If they get Kemba or a handy PG, if Lebron stays fit they will go far. People already writing off the warriors though, talking about Klay and kds injury’s forgetting that if cousins comes back healthier next year they will still have Steph deaymond and cousins to get them atleast to the play offs then atleast Klay and maybe KD will be back. I think ima have a cheeky bet on the warriors.
People talking about Lakers giving away too much which is nonsense. There is no guarantee of Zo and Ingram becoming All Stars let alone Superstars. Hart is a role player and 2/3 of the first round picks will be deep in the draft.
But it's wins for both. Pelicans can hope for a future without guarantee and Lakers immediately improve as contenders.
They still have cap space for another free agent although if i were them i'd be tempted to get better role players around them. Either option will improve them.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 13 hours, 44 minutes ago
If they get Kemba or a handy PG, if Lebron stays fit they will go far. People already writing off the warriors though, talking about Klay and kds injury’s forgetting that if cousins comes back healthier next year they will still have Steph deaymond and cousins to get them atleast to the play offs then atleast Klay and maybe KD will be back. I think ima have a cheeky bet on the warriors.
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They would need to offer Boogie a contract though, he was on a 1 year min contract.
KD has a player option for a year he might take up, then hit free agency next year when healthy. By all accounts the warriors are going to max out klay.
If they do that Boogie would need to accept another 1 year min, and their bench was already so weak this season, and with Iggy getting on a little more i think the warriors will be more likely a 6 seed.
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 10 hours, 20 minutes ago
People talking about Lakers giving away too much which is nonsense. There is no guarantee of Zo and Ingram becoming All Stars let alone Superstars. Hart is a role player and 2/3 of the first round picks will be deep in the draft.
But it's wins for both. Pelicans can hope for a future without guarantee and Lakers immediately improve as contenders.
They still have cap space for another free agent although if i were them i'd be tempted to get better role players around them. Either option will improve them.
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They only have enough for another max if the Pels agree to do the deal on July 30th instead of July 6th, which the pels have no real incentive to do other than to help the Lakers, which i doubt.
If the deal gets done on the 6th Lakers have 28.77 mil in cap space, not enough for a max player. If it gets done on July 30th then the Lakers would be acting as a team over the cap and could use their 4th pick as cap space before trading it to the Pels, giving them 32.5 mil cap space, enough for a max contract guy.
Plus that also means AD would need to wave his trade clause, which would be 5 mil. Meaning the Lakers could only have 23.77 mil.
They’re probably gonna try and get 3 and D guys, JJ Reddick, Bogdonovic etc to fill out their squad.
I think that could be more fun to see in a way, if they get a third star then it’s kinda unfair like the warriors, if it’s AD and Lebron with some squad players then it seems like more of an achievement if they win it to me
Yeah, I think it was win-win for both parties. Although it must burn a little for LAL that they could have got him for free in 12 months and kept their roster
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posted 36 minutes ago
Yeah, I think it was win-win for both parties. Although it must burn a little for LAL that they could have got him for free in 12 months and kept their roster
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That’s what everyone said with Paul George too though, they shouldn’t trade for him when he was with the pacers because they could wait a year and get Lebron too and have all their young kids.
Trouble is the team that does make the trade has a whole year to convince the player to stay, and that’s what happened with PG. Can’t be sure if Boston had got AD he wouldn’t have decided to stay, sometimes you just have to pull the trigger.
Plus next off season Ingram will be needing to get paid, which would make the salary cap situation a little complicated at the Lakers.
Hey, which is why i said ' they could have'. No certainty of course.
Tbh, PG is a poorer player than AD IMO. AD is a top four player and a generational talent and with LBJ'S age, I understand the deal ( I would have done the same tbh).
However, it was still a high price. Hence, the 'burn a little'. AD really wanted LAL, his agent is Rich Paul. It is the worst kept secret in basketball.
Wonder what will happen with Celtics though. Kyrie is on his way out. Pelicans could have a very good team!
Yeah I know what you mean.
Celtics will be back in rebuilding mode, with Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown as the centre pieces. Although I’m not that keen on either personally, but the league seems to think Tatum is gonna be the next big thing.
Talk is the pels are gonna pursue Bradley Beal with the number 4 pick, apparently Lonzo will be included in a deal. Seems odd to me, I’d ship Jrue Holiday for that deal as they are both shooters, and Lonzo could facilitate.
Gonna be an interesting season
I think Celtics are a mess personally. There is no point in having all these assets and not using them. Danny Ainge reminds me a little of Arsene Wenger in his later years, and watched as the upstarts have passed Arsenal by and Arsenal has never recovered and will probably not recover in the next half decade.
With news Holford is gone too and the Eastern teams better, Celtics have to pull their fingers out or accept mediocrity for the next half a decade.
Funny thing is less than a year ago, Celtics were the future of the NBA, they were coming off ECF finals with rookies etc. Lakers were a mess etc.
I know, Ainge facked up.
Gave a massive contract to an average Hayward who had only had one good season, should have put together a package for Paul George and didn’t, horded picks but never used them and now has to essentially start again right when the warriors have fallen off a cliff and the NBA is wide open for the first time in forever.
Was it really a high price though?
BI, Hart and Zo would all be less rated if not for playing at Lakers and being exposed more. It's all potential and no genuine talent today.
Hart is replaceable. You never know how BI will turn out and when. Zo is a good facilitator but you can't keep everyone and trade Davis for a packet of skittles.
2/3 of the picks as well will be later round since Lakers likely make play-offs now. AD is only 26 as well. This is a good deal for both sides as they've got different goals.
I actually think BI and Lonzo would be rated higher if playing elsewhere, particularly Ingram. Jayson Tatum is rated ridiculously high in the league, imo he isn’t better than Ingram.
Hart is just a role player and will add depth to NOLA.
News today is the Lakers forgot about maximising cap space in the AD trade, so never thought about negotiating to push the deal to the 30th.
Pelinka forgot about cap space when negotiating a trade
How facking inept, he should be sacked for that.
Had his old agent cap on - "get the deal over the line. What happens after for the franchise isn't my problem."
Yep pretty much. It’s a farce he is the GM for the Lakers.
Especially when David Griffin, Pat Riley and Jerry West were all either available or said they would have been very tempted IF the Lakers had picked up the phone.
Lakers have to fill it out with role players now, which isn’t a bad thing imo. Get Brook Lopez, Patrick Beverly and JJ Reddick with the remaining cap space. Then sign a couple with the MLE and get some ring chasers on the vet min deals and they should have a team strong enough to make it to the WCF.
Especially with Kuz as the third scoring option, that kid is a quality scorer imo. Expecting a real breakout season this year for him.
I think they're going full Hollywood and after that third superstar preferably in Kawhi.
Rob's there because of his relationship with Kobe and Jeanie Bus who has shown to be a terrible owner since taking over. She is far too sentimental with those around her.
Saying that, well done to Rob. If they end up winning a chip or two then he will be sitting their like it's the Iron Throne of the NBA.
They just can’t afford the third star mate. Not unless AD waives his 4 mil trade kicker (which he’s not going to do apparently) and the pelicans agree to push the deal back to the 30th (which they’re not going to do).
Means they only have 23 mil in cap space, not enough for a max player.
Kawhi will either go to the clippers or stay in Toronto, i think he’s going to stay with the raptors.
Yeah, I think BI and Ball are seriously talented. The problem with Lonzo is kid can't shoot to save his life, his FTs are abysmal and I doubt it can ever really be fixed.
Kid has all the handles, can facilitate etc but get to paint and doesn't know how to finish; is scared of the being fouled as he has to go to the line. A point guard in today's NBA has to be a scoring option.
Also, at 6'7? Kids has to be more aggressive or he will be out of the league soon enough.
JJ Reddick is great but I won't go for him as he will be too expensive IMO and will be a liability defensively. And as Kuzma hates defending and Born only defends these days in the playoffs, Lakers have to be smarter.
I disagree with Tiddles in that I believe Jayson Taytum is a star, granted he is overrated and the he is not that much better than BI but Taytum has one thing BI doesn't have : dog.
BI doesn't seem to have that dog in him! I hope I am wrong.
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comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
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Holy fk, Nets getting Durant, Irving & DeAndre Jordan
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DJ aint done much in recent years. Next year is gonna be great though. Funny how KD seems of have got a pass from most because people hate on lebron. Guy has had an easier ride of it than LBJ, and has not had to face a tough team, while playing on the best, for his chips.
Now he's stacking the deck in brooklyn
You don't win a championship with just one star. Even Kawhi and Raptors needed some fortune with injuries to KD and then Klay.
The LBJ hate is so biased and without context. Next season should be much more competitive.
Warriors signed DLo and I think they'll resign Boogie. Jazz have improved with Conley and Bogdanovic.
Lakers might add Kawhi to their roster.
Think Celtics will be better off with Kemba. Al Horford a loss though but they can cover that.
Steph
DLo
Klay
Draymond
Boogie
Still good enough to win a championship imo. Although I think Iggy is going, so bogat, livingston, cook the only half decent back ups.
They reckon if no Kawhi then it could be
Beverly
Brogdan
Kuzma
LBJ
AD
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posted on 16/6/19
If they get Kemba or a handy PG, if Lebron stays fit they will go far. People already writing off the warriors though, talking about Klay and kds injury’s forgetting that if cousins comes back healthier next year they will still have Steph deaymond and cousins to get them atleast to the play offs then atleast Klay and maybe KD will be back. I think ima have a cheeky bet on the warriors.
posted on 16/6/19
People talking about Lakers giving away too much which is nonsense. There is no guarantee of Zo and Ingram becoming All Stars let alone Superstars. Hart is a role player and 2/3 of the first round picks will be deep in the draft.
But it's wins for both. Pelicans can hope for a future without guarantee and Lakers immediately improve as contenders.
They still have cap space for another free agent although if i were them i'd be tempted to get better role players around them. Either option will improve them.
posted on 16/6/19
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 13 hours, 44 minutes ago
If they get Kemba or a handy PG, if Lebron stays fit they will go far. People already writing off the warriors though, talking about Klay and kds injury’s forgetting that if cousins comes back healthier next year they will still have Steph deaymond and cousins to get them atleast to the play offs then atleast Klay and maybe KD will be back. I think ima have a cheeky bet on the warriors.
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They would need to offer Boogie a contract though, he was on a 1 year min contract.
KD has a player option for a year he might take up, then hit free agency next year when healthy. By all accounts the warriors are going to max out klay.
If they do that Boogie would need to accept another 1 year min, and their bench was already so weak this season, and with Iggy getting on a little more i think the warriors will be more likely a 6 seed.
posted on 16/6/19
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 10 hours, 20 minutes ago
People talking about Lakers giving away too much which is nonsense. There is no guarantee of Zo and Ingram becoming All Stars let alone Superstars. Hart is a role player and 2/3 of the first round picks will be deep in the draft.
But it's wins for both. Pelicans can hope for a future without guarantee and Lakers immediately improve as contenders.
They still have cap space for another free agent although if i were them i'd be tempted to get better role players around them. Either option will improve them.
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They only have enough for another max if the Pels agree to do the deal on July 30th instead of July 6th, which the pels have no real incentive to do other than to help the Lakers, which i doubt.
If the deal gets done on the 6th Lakers have 28.77 mil in cap space, not enough for a max player. If it gets done on July 30th then the Lakers would be acting as a team over the cap and could use their 4th pick as cap space before trading it to the Pels, giving them 32.5 mil cap space, enough for a max contract guy.
Plus that also means AD would need to wave his trade clause, which would be 5 mil. Meaning the Lakers could only have 23.77 mil.
They’re probably gonna try and get 3 and D guys, JJ Reddick, Bogdonovic etc to fill out their squad.
I think that could be more fun to see in a way, if they get a third star then it’s kinda unfair like the warriors, if it’s AD and Lebron with some squad players then it seems like more of an achievement if they win it to me
posted on 17/6/19
Yeah, I think it was win-win for both parties. Although it must burn a little for LAL that they could have got him for free in 12 months and kept their roster
posted on 17/6/19
comment by The_Red_Cognoscente (U9741)
posted 36 minutes ago
Yeah, I think it was win-win for both parties. Although it must burn a little for LAL that they could have got him for free in 12 months and kept their roster
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That’s what everyone said with Paul George too though, they shouldn’t trade for him when he was with the pacers because they could wait a year and get Lebron too and have all their young kids.
Trouble is the team that does make the trade has a whole year to convince the player to stay, and that’s what happened with PG. Can’t be sure if Boston had got AD he wouldn’t have decided to stay, sometimes you just have to pull the trigger.
Plus next off season Ingram will be needing to get paid, which would make the salary cap situation a little complicated at the Lakers.
posted on 17/6/19
Hey, which is why i said ' they could have'. No certainty of course.
Tbh, PG is a poorer player than AD IMO. AD is a top four player and a generational talent and with LBJ'S age, I understand the deal ( I would have done the same tbh).
However, it was still a high price. Hence, the 'burn a little'. AD really wanted LAL, his agent is Rich Paul. It is the worst kept secret in basketball.
Wonder what will happen with Celtics though. Kyrie is on his way out. Pelicans could have a very good team!
posted on 17/6/19
Yeah I know what you mean.
Celtics will be back in rebuilding mode, with Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown as the centre pieces. Although I’m not that keen on either personally, but the league seems to think Tatum is gonna be the next big thing.
Talk is the pels are gonna pursue Bradley Beal with the number 4 pick, apparently Lonzo will be included in a deal. Seems odd to me, I’d ship Jrue Holiday for that deal as they are both shooters, and Lonzo could facilitate.
Gonna be an interesting season
posted on 19/6/19
I think Celtics are a mess personally. There is no point in having all these assets and not using them. Danny Ainge reminds me a little of Arsene Wenger in his later years, and watched as the upstarts have passed Arsenal by and Arsenal has never recovered and will probably not recover in the next half decade.
With news Holford is gone too and the Eastern teams better, Celtics have to pull their fingers out or accept mediocrity for the next half a decade.
Funny thing is less than a year ago, Celtics were the future of the NBA, they were coming off ECF finals with rookies etc. Lakers were a mess etc.
posted on 19/6/19
I know, Ainge facked up.
Gave a massive contract to an average Hayward who had only had one good season, should have put together a package for Paul George and didn’t, horded picks but never used them and now has to essentially start again right when the warriors have fallen off a cliff and the NBA is wide open for the first time in forever.
posted on 20/6/19
Was it really a high price though?
BI, Hart and Zo would all be less rated if not for playing at Lakers and being exposed more. It's all potential and no genuine talent today.
Hart is replaceable. You never know how BI will turn out and when. Zo is a good facilitator but you can't keep everyone and trade Davis for a packet of skittles.
2/3 of the picks as well will be later round since Lakers likely make play-offs now. AD is only 26 as well. This is a good deal for both sides as they've got different goals.
posted on 20/6/19
I actually think BI and Lonzo would be rated higher if playing elsewhere, particularly Ingram. Jayson Tatum is rated ridiculously high in the league, imo he isn’t better than Ingram.
Hart is just a role player and will add depth to NOLA.
News today is the Lakers forgot about maximising cap space in the AD trade, so never thought about negotiating to push the deal to the 30th.
Pelinka forgot about cap space when negotiating a trade
How facking inept, he should be sacked for that.
posted on 20/6/19
Had his old agent cap on - "get the deal over the line. What happens after for the franchise isn't my problem."
posted on 20/6/19
Yep pretty much. It’s a farce he is the GM for the Lakers.
Especially when David Griffin, Pat Riley and Jerry West were all either available or said they would have been very tempted IF the Lakers had picked up the phone.
Lakers have to fill it out with role players now, which isn’t a bad thing imo. Get Brook Lopez, Patrick Beverly and JJ Reddick with the remaining cap space. Then sign a couple with the MLE and get some ring chasers on the vet min deals and they should have a team strong enough to make it to the WCF.
Especially with Kuz as the third scoring option, that kid is a quality scorer imo. Expecting a real breakout season this year for him.
posted on 20/6/19
I think they're going full Hollywood and after that third superstar preferably in Kawhi.
Rob's there because of his relationship with Kobe and Jeanie Bus who has shown to be a terrible owner since taking over. She is far too sentimental with those around her.
Saying that, well done to Rob. If they end up winning a chip or two then he will be sitting their like it's the Iron Throne of the NBA.
posted on 20/6/19
They just can’t afford the third star mate. Not unless AD waives his 4 mil trade kicker (which he’s not going to do apparently) and the pelicans agree to push the deal back to the 30th (which they’re not going to do).
Means they only have 23 mil in cap space, not enough for a max player.
Kawhi will either go to the clippers or stay in Toronto, i think he’s going to stay with the raptors.
posted on 20/6/19
Yeah, I think BI and Ball are seriously talented. The problem with Lonzo is kid can't shoot to save his life, his FTs are abysmal and I doubt it can ever really be fixed.
Kid has all the handles, can facilitate etc but get to paint and doesn't know how to finish; is scared of the being fouled as he has to go to the line. A point guard in today's NBA has to be a scoring option.
Also, at 6'7? Kids has to be more aggressive or he will be out of the league soon enough.
JJ Reddick is great but I won't go for him as he will be too expensive IMO and will be a liability defensively. And as Kuzma hates defending and Born only defends these days in the playoffs, Lakers have to be smarter.
posted on 20/6/19
I disagree with Tiddles in that I believe Jayson Taytum is a star, granted he is overrated and the he is not that much better than BI but Taytum has one thing BI doesn't have : dog.
BI doesn't seem to have that dog in him! I hope I am wrong.
posted on 30/6/19
Holy fk, Nets getting Durant, Irving & DeAndre Jordan
posted on 1/7/19
comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 11 hours, 52 minutes ago
Holy fk, Nets getting Durant, Irving & DeAndre Jordan
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posted on 1/7/19
comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 11 hours, 54 minutes ago
Holy fk, Nets getting Durant, Irving & DeAndre Jordan
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DJ aint done much in recent years. Next year is gonna be great though. Funny how KD seems of have got a pass from most because people hate on lebron. Guy has had an easier ride of it than LBJ, and has not had to face a tough team, while playing on the best, for his chips.
Now he's stacking the deck in brooklyn
posted on 1/7/19
You don't win a championship with just one star. Even Kawhi and Raptors needed some fortune with injuries to KD and then Klay.
The LBJ hate is so biased and without context. Next season should be much more competitive.
Warriors signed DLo and I think they'll resign Boogie. Jazz have improved with Conley and Bogdanovic.
Lakers might add Kawhi to their roster.
Think Celtics will be better off with Kemba. Al Horford a loss though but they can cover that.
posted on 1/7/19
Steph
DLo
Klay
Draymond
Boogie
Still good enough to win a championship imo. Although I think Iggy is going, so bogat, livingston, cook the only half decent back ups.
posted on 1/7/19
They reckon if no Kawhi then it could be
Beverly
Brogdan
Kuzma
LBJ
AD
posted on 1/7/19
Pat Bev is re-signing for Clippers
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