To suggest Bocanegra is better than Bougherra is nonsense, Bougherra was a key player and for all his rampaging runs very few times was he at fault for conceding a goal. Bocanegra has so far made two mistakes and cost us two goals one at the weekend and one in Europe.
defensive coach/come on when we're winning/morale etc
Considering his excellent contribution over the past few seasons, I don't want to witness a sad ending to Davie Weir's career at Rangers. On the other hand we have unearthed two/three very capable, and cheaply sourced, replacements in Goian, Bocanegra, and Bartley. We cannot afford to be too sentimental and risk weakening the team to accommodate Weir. I hope Ally and his coaching staff can find a solution which benefits the team, yet respects Weir's achievements. Some sort of defensive coaching role would seem a possibility (considering Ally's attacker's knowledge, likewise Durrant's in midfield) but would Weir still want to remain up here on that basis when all his family are still down south?
Bocanegra and Goian should be first choice.
Our 2 best signings this season.
Weir should be 3rd choice.
4th choice even for Weir, forgot we even had Bartley.
I'd like to see Bartley given a game at right back and centre mid.
davie weir should be kept to mentor young perry and should only be used in emergencies, great servant but i think as the OP has stated, Goian and Bocanegra are better not to mention we have Bartley and the aforemention Perry
When fit, Davie will be used for cup games and Celtic.
Bocanegra has looked good so far. He was very good on Sunday. I don't think we are looking like we're missing Boogie.
I'd like to see Bartley given a game at right back and centre mid
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ffs! are you walter smith
You may be right Zico. A 41 yr old footballer with a dodgy hamstring is akin to a 90 yr old with a broken hip.
For once though I am not too worried. We have Goian (who was immense for me on Sunday, never put a foot wrong) and Bocanegra (at fault for the equaliser but other than that solid enough) with Perry as back up. Should we need to we also have Papac, Broadfoot, Wallace and when back Bartley who can play centre back if required.
That's before we even think about McCulloch again. At the back I am vey happy with our squad and think that we have plenty of cover for the season even if Weir calls it a day.
In his time at Rangers Weir has been everything you would expect from a model Rangers player but time waits for no man. Has to go into coaching or management, football needs more like him.
Hillbilly maybe we should get the big man installed in wan o the diddies,following in the footsteps of butcher,mccall,mcinnes
Hillbilly
he will be off to Everton into a coaching role with Moyes at the end of the season
P.S. Anybody know when his book is out, if not already released? cheers
comment by Rangers-FC-No1 (U5516) posted 37 minutes ago
To suggest Bocanegra is better than Bougherra is nonsense,
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Read what I wrote again my friend. I never said Bocanegra is a better player. I said I think the team is better off without Bougherra.
Do we really want a centre back that thinks hes a winger? Having Bougherra in the team always meant there had to be a centre midfield player stationed just in front of the defence just in case Bougherra went AWOL.
I am happy with a centre back who is focussed on defending first and foremost. Bocanegra is and I was never convinced Bougherra was.
Yes he played Hooper onside on sunday. Not sure I would really lay sole blame at his feet for the goal though. You have to remember hes still relatively new and the understanding of the back 4 as a unit will improve. This will help cut out issues around offside.
Its about opinions. Bougherra was entertaining but he also caused panic. I just think we looked more solid at tha back on sunday than we have for a long time.
Davies book is out, it's called extra time and imo was a great read especially the unorthodox way he became a professional playing in the states and his honesty
Good idea DC7, make the establishment bigger eh.
wier had fitness test b4 sundays game so he must be 2nd choice!!
he is still club captian and when fit will start
Play the fringe men in the CIS cup....keep the first XI for the league.
he is still club captian and when fit will start
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no the best players at ally's disposal will start.
ally is not lennon, he wouldn't play that heedless chicken broon jsut because he's club captain
comment by _bhoy67 (U4904) posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
he is still club captian and when fit will start
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I dont believe thats true tbh.
I think he will rotate Weir in to give other guys rest but for the big games I think it will be Goian and Boca or Bartley.
McCoist clearly isnt playing favourites. McCulloch was fit for sunday but didnt start. If Ally was sticking by the old brigade McCulloch would have started.
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posted on 20/9/11
To suggest Bocanegra is better than Bougherra is nonsense, Bougherra was a key player and for all his rampaging runs very few times was he at fault for conceding a goal. Bocanegra has so far made two mistakes and cost us two goals one at the weekend and one in Europe.
posted on 20/9/11
defensive coach/come on when we're winning/morale etc
posted on 20/9/11
Weir's fcuked.
posted on 20/9/11
Considering his excellent contribution over the past few seasons, I don't want to witness a sad ending to Davie Weir's career at Rangers. On the other hand we have unearthed two/three very capable, and cheaply sourced, replacements in Goian, Bocanegra, and Bartley. We cannot afford to be too sentimental and risk weakening the team to accommodate Weir. I hope Ally and his coaching staff can find a solution which benefits the team, yet respects Weir's achievements. Some sort of defensive coaching role would seem a possibility (considering Ally's attacker's knowledge, likewise Durrant's in midfield) but would Weir still want to remain up here on that basis when all his family are still down south?
posted on 20/9/11
Bocanegra and Goian should be first choice.
Our 2 best signings this season.
Weir should be 3rd choice.
posted on 20/9/11
4th choice even for Weir, forgot we even had Bartley.
I'd like to see Bartley given a game at right back and centre mid.
posted on 20/9/11
davie weir should be kept to mentor young perry and should only be used in emergencies, great servant but i think as the OP has stated, Goian and Bocanegra are better not to mention we have Bartley and the aforemention Perry
posted on 20/9/11
When fit, Davie will be used for cup games and Celtic.
Bocanegra has looked good so far. He was very good on Sunday. I don't think we are looking like we're missing Boogie.
posted on 20/9/11
I'd like to see Bartley given a game at right back and centre mid
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ffs! are you walter smith
posted on 20/9/11
You may be right Zico. A 41 yr old footballer with a dodgy hamstring is akin to a 90 yr old with a broken hip.
For once though I am not too worried. We have Goian (who was immense for me on Sunday, never put a foot wrong) and Bocanegra (at fault for the equaliser but other than that solid enough) with Perry as back up. Should we need to we also have Papac, Broadfoot, Wallace and when back Bartley who can play centre back if required.
That's before we even think about McCulloch again. At the back I am vey happy with our squad and think that we have plenty of cover for the season even if Weir calls it a day.
posted on 20/9/11
In his time at Rangers Weir has been everything you would expect from a model Rangers player but time waits for no man. Has to go into coaching or management, football needs more like him.
posted on 20/9/11
Hillbilly maybe we should get the big man installed in wan o the diddies,following in the footsteps of butcher,mccall,mcinnes
posted on 20/9/11
Hillbilly
he will be off to Everton into a coaching role with Moyes at the end of the season
P.S. Anybody know when his book is out, if not already released? cheers
posted on 20/9/11
comment by Rangers-FC-No1 (U5516) posted 37 minutes ago
To suggest Bocanegra is better than Bougherra is nonsense,
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Read what I wrote again my friend. I never said Bocanegra is a better player. I said I think the team is better off without Bougherra.
Do we really want a centre back that thinks hes a winger? Having Bougherra in the team always meant there had to be a centre midfield player stationed just in front of the defence just in case Bougherra went AWOL.
I am happy with a centre back who is focussed on defending first and foremost. Bocanegra is and I was never convinced Bougherra was.
Yes he played Hooper onside on sunday. Not sure I would really lay sole blame at his feet for the goal though. You have to remember hes still relatively new and the understanding of the back 4 as a unit will improve. This will help cut out issues around offside.
Its about opinions. Bougherra was entertaining but he also caused panic. I just think we looked more solid at tha back on sunday than we have for a long time.
posted on 20/9/11
Davies book is out, it's called extra time and imo was a great read especially the unorthodox way he became a professional playing in the states and his honesty
posted on 20/9/11
Good idea DC7, make the establishment bigger eh.
posted on 20/9/11
global
posted on 20/9/11
wier had fitness test b4 sundays game so he must be 2nd choice!!
he is still club captian and when fit will start
posted on 20/9/11
Play the fringe men in the CIS cup....keep the first XI for the league.
posted on 20/9/11
he is still club captian and when fit will start
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no the best players at ally's disposal will start.
ally is not lennon, he wouldn't play that heedless chicken broon jsut because he's club captain
posted on 20/9/11
comment by _bhoy67 (U4904) posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
he is still club captian and when fit will start
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I dont believe thats true tbh.
I think he will rotate Weir in to give other guys rest but for the big games I think it will be Goian and Boca or Bartley.
McCoist clearly isnt playing favourites. McCulloch was fit for sunday but didnt start. If Ally was sticking by the old brigade McCulloch would have started.
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