You are being picky. They all played well. I agree with your choice of MOTM he, agin, had a very good game. Bennett did make some poorest decisions but he will learn. Otherwise he's as strong as an ox and very quick. Wisdom was only on for a few minutes so it was fruitless to judge him. Bogle had a good game against very high class players. Bryson, as you say played well. Then I come back to - everyone played well.

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As I say,I know it is a microscopic view of a great performance and I acknowledge that - I’m not trying to be too negative on a historic night - it just jumped out at how exposed Bogle was.

We need to ,learn from that and have a plan,but not at the expense of Johnson, who will be awesome in this ‘ new role’

TBF to Bogle he was up against Martial - who was virtually unplayable. I was sat right behind Bogle first half. Any RB would have struggled. Give the lad a chance, he’s been excellent so far this season.

Must admit to being quite disappointed at times so far this season but the last 2 games have shown what we are capable of. We literally out-played one of the finest club sides on the planet last night - full of ‘superstars’

I think we are getting there. What entertainment it was!

On a side note I wonder if Laurwence and Davis will struggle to get back in the team??

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I still remain unconvinced with Bennett.
He needs a goal but he works really hard but then again so did Conor Sammon.
Lawrence for Bennett seems the obvious switch with Bennett on as an impact sub where he has proved more effective.
I’m not so sure either Wilson or Lawrence will be any better helping Bogle out but against that he won’t be facing the likes of Martial every week.

Bennettt and Forsyth are our weak link in my opinion the players who are improving because of the 2 lads from Chelsea and Liverpool is Johnson,

Wassa, agreed. I also think we are SO much better without Huddz, as much as I like him. The tempo is far, FAR superior without him.

Johnson is the two lads from Chelsea and Liverpool, I have under estimated him. Does this mean we are going in to games with only 9 men?

comment by 🐑 Baz.🐑. My lamp is hard. (U2480)
posted 8 seconds ago
Wassa, agreed. I also think we are SO much better without Huddz, as much as I like him. The tempo is far, FAR superior without him
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Baz knows

There might be some weaknesses in the team, but the difference at the moment is that the players are working for each other, as a team, and if Bennett isn't providing the shield others are stepping in so that he can do what he's better at. Nobody wants to lose.

It's the opposite of the mentality we've often seen in the past, or the mentality you see in teams like Stoke right now, where none of the players care if they're throwing other players under the bus.

I think I understand where Ruberyram is coming from. Some of Bennett's decisions were a little frustrating last night but I see him in the Russell mould. He'll get better and offer us something on the right but in equal measure could frustrate too. He's showing signs of improvement and needs encouragement.

Keogh was the worry for me.

Who gave the ball away for Man Utd's opening goal?

Bennett can do something most players in the Championship can't do. Cross a ball in to the penalty area.

You pick players for their strengths, not their weaknesses.

True Spart but players get left out because of their weaknesses.
Bennett needs to add goals to his game or Lawrence will take his place.

We have a great young side blended with age and experience such as Forsyth, Bryson and Johnson in the process of proving to be a winning combination. It would be madness to get rid of any of our young talents. Almost no player has everything. Bennett is no different. He makes wrong decisions (who doesn't). But he has strength and a low C of G. which he uses to battle away in tight situations and come out with the ball. You do not find talents like Wilson and Mount everyday of the week. Bogle and Bennett are worth persevering with.

Bogle yes.

Bennett has been given more chances than he deserves by Derby and if he weren’t one of our own then there would be no one defending him.
We have Lawrence and Holmes ready to come in and Bennett is not making a good case for himself.

Impact sub Yes. Starter No.

So why would you place an unknown quantity like Holmes ahead of Bennett? Bennett has already won us 4 points with his timely crosses. He could have won us 2 more against Blackburn had FloJo buried a free header from his cross. It seems like fans have to find someone to attack in some way. It is the same at every club.

Why do you think Bennett deserved fewer chances Rameses? I will leave the decision of who to play to Frank.

Did I miss something ?
Did Bennett play badly on Tuesday ?

I don't think anybody really played badly, Keogh was a bit of a worry at times, as usual, but by all accounts we outplayed an expensive Man Utd. team full of international players at Old Trafford and were unlucky not to win in the 90 minutes.

Like I said, every player has some weaknesses, but in a team the players around them acknowledge that, and their strengths plug the gaps. Nobody out there was on their own.

comment by Rameses (U7190)
posted 46 minutes ago

Bogle yes.

Bennett has been given more chances than he deserves by Derby and if he weren’t one of our own then there would be no one defending him.
We have Lawrence and Holmes ready to come in and Bennett is not making a good case for himself.

Impact sub Yes. Starter No.



Josefzoon or Lawrence in for Bennet is no brainer for me

comment by I'm not Spartacus, to be quite Frank (U4603)
posted 56 minutes ago
So why would you place an unknown quantity like Holmes ahead of Bennett? Bennett has already won us 4 points with his timely crosses. He could have won us 2 more against Blackburn had FloJo buried a free header from his cross. It seems like fans have to find someone to attack in some way. It is the same at every club.

Why do you think Bennett deserved fewer chances Rameses? I will leave the decision of who to play to Frank.
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lots of common sense in their - thanks very much Spartacus.

And I know that Frank welcomes the opportunity to make these decisions unencumbered to advice from us.

Remember Clough remarking that he felt constantly under pressure from 666 and it eventually led to his departure......

I think Frank has cottoned on to the fact that he should do the exact opposite of what 666 believes and suggests.

Just to clarify then.

Bennett has as long as he wants to prove that he is good enough to keep our other wingers on the bench?

Please note that his two assists came when he was used as an impact sub.

Do we count every cross made by every other player that didn't lead to a goal as proof of their quality?

No we do not.

Take the rose tinted specs off.
We have better in the squad than Bennett right now.

By the way this used to be a forum for debate so Heb if you have nothing to contribute stick to the match thread.

Getting pretty fed up with the direction its taking.

I have a reactalite grey tint to my glasses Rameses. I think Lampard will stick with a winning line up, just like virtually every other manager on the planet. Lawrence will have to wait his turn to impress after his stupidity at Rotherham.

I’m not saying Bennett has no part to play I just don’t think he’s a starter.
I think Bennett has given Frank a reason to leave him on the bench as he hasn’t proven himself enough to keep Lawrence out.
We’ll see on Saturday what the Gaffer thinks.