If every player that was shiyte under Mourinho needed to be sacked as well, we'd not have a team.
There has to be a clean slate to be able to move on.
You can move on without a clean slate.
Yeah great way to move on past this horrible time under Jose, bring all the negativity with us just so no one feels like they've 'got away with anything'.
Why should negativity towards the players go away when the manager goes. If a player did something wrong, that's his responsibility. Not Mourinho's.
Jose is gone, move on. United are trying to. You should do the same.
You can move on while being honest rather than deluding yourselves.
No one is deluded.
We all know Pogba is a bit of a caant and I'm not sure you'll be able to find posts from anyone on here that thinks he's completely innocent.
Other than booing him when he plays from now on I'm not sure how you actually expect people to move on, whilst still 'being honest'.
Moving on means hoping he stops being a caant, stops playing badly and begins to become a great player for us with a new manager.
I actually agree with bits of that wahl. The players get away with murder at times, and are generally spoilt petulant man children.
But to move on, a clean slate is needed. If we see no improvement from the underperfoymers, Sanchez, pogba etc..bin them.
I don't want to see United fans forgiving and forgetting or deluding themselves into thinking the players are completely innocent when the vast majority of them are guilty for not backing Mourinho 100%. You can move on whilst accepting that the players were wrong as well. Nothing changes in terms of the attitude towards the players when the manager leaves. If a player wasn't trying his hardest, just because the manager leaves, doesn't change that that player didn't try his hardest.
"Moving on means hoping he stops being a caant, stops playing badly and begins to become a great player for us with a new manager."
Absolutely nothing wrong with this, but never forget he was a caant and hold him responsible for that. if that means booing him, then boo him. I hate when football fans are fickle and forgive the player for everything just because he starts playing well again.
I actually agree with bits of that wahl. The players get away with murder at times, and are generally spoilt petulant man children.
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Broz, there is no coincidence that this is happening more and more frequently in football that managers are 'losing the dressing room'. The more times the players succeed in getting a manager fired, the more times they're gonna try it and the more common it will become. Eventually a club is going to need to take a stand against this and it should have been Chelsea when they had Mourinho in my opinion. Mourinho had done enough for Chelsea that they could have kept him and shut down the players who tried to get rid of him, but they bottled it and just contributed to this problem.
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows. (U21750)
posted 3 minutes ago
I actually agree with bits of that wahl. The players get away with murder at times, and are generally spoilt petulant man children.
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Broz, there is no coincidence that this is happening more and more frequently in football that managers are 'losing the dressing room'. The more times the players succeed in getting a manager fired, the more times they're gonna try it and the more common it will become. Eventually a club is going to need to take a stand against this and it should have been Chelsea when they had Mourinho in my opinion. Mourinho had done enough for Chelsea that they could have kept him and shut down the players who tried to get rid of him, but they bottled it and just contributed to this problem.
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Yeah player power needs stamped down. Not much you can do really unless introduce performance related pay to hit them where it hurts..
FFS l, who did you lose a bet with to change your name?
Suits you by the way, all honest for once.
The same thing happened with Moyes... the players didn't even try
It's because the players ultimately have all the aces in their hands.
They're on the pitch every week, getting abuse from the oppo fans and players, the fans buy the PLAYERS shirts and follow the PLAYERS on social media etc.
Having star players, like Pogba, are not easy to come across these days either, hence why players like him will always win the battle.
Managers are easily replaceable, top players are not imo.
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows
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Ahahahaha
Hilarious.
comment by ‘rd’ - if Kan’ye’ can, so can baz ta’rd’ (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows. (U21750)
posted 3 minutes ago
I actually agree with bits of that wahl. The players get away with murder at times, and are generally spoilt petulant man children.
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Broz, there is no coincidence that this is happening more and more frequently in football that managers are 'losing the dressing room'. The more times the players succeed in getting a manager fired, the more times they're gonna try it and the more common it will become. Eventually a club is going to need to take a stand against this and it should have been Chelsea when they had Mourinho in my opinion. Mourinho had done enough for Chelsea that they could have kept him and shut down the players who tried to get rid of him, but they bottled it and just contributed to this problem.
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Yeah player power needs stamped down. Not much you can do really unless introduce performance related pay to hit them where it hurts..
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Not firing managers every time they 'lose the dressing room' would be a start. And I'm not just talking about Mourinho, I mean every manager should have that.
comment by sᴉɥƃuǝlפ (U19365)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
FFSl, who did you lose a bet with to change your name?
Suits you by the way, all honest for once.
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Shut up
comment by Gareth. (U1145)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
The same thing happened with Moyes... the players didn't even try
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That's what makes it worse, these players clearly are nowhere near innocent since they've done this twice now and yet Man Utd fans are talking about clean slates and forgetting the past
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
It's because the players ultimately have all the aces in their hands.
They're on the pitch every week, getting abuse from the oppo fans and players, the fans buy the PLAYERS shirts and follow the PLAYERS on social media etc.
Having star players, like Pogba, are not easy to come across these days either, hence why players like him will always win the battle.
Managers are easily replaceable, top players are not imo.
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The only way to stop it is for a club to back the manager against the players. But it would help the club make that decision if the fans backed the manager as well.
comment by No Love - Monumentally Dope (U1282)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows
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Ahahahaha
Hilarious.
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If you say so
They're on the pitch every week, getting abuse from the oppo fans and players, the fans buy the PLAYERS shirts and follow the PLAYERS on social media etc.
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Who the Fack would want to follow those idiots on social media?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvcibf4Y1bQ
watch this Wahl mate and have a Christmas tug
Managers have always been sacked after losing the dressing room. It's been going on for decades. New managers then always give players a clean slate.
Non story tbh.
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comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 24 minutes ago
Managers have always been sacked after losing the dressing room. It's been going on for decades. New managers then always give players a clean slate.
Non story tbh.
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No it hasn't. You're a bitter fool who hates Mourinho and it comes through in every comment you make about him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uC8w6X8oSo
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posted on 21/12/18
If every player that was shiyte under Mourinho needed to be sacked as well, we'd not have a team.
There has to be a clean slate to be able to move on.
posted on 21/12/18
You can move on without a clean slate.
posted on 21/12/18
Yeah great way to move on past this horrible time under Jose, bring all the negativity with us just so no one feels like they've 'got away with anything'.
posted on 21/12/18
Why should negativity towards the players go away when the manager goes. If a player did something wrong, that's his responsibility. Not Mourinho's.
posted on 21/12/18
Jose is gone, move on. United are trying to. You should do the same.
posted on 21/12/18
You can move on while being honest rather than deluding yourselves.
posted on 21/12/18
No one is deluded.
We all know Pogba is a bit of a caant and I'm not sure you'll be able to find posts from anyone on here that thinks he's completely innocent.
Other than booing him when he plays from now on I'm not sure how you actually expect people to move on, whilst still 'being honest'.
Moving on means hoping he stops being a caant, stops playing badly and begins to become a great player for us with a new manager.
posted on 21/12/18
I actually agree with bits of that wahl. The players get away with murder at times, and are generally spoilt petulant man children.
But to move on, a clean slate is needed. If we see no improvement from the underperfoymers, Sanchez, pogba etc..bin them.
posted on 21/12/18
I don't want to see United fans forgiving and forgetting or deluding themselves into thinking the players are completely innocent when the vast majority of them are guilty for not backing Mourinho 100%. You can move on whilst accepting that the players were wrong as well. Nothing changes in terms of the attitude towards the players when the manager leaves. If a player wasn't trying his hardest, just because the manager leaves, doesn't change that that player didn't try his hardest.
"Moving on means hoping he stops being a caant, stops playing badly and begins to become a great player for us with a new manager."
Absolutely nothing wrong with this, but never forget he was a caant and hold him responsible for that. if that means booing him, then boo him. I hate when football fans are fickle and forgive the player for everything just because he starts playing well again.
posted on 21/12/18
I actually agree with bits of that wahl. The players get away with murder at times, and are generally spoilt petulant man children.
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Broz, there is no coincidence that this is happening more and more frequently in football that managers are 'losing the dressing room'. The more times the players succeed in getting a manager fired, the more times they're gonna try it and the more common it will become. Eventually a club is going to need to take a stand against this and it should have been Chelsea when they had Mourinho in my opinion. Mourinho had done enough for Chelsea that they could have kept him and shut down the players who tried to get rid of him, but they bottled it and just contributed to this problem.
posted on 21/12/18
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows. (U21750)
posted 3 minutes ago
I actually agree with bits of that wahl. The players get away with murder at times, and are generally spoilt petulant man children.
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Broz, there is no coincidence that this is happening more and more frequently in football that managers are 'losing the dressing room'. The more times the players succeed in getting a manager fired, the more times they're gonna try it and the more common it will become. Eventually a club is going to need to take a stand against this and it should have been Chelsea when they had Mourinho in my opinion. Mourinho had done enough for Chelsea that they could have kept him and shut down the players who tried to get rid of him, but they bottled it and just contributed to this problem.
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Yeah player power needs stamped down. Not much you can do really unless introduce performance related pay to hit them where it hurts..
posted on 21/12/18
FFS l, who did you lose a bet with to change your name?
Suits you by the way, all honest for once.
posted on 21/12/18
The same thing happened with Moyes... the players didn't even try
posted on 21/12/18
It's because the players ultimately have all the aces in their hands.
They're on the pitch every week, getting abuse from the oppo fans and players, the fans buy the PLAYERS shirts and follow the PLAYERS on social media etc.
Having star players, like Pogba, are not easy to come across these days either, hence why players like him will always win the battle.
Managers are easily replaceable, top players are not imo.
posted on 21/12/18
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows
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Ahahahaha
Hilarious.
posted on 21/12/18
comment by ‘rd’ - if Kan’ye’ can, so can baz ta’rd’ (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows. (U21750)
posted 3 minutes ago
I actually agree with bits of that wahl. The players get away with murder at times, and are generally spoilt petulant man children.
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Broz, there is no coincidence that this is happening more and more frequently in football that managers are 'losing the dressing room'. The more times the players succeed in getting a manager fired, the more times they're gonna try it and the more common it will become. Eventually a club is going to need to take a stand against this and it should have been Chelsea when they had Mourinho in my opinion. Mourinho had done enough for Chelsea that they could have kept him and shut down the players who tried to get rid of him, but they bottled it and just contributed to this problem.
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Yeah player power needs stamped down. Not much you can do really unless introduce performance related pay to hit them where it hurts..
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Not firing managers every time they 'lose the dressing room' would be a start. And I'm not just talking about Mourinho, I mean every manager should have that.
posted on 21/12/18
comment by sᴉɥƃuǝlפ (U19365)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
FFSl, who did you lose a bet with to change your name?
Suits you by the way, all honest for once.
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Shut up
posted on 21/12/18
comment by Gareth. (U1145)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
The same thing happened with Moyes... the players didn't even try
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That's what makes it worse, these players clearly are nowhere near innocent since they've done this twice now and yet Man Utd fans are talking about clean slates and forgetting the past
posted on 21/12/18
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
It's because the players ultimately have all the aces in their hands.
They're on the pitch every week, getting abuse from the oppo fans and players, the fans buy the PLAYERS shirts and follow the PLAYERS on social media etc.
Having star players, like Pogba, are not easy to come across these days either, hence why players like him will always win the battle.
Managers are easily replaceable, top players are not imo.
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The only way to stop it is for a club to back the manager against the players. But it would help the club make that decision if the fans backed the manager as well.
posted on 21/12/18
comment by No Love - Monumentally Dope (U1282)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows
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Ahahahaha
Hilarious.
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If you say so
posted on 21/12/18
They're on the pitch every week, getting abuse from the oppo fans and players, the fans buy the PLAYERS shirts and follow the PLAYERS on social media etc.
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Who the Fack would want to follow those idiots on social media?
posted on 21/12/18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvcibf4Y1bQ
watch this Wahl mate and have a Christmas tug
posted on 21/12/18
Managers have always been sacked after losing the dressing room. It's been going on for decades. New managers then always give players a clean slate.
Non story tbh.
posted on 21/12/18
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posted on 21/12/18
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 24 minutes ago
Managers have always been sacked after losing the dressing room. It's been going on for decades. New managers then always give players a clean slate.
Non story tbh.
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No it hasn't. You're a bitter fool who hates Mourinho and it comes through in every comment you make about him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uC8w6X8oSo
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