4. No Plan B. We have released all our Plan B strikers. Slimani has gone. Ulloja has gone. Whatever you think of them, they did offer another approach. If for example you found yourself 2-1 down at home to Crystal Palace with 15 minutes to go and wanted to mix things up a bit. Just saying.
5. No respect to the cups. We played a second team against Man City reserves in the QF of the League Cup and took them to penalties. If we had played just a few more first teamers we would probably have got through and with Burton in the semis would have had every chance of being in yesterday's Cup Final. Then, true to form, Claude ignored the criticism and repeated the mistake by fielding a second team against Newport County in the FA Cup and was rightly vilified.
I still maintain that if had picked decent sides in those two games and we had reached the League Cup Final and at least the 4th round of the FA Cup his stock would have been much higher and he would have had enough credit in the bank to survive the current run of poor league form.
6. Taciturn character. We cannot all be outgoing effervescent people cracking dilly ding dilly dong jokes, but he does come across in interviews as particularly dour and sometimes difficult to understand. If this is how he is on the training ground then communication with the players is never likely to be anything other than strained.
Ultimately, I think Puel has been the architect of his own downfall. He started a quiet revolution at the club, and the 'possession based Spring' at times started to show signs of life, but the club and fans wanted evolution not revolution. Most Leicester fans really wanted this to work out; we wanted younger players; we wanted footie on the ground; we were ready as a club to change. But equally we wanted to be entertained, we wanted a bit more urgency, a bit more attacking intent, we wanted fewer than 3 defensive midfielders in the starting line-up.
Make no mistake, this is not about Leicester fans getting too big for their boots and thinking we've arrived at the Top Table, just because we had the audacity to go and win the bloody thing three years ago. This is not because we think we deserve better than mid table mediocrity.
Ultimately there was no connection between the Manager and the Fans and seemingly the connection between Manager and players was also broken. His steadfast refusal to tweak his tactics, to liven things up a little, to show a bit of adventure or to recognise the importance of the domestic cups to Leicester fans was inevitably going to bring his tenure to a premature close.
Sticking with Morgan when most of us knew he was done last season told me he was tosh as a manager. Especially after signing Evans? No excuse and au revour!
comment by True Blue (U9486)
posted 9 minutes ago
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I second that!
I have sympathy in a way, in that it's not all his fault that the fans never took to him. We ourselves have to shoulder some responsibility for that.
Beyond that, he was brought in to do a job - to keep us up last season, to bring on a younger team, ship out some old guard and try to change a style of football. The last of those he's had limited success with (i.e. we're trying to play that way but consistently failing) but he's worked toward the others in compliance with the wishes of the upper echelons. But ultimately that was his job and he's been paid well for it.
Sadly i think the board have to take some blame.
They appointed a manager none of the fans wanted, whose previous job hadnt worked out, and had no charisma or personality apart from appearing arrogant and aloof.
No sympathy whatsoever should have gone a long time ago.
Not the fans fault you continue to play a lead booted keeper! Shot stopping is OK but over thinks everything else and does f All. Give Ward a chance?
Sorry fence DM but he got to stay only because his conduct after the accident
Sorry but why the sacking ?
LCFC roughly where they should be in the table, win a few and lose a few, Man U/Liverpool they're not.
comment by puffinthebushkangaroo (U1950)
posted 10 minutes ago
Sorry but why the sacking ?
LCFC roughly where they should be in the table, win a few and lose a few, Man U/Liverpool they're not.
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Yes you are right..... We could be worse. Look at a team like Spurs for instance, not won a thing in 20 odd years!
comment by puffinthebushkangaroo (U1950)
posted 17 minutes ago
Sorry but why the sacking ?
LCFC roughly where they should be in the table, win a few and lose a few, Man U/Liverpool they're not.
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Win a few (1) lose a few (7) in the last 9 games. Some of those defeats include Cardiff, Southampton, Wolves and NEWPORT. I’ll let you fill in the rest.
I’m just happy to be 12th though.
The OP sums this up well. Puel did some good things, but ultimately his stubbornness around “his way” needed to bring in results. It didn’t and sadly his sacking was inevitable.
Puffin - We were told a few weeks ago to be grateful that we were 7th. Now we should be grateful that we're 12th. After relegation, we should no doubt be grateful we ever got the chance to grace the Premier League, and fans of every Championship club will be telling us we all have delusions of grandeur for ever daring to want to be better than them.
It's competition out there. Everyone will drag you down if you give them the chance. And not just that, but every fan wants more for their club. I'm sure everyone else in the league thinks that Spurs have been punching above their weight for seasons, but you won't see it that way. Nor should you. Reasonable ambition and the wish to progress is not the sin that modern society tries to convince you it is.
Very well put Dunge. All we strive for as a football club is to improve and see progression. That’s fair enough - nobody plans to go backwards and accept the finance crippling risk of relegation.
Hey, some of us supporters dare to dream, that one day our little club could do something as magnificent as winning the league!
I'm disappointed that Top panicked unnecessarily and pulled the trigger. I'd have liked to see if Claude could have got some results with Tielemans in the team.
So yes I have a bit of sympathy for him but ultimately it's a results business so no real shock.
No sympathy whatsoever.
Turgid football which may work in parts of Europe but has been pretty unsuccessful here.
It has obviously worked in the past with the quality of players that graced Barcelona's ranks but many of the new style of managers prefer to play on the counter-attack and I would include Liverpool, United and to some degree, Spurs in that approach.
Outdated philosophy, no charisma and it seems very little loyalty from the players.
In his favour, he has brought through some talent and may be crying in his beer in a few years time when some of them reach their potential. But he was never going to motivate them and his departure now may just mean that we could keep some of them.
Out with the old, back to the new.
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 4 hours, 26 minutes ago
Puffin - We were told a few weeks ago to be grateful that we were 7th. Now we should be grateful that we're 12th. After relegation, we should no doubt be grateful we ever got the chance to grace the Premier League, and fans of every Championship club will be telling us we all have delusions of grandeur for ever daring to want to be better than them.
It's competition out there. Everyone will drag you down if you give them the chance. And not just that, but every fan wants more for their club. I'm sure everyone else in the league thinks that Spurs have been punching above their weight for seasons, but you won't see it that way. Nor should you. Reasonable ambition and the wish to progress is not the sin that modern society tries to convince you it is.
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Perfectly put!
comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 3 hours, 16 minutes ago
I'm disappointed that Top panicked unnecessarily and pulled the trigger. I'd have liked to see if Claude could have got some results with Tielemans in the team.
So yes I have a bit of sympathy for him but ultimately it's a results business so no real shock.
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Do not see the panic here? More of final straw!
comment by Florida Fox (U2500)
posted 1 hour, 51 minutes ago
comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 3 hours, 16 minutes ago
I'm disappointed that Top panicked unnecessarily and pulled the trigger. I'd have liked to see if Claude could have got some results with Tielemans in the team.
So yes I have a bit of sympathy for him but ultimately it's a results business so no real shock.
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Do not see the panic here? More of final straw!
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Saturday morning - no plan to replace Puel.
Sunday morning - Puel sacked.
= panic/knee-jerk reaction
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posted on 25/2/19
4. No Plan B. We have released all our Plan B strikers. Slimani has gone. Ulloja has gone. Whatever you think of them, they did offer another approach. If for example you found yourself 2-1 down at home to Crystal Palace with 15 minutes to go and wanted to mix things up a bit. Just saying.
5. No respect to the cups. We played a second team against Man City reserves in the QF of the League Cup and took them to penalties. If we had played just a few more first teamers we would probably have got through and with Burton in the semis would have had every chance of being in yesterday's Cup Final. Then, true to form, Claude ignored the criticism and repeated the mistake by fielding a second team against Newport County in the FA Cup and was rightly vilified.
I still maintain that if had picked decent sides in those two games and we had reached the League Cup Final and at least the 4th round of the FA Cup his stock would have been much higher and he would have had enough credit in the bank to survive the current run of poor league form.
6. Taciturn character. We cannot all be outgoing effervescent people cracking dilly ding dilly dong jokes, but he does come across in interviews as particularly dour and sometimes difficult to understand. If this is how he is on the training ground then communication with the players is never likely to be anything other than strained.
Ultimately, I think Puel has been the architect of his own downfall. He started a quiet revolution at the club, and the 'possession based Spring' at times started to show signs of life, but the club and fans wanted evolution not revolution. Most Leicester fans really wanted this to work out; we wanted younger players; we wanted footie on the ground; we were ready as a club to change. But equally we wanted to be entertained, we wanted a bit more urgency, a bit more attacking intent, we wanted fewer than 3 defensive midfielders in the starting line-up.
Make no mistake, this is not about Leicester fans getting too big for their boots and thinking we've arrived at the Top Table, just because we had the audacity to go and win the bloody thing three years ago. This is not because we think we deserve better than mid table mediocrity.
Ultimately there was no connection between the Manager and the Fans and seemingly the connection between Manager and players was also broken. His steadfast refusal to tweak his tactics, to liven things up a little, to show a bit of adventure or to recognise the importance of the domestic cups to Leicester fans was inevitably going to bring his tenure to a premature close.
posted on 25/2/19
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posted on 25/2/19
posted on 25/2/19
Sticking with Morgan when most of us knew he was done last season told me he was tosh as a manager. Especially after signing Evans? No excuse and au revour!
posted on 25/2/19
comment by True Blue (U9486)
posted 9 minutes ago
None
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I second that!
posted on 25/2/19
I have sympathy in a way, in that it's not all his fault that the fans never took to him. We ourselves have to shoulder some responsibility for that.
Beyond that, he was brought in to do a job - to keep us up last season, to bring on a younger team, ship out some old guard and try to change a style of football. The last of those he's had limited success with (i.e. we're trying to play that way but consistently failing) but he's worked toward the others in compliance with the wishes of the upper echelons. But ultimately that was his job and he's been paid well for it.
posted on 25/2/19
Sadly i think the board have to take some blame.
They appointed a manager none of the fans wanted, whose previous job hadnt worked out, and had no charisma or personality apart from appearing arrogant and aloof.
No sympathy whatsoever should have gone a long time ago.
posted on 25/2/19
Not the fans fault you continue to play a lead booted keeper! Shot stopping is OK but over thinks everything else and does f All. Give Ward a chance?
Sorry fence DM but he got to stay only because his conduct after the accident
posted on 25/2/19
Sorry but why the sacking ?
LCFC roughly where they should be in the table, win a few and lose a few, Man U/Liverpool they're not.
posted on 25/2/19
comment by puffinthebushkangaroo (U1950)
posted 10 minutes ago
Sorry but why the sacking ?
LCFC roughly where they should be in the table, win a few and lose a few, Man U/Liverpool they're not.
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Yes you are right..... We could be worse. Look at a team like Spurs for instance, not won a thing in 20 odd years!
posted on 25/2/19
comment by puffinthebushkangaroo (U1950)
posted 17 minutes ago
Sorry but why the sacking ?
LCFC roughly where they should be in the table, win a few and lose a few, Man U/Liverpool they're not.
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Win a few (1) lose a few (7) in the last 9 games. Some of those defeats include Cardiff, Southampton, Wolves and NEWPORT. I’ll let you fill in the rest.
I’m just happy to be 12th though.
The OP sums this up well. Puel did some good things, but ultimately his stubbornness around “his way” needed to bring in results. It didn’t and sadly his sacking was inevitable.
posted on 25/2/19
Puffin - We were told a few weeks ago to be grateful that we were 7th. Now we should be grateful that we're 12th. After relegation, we should no doubt be grateful we ever got the chance to grace the Premier League, and fans of every Championship club will be telling us we all have delusions of grandeur for ever daring to want to be better than them.
It's competition out there. Everyone will drag you down if you give them the chance. And not just that, but every fan wants more for their club. I'm sure everyone else in the league thinks that Spurs have been punching above their weight for seasons, but you won't see it that way. Nor should you. Reasonable ambition and the wish to progress is not the sin that modern society tries to convince you it is.
posted on 25/2/19
Very well put Dunge. All we strive for as a football club is to improve and see progression. That’s fair enough - nobody plans to go backwards and accept the finance crippling risk of relegation.
Hey, some of us supporters dare to dream, that one day our little club could do something as magnificent as winning the league!
posted on 25/2/19
I'm disappointed that Top panicked unnecessarily and pulled the trigger. I'd have liked to see if Claude could have got some results with Tielemans in the team.
So yes I have a bit of sympathy for him but ultimately it's a results business so no real shock.
posted on 25/2/19
No sympathy whatsoever.
Turgid football which may work in parts of Europe but has been pretty unsuccessful here.
It has obviously worked in the past with the quality of players that graced Barcelona's ranks but many of the new style of managers prefer to play on the counter-attack and I would include Liverpool, United and to some degree, Spurs in that approach.
Outdated philosophy, no charisma and it seems very little loyalty from the players.
In his favour, he has brought through some talent and may be crying in his beer in a few years time when some of them reach their potential. But he was never going to motivate them and his departure now may just mean that we could keep some of them.
Out with the old, back to the new.
posted on 25/2/19
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 4 hours, 26 minutes ago
Puffin - We were told a few weeks ago to be grateful that we were 7th. Now we should be grateful that we're 12th. After relegation, we should no doubt be grateful we ever got the chance to grace the Premier League, and fans of every Championship club will be telling us we all have delusions of grandeur for ever daring to want to be better than them.
It's competition out there. Everyone will drag you down if you give them the chance. And not just that, but every fan wants more for their club. I'm sure everyone else in the league thinks that Spurs have been punching above their weight for seasons, but you won't see it that way. Nor should you. Reasonable ambition and the wish to progress is not the sin that modern society tries to convince you it is.
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Perfectly put!
posted on 25/2/19
comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 3 hours, 16 minutes ago
I'm disappointed that Top panicked unnecessarily and pulled the trigger. I'd have liked to see if Claude could have got some results with Tielemans in the team.
So yes I have a bit of sympathy for him but ultimately it's a results business so no real shock.
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Do not see the panic here? More of final straw!
posted on 25/2/19
comment by Florida Fox (U2500)
posted 1 hour, 51 minutes ago
comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 3 hours, 16 minutes ago
I'm disappointed that Top panicked unnecessarily and pulled the trigger. I'd have liked to see if Claude could have got some results with Tielemans in the team.
So yes I have a bit of sympathy for him but ultimately it's a results business so no real shock.
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Do not see the panic here? More of final straw!
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Saturday morning - no plan to replace Puel.
Sunday morning - Puel sacked.
= panic/knee-jerk reaction
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