comment by Wahl Might (U22137)
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comment by BlueJ2 (U4630)
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I think there should be fewer teams from each nation - not more. It was much better in the old days where one individual club would represent that nation in the competition. Now it’s all about money - the bigger clubs insist that they play in the CL every year, even if they finish 4th in their league (and include my team in that). It’s ridiculous. I’d much prefer to play the Champions of Bulgaria or Iceland or Slovakia, than have to play Arsenal again.
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... Why?
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FFS the Europa League is basically this and every English fan hates it!
comment by Wahl Might (U22137)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
Havent read the other comments... but 6th in PL one season are good enough to win the CL the next, so yes.
They may as well start with one competition, loads more teams but same number of games per team.
Split after the group stage into CL and EL.
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That's a really good idea actually
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I'd echo this in principle....it would certainly ensure the very best get into the latter stages of the best comp
but you'd probably get very little uptake for the Europa when it gets split, as it'll be full of pub sides in the main.
Then you'd still have to give the winner a CL berth next term.
You might even get the odd team throwing a match in order to get into the lesser comp come match 6 so they have a better chance of winning something..
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Might (U22137)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
Havent read the other comments... but 6th in PL one season are good enough to win the CL the next, so yes.
They may as well start with one competition, loads more teams but same number of games per team.
Split after the group stage into CL and EL.
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That's a really good idea actually
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I'd echo this in principle....it would certainly ensure the very best get into the latter stages of the best comp
but you'd probably get very little uptake for the Europa when it gets split, as it'll be full of pub sides in the main.
Then you'd still have to give the winner a CL berth next term.
You might even get the odd team throwing a match in order to get into the lesser comp come match 6 so they have a better chance of winning something..
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You can still do that currently though. That's how Atletico won it last year and how we won it the first time.
"You can still do that currently though. That's how Atletico won it last year and how we won it the first time."
Lol so Atletico deliebretely got knocked out and LVG deliberately finished 5th out of some sort of master plan to win Europa
comment by Wahl Might (U22137)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Might (U22137)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
Havent read the other comments... but 6th in PL one season are good enough to win the CL the next, so yes.
They may as well start with one competition, loads more teams but same number of games per team.
Split after the group stage into CL and EL.
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That's a really good idea actually
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I'd echo this in principle....it would certainly ensure the very best get into the latter stages of the best comp
but you'd probably get very little uptake for the Europa when it gets split, as it'll be full of pub sides in the main.
Then you'd still have to give the winner a CL berth next term.
You might even get the odd team throwing a match in order to get into the lesser comp come match 6 so they have a better chance of winning something..
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You can still do that currently though. That's how Atletico won it last year and how we won it the first time.
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what...throw a match....we just weren't good enough in 13 for the CL
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Wahl Might (U22137)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Might (U22137)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
Havent read the other comments... but 6th in PL one season are good enough to win the CL the next, so yes.
They may as well start with one competition, loads more teams but same number of games per team.
Split after the group stage into CL and EL.
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That's a really good idea actually
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I'd echo this in principle....it would certainly ensure the very best get into the latter stages of the best comp
but you'd probably get very little uptake for the Europa when it gets split, as it'll be full of pub sides in the main.
Then you'd still have to give the winner a CL berth next term.
You might even get the odd team throwing a match in order to get into the lesser comp come match 6 so they have a better chance of winning something..
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You can still do that currently though. That's how Atletico won it last year and how we won it the first time.
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what...throw a match....we just weren't good enough in 13 for the CL
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Lack of investment after somehow winning the CL with an aging & scratch side
No they didn't throw the match, they dropped down though. That would still be possible.
Teams don't throw matches under the current system so why would they start throwing matches in the new system?
comment by Wahl Might (U22137)
posted 1 minute ago
No they didn't throw the match, they dropped down though. That would still be possible.
Teams don't throw matches under the current system so why would they start throwing matches in the new system?
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5 minutes ago you said they did!
comment by Wahl Might (U22137)
posted 5 seconds ago
No they didn't throw the match, they dropped down though. That would still be possible.
Teams don't throw matches under the current system so why would they start throwing matches in the new system?
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Because the new format of splitting would not nessesarily have any good sides in it from the start, & hence be potentially easier to win
I have never been a fan of teams dropping into the Europa from the CL.... a ridiculous situation really....even though we did it & benefitted in 13
Because the new format of splitting would not nessesarily have any good sides in it from the start, & hence be potentially easier to win
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But DJ was saying that it should be split after the group stage into a EL and CL.
comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
Because the new format of splitting would not nessesarily have any good sides in it from the start, & hence be potentially easier to win
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But DJ was saying that it should be split after the group stage into a EL and CL.
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yeah...with every team qualified for "europe" in one comp from the start...which should sort the wheat from the chaff
No. Competition's become too diluted as it is without doing that.
I know football's all about money and competitive edge but there has to be a line somewhere. At some point the term "champions" in Champions League has to mean something. It's bad enough as it is without the 6th best team in one country being allow entry.
Would be boring mate, we see these sides play each other twice (minimum) each season, don't want to be watching it again in the champions league
It's best when you play teams from other European nations.
But Knee dude, Would you rather see Barcelona vs Lyon or Barcelona vs Chelsea for example?
they should just scrap the whole lot, its getting ridiculous how many teams certain Countries get
Just have two leagues of 12 with relegation and Promotion and get rid of the CL altogether
The rest can fight it out for the Europa League, winners of Europa League get Promoted to the Top Leagues
At some point the term "champions" in Champions League has to mean something.
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Already does. It means the winners are "champions" of Europe.
comment by Wahl Might (U22137)
posted 1 minute ago
But Knee dude, Would you rather see Barcelona vs Lyon or Barcelona vs Chelsea for example?
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I'm looking at it from the perspective of having to watch 6 English sides in it, I'd rather watch Barca v Lyon than United v Arsenal in the CL if you get me.
Quality wise of course they are if you compare them to the teams in pot 4 in the group stages. But it would mean 2 teams drop out and that means some small nation is not represented in the CL at any point, that's not reflective of a "European" cup.
You could argue that there coudl be 6 Spanish or Italian or German sides in it.
You could argue that there coudl be 6 Spanish or Italian or German sides in it.
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You could but it wouldn't really be the same. I think it's clear that 5th and 6th in the PL does on quality deserve to be in the CL. I don't know if there's a fair way to make that happen but they deserve to be in that competition because they could be successful in the competition and at the very least would make the competition more interesting.
6th place deserves to be in the Champions League
6th place beat PSG and reached the Quarter finals of the Champions League this season. They proved they deserved to be there.
At some point the term "champions" in Champions League has to mean something.
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Already does. It means the winners are "champions" of Europe.
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And the possibility of the 6th best team in one league being given the moniker Champions of Europe doesn't sound a bit stupid to you? Given the term champions implies you gain entry by being a champion?
One competition I wouldn't mind seeing expanded is the Club World Championship to include the winners of Europa, Sudamericana, etc... would help the prestige level of those secondary competitions on all the continents.
Bring back the Cup winners Cup
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posted on 5/6/19
comment by Wahl Might (U22137)
posted 1 second ago
comment by BlueJ2 (U4630)
posted 1 minute ago
I think there should be fewer teams from each nation - not more. It was much better in the old days where one individual club would represent that nation in the competition. Now it’s all about money - the bigger clubs insist that they play in the CL every year, even if they finish 4th in their league (and include my team in that). It’s ridiculous. I’d much prefer to play the Champions of Bulgaria or Iceland or Slovakia, than have to play Arsenal again.
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... Why?
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FFS the Europa League is basically this and every English fan hates it!
posted on 5/6/19
comment by Wahl Might (U22137)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
Havent read the other comments... but 6th in PL one season are good enough to win the CL the next, so yes.
They may as well start with one competition, loads more teams but same number of games per team.
Split after the group stage into CL and EL.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's a really good idea actually
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd echo this in principle....it would certainly ensure the very best get into the latter stages of the best comp
but you'd probably get very little uptake for the Europa when it gets split, as it'll be full of pub sides in the main.
Then you'd still have to give the winner a CL berth next term.
You might even get the odd team throwing a match in order to get into the lesser comp come match 6 so they have a better chance of winning something..
posted on 5/6/19
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Might (U22137)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
Havent read the other comments... but 6th in PL one season are good enough to win the CL the next, so yes.
They may as well start with one competition, loads more teams but same number of games per team.
Split after the group stage into CL and EL.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's a really good idea actually
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd echo this in principle....it would certainly ensure the very best get into the latter stages of the best comp
but you'd probably get very little uptake for the Europa when it gets split, as it'll be full of pub sides in the main.
Then you'd still have to give the winner a CL berth next term.
You might even get the odd team throwing a match in order to get into the lesser comp come match 6 so they have a better chance of winning something..
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You can still do that currently though. That's how Atletico won it last year and how we won it the first time.
posted on 5/6/19
Grate idea.
posted on 5/6/19
"You can still do that currently though. That's how Atletico won it last year and how we won it the first time."
Lol so Atletico deliebretely got knocked out and LVG deliberately finished 5th out of some sort of master plan to win Europa
posted on 5/6/19
comment by Wahl Might (U22137)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Might (U22137)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
Havent read the other comments... but 6th in PL one season are good enough to win the CL the next, so yes.
They may as well start with one competition, loads more teams but same number of games per team.
Split after the group stage into CL and EL.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's a really good idea actually
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd echo this in principle....it would certainly ensure the very best get into the latter stages of the best comp
but you'd probably get very little uptake for the Europa when it gets split, as it'll be full of pub sides in the main.
Then you'd still have to give the winner a CL berth next term.
You might even get the odd team throwing a match in order to get into the lesser comp come match 6 so they have a better chance of winning something..
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You can still do that currently though. That's how Atletico won it last year and how we won it the first time.
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what...throw a match....we just weren't good enough in 13 for the CL
posted on 5/6/19
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Wahl Might (U22137)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Might (U22137)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
Havent read the other comments... but 6th in PL one season are good enough to win the CL the next, so yes.
They may as well start with one competition, loads more teams but same number of games per team.
Split after the group stage into CL and EL.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's a really good idea actually
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd echo this in principle....it would certainly ensure the very best get into the latter stages of the best comp
but you'd probably get very little uptake for the Europa when it gets split, as it'll be full of pub sides in the main.
Then you'd still have to give the winner a CL berth next term.
You might even get the odd team throwing a match in order to get into the lesser comp come match 6 so they have a better chance of winning something..
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You can still do that currently though. That's how Atletico won it last year and how we won it the first time.
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what...throw a match....we just weren't good enough in 13 for the CL
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Lack of investment after somehow winning the CL with an aging & scratch side
posted on 5/6/19
No they didn't throw the match, they dropped down though. That would still be possible.
Teams don't throw matches under the current system so why would they start throwing matches in the new system?
posted on 5/6/19
comment by Wahl Might (U22137)
posted 1 minute ago
No they didn't throw the match, they dropped down though. That would still be possible.
Teams don't throw matches under the current system so why would they start throwing matches in the new system?
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5 minutes ago you said they did!
posted on 5/6/19
comment by Wahl Might (U22137)
posted 5 seconds ago
No they didn't throw the match, they dropped down though. That would still be possible.
Teams don't throw matches under the current system so why would they start throwing matches in the new system?
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Because the new format of splitting would not nessesarily have any good sides in it from the start, & hence be potentially easier to win
I have never been a fan of teams dropping into the Europa from the CL.... a ridiculous situation really....even though we did it & benefitted in 13
posted on 5/6/19
Because the new format of splitting would not nessesarily have any good sides in it from the start, & hence be potentially easier to win
———
But DJ was saying that it should be split after the group stage into a EL and CL.
posted on 5/6/19
comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
Because the new format of splitting would not nessesarily have any good sides in it from the start, & hence be potentially easier to win
———
But DJ was saying that it should be split after the group stage into a EL and CL.
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yeah...with every team qualified for "europe" in one comp from the start...which should sort the wheat from the chaff
posted on 5/6/19
No. Competition's become too diluted as it is without doing that.
I know football's all about money and competitive edge but there has to be a line somewhere. At some point the term "champions" in Champions League has to mean something. It's bad enough as it is without the 6th best team in one country being allow entry.
posted on 5/6/19
Would be boring mate, we see these sides play each other twice (minimum) each season, don't want to be watching it again in the champions league
It's best when you play teams from other European nations.
posted on 5/6/19
But Knee dude, Would you rather see Barcelona vs Lyon or Barcelona vs Chelsea for example?
posted on 5/6/19
they should just scrap the whole lot, its getting ridiculous how many teams certain Countries get
Just have two leagues of 12 with relegation and Promotion and get rid of the CL altogether
The rest can fight it out for the Europa League, winners of Europa League get Promoted to the Top Leagues
posted on 5/6/19
At some point the term "champions" in Champions League has to mean something.
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Already does. It means the winners are "champions" of Europe.
posted on 5/6/19
comment by Wahl Might (U22137)
posted 1 minute ago
But Knee dude, Would you rather see Barcelona vs Lyon or Barcelona vs Chelsea for example?
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I'm looking at it from the perspective of having to watch 6 English sides in it, I'd rather watch Barca v Lyon than United v Arsenal in the CL if you get me.
Quality wise of course they are if you compare them to the teams in pot 4 in the group stages. But it would mean 2 teams drop out and that means some small nation is not represented in the CL at any point, that's not reflective of a "European" cup.
You could argue that there coudl be 6 Spanish or Italian or German sides in it.
posted on 5/6/19
You could argue that there coudl be 6 Spanish or Italian or German sides in it.
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You could but it wouldn't really be the same. I think it's clear that 5th and 6th in the PL does on quality deserve to be in the CL. I don't know if there's a fair way to make that happen but they deserve to be in that competition because they could be successful in the competition and at the very least would make the competition more interesting.
posted on 5/6/19
6th place deserves to be in the Champions League
posted on 5/6/19
6th place beat PSG and reached the Quarter finals of the Champions League this season. They proved they deserved to be there.
posted on 5/6/19
At some point the term "champions" in Champions League has to mean something.
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Already does. It means the winners are "champions" of Europe.
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And the possibility of the 6th best team in one league being given the moniker Champions of Europe doesn't sound a bit stupid to you? Given the term champions implies you gain entry by being a champion?
One competition I wouldn't mind seeing expanded is the Club World Championship to include the winners of Europa, Sudamericana, etc... would help the prestige level of those secondary competitions on all the continents.
posted on 5/6/19
they really dont
posted on 5/6/19
Bring back the Cup winners Cup
posted on 5/6/19
Also 100 <diva£
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