comment by Tu Meke Mesut (U3732)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke Mesut(U3732)
posted 19 minutes ago
Strange attempt at a wum this. You've gone through some incredible mental gymnastics with the title of your article.
Yes, we're pretty crap right now. I'd actually compare our current situation to the Liverpool teams under Kenny dalglish and Roy Hodgson.
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You're not that bad.
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Yes, and neither were as bad as "early 2000's spurs".
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We were a mid-table outfit back then. Liverpool were pretty much a mid-table outfit under Hodgson and Dalglish.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke Mesut(U3732)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke Mesut(U3732)
posted 19 minutes ago
Strange attempt at a wum this. You've gone through some incredible mental gymnastics with the title of your article.
Yes, we're pretty crap right now. I'd actually compare our current situation to the Liverpool teams under Kenny dalglish and Roy Hodgson.
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You're not that bad.
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Yes, and neither were as bad as "early 2000's spurs".
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We were a mid-table outfit back then. Liverpool were pretty much a mid-table outfit under Hodgson and Dalglish.
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we were in the relegation zone under woy
I'm pretty sure AVB's comments were in the context of that season's top 4 race and nothing to do with some long-term decline of the club.
As for what "happened" to us, we're simply skint - courtesy of Kroenke being rather illiquid, debt payments that need urgent refinancing, the horrid management of Gazidis and wastefulness of Wenger.
I'm not sure how Spurs have left us behind either. After their own mediocrity, they were very, very fortunate to profit from what is the worst late-season collapse in memory from us, in the last 2 months of the season to seal top 4.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke Mesut(U3732)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke Mesut(U3732)
posted 19 minutes ago
Strange attempt at a wum this. You've gone through some incredible mental gymnastics with the title of your article.
Yes, we're pretty crap right now. I'd actually compare our current situation to the Liverpool teams under Kenny dalglish and Roy Hodgson.
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You're not that bad.
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Yes, and neither were as bad as "early 2000's spurs".
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We were a mid-table outfit back then. Liverpool were pretty much a mid-table outfit under Hodgson and Dalglish.
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Liverpool finished 6th then 8th. Pretty sure you lots were finishing below 10th regularly in the early 2000's.
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Wenger Till I Die (U7482)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm not sure how Spurs have left us behind either. After their own mediocrity, they were very, very fortunate to profit from what is the worst late-season collapse in memory from us, in the last 2 months of the season to seal top 4.
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Spurs didnt exactly win every game themselves did they?
However they are leaving Arsenal in their dust in all areas of the game.
Don't entertain him sheriff.
You'll beat him in the argument then he'll run off to admin to get us banned like he always does. Probably filter us too.
comment by Tu Meke Mesut (U3732)
posted 18 minutes ago
Don't entertain him sheriff.
You'll beat him in the argument then he'll run off to admin to get us banned like he always does. Probably filter us too.
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If you can't see it thats upto you, no doubt you'll for a less than cogent argument as to how Spurs aren't leave g Arsenal behind in all areas.
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Wenger Till I Die (U7482)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm not sure how Spurs have left us behind either. After their own mediocrity, they were very, very fortunate to profit from what is the worst late-season collapse in memory from us, in the last 2 months of the season to seal top 4.
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Spurs didnt exactly win every game themselves did they?
However they are leaving Arsenal in their dust in all areas of the game.
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Please explain how they are 'leaving us in the dust in all areas'?
However they are leaving Arsenal in their dust in all areas of the game.
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Would you like to point out a few of these areas?
Deadinthehead
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Fake news then.?
Careful groovy, he'll get you banned
Facking hell, like a pack of rabid hounds.. sure I'll say.
Stadium, never mind just The Emirates, Spurs stadium is the best football stadium in the country.
Team, spurs are ahead of Arsenals team and will be further ahead after the summer. - note they didn't even strengthen last season.
Fans - actually the spurs fans are behind their team and club and are quite realistic, gooners have been fighting among themselves for years.
Manager - No contest, Poch wipes the floor with Emery. A midtable Arsenal wanted Emery, while Poch is coveted by the top clubs in the world.
Feel free to dispute and discuss.
Also, Spurs being in the top club competition (the CL) didnt need to be mentioned, however Spurs have definitely taken Arsenals place there.
Feeling the pain yet gooners?
Stadium, never mind just The Emirates, Spurs stadium is the best football stadium in the country.
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Meaning it is better than EVERYONES, not just the Emirates
Team, spurs are ahead of Arsenals team and will be further ahead after the summer. - note they didn't even strengthen last season.
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Leaving us in the dust by a whopping 2 points
Fans - actually the spurs fans are behind their team and club and are quite realistic, gooners have been fighting among themselves for years.
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Please talk facts, not just your invalid opinion.
Manager - No contest, Poch wipes the floor with Emery. A midtable Arsenal wanted Emery, while Poch is coveted by the top clubs in the world.
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Who's won what in their careers?
Feel free to dispute and discuss.
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
Stadium, never mind just The Emirates, Spurs stadium is the best football stadium in the country.
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Meaning it is better than EVERYONES, not just the Emirates
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So you agree its better than the Emirates
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Team, spurs are ahead of Arsenals team and will be further ahead after the summer. - note they didn't even strengthen last season.
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Leaving us in the dust by a whopping 2 points
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They didn't spend any money and focused their last 6 weeks on the CL, as as you point out, still ahead of arsenal
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Fans - actually the spurs fans are behind their team and club and are quite realistic, gooners have been fighting among themselves for years.
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Please talk facts, not just your invalid opinion.
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Completely factual, unless you dispute Wenger in/out brigades don't exist
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Manager - No contest, Poch wipes the floor with Emery. A midtable Arsenal wanted Emery, while Poch is coveted by the top clubs in the world.
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Who's won what in their careers?
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Poch is a far better manager than Emery, if you truly dispute this then you are seriously deluded.
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Nothing in favour of Arsenal at all. No question that Arsenal have been poorly run, won't dispute that at all. All its led to is Spurs moving ahead of you.
Sustained CL positioning is indicative of that.
Feel free to dispute / discuss
This is all short termism.
Arsenal fans are a bit plasticky at this point. bit ranty on TV etc. The man they appointed and the technical directors need 3 years, not 1. Klopp got his 3 years. He lots in europa final and finished 8th in his first 6 months.
Give it time.
As for spurs: They've done well but things need to change there... or things WILL change by virtue of them being forced by players and manager leaving. I'm watching them with interest.
As for chelsea: Transfer ban... its a big deal. They are shy of a forward imo. That could really hurt them. Decent 11, very decent but that man up front could mean they miss out.
As for Utd: The pressure will be immense next year. Again it should not be if fans and management are rational. OGS has gotten 6 months. not much changed in that time in league position did it?
If he's sacked then they could spiral. They have the time now to bring on some young players in europa and have 2 or 3 that will benefit. they need to shed a lot of dead wood and bad mistakes.... and then we will see.
Right now any of the above can beat a city or liverpool... at home at least and on their day are very good teams.. but they are not 85 point plus teams. they've all work to do but it is only 24th june.
You'd class Man Utd as that Mito? A very good team?
Wouldn’t surprise me to see Arsenal finish in the top 4 next season. They are a lot closer to the other top sides than most people think. Had Auba not bottled his pen at Wembley they would have coasted top 4.
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 20 hours, 39 minutes ago
You'd class Man Utd as that Mito? A very good team?
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TBH mate... if they had 11 men fully fit and we bothered (aka de gea, pogba, martial) they MIGHT sneak into that MIGHT.
As of now though they are not that cos of obvious reasons. I felt OGS lucked into a team at the outset and then seemed to forget about it and started playing lukaku and etc etc.
De Gea
Wan Bissaka ? Lindeloff Shaw
Mctominay Matic
Pogba
lingard Rashford Martial
they've lost herrera who did a job. they've retain mata who is real slow and won't press. they've 3 or 4 who can't be bothered...
so no they are not a very good side at the moment. But on their day last season they might have taken points off city, they did off us.
comment by Neo- European Champions (U9135)
posted 19 hours, 14 minutes ago
Wouldn’t surprise me to see Arsenal finish in the top 4 next season. They are a lot closer to the other top sides than most people think. Had Auba not bottled his pen at Wembley they would have coasted top 4.
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I dunno. I think theres a chance for all 4 teams and we are all assuming LFC and city will take 80-85 points again.
Arsenals first priority is defence and away games. Same as it was last year. they have the goals in them. Lots of work to do to improve.
Cheslea on the other hand seem hamstrung by transfer ban so will rely on giroud and a couple rejects to score goals. That's going to be absolutely key i feel. They have a big job on their hands imo.
Spurs should be consistent. They now have had a taste of real pain and how they react and how they improve their squad is key.
Utd see above IMO. again lots of work to do to improve.
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posted on 24/6/19
comment by Tu Meke Mesut (U3732)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke Mesut(U3732)
posted 19 minutes ago
Strange attempt at a wum this. You've gone through some incredible mental gymnastics with the title of your article.
Yes, we're pretty crap right now. I'd actually compare our current situation to the Liverpool teams under Kenny dalglish and Roy Hodgson.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're not that bad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, and neither were as bad as "early 2000's spurs".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We were a mid-table outfit back then. Liverpool were pretty much a mid-table outfit under Hodgson and Dalglish.
posted on 24/6/19
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke Mesut(U3732)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke Mesut(U3732)
posted 19 minutes ago
Strange attempt at a wum this. You've gone through some incredible mental gymnastics with the title of your article.
Yes, we're pretty crap right now. I'd actually compare our current situation to the Liverpool teams under Kenny dalglish and Roy Hodgson.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're not that bad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, and neither were as bad as "early 2000's spurs".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We were a mid-table outfit back then. Liverpool were pretty much a mid-table outfit under Hodgson and Dalglish.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
we were in the relegation zone under woy
posted on 24/6/19
I'm pretty sure AVB's comments were in the context of that season's top 4 race and nothing to do with some long-term decline of the club.
As for what "happened" to us, we're simply skint - courtesy of Kroenke being rather illiquid, debt payments that need urgent refinancing, the horrid management of Gazidis and wastefulness of Wenger.
posted on 24/6/19
I'm not sure how Spurs have left us behind either. After their own mediocrity, they were very, very fortunate to profit from what is the worst late-season collapse in memory from us, in the last 2 months of the season to seal top 4.
posted on 24/6/19
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke Mesut(U3732)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke Mesut(U3732)
posted 19 minutes ago
Strange attempt at a wum this. You've gone through some incredible mental gymnastics with the title of your article.
Yes, we're pretty crap right now. I'd actually compare our current situation to the Liverpool teams under Kenny dalglish and Roy Hodgson.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're not that bad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, and neither were as bad as "early 2000's spurs".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We were a mid-table outfit back then. Liverpool were pretty much a mid-table outfit under Hodgson and Dalglish.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Liverpool finished 6th then 8th. Pretty sure you lots were finishing below 10th regularly in the early 2000's.
posted on 24/6/19
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Wenger Till I Die (U7482)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm not sure how Spurs have left us behind either. After their own mediocrity, they were very, very fortunate to profit from what is the worst late-season collapse in memory from us, in the last 2 months of the season to seal top 4.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Spurs didnt exactly win every game themselves did they?
However they are leaving Arsenal in their dust in all areas of the game.
posted on 24/6/19
Don't entertain him sheriff.
You'll beat him in the argument then he'll run off to admin to get us banned like he always does. Probably filter us too.
posted on 24/6/19
comment by Tu Meke Mesut (U3732)
posted 18 minutes ago
Don't entertain him sheriff.
You'll beat him in the argument then he'll run off to admin to get us banned like he always does. Probably filter us too.
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If you can't see it thats upto you, no doubt you'll for a less than cogent argument as to how Spurs aren't leave g Arsenal behind in all areas.
posted on 24/6/19
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Wenger Till I Die (U7482)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm not sure how Spurs have left us behind either. After their own mediocrity, they were very, very fortunate to profit from what is the worst late-season collapse in memory from us, in the last 2 months of the season to seal top 4.
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Spurs didnt exactly win every game themselves did they?
However they are leaving Arsenal in their dust in all areas of the game.
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Please explain how they are 'leaving us in the dust in all areas'?
posted on 24/6/19
However they are leaving Arsenal in their dust in all areas of the game.
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Would you like to point out a few of these areas?
posted on 24/6/19
Deadinthehead
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Fake news then.?
posted on 24/6/19
Careful groovy, he'll get you banned
posted on 24/6/19
Facking hell, like a pack of rabid hounds.. sure I'll say.
Stadium, never mind just The Emirates, Spurs stadium is the best football stadium in the country.
Team, spurs are ahead of Arsenals team and will be further ahead after the summer. - note they didn't even strengthen last season.
Fans - actually the spurs fans are behind their team and club and are quite realistic, gooners have been fighting among themselves for years.
Manager - No contest, Poch wipes the floor with Emery. A midtable Arsenal wanted Emery, while Poch is coveted by the top clubs in the world.
Feel free to dispute and discuss.
posted on 24/6/19
Also, Spurs being in the top club competition (the CL) didnt need to be mentioned, however Spurs have definitely taken Arsenals place there.
Feeling the pain yet gooners?
posted on 24/6/19
Stadium, never mind just The Emirates, Spurs stadium is the best football stadium in the country.
-----------------------
Meaning it is better than EVERYONES, not just the Emirates
Team, spurs are ahead of Arsenals team and will be further ahead after the summer. - note they didn't even strengthen last season.
------------------------------------------------------------------
Leaving us in the dust by a whopping 2 points
Fans - actually the spurs fans are behind their team and club and are quite realistic, gooners have been fighting among themselves for years.
--------------------------------------------------
Please talk facts, not just your invalid opinion.
Manager - No contest, Poch wipes the floor with Emery. A midtable Arsenal wanted Emery, while Poch is coveted by the top clubs in the world.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Who's won what in their careers?
Feel free to dispute and discuss.
posted on 24/6/19
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
Stadium, never mind just The Emirates, Spurs stadium is the best football stadium in the country.
-----------------------
Meaning it is better than EVERYONES, not just the Emirates
----------------
So you agree its better than the Emirates
--------------
Team, spurs are ahead of Arsenals team and will be further ahead after the summer. - note they didn't even strengthen last season.
------------------------------------------------------------------
Leaving us in the dust by a whopping 2 points
-------------------------------
They didn't spend any money and focused their last 6 weeks on the CL, as as you point out, still ahead of arsenal
--------------------
Fans - actually the spurs fans are behind their team and club and are quite realistic, gooners have been fighting among themselves for years.
--------------------------------------------------
Please talk facts, not just your invalid opinion.
-------------------
Completely factual, unless you dispute Wenger in/out brigades don't exist
------------------------
Manager - No contest, Poch wipes the floor with Emery. A midtable Arsenal wanted Emery, while Poch is coveted by the top clubs in the world.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Who's won what in their careers?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Poch is a far better manager than Emery, if you truly dispute this then you are seriously deluded.
-------------------------
Nothing in favour of Arsenal at all. No question that Arsenal have been poorly run, won't dispute that at all. All its led to is Spurs moving ahead of you.
Sustained CL positioning is indicative of that.
Feel free to dispute / discuss
posted on 24/6/19
This is all short termism.
Arsenal fans are a bit plasticky at this point. bit ranty on TV etc. The man they appointed and the technical directors need 3 years, not 1. Klopp got his 3 years. He lots in europa final and finished 8th in his first 6 months.
Give it time.
As for spurs: They've done well but things need to change there... or things WILL change by virtue of them being forced by players and manager leaving. I'm watching them with interest.
As for chelsea: Transfer ban... its a big deal. They are shy of a forward imo. That could really hurt them. Decent 11, very decent but that man up front could mean they miss out.
As for Utd: The pressure will be immense next year. Again it should not be if fans and management are rational. OGS has gotten 6 months. not much changed in that time in league position did it?
If he's sacked then they could spiral. They have the time now to bring on some young players in europa and have 2 or 3 that will benefit. they need to shed a lot of dead wood and bad mistakes.... and then we will see.
Right now any of the above can beat a city or liverpool... at home at least and on their day are very good teams.. but they are not 85 point plus teams. they've all work to do but it is only 24th june.
posted on 24/6/19
You'd class Man Utd as that Mito? A very good team?
posted on 24/6/19
Wouldn’t surprise me to see Arsenal finish in the top 4 next season. They are a lot closer to the other top sides than most people think. Had Auba not bottled his pen at Wembley they would have coasted top 4.
posted on 25/6/19
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 20 hours, 39 minutes ago
You'd class Man Utd as that Mito? A very good team?
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TBH mate... if they had 11 men fully fit and we bothered (aka de gea, pogba, martial) they MIGHT sneak into that MIGHT.
As of now though they are not that cos of obvious reasons. I felt OGS lucked into a team at the outset and then seemed to forget about it and started playing lukaku and etc etc.
De Gea
Wan Bissaka ? Lindeloff Shaw
Mctominay Matic
Pogba
lingard Rashford Martial
they've lost herrera who did a job. they've retain mata who is real slow and won't press. they've 3 or 4 who can't be bothered...
so no they are not a very good side at the moment. But on their day last season they might have taken points off city, they did off us.
posted on 25/6/19
comment by Neo- European Champions (U9135)
posted 19 hours, 14 minutes ago
Wouldn’t surprise me to see Arsenal finish in the top 4 next season. They are a lot closer to the other top sides than most people think. Had Auba not bottled his pen at Wembley they would have coasted top 4.
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I dunno. I think theres a chance for all 4 teams and we are all assuming LFC and city will take 80-85 points again.
Arsenals first priority is defence and away games. Same as it was last year. they have the goals in them. Lots of work to do to improve.
Cheslea on the other hand seem hamstrung by transfer ban so will rely on giroud and a couple rejects to score goals. That's going to be absolutely key i feel. They have a big job on their hands imo.
Spurs should be consistent. They now have had a taste of real pain and how they react and how they improve their squad is key.
Utd see above IMO. again lots of work to do to improve.
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