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comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 31/3/19

Seems international break is causing this

posted on 31/3/19

Sounds like us yesterday

posted on 31/3/19

Absolute shambles

posted on 31/3/19

comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 49 minutes ago
Seems international break is causing this
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NO!

SARRI IS CAUSING THIS!!

posted on 31/3/19

Sarri is a legwnd

posted on 31/3/19

Lifetime contract for Sarri ?

Cheers ref

posted on 31/3/19

Ole ole ole ole sarri sarri,

posted on 31/3/19

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comment by KCee (U20746)

posted on 31/3/19

Why does this useless manager keep selecting Higuain over Giroud? Higuain has never been fit since he left Real. It really baffles me.

comment by Bov (U6696)

posted on 31/3/19

I can't stand the way he takes off Jorginho whenever we start losing. It's an admission the guy brings nothing to the midfield/team so leave him out from the start. None of Jorg's fan boys going to defend him?

posted on 31/3/19

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comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 31/3/19

I can't stand the way he takes off Jorginho whenever we start losing. It's an admission the guy brings nothing to the midfield/team so leave him out from the start
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Rubbish. He subs Jorginho off whether we're winning, losing or drawing now. It's his new Kovacic for Barkley, Barkley for Kovacic. Just like RLC coming on but never starting is a guarantee at this point.

Sarri's use of subs is indefensible, I'm with the Sarri out crowd on that front. It's one thing to not be proactive, it's another thing to be reactive instead, but Sarri's neither. His subs are so fixated on fitness and playing time that they become completely irrelevant.

comment by Bov (U6696)

posted on 31/3/19

Tell me what he brings to the team? Why he loses possesion on the easiest of passes when he's there to keep us ticking over? He should be subbed and he shouldn't start. Note how we break quicker when he's not around. Sarri out while we're at it. Today was total sheit. No excuses this is Cardiff and the performance is not acceptable.
As for bastions of knowledge that is reserved for those who see something is Jorginho the rest don't. Maybe it's the emperors new clothing.

posted on 31/3/19

comment by Bov (U6696)
posted 19 minutes ago
Tell me what he brings to the team? Why he loses possesion on the easiest of passes when he's there to keep us ticking over? He should be subbed and he shouldn't start. Note how we break quicker when he's not around. Sarri out while we're at it. Today was total sheit. No excuses this is Cardiff and the performance is not acceptable.
As for bastions of knowledge that is reserved for those who see something is Jorginho the rest don't. Maybe it's the emperors new clothing.
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Even xavi,iniesta would struggle with lack of movement, people need to lay off jorginho, imagine coming from a team that moves the ball hundred miles an hour's to a slow labouring team that only plays on counter attack, and then be the scapegoat cause you playing with statues, beats me

posted on 31/3/19

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posted on 31/3/19

comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 11 minutes ago
Sarri's use of subs is indefensible, I'm with the Sarri out crowd on that front. It's one thing to not be proactive, it's another thing to be reactive instead, but Sarri's neither. His subs are so fixated on fitness and playing time that they become completely irrelevant.
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I think his substitutions since he started including another attacking option instead of a fullback have been generally good. It's his starting line-ups which are the problem. He is constantly having to make amends to it when the players he brings on should be starting from the off.
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Agreed his subs have improved, and not so predictable as before, but as you say he needs to work on his starting 11, to avoid making those subs

comment by Bov (U6696)

posted on 31/3/19

comment by LegendOsgood (U7946)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Bov (U6696)
posted 19 minutes ago
Tell me what he brings to the team? Why he loses possesion on the easiest of passes when he's there to keep us ticking over? He should be subbed and he shouldn't start. Note how we break quicker when he's not around. Sarri out while we're at it. Today was total sheit. No excuses this is Cardiff and the performance is not acceptable.
As for bastions of knowledge that is reserved for those who see something is Jorginho the rest don't. Maybe it's the emperors new clothing.
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Even xavi,iniesta would struggle with lack of movement, people need to lay off jorginho, imagine coming from a team that moves the ball hundred miles an hour's to a slow labouring team that only plays on counter attack, and then be the scapegoat cause you playing with statues, beats me
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so cos there's no movement it excuses his stray passing? The movement seems to be there when he was taken off. We certainly had more urgency. Still want to know what he's brought to the team in recent months. What is being said that the other players lack movement so he cannot perform so change all the other players? He's been poor and if the team isn't suiting him , a that's a worry cos I'd expect him to adapt and b drop him.

comment by BlueJ2 (U4630)

posted on 31/3/19

I feel for Jorginho. I really do think he has incredible ability, but his game is dependent on the movement of players around him. And he’s forced to play with people like Kovacic and Barkley. Jorginho does not have good pace, and that is shown up much more clearly in England where the game is played at 100 mph. But he is a very clever player, and if we had others with good footballing brains to play around him he would look much better.

posted on 31/3/19

comment by KCee (U20746)
posted 5 hours, 17 minutes ago
Why does this useless manager keep selecting Higuain over Giroud? Higuain has never been fit since he left Real. It really baffles me.
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And Giroud is rarely effective - we have poor choices upfront

posted on 31/3/19

comment by LegendOsgood (U7946)
posted 3 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 11 minutes ago
Sarri's use of subs is indefensible, I'm with the Sarri out crowd on that front. It's one thing to not be proactive, it's another thing to be reactive instead, but Sarri's neither. His subs are so fixated on fitness and playing time that they become completely irrelevant.
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I think his substitutions since he started including another attacking option instead of a fullback have been generally good. It's his starting line-ups which are the problem. He is constantly having to make amends to it when the players he brings on should be starting from the off.
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Agreed his subs have improved, and not so predictable as before, but as you say he needs to work on his starting 11, to avoid making those subs
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Thing is...it's not difficult is it...Sarriball or not you use your best players when fit

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 31/3/19

Sarri's use of subs is indefensible, I'm with the Sarri out crowd on that front. It's one thing to not be proactive, it's another thing to be reactive instead, but Sarri's neither. His subs are so fixated on fitness and playing time that they become completely irrelevant.
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I think his substitutions since he started including another attacking option instead of a fullback have been generally good. It's his starting line-ups which are the problem. He is constantly having to make amends to it when the players he brings on should be starting from the off.
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Agreed his subs have improved, and not so predictable as before, but as you say he needs to work on his starting 11, to avoid making those subs
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Nope, just as predictable as before, just different predictable. Jorginho off between 55-65 mins, RLC will come on (but never start), Giroud for Higuain or Pedro for Willian/vice versa is guaranteed. CHO is the wildcard sub. Switching to the 4231 is good but the fact it's always Jorginho whose sacrificed to do it makes even that predictable.

I've never been a fan to slate managers who make reactive changes in games, not every manager sees subs as pivotal game changers like Mourinho and there's nothing wrong with that but Sarri is something else. Use of his bench wasn't one of Conte's biggest strengths but even he wasn't this bad.

posted on 31/3/19

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posted on 1/4/19

comment by Devil D.A. (U6522)
posted 10 hours, 1 minute ago
Sarri's use of subs is indefensible, I'm with the Sarri out crowd on that front. It's one thing to not be proactive, it's another thing to be reactive instead, but Sarri's neither. His subs are so fixated on fitness and playing time that they become completely irrelevant.
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I think his substitutions since he started including another attacking option instead of a fullback have been generally good. It's his starting line-ups which are the problem. He is constantly having to make amends to it when the players he brings on should be starting from the off.
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Agreed his subs have improved, and not so predictable as before, but as you say he needs to work on his starting 11, to avoid making those subs
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Nope, just as predictable as before, just different predictable. Jorginho off between 55-65 mins, RLC will come on (but never start), Giroud for Higuain or Pedro for Willian/vice versa is guaranteed. CHO is the wildcard sub. Switching to the 4231 is good but the fact it's always Jorginho whose sacrificed to do it makes even that predictable.

I've never been a fan to slate managers who make reactive changes in games, not every manager sees subs as pivotal game changers like Mourinho and there's nothing wrong with that but Sarri is something else. Use of his bench wasn't one of Conte's biggest strengths but even he wasn't this bad.
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Conte's strength was to identify a pattern of play with wing backs & stick to it, yeah he had no Europe to detract him, but he used what he had to their best, even changing the likes of Moses into a new role to do it
You could say that's a bit like Sarri with Kante, but it's a tentative comparison at best

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 1/4/19

Conte's strength was to identify a pattern of play with wing backs & stick to it, yeah he had no Europe to detract him, but he used what he had to their best, even changing the likes of Moses into a new role to do it
You could say that's a bit like Sarri with Kante, but it's a tentative comparison at best
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I'm talking strictly about the use of substitutions. You're right, Conte (like Sarri) focused more on the overall gameplan rather than using subs to inject a certain element into the game depending on the situation and individual quality of his players - but he did do it occasionally, Sarri never does it.

I take Sideshow's point. We don't really have the options to facilitate meaningful substitutions that stick to Sarri's ideology, we're having trouble getting the basics of his football right let alone altering things, but too often I get the impression he's making substitutions purely on factors like fitness and giving certain players minutes. With another squad more suited to his needs that might be different.

posted on 1/4/19

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