I've yet to watch the stage (gutted I didn't watch it live), and I don't know if Froome's clean or not, but from a neutral viewer's perspective (in this case), these astonishing rides are what makes GT racing such a gripping spectacle.
It inevitably brings back memories of Floyd Landis' famous breakaway in 2006, but even though Froome's already tainted, unless he's done for doping on this Giro I reckon yesterday's ride one will go down as one of the greatest in the history of the race.
Tbh, I've become ambivalent over the whole issue of doping in cycling. I've always rooted for the Spanish riders, but never really believed in Delgado's innocence, am convinced that Induraín was on sweeties, was always suspicious of Pereiro's condoning of proven dopers, and, of course, never bought Contador's contaminated steak story. And that's without even starting on the Puerto case and Valverde's dog's name.
It seems to simply be a case of who dopes best, as a little scrutiny of all of Armstrong's companions on the podium in his 7 TdFs quickly bears out. All but one of them (over a dozen riders, if memory serves) either tested positive or were invlved in doping scandals during their careers. The one who didn't was Fernando Escartín, who placed third in 1999 riding for the Kelme team that was later accused of having a systematic doping programme.
Put it this way, exactly how shocked would you honestly be if before too long Dumoulin returned a positive test, was found to be abusing TUEs, returned abnormal hematocrit values or it was revealed he failed to report his whereabouts at certain times?
Either way, there's no doubting the effort the guys put in on the road, often in horrendous conditions and at risk of life and limb.
I rarely watch the racing nowadays, but when I do I just try to enjoy it.
Get back on your toddlers bike creep.
Not you IOAG. ,this guys a dummy..
Ok, Harl.
Go easy on him, he's probably just hurting because his compatriot was ridden off top spot.
As can be inferred from my above post though, believing the riders you root for are any cleaner than the rest has shown time and again to be rooted more in suspension of disbelief and wishful thinking than anything else. That's stil where we're at, unfortunately.
Yatesy lad had said he died a thousand deaths last third of the time trial,he wasnt joking,miserable day
The OP are just the opinions of a clog wearing donkey.
None of us know if he's clean or not. Come to think of it, none of us know if any of them are clean out not. What we do know is that he was cleared to ride and that, in all probability, the testers will be all over him like a cheap suit at every opportunity - and rightly so.
I for one salute his achievement. Matching the record of Merckx and Hinault is no gimme.
Used to really like Froome but his achievements are tainted with suspicion now. In an era when climbs are being done more slowly in the Grand Tours as there is far less doping, so riders are cleaner, Froome is getting faster and breaking records. If he wind this years TDF I will not be able to believe it will de done clean. From a physiological stand point it is incredibly difficult, if not impossible, to maintain form like that for that length of time after the Giro. Not only that it takes a lot out of you and as we all know the TDF is even tougher than the Giro. If he wins the TDF this year it will be impossible for me to believe it has been done clean.
Dope using crackhead. No way he's clean.
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Oh dear.
Don't agree with his being dropped from the TdF. Not his fault the authorities haven't dealt with the case more expediently.
Whatever Froome and Sky are up to, it needs to be proven beyond any doubt.
The weight of suspicion alone cannot be enough. Guilt by suspicion could end up doing more to kill the sport than doping itself.
I'm not sure why it has now become the fashion to accuse any decent athlete of doping. See it s lot in boxing as well.
"...If someone is fraudulent in a business, wouldn't they be facing a prison term? I don't see how riders taking drugs to win races and lying to their teams is any different. Bang them up and throw away the key!"
- Geraint Thomas
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 2 hours, 40 minutes ago
"...If someone is fraudulent in a business, wouldn't they be facing a prison term? I don't see how riders taking drugs to win races and lying to their teams is any different. Bang them up and throw away the key!"
- Geraint Thomas
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not before making a few replacement keys to smuggle in the drugs.
Tbh I suspect Froome is dirty, as are nearly all of them.
Dumoulin played right into Sky's hands today. Poor tactics not to let Thomas do the work of trying to reel Roglic in.
Fantastic riding by Roglic, it must be said.
comment by The_Red_Cognoscente (U9741)
posted 6 days, 18 hours ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 2 hours, 40 minutes ago
"...If someone is fraudulent in a business, wouldn't they be facing a prison term? I don't see how riders taking drugs to win races and lying to their teams is any different. Bang them up and throw away the key!"
- Geraint Thomas
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Not before making a few replacement keys to smuggle in the drugs.
Tbh I suspect Froome is dirty, as are nearly all of them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Then why bother with this event. If the assumption is that everyone is at it, either cancel the bluddy thing for good or just don't bother testing. Best drug cheat wins.
Well done Geraint Thomas, there's a torrent of abuse about to come your way, and yes, well done Chris Froome for past endeavours. Matching Merckx an Hinault it's no gimme when we're told that everyone else in the race is taking drugs too.
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posted on 26/5/18
I've yet to watch the stage (gutted I didn't watch it live), and I don't know if Froome's clean or not, but from a neutral viewer's perspective (in this case), these astonishing rides are what makes GT racing such a gripping spectacle.
It inevitably brings back memories of Floyd Landis' famous breakaway in 2006, but even though Froome's already tainted, unless he's done for doping on this Giro I reckon yesterday's ride one will go down as one of the greatest in the history of the race.
Tbh, I've become ambivalent over the whole issue of doping in cycling. I've always rooted for the Spanish riders, but never really believed in Delgado's innocence, am convinced that Induraín was on sweeties, was always suspicious of Pereiro's condoning of proven dopers, and, of course, never bought Contador's contaminated steak story. And that's without even starting on the Puerto case and Valverde's dog's name.
It seems to simply be a case of who dopes best, as a little scrutiny of all of Armstrong's companions on the podium in his 7 TdFs quickly bears out. All but one of them (over a dozen riders, if memory serves) either tested positive or were invlved in doping scandals during their careers. The one who didn't was Fernando Escartín, who placed third in 1999 riding for the Kelme team that was later accused of having a systematic doping programme.
Put it this way, exactly how shocked would you honestly be if before too long Dumoulin returned a positive test, was found to be abusing TUEs, returned abnormal hematocrit values or it was revealed he failed to report his whereabouts at certain times?
Either way, there's no doubting the effort the guys put in on the road, often in horrendous conditions and at risk of life and limb.
I rarely watch the racing nowadays, but when I do I just try to enjoy it.
posted on 26/5/18
Get back on your toddlers bike creep.
posted on 26/5/18
Not you IOAG. ,this guys a dummy..
posted on 26/5/18
Ok, Harl.
Go easy on him, he's probably just hurting because his compatriot was ridden off top spot.
As can be inferred from my above post though, believing the riders you root for are any cleaner than the rest has shown time and again to be rooted more in suspension of disbelief and wishful thinking than anything else. That's stil where we're at, unfortunately.
posted on 26/5/18
Yatesy lad had said he died a thousand deaths last third of the time trial,he wasnt joking,miserable day
posted on 26/5/18
The OP are just the opinions of a clog wearing donkey.
None of us know if he's clean or not. Come to think of it, none of us know if any of them are clean out not. What we do know is that he was cleared to ride and that, in all probability, the testers will be all over him like a cheap suit at every opportunity - and rightly so.
I for one salute his achievement. Matching the record of Merckx and Hinault is no gimme.
posted on 24/6/18
Used to really like Froome but his achievements are tainted with suspicion now. In an era when climbs are being done more slowly in the Grand Tours as there is far less doping, so riders are cleaner, Froome is getting faster and breaking records. If he wind this years TDF I will not be able to believe it will de done clean. From a physiological stand point it is incredibly difficult, if not impossible, to maintain form like that for that length of time after the Giro. Not only that it takes a lot out of you and as we all know the TDF is even tougher than the Giro. If he wins the TDF this year it will be impossible for me to believe it has been done clean.
posted on 2/7/18
Dope using crackhead. No way he's clean.
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Oh dear.
posted on 2/7/18
Don't agree with his being dropped from the TdF. Not his fault the authorities haven't dealt with the case more expediently.
Whatever Froome and Sky are up to, it needs to be proven beyond any doubt.
The weight of suspicion alone cannot be enough. Guilt by suspicion could end up doing more to kill the sport than doping itself.
posted on 16/7/18
I'm not sure why it has now become the fashion to accuse any decent athlete of doping. See it s lot in boxing as well.
posted on 21/7/18
"...If someone is fraudulent in a business, wouldn't they be facing a prison term? I don't see how riders taking drugs to win races and lying to their teams is any different. Bang them up and throw away the key!"
- Geraint Thomas
posted on 21/7/18
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 2 hours, 40 minutes ago
"...If someone is fraudulent in a business, wouldn't they be facing a prison term? I don't see how riders taking drugs to win races and lying to their teams is any different. Bang them up and throw away the key!"
- Geraint Thomas
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not before making a few replacement keys to smuggle in the drugs.
Tbh I suspect Froome is dirty, as are nearly all of them.
posted on 27/7/18
Dumoulin played right into Sky's hands today. Poor tactics not to let Thomas do the work of trying to reel Roglic in.
Fantastic riding by Roglic, it must be said.
posted on 28/7/18
comment by The_Red_Cognoscente (U9741)
posted 6 days, 18 hours ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 2 hours, 40 minutes ago
"...If someone is fraudulent in a business, wouldn't they be facing a prison term? I don't see how riders taking drugs to win races and lying to their teams is any different. Bang them up and throw away the key!"
- Geraint Thomas
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not before making a few replacement keys to smuggle in the drugs.
Tbh I suspect Froome is dirty, as are nearly all of them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Then why bother with this event. If the assumption is that everyone is at it, either cancel the bluddy thing for good or just don't bother testing. Best drug cheat wins.
Well done Geraint Thomas, there's a torrent of abuse about to come your way, and yes, well done Chris Froome for past endeavours. Matching Merckx an Hinault it's no gimme when we're told that everyone else in the race is taking drugs too.
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