comment by Ibrox Elite (U5255)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Ibrox Elite (U5255)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Ibrox Elite (U5255)
posted 3 minutes ago
“The UK Home Office has a points-based system based on which clubs must apply to The FA for a "Governing Body Endorsement" for such players. (See p551 of the Premier League Handbook 2018/19 (Download PDF, size: 8.39MB))

If the player does not automatically meet these criteria, the club can request an FA Exceptions Panel consider the player’s experience and value in order to determine whether a Governing Body Endorsement should nevertheless be granted.”
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Defo doesn’t read to me that you need to have certain points to go to exceptions panel.

Quite the opposite in fact.
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Have you actually looked at the handbook?
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I’ve only read that bit that I quoted
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When you go into it, it explains things a bit more.
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I’ll take your word for it

He’s going to struggle to get into Colombian team while he’s still playing in Scotland given his current form and just one call up so if your right then he ain’t going to epl anytime soon.

That’s probably good news for us gers fans but he could still go to a France or Germany for decent money tho he’s always said he wants to play in epl

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No he would more than likely get a permit upon appeal due to gaining enough points.

The points you get awarded are right there. From the handbook.

The percentage of fees and wages points are for each club not the league. For eg last year for the bottom 10 teams was ranging from 5m (West brom) to 8.5m (Bournemouth) if he is going to an epl team it will be more than those two figures imo. So that's 2 points... He will also easily get over 50% of the average wage at the club so that's another 2. 4 points gained and appeal won

must be examples of non EU players moving from Scotland to England.

I don't see anything in the criteria that caters for someone already having a UK work permit but then having to meet the FA criteria.
Everything seems to be meet the criteria at the FA then apply for a work permit.

Wanyama and Kayal come to mind.

But then perhaps they did have to meet the criteria and re apply for the work permit..

Championship side Brighton & Hove Albion have been successful in their application for a work permit for Israel international Beram Kayal.

The Seagulls signed the 26-year-old midfielder from Scottish side Celtic for an undisclosed fee on Friday.

The permit was granted by a Football Association panel following a hearing on Wednesday morning.




He still needs a government visa from the Home Office and international clearance before he can make his debut.

comment by The Duke (U10059)
posted 32 minutes ago
Championship side Brighton & Hove Albion have been successful in their application for a work permit for Israel international Beram Kayal.

The Seagulls signed the 26-year-old midfielder from Scottish side Celtic for an undisclosed fee on Friday.

The permit was granted by a Football Association panel following a hearing on Wednesday morning.




He still needs a government visa from the Home Office and international clearance before he can make his debut.

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Kayal would probably have qualified through his international appearances alone.

how did that shiety Mexican get through then? Pena

comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by The Duke (U10059)
posted 32 minutes ago
Championship side Brighton & Hove Albion have been successful in their application for a work permit for Israel international Beram Kayal.

The Seagulls signed the 26-year-old midfielder from Scottish side Celtic for an undisclosed fee on Friday.

The permit was granted by a Football Association panel following a hearing on Wednesday morning.




He still needs a government visa from the Home Office and international clearance before he can make his debut.

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Kayal would probably have qualified through his international appearances alone.
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Na I think the international caps only applies to countries in the top 50 rankings. Israel were 69th in 2015. So it must have been appeal.

To be fair though it has been known for a club to just pay a bit extra and get the work permit. I think there is also some stupid ruling saying that if they of a high enough reputation they can be granted and was mainly used to allow players from Brazil and Argentina a chance as young players are very unlikely to have played enough games for those types of nations if any at all.

Like most things in football 9/10 money will sort it!!

comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 10 minutes ago
how did that shiety Mexican get through then? Pena
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The appeal process. He would have been a high enough transfer fee and high enough wages by far

‘The percentage of fees and wages points are for each club not the league.‘

From the handbook;

‘Qualifying Transfers means all transfers to Premier League clubs in the previous season in respect of players submitted on Premier League squad lists. The Qualifying Transfers value will be provided by The FA directly to The Premier League and The English Football League prior to each season and will remain in force for the duration of that season.’

Bournemouth bought 2 players at about or over £20 million. No idea what West Brom have to do with it, sorry-although did they not pay £15 million for Burke?!



For wages:

‘Qualifying Wages means the basic wages paid to the top 30 earners in each Premier League club at the end of the season prior to the date of the application. The value of Qualifying Wages will be provided by The FA directly to The Premier League and The English Football League prior to each season and will remain in force for the duration of that season.’

He’d need to be one of the top 8 earners at a team then.

I genuinely haven’t went into it in the detail that’s needed, but at least you can now see the process isn’t as straight forward as you thought. As I said, it was something I read ages ago and this is the first I’ve looked at it.

comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 14 minutes ago
how did that shiety Mexican get through then? Pena
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well Its Scotland and the requirement isn't as high
Ambrose failed to get one in England and ended up at Hibs

I think most wish Pena had had his request rejected.

comment by orange sherbet (U21919)
posted 6 minutes ago
Like most things in football 9/10 money will sort it!!
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Chelsea were knocked back for that Wiilian guy

Suddenly fixed …..

comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 17 minutes ago
‘The percentage of fees and wages points are for each club not the league.‘

From the handbook;

‘Qualifying Transfers means all transfers to Premier League clubs in the previous season in respect of players submitted on Premier League squad lists. The Qualifying Transfers value will be provided by The FA directly to The Premier League and The English Football League prior to each season and will remain in force for the duration of that season.’

Bournemouth bought 2 players at about or over £20 million. No idea what West Brom have to do with it, sorry-although did they not pay £15 million for Burke?!



For wages:

‘Qualifying Wages means the basic wages paid to the top 30 earners in each Premier League club at the end of the season prior to the date of the application. The value of Qualifying Wages will be provided by The FA directly to The Premier League and The English Football League prior to each season and will remain in force for the duration of that season.’

He’d need to be one of the top 8 earners at a team then.

I genuinely haven’t went into it in the detail that’s needed, but at least you can now see the process isn’t as straight forward as you thought. As I said, it was something I read ages ago and this is the first I’ve looked at it.
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The figures I gave were for the average transfer fee of players signed last year. West broms average fee last year was 5m and that was the lowest for the league last year. Bournemouth were the 10th highest average fee in the league at under 9m. Remember these average fees take into consideration free transfers.

I knew it was more complex than what I wrote originally I was keeping it brief.

To be honest the reason I ended up looking into it a couple of years ago was because of football manager cos it more or less follows the same rulings.

Last year bournemouth bout ake for around 21m and begovic for around 11m and two free transfers so averaging about 8m average fee.

The average is nothing to do with it though-The value of the transfer fee being paid for the player has to be in the top 25% of all transfers to Premier League clubs from the previou season for 3 points, or top 50% for 2 points.

I’ll leave it at that though.

comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 32 minutes ago
The average is nothing to do with it though-The value of the transfer fee being paid for the player has to be in the top 25% of all transfers to Premier League clubs from the previou season for 3 points, or top 50% for 2 points.

I’ll leave it at that though.
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That would not back up the kayal deal then he wouldn't have met the transfer fee (Brighton about 1m) he wouldn't have been in the wage bracket either being in the championship. Like I said money talks there is ways round work permits

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comment by orange sherbet (U21919)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 32 minutes ago
The average is nothing to do with it though-The value of the transfer fee being paid for the player has to be in the top 25% of all transfers to Premier League clubs from the previou season for 3 points, or top 50% for 2 points.

I’ll leave it at that though.
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That would not back up the kayal deal then he wouldn't have met the transfer fee (Brighton about 1m) he wouldn't have been in the wage bracket either being in the championship. Like I said money talks there is ways round work permits
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I think Kayak joined before the new rules started, but keep trying.

Can I go now?!