Seen a debate on this recently and the two financial fellas said that it’s hard to say whether his £89m fee has been recouped.
Firstly, his wages are astronomical at around £15m a year.
Also, with United looking worryingly short of reaching CL in next seasons competition, they’ll lose out on potentially £50m+ which has further ramifications for sponsors which can offer less unless CL qualification is met.
Club might well have made £89m profit in 6 months, highly unlikely that it was in direct relation to Pogba being signed. Not as if he was the only player signed that summery so something like the share price can’t be directly and solely linked to him either.
Absolutely no idea if this has any truth to it but the fact I wouldn't at all be surprised if it were true tells you everything wrong with this club right now.
so he's just a walking advert for Manu then
I would say that this guy is acting as (one of) Jose's mouthpiece atm.
"he claims club recouped £89m fee in six months"
But Robb told us this years ago. This isn't news.
comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 31 minutes ago
"he claims club recouped £89m fee in six months"
But Robb told us this years ago. This isn't news.
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The thing is, this guy doesn't have a degree in urban appeal. A market much underestimated by those that don't fully appreciate it.
Before anybody else comments, it's important to point out that...
Everybody will choose to ignore this... "as he claims club recouped £89m fee in six months"
Everybody will highlight this... "The 69-year-old says the Frenchman is now 'worth virtually nothing on the field"
This is how much hate Pogba has, people are ready to accept any old bull schit article about him. Especially Liverpool fans who would fellate Ed Woodward if it meant they could have him in their midfield.
As for Jose Mourinho not wanting Pogba, let's read what he said just before the player was signed.
"Mourinho has praised the United board and executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward for achieving "75 per cent" of their work so far in the transfer market having landed Henrikh Mkhitaryan, Eric Bailly and Zlatan Ibrahimovic.
“We know the profile of the player we want, and we have three faces that fit that profile,” said Mourinho during the club's pre-season trip to China.
“I’m really confident Mr Woodward and the owners can get the profile of the player I think the squad needs."
“I don’t confirm and I don’t deny,” added Mourinho when quizzed about Pogba.
“I cannot tell. First of all because I don’t think its correct to speak about players from other clubs. He’s a Juventus player not a Manchester United player.
“The only thing I can say is that my board, my directors, did a fantastic job to do 75 per cent of the job I asked them to do.
“I asked them for four profiles of players, I gave them a few options and they did for me 75 per cent of the job and we just have 25 per cent to do before August 31.
“So we are in a great position to do what I consider will be a great market for us. So we are calm.”
Does this sound like a man who doesn't want to sign Pogba? Does anybody actually think his ego is small enough to allow somebody else to dictate his signings?
Agreed KFC. I am quite sure that the players we have brought in were all Jose signings. I don't buy this idea that Ed/the board sign players that they think are right for the club.
Likewise, the idea that Pogba is now worth virtually nothing, either on the field or transfer market. Under another manager he could play much better. That's not to say that Pogba is faultless, as he has a poor attitude when it comes to hard work. But if you put him further up the field, with the right midfielders behind him, limit his defensive responsibility, and give him pace and movement ahead of him, he would perform much better.
Pogba isn't faultless but like you said, to label him worthless on the market just as he helps France win a WC and becomes one of their leaders is laughable.
If we had energy and bite in midfield and movement up front I think we'd see a very different Pogba. It's so very difficult to judge any United 'flair' player under this manager as none have really thrived.
I'm not giving up on him yet but a knuckle-down performance tonight would go some way to making me doubt him less.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 42 minutes ago
If we had energy and bite in midfield and movement up front I think we'd see a very different Pogba. It's so very difficult to judge any United 'flair' player under this manager as none have really thrived.
I'm not giving up on him yet but a knuckle-down performance tonight would go some way to making me doubt him less.
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It was obvious within a few weeks that he didn't want to defend. That hasn't changed since he has been there, but Jose still has accepted that and adapted. You might argue that Pogba should really adapt to what Jose wants and he did do that in the WC, where he looked more disciplined. But for whatever reason, he has not been able/willing to do that for United. So instead of going through this charade of dropping him, whilst talking up his quality, how about playing him in a position and system that gets the most our of him? I just don't understand what Jose has been trying to achieve in terms of recruitment and style of play. There just doesn't seem to be any plan or system and our approach is detrimental to almost every player in the squad. Its weird.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 42 minutes ago
If we had energy and bite in midfield and movement up front I think we'd see a very different Pogba. It's so very difficult to judge any United 'flair' player under this manager as none have really thrived.
I'm not giving up on him yet but a knuckle-down performance tonight would go some way to making me doubt him less.
-------------
It was obvious within a few weeks that he didn't want to defend. That hasn't changed since he has been there, but Jose still has accepted that and adapted. You might argue that Pogba should really adapt to what Jose wants and he did do that in the WC, where he looked more disciplined. But for whatever reason, he has not been able/willing to do that for United. So instead of going through this charade of dropping him, whilst talking up his quality, how about playing him in a position and system that gets the most our of him? I just don't understand what Jose has been trying to achieve in terms of recruitment and style of play. There just doesn't seem to be any plan or system and our approach is detrimental to almost every player in the squad. Its weird.
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I don't think we have a real style or pattern of play. It seems every game we get different combinations and, when some work, we don't see them again for a while for some reason!
Pogba could do better of course but he would look so much better if given a proper platform to do so. The ball into him is too slow at times as Matic, Fellaini etc tend to stick to 'safe' passes. For the life of me I can't see why we sold Blind as I think he'd have been able to do a good job from CB for us stepping forward and getting the ball forward as well.
I don't think we're an awful team or squad by any means (we could do with more first XI quality of course) but there's so many little things wrong at the moment that, if rectified, would make a massive difference in performance IMO.
Pogba would struggle under Klopp unless he upped his work rate. He’s not capable of doing what Klopp demands. He could flourish but would take him months to get up to speed in his current form.
What convenient revelations from Jose's friend.
comment by Kung Fu Cantona đđź đľđ¸ (U18082)
posted 17 hours, 14 minutes ago
Before anybody else comments, it's important to point out that...
This is how much hate Pogba has, people are ready to accept any old bull schit article about him. Especially Liverpool fans who would fellate Ed Woodward if it meant they could have him in their midfield.
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We really wouldn't.
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posted on 12/12/18
Seen a debate on this recently and the two financial fellas said that it’s hard to say whether his £89m fee has been recouped.
Firstly, his wages are astronomical at around £15m a year.
Also, with United looking worryingly short of reaching CL in next seasons competition, they’ll lose out on potentially £50m+ which has further ramifications for sponsors which can offer less unless CL qualification is met.
posted on 12/12/18
Jose's mate claims....
posted on 12/12/18
Club might well have made £89m profit in 6 months, highly unlikely that it was in direct relation to Pogba being signed. Not as if he was the only player signed that summery so something like the share price can’t be directly and solely linked to him either.
posted on 12/12/18
Absolutely no idea if this has any truth to it but the fact I wouldn't at all be surprised if it were true tells you everything wrong with this club right now.
posted on 12/12/18
so he's just a walking advert for Manu then
posted on 12/12/18
I would say that this guy is acting as (one of) Jose's mouthpiece atm.
posted on 12/12/18
"he claims club recouped £89m fee in six months"
But Robb told us this years ago. This isn't news.
posted on 12/12/18
comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 31 minutes ago
"he claims club recouped £89m fee in six months"
But Robb told us this years ago. This isn't news.
--------------------------
The thing is, this guy doesn't have a degree in urban appeal. A market much underestimated by those that don't fully appreciate it.
posted on 12/12/18
Before anybody else comments, it's important to point out that...
Everybody will choose to ignore this... "as he claims club recouped £89m fee in six months"
Everybody will highlight this... "The 69-year-old says the Frenchman is now 'worth virtually nothing on the field"
This is how much hate Pogba has, people are ready to accept any old bull schit article about him. Especially Liverpool fans who would fellate Ed Woodward if it meant they could have him in their midfield.
As for Jose Mourinho not wanting Pogba, let's read what he said just before the player was signed.
"Mourinho has praised the United board and executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward for achieving "75 per cent" of their work so far in the transfer market having landed Henrikh Mkhitaryan, Eric Bailly and Zlatan Ibrahimovic.
“We know the profile of the player we want, and we have three faces that fit that profile,” said Mourinho during the club's pre-season trip to China.
“I’m really confident Mr Woodward and the owners can get the profile of the player I think the squad needs."
“I don’t confirm and I don’t deny,” added Mourinho when quizzed about Pogba.
“I cannot tell. First of all because I don’t think its correct to speak about players from other clubs. He’s a Juventus player not a Manchester United player.
“The only thing I can say is that my board, my directors, did a fantastic job to do 75 per cent of the job I asked them to do.
“I asked them for four profiles of players, I gave them a few options and they did for me 75 per cent of the job and we just have 25 per cent to do before August 31.
“So we are in a great position to do what I consider will be a great market for us. So we are calm.”
Does this sound like a man who doesn't want to sign Pogba? Does anybody actually think his ego is small enough to allow somebody else to dictate his signings?
posted on 12/12/18
Agreed KFC. I am quite sure that the players we have brought in were all Jose signings. I don't buy this idea that Ed/the board sign players that they think are right for the club.
Likewise, the idea that Pogba is now worth virtually nothing, either on the field or transfer market. Under another manager he could play much better. That's not to say that Pogba is faultless, as he has a poor attitude when it comes to hard work. But if you put him further up the field, with the right midfielders behind him, limit his defensive responsibility, and give him pace and movement ahead of him, he would perform much better.
posted on 12/12/18
Daily Fail... sharticle
posted on 12/12/18
Pogba isn't faultless but like you said, to label him worthless on the market just as he helps France win a WC and becomes one of their leaders is laughable.
posted on 12/12/18
If we had energy and bite in midfield and movement up front I think we'd see a very different Pogba. It's so very difficult to judge any United 'flair' player under this manager as none have really thrived.
I'm not giving up on him yet but a knuckle-down performance tonight would go some way to making me doubt him less.
posted on 12/12/18
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 42 minutes ago
If we had energy and bite in midfield and movement up front I think we'd see a very different Pogba. It's so very difficult to judge any United 'flair' player under this manager as none have really thrived.
I'm not giving up on him yet but a knuckle-down performance tonight would go some way to making me doubt him less.
-------------
It was obvious within a few weeks that he didn't want to defend. That hasn't changed since he has been there, but Jose still has accepted that and adapted. You might argue that Pogba should really adapt to what Jose wants and he did do that in the WC, where he looked more disciplined. But for whatever reason, he has not been able/willing to do that for United. So instead of going through this charade of dropping him, whilst talking up his quality, how about playing him in a position and system that gets the most our of him? I just don't understand what Jose has been trying to achieve in terms of recruitment and style of play. There just doesn't seem to be any plan or system and our approach is detrimental to almost every player in the squad. Its weird.
posted on 12/12/18
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 42 minutes ago
If we had energy and bite in midfield and movement up front I think we'd see a very different Pogba. It's so very difficult to judge any United 'flair' player under this manager as none have really thrived.
I'm not giving up on him yet but a knuckle-down performance tonight would go some way to making me doubt him less.
-------------
It was obvious within a few weeks that he didn't want to defend. That hasn't changed since he has been there, but Jose still has accepted that and adapted. You might argue that Pogba should really adapt to what Jose wants and he did do that in the WC, where he looked more disciplined. But for whatever reason, he has not been able/willing to do that for United. So instead of going through this charade of dropping him, whilst talking up his quality, how about playing him in a position and system that gets the most our of him? I just don't understand what Jose has been trying to achieve in terms of recruitment and style of play. There just doesn't seem to be any plan or system and our approach is detrimental to almost every player in the squad. Its weird.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't think we have a real style or pattern of play. It seems every game we get different combinations and, when some work, we don't see them again for a while for some reason!
Pogba could do better of course but he would look so much better if given a proper platform to do so. The ball into him is too slow at times as Matic, Fellaini etc tend to stick to 'safe' passes. For the life of me I can't see why we sold Blind as I think he'd have been able to do a good job from CB for us stepping forward and getting the ball forward as well.
I don't think we're an awful team or squad by any means (we could do with more first XI quality of course) but there's so many little things wrong at the moment that, if rectified, would make a massive difference in performance IMO.
posted on 12/12/18
Pogba would struggle under Klopp unless he upped his work rate. He’s not capable of doing what Klopp demands. He could flourish but would take him months to get up to speed in his current form.
posted on 12/12/18
What convenient revelations from Jose's friend.
posted on 13/12/18
comment by Kung Fu Cantona đđź đľđ¸ (U18082)
posted 17 hours, 14 minutes ago
Before anybody else comments, it's important to point out that...
This is how much hate Pogba has, people are ready to accept any old bull schit article about him. Especially Liverpool fans who would fellate Ed Woodward if it meant they could have him in their midfield.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
We really wouldn't.
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