes ago
Don't be too harsh on him, View. There may be stuff we don't know about.
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There's plenty of stuff that HE doesn't know about, that's for fcking certain.
Look, if you appoint someone who was a good player once and is now more at home working at the world cup for the BBC; who has no experience or evidence that he possesses any of the necessary skills and qualities to be a successful coach, it should be seen as nothing more than a gamble.
Is that what you need right now?
You're very sunny side up, Strett. Forest flirted yet again with relegation and the performances deteriorated after Karanka came in. He has a proven record of being absolutely tedious as well as mentally unstable. The owner had an incredibly shady past with various extremely serious allegations of match-fixing, drug-trafficking and others which continue to hang over him.
Forest seem to always have a "real feel good" about the place, no matter what. I remember your eulogies over the magical football under Montanier, for example. The best you had ever seen I think. It's quite charming to see the naive optimism each year, undented by the wisdom of experience. Long may it continue for you. I predict a bright start, a long decline, 4 or 6 points for Derby against Forest and us finishing way, way, above you.
As per.
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 18 minutes ago
You're very sunny side up, Strett. Forest flirted yet again with relegation and the performances deteriorated after Karanka came in. He has a proven record of being absolutely tedious as well as mentally unstable. The owner had an incredibly shady past with various extremely serious allegations of match-fixing, drug-trafficking and others which continue to hang over him.
Forest seem to always have a "real feel good" about the place, no matter what. I remember your eulogies over the magical football under Montanier, for example. The best you had ever seen I think. It's quite charming to see the naive optimism each year, undented by the wisdom of experience. Long may it continue for you. I predict a bright start, a long decline, 4 or 6 points for Derby against Forest and us finishing way, way, above you.
As per.
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posted on 25/5/18
If it is Lampard, I'll have a punt who'll be his assistant.
posted on 25/5/18
comment by Strett (U1462)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
As much as Clough going back would be amusing; Lampard would be absolutely hilarious
I'm happy with either.
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Remind me how the proven Championship managers Warburton and Karanka have got on at your place? Your logic is flawed.
posted on 25/5/18
Bet Victor has now suspended betting "as it seems likely that Lampard will take the job"
posted on 25/5/18
comment by Strett (U1462)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
As much as Clough going back would be amusing; Lampard would be absolutely hilarious
I'm happy with either.
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Strett. As a Forest fan you'll never be happy again. face up to it!
posted on 25/5/18
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 7 minutes ago
Bet Victor has now suspended betting "as it seems likely that Lampard will take the job"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How do you think this will go?
Is it 'worth a punt'?
In Derby's dire situation is it the time to be gambling? It reeks of the guy who has bloodshot eyes at 5:00am in the casino in Monte Carlo, putting his car on black!!
I hope, and I sincerely mean this, he doesn't make your situation worse.
posted on 25/5/18
Certainly wouldn't put it on red, always a let down but hey you know that already.
Welcome aboard Frank
posted on 25/5/18
Rumours are you have interviewed Dean Holdsworth
posted on 25/5/18
comment by Strett (U1462)
posted 1 minute ago
Rumours are you have interviewed Dean Holdsworth
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If he applied does he not have the right to an interview?
posted on 25/5/18
Clint Walker has died, he was a hero of mine when I were a lad. The signature tune was Cheyenne Cheyenne where have you been camping tonight.
I wonder if he would have made a good football manager?
Bronco Layne was another favourite.
posted on 25/5/18
Only if short-listed Tommo. Or out of courtesy.
posted on 25/5/18
Frank Lampard oh dear, well at least there will be some one good looking in the Directors box to distract the mutton heads from the score board!
By half way through next season you will all be wishing Lozenge Head didn't push out G.R!
You really coouldn't make this up what a shower; MM is the new fawaz without the hair or the tan.
Remember the Derby way? does Mel because he's gone seriously OFF MESSAGE.
I will miss you once your in Division 1 bye bye....
posted on 25/5/18
I will answer this as if you were posing the question seriously, Strett.
I would be against it. I think there is tremendous risk. I would prefer somebody who had done well previously at lower levels or smaller clubs, and who wanted to step up in his career, like Dean Smith. But there is risk there too. Derby (and Forest) have had all sizes and shapes of managers, pretty much, in recent years. I was against McLaren's appointments both times, thought Clement was ideal, was unsure about Pearson and Rowett. Fans know nowt and you just can't tell how things will pan out because there are all sorts of things behind the scenes at clubs that we are not privy to.
What are Lampard's motives? Does he genuinely want to manage for the rest of his career because the day to day of football is so much in his blood that nothing else will do? Or is he just giving it a bit of a go, safe in the knowledge that if he fails he has a cushy life of punditry as a backup?
I suppose I would find it reassuring to some extent that Lampard would want the job in the first place. If all is dire as you suggest, why would he go into a no-win situation? At the very least he must think Derby are a better option than Ipswich.
I would be very happy about Jody Morris being part of it as he is said to be very highly rated wit the young 'uns at Chelsea. That would suggest a bit of a longer-term plan which is needed.
For me it is not a risk worth taking but of course it could all go very well. Brian Clough did not have much experience when he came to Derby. Lampard has always come across as a very likeable and intelligent guy but that means little. It would be crucial that the right people were around him. I guess he would be working as a coach so would need a Director of Football type who he trusted and who could take all of that stuff off him.
Could work and I would be excited by the prospect, though also terrified. I reckon it comes down to his character and motivation. When things are not going well, as will surely occur, how much will he be hankering after London life and the easy money of the Sky sofa?
posted on 25/5/18
RFB
Did you see my previous message? I meant it. If you have the issues I suspect I genuinely admire you.
posted on 25/5/18
It's a good analysis, Vidal.
Would he want money? Who knows. Will he bring John Terry and see it as a personal crusade to say to the English football followers that they are the real deal?
He does come across as intelligent and ticks a lot of boxes as far as corporate appeal goes, too.
How would he be with the academy? Wasn't GR tasked with using it more, but didn't? You spend lots on it and see little reward.
The big risk must be, does he bring uncle 'arry with him? By all accounts you are sailing close to FFP violation, so are these the best combos?
Many questions hang above this appointment which, for the sake of the long suffering fans, need addressing.
posted on 25/5/18
comment by Red Forest Bear ( Bear Knows) (U6288)
posted 5 minutes ago
Frank Lampard oh dear, well at least there will be some one good looking in the Directors box to distract the mutton heads from the score board!
By half way through next season you will all be wishing Lozenge Head didn't push out G.R!
You really coouldn't make this up what a shower; MM is the new fawaz without the hair or the tan.
Remember the Derby way? does Mel because he's gone seriously OFF MESSAGE.
I will miss you once your in Division 1 bye bye....
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Even for you, that is some mess.
posted on 25/5/18
Cut him a bit of slack, Igor.
posted on 25/5/18
There you have it Strett. Vidal has given you a full and honest answer which is more than I had the patience for. Do with it what you will. But try to keep the faith with YOUR club rather than ours.
posted on 25/5/18
comment by Red Forest Bear ( Bear Knows) (U6288)
posted 9 minutes ago
Frank Lampard oh dear, well at least there will be some one good looking in the Directors box to distract the mutton heads from the score board!
By half way through next season you will all be wishing Lozenge Head didn't push out G.R!
You really coouldn't make this up what a shower; MM is the new fawaz without the hair or the tan.
Remember the Derby way? does Mel because he's gone seriously OFF MESSAGE.
I will miss you once your in Division 1 bye bye....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Even by your standards, your articles are getting more and more bizarre. If I was you, I would worry
posted on 25/5/18
Forest, Ramdini are the most stable and dare I say it, best run, most Forest fans have seen for many a year.
Most are optimistic about the coming season, we have a proven manager at this level and a budget to strengthen. Season card sales are up again and there is a real feel good about the place after we have gotten rid of Mel Mo... sorry Fawaz.
Juxtapose that with what you guys are going through and you can see why there is a bit of concern.
It's just a shame that both of our great clubs don't seem to be able to get it together at the same time.
posted on 25/5/18
Don't be too harsh on him, View. There may be stuff we don't know about.
posted on 25/5/18
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 2 minutes ago
Don't be too harsh on him, View. There may be stuff we don't know about.
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There's plenty of stuff that HE doesn't know about, that's for fcking certain.
posted on 25/5/18
Look, if you appoint someone who was a good player once and is now more at home working at the world cup for the BBC; who has no experience or evidence that he possesses any of the necessary skills and qualities to be a successful coach, it should be seen as nothing more than a gamble.
Is that what you need right now?
posted on 25/5/18
You're very sunny side up, Strett. Forest flirted yet again with relegation and the performances deteriorated after Karanka came in. He has a proven record of being absolutely tedious as well as mentally unstable. The owner had an incredibly shady past with various extremely serious allegations of match-fixing, drug-trafficking and others which continue to hang over him.
Forest seem to always have a "real feel good" about the place, no matter what. I remember your eulogies over the magical football under Montanier, for example. The best you had ever seen I think. It's quite charming to see the naive optimism each year, undented by the wisdom of experience. Long may it continue for you. I predict a bright start, a long decline, 4 or 6 points for Derby against Forest and us finishing way, way, above you.
As per.
posted on 25/5/18
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 18 minutes ago
You're very sunny side up, Strett. Forest flirted yet again with relegation and the performances deteriorated after Karanka came in. He has a proven record of being absolutely tedious as well as mentally unstable. The owner had an incredibly shady past with various extremely serious allegations of match-fixing, drug-trafficking and others which continue to hang over him.
Forest seem to always have a "real feel good" about the place, no matter what. I remember your eulogies over the magical football under Montanier, for example. The best you had ever seen I think. It's quite charming to see the naive optimism each year, undented by the wisdom of experience. Long may it continue for you. I predict a bright start, a long decline, 4 or 6 points for Derby against Forest and us finishing way, way, above you.
As per.
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Vidal knows
posted on 25/5/18
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