Has he? Seems he has just suckered in gullible Liverpool fans mostly with a few more logical folks pointing out the daftness of his comments.
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Has he? Seems he has just suckered in gullible Liverpool fans mostly with a few more logical folks pointing out the daftness of his comments.
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Not really. It's fairly obvious he's just trying to put pressure on us.
An article about what the clown Warnock says? Come on guys...……..e is a feckin idiot, nobody cares about his opinion
Most referees do their best to make this true
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And this is why Warnock and Cardiff are going to get relegated.
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posted 14 minutes ago
So he virtually and not actually impossible.
He’s not far wrong, we don’t lose very often.
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So 2 losses in 13 is virtually impossible these days?
Does that mean Arsenal are virtually impossible to beat?
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Why go off the games this season, we’ve been good since October 2017.
You lot have been lucky!
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Sorry, but this is absolute garbage.
You can't 'luckily' win 11 games in a row. We've pretty much deserved every single victory we've had this season. If opposition players can't/don't take their chances, that's not luck; that's poor finishing.
And even if it was luck, so what? Teams that are better than us haven't been able to go on a winning run like this (so far).
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You didn’t deserve to beat West Ham.
You were also very lucky to not be down to 10 men on Monday night and a few more goals down.
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comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 14 minutes ago
So he virtually and not actually impossible.
He’s not far wrong, we don’t lose very often.
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So 2 losses in 13 is virtually impossible these days?
Does that mean Arsenal are virtually impossible to beat?
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Why go off the games this season, we’ve been good since October 2017.
You lot have been lucky!
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Sorry, but this is absolute garbage.
You can't 'luckily' win 11 games in a row. We've pretty much deserved every single victory we've had this season. If opposition players can't/don't take their chances, that's not luck; that's poor finishing.
And even if it was luck, so what? Teams that are better than us haven't been able to go on a winning run like this (so far).
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You didn’t deserve to beat West Ham.
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If Everton's finishing/decision making in the final third wasn't so woeful then that could have been a completely different story too.
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posted 2 minutes ago
You were also very lucky to not be down to 10 men on Monday night and a few more goals down.
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Not at all? Leicester were lucky it was only 3-1 quite easily could have been 5-1!
Arsenal’s defence is poor, seen that on a number of occasions, but their attack will win them a lot of matches.
So far they have been lucky in a number of games where opposition teams have missed chances, usually that luck does run out over the course of a season which is why they can’t challenge for the league. Think they will make top four though.
Remind me a lot of us in 13/14 season under Rodgers.
Van Dijk should have been bought for £6m to Crystal Palace.
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posted 20 minutes ago
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 14 minutes ago
So he virtually and not actually impossible.
He’s not far wrong, we don’t lose very often.
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So 2 losses in 13 is virtually impossible these days?
Does that mean Arsenal are virtually impossible to beat?
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Why go off the games this season, we’ve been good since October 2017.
You lot have been lucky!
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Sorry, but this is absolute garbage.
You can't 'luckily' win 11 games in a row. We've pretty much deserved every single victory we've had this season. If opposition players can't/don't take their chances, that's not luck; that's poor finishing.
And even if it was luck, so what? Teams that are better than us haven't been able to go on a winning run like this (so far).
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You didn’t deserve to beat West Ham.
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Like I said, it’s not our fault other teams didn’t take their chances.
I’m not disputing that we do give possession away carelessly at times, but if the opposition don’t make us pay, then we will punish them for their profligacy.
I stick by my statement. You can’t put it purely down to luck that we’ve won 11 games in a row.
Anyone that thinks that it is the primary reason is stupid, frankly.
As for the Everton game, we should have had two penalties which the referee did not give and conveniently it got ignored by most pundits in the post match analysis.
The Leicester game: if you’re saying we should have been down to 10 men cos of the Holding handball, I don’t entirely agree. I can explain why if you would like but tbh it’s not important. Even some Leicester fans thought it wasn’t a penalty on different fan forums. Leicester went 1-0 up and stopped playing. Puel moaned about the penalty decision, but that isn’t the reason why they lost.
At the end of the day, incidents go for and against every team. Liverpool have also had their fair share of decisions going in their favour this season, it’s not exclusively Arsenal that have had refereeing decisions go for us. A football match is 90 minutes. And the bottom line is results aren’t defined purely by match officials.
And the bottom line is results aren’t defined purely by match officials.
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Their incompetence, bias or whatever you call it influences the entire dynamic of a game, especially when it is a close game. Just one incorrect but favorable decision can change the entire flow of a game.
For the last two years we were the team with most penalties given against us. The referees were good and competent back than and we had the worst defence but now when results go our way the referees are biased and incompetent and we are lucky. Surely you can have it both ways.
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 39 minutes ago
And the bottom line is results aren’t defined purely by match officials.
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Their incompetence, bias or whatever you call it influences the entire dynamic of a game, especially when it is a close game. Just one incorrect but favorable decision can change the entire flow of a game.
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But this has been the case since the history of football. It’s not as if these situations don’t happen to every single team.
It just so happens that people will remember the injustices against their own team or against a domestic rival more than they do others.
Some of it is completely subjective as well. The Holding penalty incident wasn’t even a clear cut decision to Leicester fans themselves (if you read FoxesTalk), yet others are saying it was a second yellow and a penalty for Leicester. It’s sometimes a matter of perspective too.
Equally, Lacazette was fouled in the penalty area in 2 successive home games against Everton and Watford. Yet because he tried to stay on his feet on both occasions, the referee didn’t give it. Arsenal didn’t play particularly great in either of these matches. But had those incidents went in our favour, considering both penalty incidents happened fairly early on in both matches, the flow of those games would have been different. Thankfully it didn’t affect either result in the end.
The referee can influence a result with a bad decision sure. But over the course of 90 minutes, when you know some decisions will go for or against you no matter what, as a professional footballer, you cannot afford to let a refereeing decision determine the outcome of a game. If it does, then the team isn’t performing as well as they need to be.
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posted 18 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 (U18355)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 14 minutes ago
So he virtually and not actually impossible.
He’s not far wrong, we don’t lose very often.
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So 2 losses in 13 is virtually impossible these days?
Does that mean Arsenal are virtually impossible to beat?
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Why go off the games this season, we’ve been good since October 2017.
You lot have been lucky!
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Sorry, but this is absolute garbage.
You can't 'luckily' win 11 games in a row. We've pretty much deserved every single victory we've had this season. If opposition players can't/don't take their chances, that's not luck; that's poor finishing.
And even if it was luck, so what? Teams that are better than us haven't been able to go on a winning run like this (so far).
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Should not one of your players been red card against Leicester and a penalty given for what was a clear hand ball when the score was 0-0. So yes luck has played some part in your run.
Utterly dominated that game.
"Should not one of your players been red card against Leicester and a penalty given for what was a clear hand ball when the score was 0-0"
I've already addressed this. Read the thread properly.
"So yes luck has played some part in your run."
I'm not disputing that we've had elements of fortune. I'm saying that anyone who thinks Arsenal winning 11 games in a row is solely down to luck, which is what KLS appeared to be saying, is garbage.
Did say it was all down to luck, I said you’d been lucky and you have been.
You’ve had a very favourable run of fixtures after the first 2 and whilst you’ve won them you’ve not been great.
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posted 20 minutes ago
comment by 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 (U18355)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 14 minutes ago
So he virtually and not actually impossible.
He’s not far wrong, we don’t lose very often.
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So 2 losses in 13 is virtually impossible these days?
Does that mean Arsenal are virtually impossible to beat?
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Why go off the games this season, we’ve been good since October 2017.
You lot have been lucky!
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Sorry, but this is absolute garbage.
You can't 'luckily' win 11 games in a row. We've pretty much deserved every single victory we've had this season. If opposition players can't/don't take their chances, that's not luck; that's poor finishing.
And even if it was luck, so what? Teams that are better than us haven't been able to go on a winning run like this (so far).
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Should not one of your players been red card against Leicester and a penalty given for what was a clear hand ball when the score was 0-0. So yes luck has played some part in your run.
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Sorry what red card? Handball isn't instantly a yellow card. Also the pen didn't make a difference as Leicester went 1-0 up anyway. As soon as they went 1-0 up they dropped up and it was all us. We should have won 5-1 in the end.
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posted on 27/10/18
Has he? Seems he has just suckered in gullible Liverpool fans mostly with a few more logical folks pointing out the daftness of his comments.
posted on 27/10/18
comment by Cinciwolf---so glad I wasn't careful what I wished for!! (U11551)
posted 7 minutes ago
Has he? Seems he has just suckered in gullible Liverpool fans mostly with a few more logical folks pointing out the daftness of his comments.
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Not really. It's fairly obvious he's just trying to put pressure on us.
posted on 27/10/18
Warnock is clueless.
posted on 27/10/18
An article about what the clown Warnock says? Come on guys...……..e is a feckin idiot, nobody cares about his opinion
posted on 27/10/18
Most referees do their best to make this true
posted on 27/10/18
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posted on 27/10/18
And this is why Warnock and Cardiff are going to get relegated.
posted on 27/10/18
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 13 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 (U18355)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 14 minutes ago
So he virtually and not actually impossible.
He’s not far wrong, we don’t lose very often.
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So 2 losses in 13 is virtually impossible these days?
Does that mean Arsenal are virtually impossible to beat?
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Why go off the games this season, we’ve been good since October 2017.
You lot have been lucky!
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Sorry, but this is absolute garbage.
You can't 'luckily' win 11 games in a row. We've pretty much deserved every single victory we've had this season. If opposition players can't/don't take their chances, that's not luck; that's poor finishing.
And even if it was luck, so what? Teams that are better than us haven't been able to go on a winning run like this (so far).
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You didn’t deserve to beat West Ham.
posted on 27/10/18
You were also very lucky to not be down to 10 men on Monday night and a few more goals down.
posted on 27/10/18
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 13 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 (U18355)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 14 minutes ago
So he virtually and not actually impossible.
He’s not far wrong, we don’t lose very often.
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So 2 losses in 13 is virtually impossible these days?
Does that mean Arsenal are virtually impossible to beat?
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Why go off the games this season, we’ve been good since October 2017.
You lot have been lucky!
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Sorry, but this is absolute garbage.
You can't 'luckily' win 11 games in a row. We've pretty much deserved every single victory we've had this season. If opposition players can't/don't take their chances, that's not luck; that's poor finishing.
And even if it was luck, so what? Teams that are better than us haven't been able to go on a winning run like this (so far).
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You didn’t deserve to beat West Ham.
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If Everton's finishing/decision making in the final third wasn't so woeful then that could have been a completely different story too.
posted on 27/10/18
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 2 minutes ago
You were also very lucky to not be down to 10 men on Monday night and a few more goals down.
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Not at all? Leicester were lucky it was only 3-1 quite easily could have been 5-1!
posted on 27/10/18
Arsenal’s defence is poor, seen that on a number of occasions, but their attack will win them a lot of matches.
So far they have been lucky in a number of games where opposition teams have missed chances, usually that luck does run out over the course of a season which is why they can’t challenge for the league. Think they will make top four though.
Remind me a lot of us in 13/14 season under Rodgers.
posted on 27/10/18
Van Dijk should have been bought for £6m to Crystal Palace.
posted on 27/10/18
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 13 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 (U18355)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 14 minutes ago
So he virtually and not actually impossible.
He’s not far wrong, we don’t lose very often.
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So 2 losses in 13 is virtually impossible these days?
Does that mean Arsenal are virtually impossible to beat?
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Why go off the games this season, we’ve been good since October 2017.
You lot have been lucky!
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Sorry, but this is absolute garbage.
You can't 'luckily' win 11 games in a row. We've pretty much deserved every single victory we've had this season. If opposition players can't/don't take their chances, that's not luck; that's poor finishing.
And even if it was luck, so what? Teams that are better than us haven't been able to go on a winning run like this (so far).
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You didn’t deserve to beat West Ham.
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Like I said, it’s not our fault other teams didn’t take their chances.
I’m not disputing that we do give possession away carelessly at times, but if the opposition don’t make us pay, then we will punish them for their profligacy.
I stick by my statement. You can’t put it purely down to luck that we’ve won 11 games in a row.
Anyone that thinks that it is the primary reason is stupid, frankly.
posted on 27/10/18
As for the Everton game, we should have had two penalties which the referee did not give and conveniently it got ignored by most pundits in the post match analysis.
The Leicester game: if you’re saying we should have been down to 10 men cos of the Holding handball, I don’t entirely agree. I can explain why if you would like but tbh it’s not important. Even some Leicester fans thought it wasn’t a penalty on different fan forums. Leicester went 1-0 up and stopped playing. Puel moaned about the penalty decision, but that isn’t the reason why they lost.
At the end of the day, incidents go for and against every team. Liverpool have also had their fair share of decisions going in their favour this season, it’s not exclusively Arsenal that have had refereeing decisions go for us. A football match is 90 minutes. And the bottom line is results aren’t defined purely by match officials.
posted on 27/10/18
And the bottom line is results aren’t defined purely by match officials.
==========================================
Their incompetence, bias or whatever you call it influences the entire dynamic of a game, especially when it is a close game. Just one incorrect but favorable decision can change the entire flow of a game.
posted on 27/10/18
For the last two years we were the team with most penalties given against us. The referees were good and competent back than and we had the worst defence but now when results go our way the referees are biased and incompetent and we are lucky. Surely you can have it both ways.
posted on 27/10/18
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 39 minutes ago
And the bottom line is results aren’t defined purely by match officials.
==========================================
Their incompetence, bias or whatever you call it influences the entire dynamic of a game, especially when it is a close game. Just one incorrect but favorable decision can change the entire flow of a game.
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But this has been the case since the history of football. It’s not as if these situations don’t happen to every single team.
It just so happens that people will remember the injustices against their own team or against a domestic rival more than they do others.
Some of it is completely subjective as well. The Holding penalty incident wasn’t even a clear cut decision to Leicester fans themselves (if you read FoxesTalk), yet others are saying it was a second yellow and a penalty for Leicester. It’s sometimes a matter of perspective too.
Equally, Lacazette was fouled in the penalty area in 2 successive home games against Everton and Watford. Yet because he tried to stay on his feet on both occasions, the referee didn’t give it. Arsenal didn’t play particularly great in either of these matches. But had those incidents went in our favour, considering both penalty incidents happened fairly early on in both matches, the flow of those games would have been different. Thankfully it didn’t affect either result in the end.
The referee can influence a result with a bad decision sure. But over the course of 90 minutes, when you know some decisions will go for or against you no matter what, as a professional footballer, you cannot afford to let a refereeing decision determine the outcome of a game. If it does, then the team isn’t performing as well as they need to be.
posted on 27/10/18
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posted 18 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 (U18355)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 14 minutes ago
So he virtually and not actually impossible.
He’s not far wrong, we don’t lose very often.
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So 2 losses in 13 is virtually impossible these days?
Does that mean Arsenal are virtually impossible to beat?
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Why go off the games this season, we’ve been good since October 2017.
You lot have been lucky!
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Sorry, but this is absolute garbage.
You can't 'luckily' win 11 games in a row. We've pretty much deserved every single victory we've had this season. If opposition players can't/don't take their chances, that's not luck; that's poor finishing.
And even if it was luck, so what? Teams that are better than us haven't been able to go on a winning run like this (so far).
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Should not one of your players been red card against Leicester and a penalty given for what was a clear hand ball when the score was 0-0. So yes luck has played some part in your run.
posted on 27/10/18
Warnock is a sage
posted on 27/10/18
Mystic Warnock
posted on 27/10/18
Utterly dominated that game.
posted on 27/10/18
"Should not one of your players been red card against Leicester and a penalty given for what was a clear hand ball when the score was 0-0"
I've already addressed this. Read the thread properly.
"So yes luck has played some part in your run."
I'm not disputing that we've had elements of fortune. I'm saying that anyone who thinks Arsenal winning 11 games in a row is solely down to luck, which is what KLS appeared to be saying, is garbage.
posted on 27/10/18
Did say it was all down to luck, I said you’d been lucky and you have been.
You’ve had a very favourable run of fixtures after the first 2 and whilst you’ve won them you’ve not been great.
posted on 27/10/18
comment by sandy YNWA (U20567)
posted 4 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 18 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 (U18355)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 14 minutes ago
So he virtually and not actually impossible.
He’s not far wrong, we don’t lose very often.
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So 2 losses in 13 is virtually impossible these days?
Does that mean Arsenal are virtually impossible to beat?
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Why go off the games this season, we’ve been good since October 2017.
You lot have been lucky!
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Sorry, but this is absolute garbage.
You can't 'luckily' win 11 games in a row. We've pretty much deserved every single victory we've had this season. If opposition players can't/don't take their chances, that's not luck; that's poor finishing.
And even if it was luck, so what? Teams that are better than us haven't been able to go on a winning run like this (so far).
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Should not one of your players been red card against Leicester and a penalty given for what was a clear hand ball when the score was 0-0. So yes luck has played some part in your run.
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Sorry what red card? Handball isn't instantly a yellow card. Also the pen didn't make a difference as Leicester went 1-0 up anyway. As soon as they went 1-0 up they dropped up and it was all us. We should have won 5-1 in the end.
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