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posted on 23/10/18

comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 46 seconds ago
Lampard and Cech had more options than Jose?

Just when you think he's hit the stupidy ceiling.
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Yes of course they did... I don't think there is any doubt or controversy about that statement.
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If Jose had less big club options than a 36 year old midfielder well past his prime then that says a lot about how far he has fallen.
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THink this is a bit of stupid point. Big teams have more space for players (a squad) than they would for a manager (one man)

posted on 23/10/18

comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 46 seconds ago
Lampard and Cech had more options than Jose?

Just when you think he's hit the stupidy ceiling.
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Yes of course they did... I don't think there is any doubt or controversy about that statement.
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If Jose had less big club options than a 36 year old midfielder well past his prime then that says a lot about how far he has fallen.
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No it doesn't, the options a manager has are completely different to those a player has. For one, a club can only have one manager, so that immediately rules out the vast majority of clubs for any manager looking for work.

posted on 23/10/18

comment by SilvaLining (U21951)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 46 seconds ago
Lampard and Cech had more options than Jose?

Just when you think he's hit the stupidy ceiling.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes of course they did... I don't think there is any doubt or controversy about that statement.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If Jose had less big club options than a 36 year old midfielder well past his prime then that says a lot about how far he has fallen.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
THink this is a bit of stupid point. Big teams have more space for players (a squad) than they would for a manager (one man)
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Erik claims Jose is the best manager in the world.

If that was true he would have had more options for big jobs than just United. The Jose of 2010 could have had any job in the world bar United and Barca,.

posted on 23/10/18

No, because most clubs already have managers.

posted on 23/10/18

comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 19 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 15 minutes ago
Have you been here this whole time waiting for the right time to make a snide comment?
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Nope. True though innit. I kind of enjoy the sentiment that being a weasel behind someones back is some how better than saying it to their face though.
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No, it's not that that. If I met Lampard face to face, I'd politely and respectfully tell him he used to be one of my favourite players but I really didn't like it when he joined Man City and I thought he should have refused to join another English club regardless of whatever the situation was.

I wouldn't boo him or chant abuse because that's disrespectful and I don't believe that should happen to former players/managers. You can not like someone but still not disrespect them.
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Unless its behind their back on an internet forum of course.

Just for banters sake could you explain the difference between Frank joining City and Jose joing Utd please?
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Apples and oranges. There are no similarities between the two situations other than both are initially at Chelsea.
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Frank was initially at West Ham so.....
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No I meant in both situations you're talking about someone going from Chelsea to somewhere else.

I'll say this as well, I have no problem with Mata going from Chelsea to United, no problem with Matic making that same move, no problem with Sturridge going to Liverpool etc. etc.

For me Lampard and Cech were the two ones that never should have happened and I've never looked at them the same way since. They were Chelsea legends, they had options, they could have done the right thing like Steven Gerrard did and not played for another team in the same country, especially a direct rival, but they chose to make the moves they did and I don't think that was right.
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Why should Cech go to a club he doesn't want to go to just to please a few ungrateful and fickle ****s. The main reason Gerrard decided to move is because of death threats from the Scousers. Many Gerrard shirts were burned the night before he changed his mind

Besides you're only crying about it because he's a good player. If we signed bakayoko instead you'd be laughing your a*see off. If Czech aged as badly for you as bakayoko did you'd be calling for him to be sold.

posted on 23/10/18

comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by SilvaLining (U21951)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 46 seconds ago
Lampard and Cech had more options than Jose?

Just when you think he's hit the stupidy ceiling.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes of course they did... I don't think there is any doubt or controversy about that statement.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If Jose had less big club options than a 36 year old midfielder well past his prime then that says a lot about how far he has fallen.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
THink this is a bit of stupid point. Big teams have more space for players (a squad) than they would for a manager (one man)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Erik claims Jose is the best manager in the world.

If that was true he would have had more options for big jobs than just United. The Jose of 2010 could have had any job in the world bar United and Barca,.
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He wanted the United job since the days he was at Chelsea and Fergie was in charge

posted on 23/10/18

*decided not to move

posted on 23/10/18

comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 46 seconds ago
Lampard and Cech had more options than Jose?

Just when you think he's hit the stupidy ceiling.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes of course they did... I don't think there is any doubt or controversy about that statement.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If Jose had less big club options than a 36 year old midfielder well past his prime then that says a lot about how far he has fallen.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No it doesn't, the options a manager has are completely different to those a player has. For one, a club can only have one manager, so that immediately rules out the vast majority of clubs for any manager looking for work.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If Jose is the best manager in the world like you claim he is, then there's no way om this planet United would have been his only big club option.

The Jose of the 00's could have had any job he wanted bar United and Barca.

posted on 23/10/18

comment by 9ctics (U21076)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 19 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 15 minutes ago
Have you been here this whole time waiting for the right time to make a snide comment?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Nope. True though innit. I kind of enjoy the sentiment that being a weasel behind someones back is some how better than saying it to their face though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, it's not that that. If I met Lampard face to face, I'd politely and respectfully tell him he used to be one of my favourite players but I really didn't like it when he joined Man City and I thought he should have refused to join another English club regardless of whatever the situation was.

I wouldn't boo him or chant abuse because that's disrespectful and I don't believe that should happen to former players/managers. You can not like someone but still not disrespect them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Unless its behind their back on an internet forum of course.

Just for banters sake could you explain the difference between Frank joining City and Jose joing Utd please?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Apples and oranges. There are no similarities between the two situations other than both are initially at Chelsea.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Frank was initially at West Ham so.....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No I meant in both situations you're talking about someone going from Chelsea to somewhere else.

I'll say this as well, I have no problem with Mata going from Chelsea to United, no problem with Matic making that same move, no problem with Sturridge going to Liverpool etc. etc.

For me Lampard and Cech were the two ones that never should have happened and I've never looked at them the same way since. They were Chelsea legends, they had options, they could have done the right thing like Steven Gerrard did and not played for another team in the same country, especially a direct rival, but they chose to make the moves they did and I don't think that was right.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why should Cech go to a club he doesn't want to go to just to please a few ungrateful and fickle ****s. The main reason Gerrard decided to move is because of death threats from the Scousers. Many Gerrard shirts were burned the night before he changed his mind

Besides you're only crying about it because he's a good player. If we signed bakayoko instead you'd be laughing your a*see off. If Czech aged as badly for you as bakayoko did you'd be calling for him to be sold.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Michael Essien flat out said he wouldn't play for another English club. It's just an unwritten rule in football about showing respect to a club that's important to you and their fans by not joining a rival. It's just a matter of respect.

posted on 23/10/18

comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by 9ctics (U21076)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 19 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 15 minutes ago
Have you been here this whole time waiting for the right time to make a snide comment?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Nope. True though innit. I kind of enjoy the sentiment that being a weasel behind someones back is some how better than saying it to their face though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, it's not that that. If I met Lampard face to face, I'd politely and respectfully tell him he used to be one of my favourite players but I really didn't like it when he joined Man City and I thought he should have refused to join another English club regardless of whatever the situation was.

I wouldn't boo him or chant abuse because that's disrespectful and I don't believe that should happen to former players/managers. You can not like someone but still not disrespect them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Unless its behind their back on an internet forum of course.

Just for banters sake could you explain the difference between Frank joining City and Jose joing Utd please?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Apples and oranges. There are no similarities between the two situations other than both are initially at Chelsea.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Frank was initially at West Ham so.....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No I meant in both situations you're talking about someone going from Chelsea to somewhere else.

I'll say this as well, I have no problem with Mata going from Chelsea to United, no problem with Matic making that same move, no problem with Sturridge going to Liverpool etc. etc.

For me Lampard and Cech were the two ones that never should have happened and I've never looked at them the same way since. They were Chelsea legends, they had options, they could have done the right thing like Steven Gerrard did and not played for another team in the same country, especially a direct rival, but they chose to make the moves they did and I don't think that was right.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why should Cech go to a club he doesn't want to go to just to please a few ungrateful and fickle ****s. The main reason Gerrard decided to move is because of death threats from the Scousers. Many Gerrard shirts were burned the night before he changed his mind

Besides you're only crying about it because he's a good player. If we signed bakayoko instead you'd be laughing your a*see off. If Czech aged as badly for you as bakayoko did you'd be calling for him to be sold.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Michael Essien flat out said he wouldn't play for another English club. It's just an unwritten rule in football about showing respect to a club that's important to you and their fans by not joining a rival. It's just a matter of respect.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yet you have spent years defending a man who broke that very rule

posted on 23/10/18

comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 46 seconds ago
Lampard and Cech had more options than Jose?

Just when you think he's hit the stupidy ceiling.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes of course they did... I don't think there is any doubt or controversy about that statement.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If Jose had less big club options than a 36 year old midfielder well past his prime then that says a lot about how far he has fallen.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No it doesn't, the options a manager has are completely different to those a player has. For one, a club can only have one manager, so that immediately rules out the vast majority of clubs for any manager looking for work.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If Jose is the best manager in the world like you claim he is, then there's no way om this planet United would have been his only big club option.

The Jose of the 00's could have had any job he wanted bar United and Barca.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well first off, Mourinho would only be aiming at the top maybe 10 clubs in Europe. Lampard isn't aiming at only the top 10 clubs in Europe after leaving Chelsea. But even then in Mourinho's case, those 10 clubs may not have a vacancy for the manager's role, so his options are almost completely limited. Man Utd were more or less his only option aside from taking time out potentially.

posted on 23/10/18

comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by 9ctics (U21076)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 19 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 15 minutes ago
Have you been here this whole time waiting for the right time to make a snide comment?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Nope. True though innit. I kind of enjoy the sentiment that being a weasel behind someones back is some how better than saying it to their face though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, it's not that that. If I met Lampard face to face, I'd politely and respectfully tell him he used to be one of my favourite players but I really didn't like it when he joined Man City and I thought he should have refused to join another English club regardless of whatever the situation was.

I wouldn't boo him or chant abuse because that's disrespectful and I don't believe that should happen to former players/managers. You can not like someone but still not disrespect them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Unless its behind their back on an internet forum of course.

Just for banters sake could you explain the difference between Frank joining City and Jose joing Utd please?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Apples and oranges. There are no similarities between the two situations other than both are initially at Chelsea.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Frank was initially at West Ham so.....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No I meant in both situations you're talking about someone going from Chelsea to somewhere else.

I'll say this as well, I have no problem with Mata going from Chelsea to United, no problem with Matic making that same move, no problem with Sturridge going to Liverpool etc. etc.

For me Lampard and Cech were the two ones that never should have happened and I've never looked at them the same way since. They were Chelsea legends, they had options, they could have done the right thing like Steven Gerrard did and not played for another team in the same country, especially a direct rival, but they chose to make the moves they did and I don't think that was right.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why should Cech go to a club he doesn't want to go to just to please a few ungrateful and fickle ****s. The main reason Gerrard decided to move is because of death threats from the Scousers. Many Gerrard shirts were burned the night before he changed his mind

Besides you're only crying about it because he's a good player. If we signed bakayoko instead you'd be laughing your a*see off. If Czech aged as badly for you as bakayoko did you'd be calling for him to be sold.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Michael Essien flat out said he wouldn't play for another English club. It's just an unwritten rule in football about showing respect to a club that's important to you and their fans by not joining a rival. It's just a matter of respect.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yet you have spent years defending a man who broke that very rule
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A rule for players.

posted on 23/10/18

The main reason Gerrard decided to move is because of death threats from the Scousers.
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Yer thats not true. It was his dad that changed his mind.

posted on 23/10/18

His dad made him death threats?

posted on 23/10/18

No his dad convinced him to stay.

Gerrard said he wanted to win medals and his dad said who would want to see them around here.

posted on 23/10/18

Just looked it up. That is the most pathetic story I've ever read. Gerrard's father should be ashamed of himself, holding his son back because of his own selfish reasons. Can you even call yourself a father when you do that? A real father would take whatever comes his way if it meant his son could do what he really wanted.

posted on 23/10/18

I doubt he gives two fvcks what you think and Gerrard has said he's glad.

posted on 23/10/18

It's completely selfish, I can't believe you agree with that. Would you emotionally blackmail your son into doing what you wanted if he didn't want to?

posted on 23/10/18

He didnt. He ensured that his son will go down as pne of the top three Liverpool players of all time and no amount of money can buy that. Gerrard has said hes glad so not sure why youre bothered.

posted on 23/10/18

Because Gerrard WANTED to join Chelsea and who knows what he could have achieved had he done so. No father would stand in the way of his son wanted. Well, no good father would at least.

posted on 23/10/18

Gerrard said hes glad so whats your point?

posted on 23/10/18

Of course he's gonna say he's glad now, but he'll never know what would have happened had he left and I'm sure he does think about what he might have achieved.

The fact is he wanted to go and his dad emotionally blackmailed him to stay. Disgraceful.

posted on 23/10/18

Im not sure what rag youve been reading but he didnt emotionally blackmail him. He said hed regret leaving and Gerrard agrees.

posted on 23/10/18

He did emotionally blackmail him. He said it would affect the way other people viewed the family if Gerrard left, which only doesn't matter for shiiiit. You're only justification is that Gerrard is apparently cool with it now, but no one can say how much happier or sadder he may have been if he had left Liverpool. What is objectively wrong is that he was emotionally blackmailed into not doing what he wanted to do.

posted on 23/10/18

Wahl

You call Lampard a cuuunntt for joining City after Chelsea told him he was no longer needed, but are advocating Gerrard should’ve left Liverpool and his Dad was being selfish for wanting him to stay. You also think Gerrard should’ve left.

Wouldn’t that make Gerrard a cuuuunnntttt in your eyes?

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