comment by Raptorā” (U1071)
posted 2 minutes ago
Given the amount of time left on his contract I cannot see us getting any more than 60-70 million for Eriksen.
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yes but i am saying this is where we have facked up. Could have sold him last summer for a coutinho like fee and reinvested as such.
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 5 minutes ago
we could be selling eriksen though for 100+ mill
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exactly.. and we need to reinvest this !!! and the toby fee.. and the dembele fee .. etc etc
every last penny should be reinvested !
eriksen I reckon goes for 45mill
toby for 25 mill
that's 70
11 for dembele that's 81
llorente trippier aurier davies can all go too.. probably about 60 mill there in todays market...
rose could be off.... 30 mill
that's 171..
lamela... ? 30 mill maybe...
201 mill..... but have to buy a whole new squad basically...
quick maths
Toby and Eriksen should recoup 100+ mill tbh.
then reinvest in quality CM, CAM and RB, and upgrading where required.
45mill for eriksen lol even with a year left levy will rinse madrid or barca
4/5 players in. 6 players out would be ideal for me.
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 19 minutes ago
Toby and Eriksen should recoup 100+ mill tbh.
then reinvest in quality CM, CAM and RB, and upgrading where required.
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CB !!!!!!!!!!!!!
like who?
Poch likes Sanchez and if he is going to have a future at spurs he needs to improve and can only do that with consistent run in the team. Him and Vertonghen had a decent partnership last season. Dier can go back there too as he is looking poorer in midfield season by season.
OK if Dier is gonna drop back there it means we need a DM... cos Wanyama is another one who needs to be sold.
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 50 seconds ago
OK if Dier is gonna drop back there it means we need a DM... cos Wanyama is another one who needs to be sold.
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yeah i said i want 2 CMs
Its madness you dont think any of where spurs are currently is to do with Poch.
I don't see any other manager out there that would get more out of your team (maybe Pep, but he likes a kitty), spurs are still a few players short of becoming serious contenders and Poch has them overachieving.
I like spurs as a club but I really hope Poch goes because you will massively regret it Sandy. How you don't believe Levy has any blame in this is crazy.
When a team wins the premier league, the key is to carry on pushing by adding a player or 2. So for a team who finished 3rd last season to not buy anyone whilst everyone around them does rests with Levy. Theres no way of denying this?
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 4 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 3 minutes ago
were enic and levy not at the club before poch joined and we werent consistently getting CL footy and were changing manager every couple of seasons?
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yeah they were.... not sure what your point is? the managers prior were consistently getting top 6 which is a big improvement on the Sugar era...
I reiterate that at the time, most fans, and the media, were all up in arms about the poch appointment.. so he was far from the obvious choice.
Redknapp was a good appointment. so was BMJ... AVB is really the only questionable one of recent times.
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My point isnt criticising levy, its just down playing poch is ridiculous...we bring in another manager and we are back to top 6..which is not what poch has been achieving at spurs, he has been achieving top 3.
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Sorry Phenom, are you telling us all that Poch is the only manager in world football that can get this current set of Spurs players into the top four of the Prem? Before Poch turned up I doubt most of our supporters had even heard of him. I certainly had not.
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 hours, 42 minutes ago
I said to you Chronic about 2 years ago that I think Pochettino will eventually get fed up if he feels he can’t take us further and doesn’t feel he is getting backed. The cracks are slowly starting to appear and he’s mentioning things in the media which equate to him feeling he’s taken us as far as he can with the budget he’s on. In other words, he is crying out for help this summer to push us on.
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Don, Poch has been there five years now with the best set of players that Spurs have had for 30 years, and still not won a bean? How long are you prepared to give him. That is the difference between Spurs and say Chelsea, they demand success, we are just happy to have a manager that poddles along with the odd good result. Not for me mate. Sorry, I want a manager now that can get a few trophies with this set of players. Poch has pulled the wool over everybody`s eyes for far too long.
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 4 hours, 36 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 1 minute ago
were enic and levy not at the club before poch joined and we werent consistently getting CL footy and were changing manager every couple of seasons?
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Yep. Like I said, Pochettino deserves more credit for the rise of Spurs in recent years. Our trophy haul is horrendous under Enic/Levy.
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that's fine .. on the pitch... but the club is a lot more than its on the pitch activity don..
the strides the whole club has taken has now set us up to be a sustainable elite club...
training ground / stadium / partnerships / even the spurs foundation is an excellent organization.. the whole club has moved MASSIVELY in the right direction under ENIC.
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Chronic, you see the greater picture. Far too many of our fans are going all ga gah over a manager that has won nothing. Successful clubs have ruthless men running the club, they hire and fire at will, but always end up getting the success the fans want. Most Spurs fans on here are just happy to stick with a loser manager like Poch, because they think he is a nice guy. I prefer a winner.
comment by Eighties Glory Years (U22086)
posted 3 hours, 57 minutes ago
I love you Sandy, but is it that time of the month my friend? What about the Keith Burkinshaw days? If Levy is such a "star" then why has he blown our best chance of going top of the League this season by not reinforcing our squad with his lack of investment.
I blame him for the reason Poch is as he is. Remember what Poch said, and I quote from the link I posted, ""That showed that we still have a lot of work to do, that showed we are not mature enough, that showed that to be in the last level you need more effort, you need more quality, to increase your capacity of commitment."... I believe this was a message from Poch to Levy. Anyway, let's how all this pans out. No matter what, we do have an immense new state of the art stadium and I believe the future is bright, no question. Just been going through a frustrating - typical Spursy - period that so many of us are used to be my now. At least we should be. They dangle that carrot in front of us time and time again and we see the light at the end of the tunnel only to real eyes it's a freight train.
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Poch is just making excuses now. He has been shocking at getting the team over the line, he is not a winner. Plenty of managers would have won something with this team. I like him as a person, but he is not a winner, and never will be. He could go to Real, and be out on his ear within six months, and he knows that.
comment by lol (U22088)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
Its madness you dont think any of where spurs are currently is to do with Poch.
When a team wins the premier league, the key is to carry on pushing by adding a player or 2. So for a team who finished 3rd last season to not buy anyone whilst everyone around them does rests with Levy. Theres no way of denying this?
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Leicester came from 15th with a team of journeymen to win the Prem, so your theory gets blown out of the water.
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If you are giving Levy credit for good league form i.e. getting into the top 4, then it's only fair you give him criticism for poor league form and us failing to make top 4, no?
All those times we failed in getting into the top 4 when we should have done, that should also fall on Levy's head then. You can't just decide that the good goes to Levy and the bad goes to the manager.
And we've been a top 4 team for almost 10 years now and not made the step up to winning anything in that time, so again, if he's getting praise for getting us top 4, he needs to take flack for us failing to build further on it.
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 17 minutes ago
Sandy writing deliberately inflammatory articles again, given up on Liverpool and now decided his time is better spent wumming fans of his own club.
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If you think posting positive articles about our owners and chairman are inflammatory, then maybe supporting Spurs is not for you Ace.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 13 minutes ago
If you are giving Levy credit for good league form i.e. getting into the top 4, then it's only fair you give him criticism for poor league form and us failing to make top 4, no?
All those times we failed in getting into the top 4 when we should have done, that should also fall on Levy's head then. You can't just decide that the good goes to Levy and the bad goes to the manager.
And we've been a top 4 team for almost 10 years now and not made the step up to winning anything in that time, so again, if he's getting praise for getting us top 4, he needs to take flack for us failing to build further on it.
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He hires and fires managers to get positive results on the field. His brief is to run the club, off the field. He is doing a fine job. It is up to the manager to get the result required, the current manager is doing an average job at best now, no trophies in five years, so expect Levy to do what all chairman do, not let it fester, he will make the decision to replace the current manager when he thinks it is needed. I back him 100 per cent whatever he decides.
no way is levy firing poch sandy.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 13 minutes ago
If you are giving Levy credit for good league form i.e. getting into the top 4, then it's only fair you give him criticism for poor league form and us failing to make top 4, no?
All those times we failed in getting into the top 4 when we should have done, that should also fall on Levy's head then. You can't just decide that the good goes to Levy and the bad goes to the manager.
And we've been a top 4 team for almost 10 years now and not made the step up to winning anything in that time, so again, if he's getting praise for getting us top 4, he needs to take flack for us failing to build further on it.
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He hires and fires managers to get positive results on the field. His brief is to run the club, off the field. He is doing a fine job. It is up to the manager to get the result required, the current manager is doing an average job at best now, no trophies in five years, so expect Levy to do what all chairman do, not let it fester, he will make the decision to replace the current manager when he thinks it is needed. I back him 100 per cent whatever he decides.
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So yeah, basically Levy can do no wrong in your book. If we finish outside the top 4 then it's Poch's fault and if we finish in the top 4, it's congrats to Levy for another job well done. And if we win the CL then Levy is an absolute hero.
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posted on 14/3/19
comment by Raptorā” (U1071)
posted 2 minutes ago
Given the amount of time left on his contract I cannot see us getting any more than 60-70 million for Eriksen.
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yes but i am saying this is where we have facked up. Could have sold him last summer for a coutinho like fee and reinvested as such.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 5 minutes ago
we could be selling eriksen though for 100+ mill
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exactly.. and we need to reinvest this !!! and the toby fee.. and the dembele fee .. etc etc
every last penny should be reinvested !
posted on 14/3/19
eriksen I reckon goes for 45mill
toby for 25 mill
that's 70
11 for dembele that's 81
llorente trippier aurier davies can all go too.. probably about 60 mill there in todays market...
rose could be off.... 30 mill
that's 171..
lamela... ? 30 mill maybe...
201 mill..... but have to buy a whole new squad basically...
quick maths
posted on 14/3/19
Toby and Eriksen should recoup 100+ mill tbh.
then reinvest in quality CM, CAM and RB, and upgrading where required.
posted on 14/3/19
45mill for eriksen lol even with a year left levy will rinse madrid or barca
posted on 14/3/19
4/5 players in. 6 players out would be ideal for me.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 19 minutes ago
Toby and Eriksen should recoup 100+ mill tbh.
then reinvest in quality CM, CAM and RB, and upgrading where required.
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CB !!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted on 14/3/19
like who?
Poch likes Sanchez and if he is going to have a future at spurs he needs to improve and can only do that with consistent run in the team. Him and Vertonghen had a decent partnership last season. Dier can go back there too as he is looking poorer in midfield season by season.
posted on 14/3/19
OK if Dier is gonna drop back there it means we need a DM... cos Wanyama is another one who needs to be sold.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 50 seconds ago
OK if Dier is gonna drop back there it means we need a DM... cos Wanyama is another one who needs to be sold.
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yeah i said i want 2 CMs
posted on 14/3/19
greedy caaaaant
posted on 14/3/19
Fickle
posted on 14/3/19
THudd out.
posted on 14/3/19
Its madness you dont think any of where spurs are currently is to do with Poch.
I don't see any other manager out there that would get more out of your team (maybe Pep, but he likes a kitty), spurs are still a few players short of becoming serious contenders and Poch has them overachieving.
I like spurs as a club but I really hope Poch goes because you will massively regret it Sandy. How you don't believe Levy has any blame in this is crazy.
When a team wins the premier league, the key is to carry on pushing by adding a player or 2. So for a team who finished 3rd last season to not buy anyone whilst everyone around them does rests with Levy. Theres no way of denying this?
posted on 14/3/19
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 4 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 3 minutes ago
were enic and levy not at the club before poch joined and we werent consistently getting CL footy and were changing manager every couple of seasons?
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yeah they were.... not sure what your point is? the managers prior were consistently getting top 6 which is a big improvement on the Sugar era...
I reiterate that at the time, most fans, and the media, were all up in arms about the poch appointment.. so he was far from the obvious choice.
Redknapp was a good appointment. so was BMJ... AVB is really the only questionable one of recent times.
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My point isnt criticising levy, its just down playing poch is ridiculous...we bring in another manager and we are back to top 6..which is not what poch has been achieving at spurs, he has been achieving top 3.
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Sorry Phenom, are you telling us all that Poch is the only manager in world football that can get this current set of Spurs players into the top four of the Prem? Before Poch turned up I doubt most of our supporters had even heard of him. I certainly had not.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 hours, 42 minutes ago
I said to you Chronic about 2 years ago that I think Pochettino will eventually get fed up if he feels he can’t take us further and doesn’t feel he is getting backed. The cracks are slowly starting to appear and he’s mentioning things in the media which equate to him feeling he’s taken us as far as he can with the budget he’s on. In other words, he is crying out for help this summer to push us on.
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Don, Poch has been there five years now with the best set of players that Spurs have had for 30 years, and still not won a bean? How long are you prepared to give him. That is the difference between Spurs and say Chelsea, they demand success, we are just happy to have a manager that poddles along with the odd good result. Not for me mate. Sorry, I want a manager now that can get a few trophies with this set of players. Poch has pulled the wool over everybody`s eyes for far too long.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 4 hours, 36 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 1 minute ago
were enic and levy not at the club before poch joined and we werent consistently getting CL footy and were changing manager every couple of seasons?
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Yep. Like I said, Pochettino deserves more credit for the rise of Spurs in recent years. Our trophy haul is horrendous under Enic/Levy.
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that's fine .. on the pitch... but the club is a lot more than its on the pitch activity don..
the strides the whole club has taken has now set us up to be a sustainable elite club...
training ground / stadium / partnerships / even the spurs foundation is an excellent organization.. the whole club has moved MASSIVELY in the right direction under ENIC.
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Chronic, you see the greater picture. Far too many of our fans are going all ga gah over a manager that has won nothing. Successful clubs have ruthless men running the club, they hire and fire at will, but always end up getting the success the fans want. Most Spurs fans on here are just happy to stick with a loser manager like Poch, because they think he is a nice guy. I prefer a winner.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by Eighties Glory Years (U22086)
posted 3 hours, 57 minutes ago
I love you Sandy, but is it that time of the month my friend? What about the Keith Burkinshaw days? If Levy is such a "star" then why has he blown our best chance of going top of the League this season by not reinforcing our squad with his lack of investment.
I blame him for the reason Poch is as he is. Remember what Poch said, and I quote from the link I posted, ""That showed that we still have a lot of work to do, that showed we are not mature enough, that showed that to be in the last level you need more effort, you need more quality, to increase your capacity of commitment."... I believe this was a message from Poch to Levy. Anyway, let's how all this pans out. No matter what, we do have an immense new state of the art stadium and I believe the future is bright, no question. Just been going through a frustrating - typical Spursy - period that so many of us are used to be my now. At least we should be. They dangle that carrot in front of us time and time again and we see the light at the end of the tunnel only to real eyes it's a freight train.
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Poch is just making excuses now. He has been shocking at getting the team over the line, he is not a winner. Plenty of managers would have won something with this team. I like him as a person, but he is not a winner, and never will be. He could go to Real, and be out on his ear within six months, and he knows that.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by lol (U22088)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
Its madness you dont think any of where spurs are currently is to do with Poch.
When a team wins the premier league, the key is to carry on pushing by adding a player or 2. So for a team who finished 3rd last season to not buy anyone whilst everyone around them does rests with Levy. Theres no way of denying this?
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Leicester came from 15th with a team of journeymen to win the Prem, so your theory gets blown out of the water.
posted on 14/3/19
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posted on 14/3/19
If you are giving Levy credit for good league form i.e. getting into the top 4, then it's only fair you give him criticism for poor league form and us failing to make top 4, no?
All those times we failed in getting into the top 4 when we should have done, that should also fall on Levy's head then. You can't just decide that the good goes to Levy and the bad goes to the manager.
And we've been a top 4 team for almost 10 years now and not made the step up to winning anything in that time, so again, if he's getting praise for getting us top 4, he needs to take flack for us failing to build further on it.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 17 minutes ago
Sandy writing deliberately inflammatory articles again, given up on Liverpool and now decided his time is better spent wumming fans of his own club.
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If you think posting positive articles about our owners and chairman are inflammatory, then maybe supporting Spurs is not for you Ace.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 13 minutes ago
If you are giving Levy credit for good league form i.e. getting into the top 4, then it's only fair you give him criticism for poor league form and us failing to make top 4, no?
All those times we failed in getting into the top 4 when we should have done, that should also fall on Levy's head then. You can't just decide that the good goes to Levy and the bad goes to the manager.
And we've been a top 4 team for almost 10 years now and not made the step up to winning anything in that time, so again, if he's getting praise for getting us top 4, he needs to take flack for us failing to build further on it.
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He hires and fires managers to get positive results on the field. His brief is to run the club, off the field. He is doing a fine job. It is up to the manager to get the result required, the current manager is doing an average job at best now, no trophies in five years, so expect Levy to do what all chairman do, not let it fester, he will make the decision to replace the current manager when he thinks it is needed. I back him 100 per cent whatever he decides.
posted on 14/3/19
no way is levy firing poch sandy.
posted on 14/3/19
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 13 minutes ago
If you are giving Levy credit for good league form i.e. getting into the top 4, then it's only fair you give him criticism for poor league form and us failing to make top 4, no?
All those times we failed in getting into the top 4 when we should have done, that should also fall on Levy's head then. You can't just decide that the good goes to Levy and the bad goes to the manager.
And we've been a top 4 team for almost 10 years now and not made the step up to winning anything in that time, so again, if he's getting praise for getting us top 4, he needs to take flack for us failing to build further on it.
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He hires and fires managers to get positive results on the field. His brief is to run the club, off the field. He is doing a fine job. It is up to the manager to get the result required, the current manager is doing an average job at best now, no trophies in five years, so expect Levy to do what all chairman do, not let it fester, he will make the decision to replace the current manager when he thinks it is needed. I back him 100 per cent whatever he decides.
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So yeah, basically Levy can do no wrong in your book. If we finish outside the top 4 then it's Poch's fault and if we finish in the top 4, it's congrats to Levy for another job well done. And if we win the CL then Levy is an absolute hero.
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