Sounds like United under Ed.
Fair point. An important part of the process when it comes to philosophy managers like Sarri goes beyond finding them the right players, the entire boardroom structure has to be in alignment with it - not this complete disconnect between the board and the management/players.
Every clubs setup differently, since 2003 we've always been an organisation setup for the pragmatic managers with an owner whose never fully accepted that. If he did our boardroom chaos might be put into a bit of prospective because he wouldn't undercut them the way he does.
We're actually ahead of Arsenal & United in this sense, IMO, because they're still trying to figure out what they are in the midst of club philosophies driven by one long standing manager. We're setup one way with a board not pulling in that direction.
The biggest problem at Chelsea is the trigger-happy owner's obsession with immediate success which has also infected most Chelsea fans. Guardiola won nothing in his first season at City, but the club stuck with him and are now reaping the rewards. Even Fergie struggled in his first few seasons at Man U. Compare that with Chelsea who sacked managers who did very well at the club within very short stints - Di Matteo, Rafa, Carlo, Conte. The club was not able to build on that success and is now having to find another manager and start all over, esp if as expected Hazard leaves for Madrid. A new manager will need time, well beyond one season, and yet that's precisely what he won't get at Chelsea.
The biggest problem at Chelsea is the trigger-happy owner's obsession with immediate success which has also infected most Chelsea fans.
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It used to be an issue but from what I can read online, Abramovich is rather hands off at the moment.
At least, going by Sarri's comment, he is yet to meet him.
The biggest problem at Chelsea is the trigger-happy owner's obsession with immediate success
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This is a bit of an outdated stereotypical view. Not saying it didn't apply for yesteryear. But Roman is barely even seen these days. Gone are the days when he'd show his face at the training ground when things aren't going well.
Every clubs setup differently, since 2003 we've always been an organisation setup for the pragmatic managers with an owner whose never fully accepted that.
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That is so true. Most of Chelsea's success post 2003 has come from being defensively sound, pragmatic style and winning ugly when required. Ok you did score a lot of goals with the title win with Ancelloti, but generally pragmatic managers have succeeded where as more attack minded coaches seem to fail.
Wouldn't be surprised if you appointed Simeone next season and won the league. Perfect fit for Chelsea's setup.
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posted 40 minutes ago
Every clubs setup differently, since 2003 we've always been an organisation setup for the pragmatic managers with an owner whose never fully accepted that.
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That is so true. Most of Chelsea's success post 2003 has come from being defensively sound, pragmatic style and winning ugly when required. Ok you did score a lot of goals with the title win with Ancelloti, but generally pragmatic managers have succeeded where as more attack minded coaches seem to fail.
Wouldn't be surprised if you appointed Simeone next season and won the league. Perfect fit for Chelsea's setup.
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I prefer that style, this so called Sarri ball is rubbish on the eye and seems outdated
That is so true. Most of Chelsea's success post 2003 has come from being defensively sound, pragmatic style and winning ugly when required. Ok you did score a lot of goals with the title win with Ancelloti, but generally pragmatic managers have succeeded where as more attack minded coaches seem to fail.
Wouldn't be surprised if you appointed Simeone next season and won the league. Perfect fit for Chelsea's setup.
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Funny thing is Ancelotti made one of the most pragmatic decisions of any Chelsea manager the last 10 years. He realized his trusty diamond had been figured out just in time and switched to the 4-3-3, that decision won us the league. A lot of focus goes on Conte's switch to the back 3 (rightfully), but that had just as much of an impact.
Simeone would be a fantastic manager for us. Ticks all the boxes of a successful Chelsea manager, plus he's a bit of a d**k (AVB aside, d**ks seem to do well for us lol).
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All the time Roman is not/doesn't speaking to Sarri (his words) I can't see much changing.
We'll probably see off Malmo in the Europa & then see who we draw
Sarri will noty play City the same way he did last week in the cup final...or if he does - he needs to go
The Utd game could go either way, maybe a close one and Pens...is it pens or a replay...?
Unless things change from Feb to May, I cant see us getting any higher than where we are
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posted on 11/2/19
Sounds like United under Ed.
posted on 11/2/19
Fair point. An important part of the process when it comes to philosophy managers like Sarri goes beyond finding them the right players, the entire boardroom structure has to be in alignment with it - not this complete disconnect between the board and the management/players.
Every clubs setup differently, since 2003 we've always been an organisation setup for the pragmatic managers with an owner whose never fully accepted that. If he did our boardroom chaos might be put into a bit of prospective because he wouldn't undercut them the way he does.
We're actually ahead of Arsenal & United in this sense, IMO, because they're still trying to figure out what they are in the midst of club philosophies driven by one long standing manager. We're setup one way with a board not pulling in that direction.
posted on 11/2/19
The biggest problem at Chelsea is the trigger-happy owner's obsession with immediate success which has also infected most Chelsea fans. Guardiola won nothing in his first season at City, but the club stuck with him and are now reaping the rewards. Even Fergie struggled in his first few seasons at Man U. Compare that with Chelsea who sacked managers who did very well at the club within very short stints - Di Matteo, Rafa, Carlo, Conte. The club was not able to build on that success and is now having to find another manager and start all over, esp if as expected Hazard leaves for Madrid. A new manager will need time, well beyond one season, and yet that's precisely what he won't get at Chelsea.
posted on 11/2/19
The biggest problem at Chelsea is the trigger-happy owner's obsession with immediate success which has also infected most Chelsea fans.
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It used to be an issue but from what I can read online, Abramovich is rather hands off at the moment.
At least, going by Sarri's comment, he is yet to meet him.
posted on 11/2/19
The biggest problem at Chelsea is the trigger-happy owner's obsession with immediate success
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This is a bit of an outdated stereotypical view. Not saying it didn't apply for yesteryear. But Roman is barely even seen these days. Gone are the days when he'd show his face at the training ground when things aren't going well.
posted on 11/2/19
Every clubs setup differently, since 2003 we've always been an organisation setup for the pragmatic managers with an owner whose never fully accepted that.
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That is so true. Most of Chelsea's success post 2003 has come from being defensively sound, pragmatic style and winning ugly when required. Ok you did score a lot of goals with the title win with Ancelloti, but generally pragmatic managers have succeeded where as more attack minded coaches seem to fail.
Wouldn't be surprised if you appointed Simeone next season and won the league. Perfect fit for Chelsea's setup.
posted on 11/2/19
comment by Bumblebeetuna (U4302)
posted 40 minutes ago
Every clubs setup differently, since 2003 we've always been an organisation setup for the pragmatic managers with an owner whose never fully accepted that.
------
That is so true. Most of Chelsea's success post 2003 has come from being defensively sound, pragmatic style and winning ugly when required. Ok you did score a lot of goals with the title win with Ancelloti, but generally pragmatic managers have succeeded where as more attack minded coaches seem to fail.
Wouldn't be surprised if you appointed Simeone next season and won the league. Perfect fit for Chelsea's setup.
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I prefer that style, this so called Sarri ball is rubbish on the eye and seems outdated
posted on 11/2/19
That is so true. Most of Chelsea's success post 2003 has come from being defensively sound, pragmatic style and winning ugly when required. Ok you did score a lot of goals with the title win with Ancelloti, but generally pragmatic managers have succeeded where as more attack minded coaches seem to fail.
Wouldn't be surprised if you appointed Simeone next season and won the league. Perfect fit for Chelsea's setup.
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Funny thing is Ancelotti made one of the most pragmatic decisions of any Chelsea manager the last 10 years. He realized his trusty diamond had been figured out just in time and switched to the 4-3-3, that decision won us the league. A lot of focus goes on Conte's switch to the back 3 (rightfully), but that had just as much of an impact.
Simeone would be a fantastic manager for us. Ticks all the boxes of a successful Chelsea manager, plus he's a bit of a d**k (AVB aside, d**ks seem to do well for us lol).
posted on 11/2/19
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posted on 13/2/19
All the time Roman is not/doesn't speaking to Sarri (his words) I can't see much changing.
We'll probably see off Malmo in the Europa & then see who we draw
Sarri will noty play City the same way he did last week in the cup final...or if he does - he needs to go
The Utd game could go either way, maybe a close one and Pens...is it pens or a replay...?
Unless things change from Feb to May, I cant see us getting any higher than where we are
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