Not a lot of point in Poch strengthening, if he leaves eight of his better players our of a cup tie. I wouldn`t be giving him money, if he did play his strongest side when required.
Maybe Poch wanted to try to sign Origi for £100m and Levy said no. We have no idea of what was wanted and what was discussed.
Maybe not, but it is clear as day he wanted help this window.
My view is poch wants top players and levy can only afford meh ones.
comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 7 minutes ago
My view is poch wants top players and levy can only afford meh ones.
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Yeh but who can blame Poch for wanting top players ? Very worrying really. Feels like he might think he has taken us as far as he can
Levy ain’t got the cash for top players at the moment, stadium way over budget, but we could surly still get a few that could improve us, what the fack are our scouts doing?
Stadium budget has definitely been blown and has forced Levy's hand but I suspect if the stadium had been within budget it would have been a similar case regardless.
I do think ENIC miss opportunities to invest in the club..if you look at FSG's model they invest a bit more to improve the squad with a couple of world class signings and they are now genuine title and champions League contenders. This in return will make them an awful lot of money as Liverpool establish themselves as a top club in Europe.
I think 2/3 top players would get us to that level.
Can somebody define top players? Are we talking about players that would market for £150 million. If so, very few clubs in world club football can afford them either, so don`t get all the Spurs should be signing top players.
Or are we talking about players that regularly go on the market from anything between £30 and £50 million, and most of them turn out to be absolute duds.
Well said pal.
The way in which Levy has leaked rumours about Poch turning down transfer possibilities is shocking.
We are where we are though.
Just bare in mind statements like this in mind when Poch leaves. No one in their right mind can say the club supported him.
Now - *if* the stadium fiasco (Levy's fault too) means we're skint, I actually understand why Levy is keeping that on the sly - encourages unwelcome bids for our players. Personally I'm sceptical. I think we have money but Levy is being Levy. He's always like this.
I wonder if chronic has ever commented on the stadium fiasco. Some excellent in-depth reporting explained the reason we are hundreds of millions over budget is because Levy turned down the offered fixed price. We are now hundreds of millions over that fixed price because Levy thought he could pull of a "VDV transfer" in stadium construction
I'll find the articles if anyone's interested. That decision by the chairman cost the club hundreds of millions.
Personally, I think Levy is our Wenger. You cannot deny what he's done historically but you have to question his performance in recent years.
I`ve said this before, Enic won`t take us to the final level any time soon, they are a business first and a football club second.
While Poch keeps squeezing every last drop out of our squad and achieving CL, Enic will be satisfied, trophies to them are an unexpected bonus.
We hear all these rumours of 150m to spend on players etc, dont make me laugh . We will be forced into doing plenty of business this summer and it will all be financed by the exit of Toby and Eriksen, once again another break window beckons.
It`s a sad state of affairs, keep what we have and add 3 top class players and we could seriously challenge, but we all know Enic won`t spend the money required to do it, we will just continue to go around in circles before eventually dropping out of the top four.
I`ve had enough of Enic, I can`t face being nearly men for much longer, it`s time to say thanks and for them to sell up to the most filthy rich owner with ambition they can find.
And all these rumours you read from so called ITK`s on other sites I`ve no doubt they are connected to the club in some form or another, but they are very cleverly being fed what the club wants us all to hear. The club isnt stupid and from the very top they just feed us as much sheet as possible to protect ticket sales etc.
The summer should be very interesting, but I will be shocked if we have a positive net spend of any more than 10m quid.
The club are just mugging the fans off imo.
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 3 minutes ago
I`ve said this before, Enic won`t take us to the final level any time soon, they are a business first and a football club second.
While Poch keeps squeezing every last drop out of our squad and achieving CL, Enic will be satisfied, trophies to them are an unexpected bonus.
We hear all these rumours of 150m to spend on players etc, dont make me laugh. We will be forced into doing plenty of business this summer and it will all be financed by the exit of Toby and Eriksen, once again another break window beckons.
It`s a sad state of affairs, keep what we have and add 3 top class players and we could seriously challenge, but we all know Enic won`t spend the money required to do it, we will just continue to go around in circles before eventually dropping out of the top four.
I`ve had enough of Enic, I can`t face being nearly men for much longer, it`s time to say thanks and for them to sell up to the most filthy rich owner with ambition they can find.
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All correct although you don't need a sugar daddy, or "filthy rich owner".
Our net spend over the past couple of seasons is lower than every side in the league.
Right know I'd happily take the same kind of investment Everton or Leicester have been making.
Totally agree Billy, I have been saying for years about wanting ENIC and CO out. I would like proper investors who are willing to back the manager to come in and take the club forward properly. They have done all they can to get us some stability, but time for serious big wigs to come in and give the club the push it deserves. Hoping Levy and ENIC sell up once the stadium
Is sorted.
For certain players you can see why waiting for the right one is a good move. But it's hard to believe a manager doesn't want to sign a player in two consecutive windows.
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Thankfully we have someone who understands the clubs situation as the manager. Rather than doughnuts like Don who would have thrown his toys out the oram ages ago.
Poch
The Liverpool model isn't just about investment, it's about clever business. Yes they've spent a lot but they sold Coutinho and brought in VVD and Allison. Those two, who have transformed the balance of that side, effectively cost nothing. Their only real outlay was for Keita and Fabinho. Ox was free, Shaqiri only about 10m. They've just done better business. This all points to the same thing. We probably need to sell Eriksen in the summer in order to redistribute the funds to build a more balanced team.
Chronic, Poch “ understands “ purely because he’s got no choice. It’s clear as day he is frustrated with it. The “donut “ , IE me, has been spot on about this for ages. You were trying to blame Poch for not signing players he is clearly saying here he wanted signings, you can’t really spin this anymore chronic
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
50-100mill players
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Thanks Jim white
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 40 minutes ago
The Liverpool model isn't just about investment, it's about clever business. Yes they've spent a lot but they sold Coutinho and brought in VVD and Allison. Those two, who have transformed the balance of that side, effectively cost nothing. Their only real outlay was for Keita and Fabinho. Ox was free, Shaqiri only about 10m. They've just done better business. This all points to the same thing. We probably need to sell Eriksen in the summer in order to redistribute the funds to build a more balanced team.
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That's a fair point and unfortunately because of Eriksen's contact situation we will get half of the Coutinho money.
However, I do think ENIC are excellent operators at a certain budget, but I do think they have missed an opportunity to grow with some investment. In any business you can get to a cerctain level through cost cutting and efficiencies, and that's what ENIC are, a fantastic restructuring firm.
I think once the stadium is complete that's the end of their cycle. To get more value out of Spurs you really do have to invest £150-200m to establish us as a big hitter in Europe. I completely understand their position but do expect them to sell in the next couple of years. Because from here even consistent top 4 will require regular investment.
They have done a great job to get us here but I think for everyone now would be a great time to sell up (assuming the buyer understands the situation!)
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. Mopo's #1 fan. (U7905)
posted 4 hours, 28 minutes ago
I do think ENIC miss opportunities to invest in the club..if you look at FSG's model they invest a bit more to improve the squad with a couple of world class signings and they are now genuine title and champions League contenders. This in return will make them an awful lot of money as Liverpool establish themselves as a top club in Europe.
I think 2/3 top players would get us to that level.
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ENIC has always treated the club as a cash register. They think of it as an investment to make them money, and not as a trophy winning proposition.
I've been hoping for some time that ENIC will sell out to someone who wants to win trophies.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 4 hours, 26 minutes ago
Can somebody define top players? Are we talking about players that would market for £150 million. If so, very few clubs in world club football can afford them either, so don`t get all the Spurs should be signing top players.
Or are we talking about players that regularly go on the market from anything between £30 and £50 million, and most of them turn out to be absolute duds.
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Sandy ... its awfully simple.
Top players are the ones Pochettino would really like to bring into the club if he had his druthers.
Got it now?
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posted on 1/2/19
Not a lot of point in Poch strengthening, if he leaves eight of his better players our of a cup tie. I wouldn`t be giving him money, if he did play his strongest side when required.
posted on 1/2/19
Maybe Poch wanted to try to sign Origi for £100m and Levy said no. We have no idea of what was wanted and what was discussed.
posted on 1/2/19
Maybe not, but it is clear as day he wanted help this window.
posted on 1/2/19
My view is poch wants top players and levy can only afford meh ones.
posted on 1/2/19
comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 7 minutes ago
My view is poch wants top players and levy can only afford meh ones.
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posted on 1/2/19
Yeh but who can blame Poch for wanting top players ? Very worrying really. Feels like he might think he has taken us as far as he can
posted on 1/2/19
Levy ain’t got the cash for top players at the moment, stadium way over budget, but we could surly still get a few that could improve us, what the fack are our scouts doing?
posted on 1/2/19
Stadium budget has definitely been blown and has forced Levy's hand but I suspect if the stadium had been within budget it would have been a similar case regardless.
posted on 1/2/19
I do think ENIC miss opportunities to invest in the club..if you look at FSG's model they invest a bit more to improve the squad with a couple of world class signings and they are now genuine title and champions League contenders. This in return will make them an awful lot of money as Liverpool establish themselves as a top club in Europe.
I think 2/3 top players would get us to that level.
posted on 1/2/19
Can somebody define top players? Are we talking about players that would market for £150 million. If so, very few clubs in world club football can afford them either, so don`t get all the Spurs should be signing top players.
Or are we talking about players that regularly go on the market from anything between £30 and £50 million, and most of them turn out to be absolute duds.
posted on 1/2/19
50-100mill players
posted on 1/2/19
Well said pal.
The way in which Levy has leaked rumours about Poch turning down transfer possibilities is shocking.
We are where we are though.
Just bare in mind statements like this in mind when Poch leaves. No one in their right mind can say the club supported him.
Now - *if* the stadium fiasco (Levy's fault too) means we're skint, I actually understand why Levy is keeping that on the sly - encourages unwelcome bids for our players. Personally I'm sceptical. I think we have money but Levy is being Levy. He's always like this.
I wonder if chronic has ever commented on the stadium fiasco. Some excellent in-depth reporting explained the reason we are hundreds of millions over budget is because Levy turned down the offered fixed price. We are now hundreds of millions over that fixed price because Levy thought he could pull of a "VDV transfer" in stadium construction
I'll find the articles if anyone's interested. That decision by the chairman cost the club hundreds of millions.
Personally, I think Levy is our Wenger. You cannot deny what he's done historically but you have to question his performance in recent years.
posted on 1/2/19
I`ve said this before, Enic won`t take us to the final level any time soon, they are a business first and a football club second.
While Poch keeps squeezing every last drop out of our squad and achieving CL, Enic will be satisfied, trophies to them are an unexpected bonus.
We hear all these rumours of 150m to spend on players etc, dont make me laugh . We will be forced into doing plenty of business this summer and it will all be financed by the exit of Toby and Eriksen, once again another break window beckons.
It`s a sad state of affairs, keep what we have and add 3 top class players and we could seriously challenge, but we all know Enic won`t spend the money required to do it, we will just continue to go around in circles before eventually dropping out of the top four.
I`ve had enough of Enic, I can`t face being nearly men for much longer, it`s time to say thanks and for them to sell up to the most filthy rich owner with ambition they can find.
posted on 1/2/19
And all these rumours you read from so called ITK`s on other sites I`ve no doubt they are connected to the club in some form or another, but they are very cleverly being fed what the club wants us all to hear. The club isnt stupid and from the very top they just feed us as much sheet as possible to protect ticket sales etc.
The summer should be very interesting, but I will be shocked if we have a positive net spend of any more than 10m quid.
The club are just mugging the fans off imo.
posted on 1/2/19
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 3 minutes ago
I`ve said this before, Enic won`t take us to the final level any time soon, they are a business first and a football club second.
While Poch keeps squeezing every last drop out of our squad and achieving CL, Enic will be satisfied, trophies to them are an unexpected bonus.
We hear all these rumours of 150m to spend on players etc, dont make me laugh. We will be forced into doing plenty of business this summer and it will all be financed by the exit of Toby and Eriksen, once again another break window beckons.
It`s a sad state of affairs, keep what we have and add 3 top class players and we could seriously challenge, but we all know Enic won`t spend the money required to do it, we will just continue to go around in circles before eventually dropping out of the top four.
I`ve had enough of Enic, I can`t face being nearly men for much longer, it`s time to say thanks and for them to sell up to the most filthy rich owner with ambition they can find.
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All correct although you don't need a sugar daddy, or "filthy rich owner".
Our net spend over the past couple of seasons is lower than every side in the league.
Right know I'd happily take the same kind of investment Everton or Leicester have been making.
posted on 1/2/19
Totally agree Billy, I have been saying for years about wanting ENIC and CO out. I would like proper investors who are willing to back the manager to come in and take the club forward properly. They have done all they can to get us some stability, but time for serious big wigs to come in and give the club the push it deserves. Hoping Levy and ENIC sell up once the stadium
Is sorted.
posted on 1/2/19
For certain players you can see why waiting for the right one is a good move. But it's hard to believe a manager doesn't want to sign a player in two consecutive windows.
posted on 1/2/19
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posted on 1/2/19
Thankfully we have someone who understands the clubs situation as the manager. Rather than doughnuts like Don who would have thrown his toys out the oram ages ago.
Poch
posted on 1/2/19
The Liverpool model isn't just about investment, it's about clever business. Yes they've spent a lot but they sold Coutinho and brought in VVD and Allison. Those two, who have transformed the balance of that side, effectively cost nothing. Their only real outlay was for Keita and Fabinho. Ox was free, Shaqiri only about 10m. They've just done better business. This all points to the same thing. We probably need to sell Eriksen in the summer in order to redistribute the funds to build a more balanced team.
posted on 1/2/19
Chronic, Poch “ understands “ purely because he’s got no choice. It’s clear as day he is frustrated with it. The “donut “ , IE me, has been spot on about this for ages. You were trying to blame Poch for not signing players he is clearly saying here he wanted signings, you can’t really spin this anymore chronic
posted on 1/2/19
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
50-100mill players
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Thanks Jim white
posted on 1/2/19
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 40 minutes ago
The Liverpool model isn't just about investment, it's about clever business. Yes they've spent a lot but they sold Coutinho and brought in VVD and Allison. Those two, who have transformed the balance of that side, effectively cost nothing. Their only real outlay was for Keita and Fabinho. Ox was free, Shaqiri only about 10m. They've just done better business. This all points to the same thing. We probably need to sell Eriksen in the summer in order to redistribute the funds to build a more balanced team.
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That's a fair point and unfortunately because of Eriksen's contact situation we will get half of the Coutinho money.
However, I do think ENIC are excellent operators at a certain budget, but I do think they have missed an opportunity to grow with some investment. In any business you can get to a cerctain level through cost cutting and efficiencies, and that's what ENIC are, a fantastic restructuring firm.
I think once the stadium is complete that's the end of their cycle. To get more value out of Spurs you really do have to invest £150-200m to establish us as a big hitter in Europe. I completely understand their position but do expect them to sell in the next couple of years. Because from here even consistent top 4 will require regular investment.
They have done a great job to get us here but I think for everyone now would be a great time to sell up (assuming the buyer understands the situation!)
posted on 1/2/19
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. Mopo's #1 fan. (U7905)
posted 4 hours, 28 minutes ago
I do think ENIC miss opportunities to invest in the club..if you look at FSG's model they invest a bit more to improve the squad with a couple of world class signings and they are now genuine title and champions League contenders. This in return will make them an awful lot of money as Liverpool establish themselves as a top club in Europe.
I think 2/3 top players would get us to that level.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ENIC has always treated the club as a cash register. They think of it as an investment to make them money, and not as a trophy winning proposition.
I've been hoping for some time that ENIC will sell out to someone who wants to win trophies.
posted on 1/2/19
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 4 hours, 26 minutes ago
Can somebody define top players? Are we talking about players that would market for £150 million. If so, very few clubs in world club football can afford them either, so don`t get all the Spurs should be signing top players.
Or are we talking about players that regularly go on the market from anything between £30 and £50 million, and most of them turn out to be absolute duds.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sandy ... its awfully simple.
Top players are the ones Pochettino would really like to bring into the club if he had his druthers.
Got it now?
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