comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 39 seconds ago
test
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I'll sort your account out at 2pm
I don’t gamble or feel the need to. Ideally I’d shut it all down but alternatively I would like to see the stakes and winnings all scaled down - you can’t easily go broke and neither are you going to get rich quick. Or just bet for fun, no money or assets involved. Of course this would take the fun out of gambling for most people and put these bookies and casinos out of business but it would stop some people from really wrecking their lives through addiction. Having said that, I’m not a fan of a nanny state.
The other problem is that so many clubs generate money from these companies so I can’t see gambling disappearing or declining any time soon. Football is too dependent on it and money in general as I mention quite a lot.
Perhaps every betting shop/ site needs to have real examples of what can happen if you go to far into debt a bit like the warnings that are on cigarette packets (even though I know they’re not that effective)?
I guess banning all daytime advertising is a start. I might get to hear all of YNWA before a Liverpool home game again like we used to! Also Ray’s ads have got worse every year; I actually used to like them at first, they were slightly entertaining.
It has to be a good thing as gambling is becoming g normalised, but not sure why size difference it will make.
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 38 minutes ago
What's haraam?
What's ummah?
What's a FIFA loot box?
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Haraam = forbidden
Ummah = community of Muslims
Fifa loot box = consumable virtual item
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 58 seconds ago
What's haraam?
What's ummah?
What's a FIFA loot box?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think this site might answer the first two: https://islamqa.info/en/answers/4013/wisdom-behind-the-prohibition-on-gambling
Now, I've no real problem with Islam, and why not, but for this poster to just copy and paste from some other site indicates to me he either hasn't actually read the site he posted from or hasn't understood it sufficiently to put it sincerely in his own words. It kind of defeats the whole point of "learning", for me.
2/10 In your own words next time please, Tablighi .
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Sorry bro, next time I'll do it in my own words but to summarise Gambling is forbidden and is no good
F1 used to be all about cigarette advertising, it was everywhere. F1 copes, I think it'd be easy to flush away the betting ads - pretty sure I don't remember them being there much at all 10 odd years ago.
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 39 seconds ago
test
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I'll sort your account out at 2pm
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Ok thanks. I picked the wrong thread to test it on anyway, as its a multiboard thread anyway.
comment by Colin Boylan (U1734)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 12 minutes ago
Gambling makes a person rely on accidents, luck and wishful thinking for his earnings, instead of hard work, the sweat of his brow and paying respect to the ways prescribed by Allaah.
Gambling destroys families and causes the loss of wealth through haraam means. It makes rich families poor and humiliates proud souls.
Gambling results in enmity and hatred among the players, because they are consuming one another’s wealth unlawfully and getting wealth unlawfully.
Gambling turns people away from the remembrance of Allaah and from prayer, and pushes the players to have the worst of attitudes and habits.
Gambling is a sinful hobby that wastes time and effort, and makes people get used to laziness and idleness. It stops the ummah from working and producing.
Gambling pushes people to commit crimes because the one who is penniless wants to get hold of money in any way he can, even if he has to steal it or take it by force, or through accepting bribes and cheating.
Gambling causes stress, illness and nervous breakdowns. It breeds hatred and in most cases leads to crime, suicide, insanity and chronic illness.
Gambling pushes the gambler to bad behaviour such as drinking alcohol and taking drugs. The atmosphere in which gambling takes place is dimly lit and filled with cigarette smoke; people talk in hushed voices and whispers, and sneak in and out as if they are up to no good. They come in hesitantly, filled with suspicion, and gather around the green table, breathing uneasily and with their hearts pounding. They are supposed to be friends playing a game, but in reality they are enemies, each of them lying in wait for the other and trying to make gains at the expense of the other and his children. The owner of the place tries to numb the feelings of all participants by offering dreamy music, fallen women, all kinds of drinks and cigarettes. The green table is surrounded with cheating and deception. The waiters and girls may tell one player about another player’s cards, helping one player to beat another by means of nods and whispers. Sometimes they achieve a kind of balance to make sure the game carries on and people stay for longer. No doubt everyone loses in the end, they lose the money they spend on drinks and cigarettes, the money they give to the waiters, the money they spend on drinks for the girls, and all kinds of other losses. Even the one who wins all or most of the games loses all or most of his winnings, and the loser loses everything. And at the end of the night, they all sneak away, showing the signs of depression and humiliation, and the loser warns the winner to look out the next day.
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Like gambling on there being a god?
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No gambling required, just rationale.
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 5 munutes ago
Fifa loot box = consumable virtual item
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Like religion?
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 58 seconds ago
What's haraam?
What's ummah?
What's a FIFA loot box?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think this site might answer the first two: https://islamqa.info/en/answers/4013/wisdom-behind-the-prohibition-on-gambling
Now, I've no real problem with Islam, and why not, but for this poster to just copy and paste from some other site indicates to me he either hasn't actually read the site he posted from or hasn't understood it sufficiently to put it sincerely in his own words. It kind of defeats the whole point of "learning", for me.
2/10 In your own words next time please, Tablighi .
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Sorry bro, next time I'll do it in my own words but to summarise Gambling is forbidden and is no good
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Judging by the comments here, I think a lot of people would agree about the "no good" bit, maybe not the "forbidden" part.
I like a gamble, I find it fun but I do it responsibly. Same as drinking.
Wouldn’t like it to be forbidden.
in my opinion, gambling is for fools, as is organised religion.
I don't know what the heck a 'loot box' is but Admin should make Ja606 loot boxes imo and a way to make your username bar a different colour instead of blue or something, we all enter a competition for $1 and the winner gets a red username bar.
<insertScripturalcomment>
(Can’t be bothered to debate The Heavenly Father’s existence on JA today)
...but yeah gambling isn’t too sensible.
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 40 minutes ago
I like a gamble, I find it fun but I do it responsibly. Same as drinking.
Wouldn’t like it to be forbidden.
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It's forbidden in my state.
Stupid puritans
I would rather earn my red user name bar. What are the criteria? How many other users do I have to kill?
These companies are targeting the young and impressionable people ,more than the adult.Once they get them hooked at a young age,they have a grip which can be hard to be broken,and causes no end of problems for the future, but not for them of course.
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 40 minutes ago
I like a gamble, I find it fun but I do it responsibly. Same as drinking.
Wouldn’t like it to be forbidden.
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It's forbidden in my state.
Stupid puritans
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If television has taught me anything, and it has taught me much, people only ban gambling so they can make more money from it. I recommend you ask around to locate an "underground" gambling astablishment - look for a door with a large man in a suit standing in front of it.
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 40 minutes ago
I like a gamble, I find it fun but I do it responsibly. Same as drinking.
Wouldn’t like it to be forbidden.
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It's forbidden in my state.
Stupid puritans
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Draft Kings and Fanduel get around it. One of those approached ja606 a few years back. We would have got a cut of money lost.
comment by harlequinHebdo (U16981)
posted 8 minutes ago
These companies are targeting the young and impressionable people ,more than the adult.Once they get them hooked at a young age,they have a grip which can be hard to be broken,and causes no end of problems for the future, but not for them of course.
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Very true. I know a lot more people that gamble now than I did say 15 years ago. I think smart phones play a large part in that.
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 18 minutes ago
I would rather earn my red user name bar. What are the criteria? How many other users do I have to kill?
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Admin could you clarify the rules on this one please?
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 40 minutes ago
I like a gamble, I find it fun but I do it responsibly. Same as drinking.
Wouldn’t like it to be forbidden.
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It's forbidden in my state.
Stupid puritans
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Draft Kings and Fanduel get around it. One of those approached ja606 a few years back. We would have got a cut of money lost.
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Aye I think there was some sort of court case here a while back regarding dratkings. Didn't pay much attention as I sink all my stakes into my totally legit latvian based bookie
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 40 minutes ago
I like a gamble, I find it fun but I do it responsibly. Same as drinking.
Wouldn’t like it to be forbidden.
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It's forbidden in my state.
Stupid puritans
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Draft Kings and Fanduel get around it. One of those approached ja606 a few years back. We would have got a cut of money lost.
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Would we? Bloody hell, Admin, I don't remember being consulted on this.
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 2 hours, 17 minutes ago
in my opinion, gambling is for fools, as is organised religion.
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Edgy Atheist confirmed
Need to nationalise the gambling market
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posted on 6/12/18
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 39 seconds ago
test
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I'll sort your account out at 2pm
posted on 6/12/18
I don’t gamble or feel the need to. Ideally I’d shut it all down but alternatively I would like to see the stakes and winnings all scaled down - you can’t easily go broke and neither are you going to get rich quick. Or just bet for fun, no money or assets involved. Of course this would take the fun out of gambling for most people and put these bookies and casinos out of business but it would stop some people from really wrecking their lives through addiction. Having said that, I’m not a fan of a nanny state.
The other problem is that so many clubs generate money from these companies so I can’t see gambling disappearing or declining any time soon. Football is too dependent on it and money in general as I mention quite a lot.
Perhaps every betting shop/ site needs to have real examples of what can happen if you go to far into debt a bit like the warnings that are on cigarette packets (even though I know they’re not that effective)?
I guess banning all daytime advertising is a start. I might get to hear all of YNWA before a Liverpool home game again like we used to! Also Ray’s ads have got worse every year; I actually used to like them at first, they were slightly entertaining.
posted on 6/12/18
It has to be a good thing as gambling is becoming g normalised, but not sure why size difference it will make.
posted on 6/12/18
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 38 minutes ago
What's haraam?
What's ummah?
What's a FIFA loot box?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Haraam = forbidden
Ummah = community of Muslims
Fifa loot box = consumable virtual item
posted on 6/12/18
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 58 seconds ago
What's haraam?
What's ummah?
What's a FIFA loot box?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think this site might answer the first two: https://islamqa.info/en/answers/4013/wisdom-behind-the-prohibition-on-gambling
Now, I've no real problem with Islam, and why not, but for this poster to just copy and paste from some other site indicates to me he either hasn't actually read the site he posted from or hasn't understood it sufficiently to put it sincerely in his own words. It kind of defeats the whole point of "learning", for me.
2/10 In your own words next time please, Tablighi .
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry bro, next time I'll do it in my own words but to summarise Gambling is forbidden and is no good
posted on 6/12/18
F1 used to be all about cigarette advertising, it was everywhere. F1 copes, I think it'd be easy to flush away the betting ads - pretty sure I don't remember them being there much at all 10 odd years ago.
posted on 6/12/18
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 39 seconds ago
test
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I'll sort your account out at 2pm
--------------
Ok thanks. I picked the wrong thread to test it on anyway, as its a multiboard thread anyway.
posted on 6/12/18
comment by Colin Boylan (U1734)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 12 minutes ago
Gambling makes a person rely on accidents, luck and wishful thinking for his earnings, instead of hard work, the sweat of his brow and paying respect to the ways prescribed by Allaah.
Gambling destroys families and causes the loss of wealth through haraam means. It makes rich families poor and humiliates proud souls.
Gambling results in enmity and hatred among the players, because they are consuming one another’s wealth unlawfully and getting wealth unlawfully.
Gambling turns people away from the remembrance of Allaah and from prayer, and pushes the players to have the worst of attitudes and habits.
Gambling is a sinful hobby that wastes time and effort, and makes people get used to laziness and idleness. It stops the ummah from working and producing.
Gambling pushes people to commit crimes because the one who is penniless wants to get hold of money in any way he can, even if he has to steal it or take it by force, or through accepting bribes and cheating.
Gambling causes stress, illness and nervous breakdowns. It breeds hatred and in most cases leads to crime, suicide, insanity and chronic illness.
Gambling pushes the gambler to bad behaviour such as drinking alcohol and taking drugs. The atmosphere in which gambling takes place is dimly lit and filled with cigarette smoke; people talk in hushed voices and whispers, and sneak in and out as if they are up to no good. They come in hesitantly, filled with suspicion, and gather around the green table, breathing uneasily and with their hearts pounding. They are supposed to be friends playing a game, but in reality they are enemies, each of them lying in wait for the other and trying to make gains at the expense of the other and his children. The owner of the place tries to numb the feelings of all participants by offering dreamy music, fallen women, all kinds of drinks and cigarettes. The green table is surrounded with cheating and deception. The waiters and girls may tell one player about another player’s cards, helping one player to beat another by means of nods and whispers. Sometimes they achieve a kind of balance to make sure the game carries on and people stay for longer. No doubt everyone loses in the end, they lose the money they spend on drinks and cigarettes, the money they give to the waiters, the money they spend on drinks for the girls, and all kinds of other losses. Even the one who wins all or most of the games loses all or most of his winnings, and the loser loses everything. And at the end of the night, they all sneak away, showing the signs of depression and humiliation, and the loser warns the winner to look out the next day.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Like gambling on there being a god?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No gambling required, just rationale.
posted on 6/12/18
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 5 munutes ago
Fifa loot box = consumable virtual item
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Like religion?
posted on 6/12/18
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 58 seconds ago
What's haraam?
What's ummah?
What's a FIFA loot box?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think this site might answer the first two: https://islamqa.info/en/answers/4013/wisdom-behind-the-prohibition-on-gambling
Now, I've no real problem with Islam, and why not, but for this poster to just copy and paste from some other site indicates to me he either hasn't actually read the site he posted from or hasn't understood it sufficiently to put it sincerely in his own words. It kind of defeats the whole point of "learning", for me.
2/10 In your own words next time please, Tablighi .
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry bro, next time I'll do it in my own words but to summarise Gambling is forbidden and is no good
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Judging by the comments here, I think a lot of people would agree about the "no good" bit, maybe not the "forbidden" part.
posted on 6/12/18
I like a gamble, I find it fun but I do it responsibly. Same as drinking.
Wouldn’t like it to be forbidden.
posted on 6/12/18
in my opinion, gambling is for fools, as is organised religion.
posted on 6/12/18
I don't know what the heck a 'loot box' is but Admin should make Ja606 loot boxes imo and a way to make your username bar a different colour instead of blue or something, we all enter a competition for $1 and the winner gets a red username bar.
posted on 6/12/18
<insertScripturalcomment>
(Can’t be bothered to debate The Heavenly Father’s existence on JA today)
...but yeah gambling isn’t too sensible.
posted on 6/12/18
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 40 minutes ago
I like a gamble, I find it fun but I do it responsibly. Same as drinking.
Wouldn’t like it to be forbidden.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's forbidden in my state.
Stupid puritans
posted on 6/12/18
I would rather earn my red user name bar. What are the criteria? How many other users do I have to kill?
posted on 6/12/18
These companies are targeting the young and impressionable people ,more than the adult.Once they get them hooked at a young age,they have a grip which can be hard to be broken,and causes no end of problems for the future, but not for them of course.
posted on 6/12/18
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 40 minutes ago
I like a gamble, I find it fun but I do it responsibly. Same as drinking.
Wouldn’t like it to be forbidden.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's forbidden in my state.
Stupid puritans
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If television has taught me anything, and it has taught me much, people only ban gambling so they can make more money from it. I recommend you ask around to locate an "underground" gambling astablishment - look for a door with a large man in a suit standing in front of it.
posted on 6/12/18
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 40 minutes ago
I like a gamble, I find it fun but I do it responsibly. Same as drinking.
Wouldn’t like it to be forbidden.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's forbidden in my state.
Stupid puritans
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Draft Kings and Fanduel get around it. One of those approached ja606 a few years back. We would have got a cut of money lost.
posted on 6/12/18
comment by harlequinHebdo (U16981)
posted 8 minutes ago
These companies are targeting the young and impressionable people ,more than the adult.Once they get them hooked at a young age,they have a grip which can be hard to be broken,and causes no end of problems for the future, but not for them of course.
-------------
Very true. I know a lot more people that gamble now than I did say 15 years ago. I think smart phones play a large part in that.
posted on 6/12/18
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 18 minutes ago
I would rather earn my red user name bar. What are the criteria? How many other users do I have to kill?
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Admin could you clarify the rules on this one please?
posted on 6/12/18
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 40 minutes ago
I like a gamble, I find it fun but I do it responsibly. Same as drinking.
Wouldn’t like it to be forbidden.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's forbidden in my state.
Stupid puritans
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Draft Kings and Fanduel get around it. One of those approached ja606 a few years back. We would have got a cut of money lost.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Aye I think there was some sort of court case here a while back regarding dratkings. Didn't pay much attention as I sink all my stakes into my totally legit latvian based bookie
posted on 6/12/18
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 40 minutes ago
I like a gamble, I find it fun but I do it responsibly. Same as drinking.
Wouldn’t like it to be forbidden.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's forbidden in my state.
Stupid puritans
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Draft Kings and Fanduel get around it. One of those approached ja606 a few years back. We would have got a cut of money lost.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Would we? Bloody hell, Admin, I don't remember being consulted on this.
posted on 6/12/18
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 2 hours, 17 minutes ago
in my opinion, gambling is for fools, as is organised religion.
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Edgy Atheist confirmed
posted on 6/12/18
Need to nationalise the gambling market
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