But with commercial (and broadcasting) revenue now being king, is it worth the palaver?
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Yes, because broadcasting revenue is not sustainable in my opinion.

comment by mariory (U8059)
posted 10 minutes ago
But with commercial (and broadcasting) revenue now being king, is it worth the palaver?
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Yes, because broadcasting revenue is not sustainable in my opinion.
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Really? How about when Amazon etc get into football properly?

yeah never been too fussed with relocating tbh. Juve even downgraded their capacity.

If they could slightly amend the stadium to get it up to 50,000 (i know everythings been looked at) then that would be perfect.

comment by mariory (U8059)
posted 15 minutes ago
But with commercial (and broadcasting) revenue now being king, is it worth the palaver?
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Yes, because broadcasting revenue is not sustainable in my opinion.
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That's as sustainable as fans going surely? If interest in the game dies down, then both fans going and tv interest will go down.

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
yeah never been too fussed with relocating tbh. Juve even downgraded their capacity.

If they could slightly amend the stadium to get it up to 50,000 (i know everythings been looked at) then that would be perfect.
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Yes. Shed Upper to mirror Matthew Harding Stand would be perfect, but I guess the problem is egress.

For us to justify a £1billion stadium surely you would want £75m a year extra stadium revenue

There's no actual legal blocks left right?

Roman just hesitating on the the trigger rn

No idea if your numbers are right but given our shambolic situation right now I would rather have redeveloped a couple of stands over a longer period (like Liverpool have done), stayed at the Lane and kept the capacity around 50K. This Spurs project is simply a reflection of Levy's massive ego and priority of money over football

comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 2 minutes ago
No idea if your numbers are right but given our shambolic situation right now I would rather have redeveloped a couple of stands over a longer period (like Liverpool have done), stayed at the Lane and kept the capacity around 50K. This Spurs project is simply a reflection of Levy's massive ego and priority of money over football
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Diamond

I just find it a bit ridiculous in London, so many clubs, so little space, it was better when each team had their own grounds and identity.

Now you look at west ham, arsenal in similar empty grounds.

I've been going for 25 years now. My old man has been going for 50 plus. He says he won't renew if we go wembley for 2/3 years. And i'm not sure I would either.

comment by CFC: FFP Champions (U20729)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
yeah never been too fussed with relocating tbh. Juve even downgraded their capacity.

If they could slightly amend the stadium to get it up to 50,000 (i know everythings been looked at) then that would be perfect.
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Yes. Shed Upper to mirror Matthew Harding Stand would be perfect, but I guess the problem is egress.

For us to justify a £1billion stadium surely you would want £75m a year extra stadium revenue
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Don't know if we have ability to do the shed though with the Fulham Road behind it, maybe if we knock down the old shed wall and push it back, surely we'd only need 20-30 metres?

I think the West stand was the massive F up, the tiers are all messed up, the middle ones hardly come out at all.

I can't believe those numbers are in any way accurate, because you'd have to imagine the feasibility and profitability has been thoroughly analysed. Even the over-cost must have been factored in as a possibility.

There've been some miscalculations and the whole issue is attracting all sorts of criticism right now, but I imagine it'll be fine in the long run. It's normal for change to be somewhat traumatic and daunting.

Maybe I just want to think so because our own club has just approved an initial budget of €575M just for the redevelopment of our current ground.

Where are you getting £1bn cost from?

50k would be a really good capacity at SB I think. As Nick said there must be some way of making that happen. Hated those new stadium designs anyway.

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 minute ago
50k would be a really good capacity at SB I think. As Nick said there must be some way of making that happen. Hated those new stadium designs anyway.
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Wouldn't mind them chucking the away fans up in the east. And then make the shed a wrap round with atleast the East stand.

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 18 minutes ago
I can't believe those numbers are in any way accurate, because you'd have to imagine the feasibility and profitability has been thoroughly analysed. Even the over-cost must have been factored in as a possibility.

There've been some miscalculations and the whole issue is attracting all sorts of criticism right now, but I imagine it'll be fine in the long run. It's normal for change to be somewhat traumatic and daunting.

Maybe I just want to think so because our own club has just approved an initial budget of €575M just for the redevelopment of our current ground.
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The £28m extra revenue figure was from a brief google search. Another one fro Spurs says up to £60m extra revenue, but they haven't sold out hospitality areas or sold naming rights (yet).

So let's say £50m extra revenue, will that cover half interest and some capital payments???

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 8 minutes ago
Where are you getting £1bn cost from?
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What is the 'official' latest cost?

comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 52 minutes ago
No idea if your numbers are right but given our shambolic situation right now I would rather have redeveloped a couple of stands over a longer period (like Liverpool have done), stayed at the Lane and kept the capacity around 50K. This Spurs project is simply a reflection of Levy's massive ego and priority of money over football
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The SB site is too constrained to undertake piecemeal extensions. It has to be a comprehensive redesign of the stadium or nothing really

comment by CFC: FFP Champions (U20729)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 8 minutes ago
Where are you getting £1bn cost from?
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What is the 'official' latest cost?
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Latest figures reported last week is that we have a £637m development facility (although this covers more than just the new stadium) and are carrying net debt of £366m.

comment by CFC: FFP Champions (U20729)
posted 19 minutes ago

The £28m extra revenue figure was from a brief google search. Another one fro Spurs says up to £60m extra revenue, but they haven't sold out hospitality areas or sold naming rights (yet).

So let's say £50m extra revenue, will that cover half interest and some capital payments???
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Actually, I hadn't stopped to consider what would be happening to the old WHL. Surely that's worth a bomb.

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 52 minutes ago
No idea if your numbers are right but given our shambolic situation right now I would rather have redeveloped a couple of stands over a longer period (like Liverpool have done), stayed at the Lane and kept the capacity around 50K. This Spurs project is simply a reflection of Levy's massive ego and priority of money over football
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The SB site is too constrained to undertake piecemeal extensions. It has to be a comprehensive redesign of the stadium or nothing really
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Annoyingly this is true.

I'm wondering if we could have sacrified the Bates motel and made Shed End 9000, say.

Would the council have gone for that in the 90s??

"Tottenham Hotspur believe they can complete the club’s new stadium for under £1billion, despite the rising cost of delays and gloomy predictions of construction experts.

Sources within the construction industry claim Spurs face a bill in the region of £1.2bn to complete their new stadium because of delays and the fact chairman Daniel Levy did not negotiate a fixed-price deal with contractor Mace.

Had Levy managed to sign a fixed-price contract for the delivery of Tottenham’s stadium, which had been valued at £850 million, then it would have been Mace and not the club who would have paid for any delays and the additional associated costs."

comment by bluespensioner (U6049)
posted 1 minute ago
"Tottenham Hotspur believe they can complete the club’s new stadium for under £1billion, despite the rising cost of delays and gloomy predictions of construction experts.

Sources within the construction industry claim Spurs face a bill in the region of £1.2bn to complete their new stadium because of delays and the fact chairman Daniel Levy did not negotiate a fixed-price deal with contractor Mace.

Had Levy managed to sign a fixed-price contract for the delivery of Tottenham’s stadium, which had been valued at £850 million, then it would have been Mace and not the club who would have paid for any delays and the additional associated costs."

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You need to add to that the cost of renting Wembley for the unexpected delay as well.

Delighted we didn't leave Anfield. Our owners really did get it spot on, not even a reduced capacity for a single game and we had a brand new stand with another 10,000 seats.

Plus it cost a 10th of the Spurs stadium price, and we are only 5,000 short of their new capacity.

I can't believe Spurs' new stadium is costing £1.8b

comment by Gareth. (U1145)
posted 25 minutes ago
I can't believe Spurs' new stadium is costing £1.8b
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£ 3 billion? madness isn't it

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 minute ago
50k would be a really good capacity at SB I think. As Nick said there must be some way of making that happen. Hated those new stadium designs anyway.
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Wouldn't mind them chucking the away fans up in the east. And then make the shed a wrap round with atleast the East stand.
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I think from next season away fans have to be at the bottom of stadiums.