He’s been here three years
Now all of a sudden, we start hearing rumours
Think about it, and think why these rumours are getting spread
My guess is he was out the door the minute he disobeyed MB during the Villa debacle.
The only surprise is how long it's taken.
He's had a strong character throughout his time with us. Rumours aren't recent there's been other stuff before. He's shown petulance before, quite openly.
If we want promotion we need players of his ability on the pitch. Sometimes you have to work with characters for the greater good.
6 of one, half a dozen of another. Always the same, club will try to defend its position and the player will try to come out of it head held high.
This has been driven by Bielsa and I hope that Bielsa et al have a plan B catering for life after PJ. We weren't blessed in the defensive department last term and there's no doubt that it cost us too.
We need two more centre halves, one at least in the same bracket as Pontus. We need another keeper, a good experienced holding midfielder and at least one proven striker, possibly two if Roofe walks....
I'm not sure we can repeat last season's exploits so I feel play-offs is the best we can hope for if we can do the above.
Of course....., quality signings maketh the difference and astute moves in the transfer market could make us the team to beat.
players are all giving him much more love on social media than for example saiz got when he left
comment by Stevie Dee (U10061)
posted 2 minutes ago
6 of one, half a dozen of another. Always the same, club will try to defend its position and the player will try to come out of it head held high.
This has been driven by Bielsa and I hope that Bielsa et al have a plan B catering for life after PJ. We weren't blessed in the defensive department last term and there's no doubt that it cost us too.
We need two more centre halves, one at least in the same bracket as Pontus. We need another keeper, a good experienced holding midfielder and at least one proven striker, possibly two if Roofe walks....
I'm not sure we can repeat last season's exploits so I feel play-offs is the best we can hope for if we can do the above.
Of course....., quality signings maketh the difference and astute moves in the transfer market could make us the team to beat.
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Agreed Stevie, however recent experience suggests we never replace like with like. It is always someone with "potential" or who has failed elsewhere and has a "point to prove" or has a long history of injuries but is over that now and ready to push on....
I sincerely hope we do not but if we lose Philips and Roofe as well I and I suspect a lot of others will find it hard to be upbeat about the season coming
Didnt Monk have an issue with him?
Latest from him:
Jansson on Brentford: ““My ambition is to play in the Premier League but I didn’t want to sit & wait for the right club in the PL to make an offer later in the summer and let this chance [to join Brentford] pass me by. I felt early on Brentford was right for me.” #lufc
comment by 🎤Mike drop🎤 (U15513)
posted 20 seconds ago
Didnt Monk have an issue with him?
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Yes, he refused to use his agent
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 35 seconds ago
Latest from him:
Jansson on Brentford: ““My ambition is to play in the Premier League but I didn’t want to sit & wait for the right club in the PL to make an offer later in the summer and let this chance [to join Brentford] pass me by. I felt early on Brentford was right for me.” #lufc
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He's saying Brentford won't be in the Premier League.....
comment by Stevie Dee (U10061)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 35 seconds ago
Latest from him:
Jansson on Brentford: ““My ambition is to play in the Premier League but I didn’t want to sit & wait for the right club in the PL to make an offer later in the summer and let this chance [to join Brentford] pass me by. I felt early on Brentford was right for me.” #lufc
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He's saying Brentford won't be in the Premier League.....
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He's also saying no Prem team came in for him really or he would have gone.
What;s "the right club in the PL" if you are ambitious and want to play there?
comment by LIW Radchancer (U8453)
posted 58 minutes ago
He’s been here three years
Now all of a sudden, we start hearing rumours
Think about it, and think why these rumours are getting spread
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That's simply not true though is it, rumours have been around for long time that he's a bit selfish and he's had rows in training before.
Shouldn't matter as he does it on the pitch and I'm gutted he's gone, but these aren't new revelations
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Stevie Dee (U10061)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 35 seconds ago
Latest from him:
Jansson on Brentford: ““My ambition is to play in the Premier League but I didn’t want to sit & wait for the right club in the PL to make an offer later in the summer and let this chance [to join Brentford] pass me by. I felt early on Brentford was right for me.” #lufc
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He's saying Brentford won't be in the Premier League.....
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He's also saying no Prem team came in for him really or he would have gone.
What;s "the right club in the PL" if you are ambitious and want to play there?
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Agreed. Speaks volumes.
Good luck to him, money above ambition.
Bizarre that we orchestrate a deal that is dependent on the success of a rival. Surely there's a conflict of interest here.....
comment by LeedsRich - Bielsaball (U18097)
posted 58 minutes ago
players are all giving him much more love on social media than for example saiz got when he left
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Saiz hasn't left....
Gelder
Think everyone knows, what he’s like, he’s been like this from day one.
My point is, he’s been here 3 years, now all of sudden he’s bad for the group.
Hang on, why was he signed after a loan and why wasn’t he shipped out long before.
This is simply, the manager and him don’t see things, the same way, nothing more, nothing less.
Good luck to him, money above ambition.
————————————
What’s with snide comment, why do you always have to be like this with every player who leaves, why is the outgoing player always the bad guy.
Read what he’s actually said
He wants to play in premier league
What’s wrong with that
He then said he didn’t want to risk, waiting around for a premier club and risk this move
What’s wrong with that ???
He also said he had offers from abroad but really settled In England and wanted to stay.
What’s wrong with that ???
Stop being so bitter in yer life
... because this manager felt the pros outweighed the cons and the others didn’t - and sometimes relationships deteriorate or a straw breaks the camel’s back.
I agree this was purely Marcelo's decision. Where others have let Pontus be Pontus it seems Bielsa doesn't want him around the place anymore.
Its a shame, he's been colossal for us and he seemed to get what being Leeds was.
We need a replacement in this week or things could turn nasty. Ben White can not be passed off as a starter.
comment by LIW Radchancer (U8453)
posted 3 minutes ago
Good luck to him, money above ambition.
————————————
What’s with snide comment, why do you always have to be like this with every player who leaves, why is the outgoing player always the bad guy.
Read what he’s actually said
He wants to play in premier league
What’s wrong with that
He then said he didn’t want to risk, waiting around for a premier club and risk this move
What’s wrong with that ???
He also said he had offers from abroad but really settled In England and wanted to stay.
What’s wrong with that ???
Stop being so bitter in yer life
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Again your blanket wide of the mark comments Wakey. Not bitter at all. I'd prefer him to have stayed. Brentford is hardly the best destination to fulfil your professional ambitions. Or do you think differently?
If a player chose Wigan Athletic over Leeds United simply because they were paying more what would you say?
I think Pontus could do a job in the Premier League. This was a deal rushed through.
Remarkable that you choose to highlight one of many comments I've made, simply cos it's the one you can make detrimental comments about. Shows a lack of creativity me old mucker.
I'm only shocked that you haven't made a link to Cellino and my apparent endorsement of everything he did. You said the same about me and Bates too until you acknowledged I'd never liked the two-faced old toad.
Gelder
And if the manager, doesn’t want him around, I actually don’t mind that, the manager need to have his players.
What I don’t like, is the character assassination of every player that ever leaves.
And I think this, as devalued the player and wrongly
Again your blanket wide of the mark comments Wakey. Not bitter at all. I'd prefer him to have stayed. Brentford is hardly the best destination to fulfil your professional ambitions. Or do you think d
————————————————
So what did you want him to do ???
He couldn’t stay at Leeds.
He said he didn’t have any offer from the prem.
I really don’t understand, what you think he could have done.
And Brentford, really aren’t big payers, are they
It's plain as day – Pontus is trying to save face by saying he was only sold to because the club needed cash. And who can blame him – being rejected by the club you thought you were an invaluable part of is a big knock to your professional pride. We wish the guy well and just hope he doesn't find the net in our first game against Brentford.
Agreed LIW really sad that a player who has been good for us for 3 years is suddenly a bad apple and we have to get rid. We will see who is brought in to replace him but I would be surprised if they are as good as PJ
I don't understand the fee at all, he is a £12m defender in this current market at least, we have made a mess of it that's for sure.
I don't blame Bielsa or Jansson, players come and go but you make sure you get what they are worth. We have a knack at doing the opposite.
comment by LIW Radchancer (U8453)
posted 5 minutes ago
Gelder
And if the manager, doesn’t want him around, I actually don’t mind that, the manager need to have his players.
What I don’t like, is the character assassination of every player that ever leaves.
And I think this, as devalued the player and wrongly
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Social media is full of people assassinating PJ, which I disagree with. Personally i'm just trying to make sense, in amongst disappointment at him leaving, of the what's and why's of it all.
These boards are pretty tame. most are just confused and trying to discuss and give opinions. No one knows for sure.
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posted on 9/7/19
He’s been here three years
Now all of a sudden, we start hearing rumours
Think about it, and think why these rumours are getting spread
posted on 9/7/19
My guess is he was out the door the minute he disobeyed MB during the Villa debacle.
The only surprise is how long it's taken.
He's had a strong character throughout his time with us. Rumours aren't recent there's been other stuff before. He's shown petulance before, quite openly.
If we want promotion we need players of his ability on the pitch. Sometimes you have to work with characters for the greater good.
posted on 9/7/19
6 of one, half a dozen of another. Always the same, club will try to defend its position and the player will try to come out of it head held high.
This has been driven by Bielsa and I hope that Bielsa et al have a plan B catering for life after PJ. We weren't blessed in the defensive department last term and there's no doubt that it cost us too.
We need two more centre halves, one at least in the same bracket as Pontus. We need another keeper, a good experienced holding midfielder and at least one proven striker, possibly two if Roofe walks....
I'm not sure we can repeat last season's exploits so I feel play-offs is the best we can hope for if we can do the above.
Of course....., quality signings maketh the difference and astute moves in the transfer market could make us the team to beat.
posted on 9/7/19
players are all giving him much more love on social media than for example saiz got when he left
posted on 9/7/19
comment by Stevie Dee (U10061)
posted 2 minutes ago
6 of one, half a dozen of another. Always the same, club will try to defend its position and the player will try to come out of it head held high.
This has been driven by Bielsa and I hope that Bielsa et al have a plan B catering for life after PJ. We weren't blessed in the defensive department last term and there's no doubt that it cost us too.
We need two more centre halves, one at least in the same bracket as Pontus. We need another keeper, a good experienced holding midfielder and at least one proven striker, possibly two if Roofe walks....
I'm not sure we can repeat last season's exploits so I feel play-offs is the best we can hope for if we can do the above.
Of course....., quality signings maketh the difference and astute moves in the transfer market could make us the team to beat.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed Stevie, however recent experience suggests we never replace like with like. It is always someone with "potential" or who has failed elsewhere and has a "point to prove" or has a long history of injuries but is over that now and ready to push on....
I sincerely hope we do not but if we lose Philips and Roofe as well I and I suspect a lot of others will find it hard to be upbeat about the season coming
posted on 9/7/19
Didnt Monk have an issue with him?
posted on 9/7/19
Latest from him:
Jansson on Brentford: ““My ambition is to play in the Premier League but I didn’t want to sit & wait for the right club in the PL to make an offer later in the summer and let this chance [to join Brentford] pass me by. I felt early on Brentford was right for me.” #lufc
posted on 9/7/19
comment by 🎤Mike drop🎤 (U15513)
posted 20 seconds ago
Didnt Monk have an issue with him?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, he refused to use his agent
posted on 9/7/19
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 35 seconds ago
Latest from him:
Jansson on Brentford: ““My ambition is to play in the Premier League but I didn’t want to sit & wait for the right club in the PL to make an offer later in the summer and let this chance [to join Brentford] pass me by. I felt early on Brentford was right for me.” #lufc
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He's saying Brentford won't be in the Premier League.....
posted on 9/7/19
comment by Stevie Dee (U10061)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 35 seconds ago
Latest from him:
Jansson on Brentford: ““My ambition is to play in the Premier League but I didn’t want to sit & wait for the right club in the PL to make an offer later in the summer and let this chance [to join Brentford] pass me by. I felt early on Brentford was right for me.” #lufc
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He's saying Brentford won't be in the Premier League.....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He's also saying no Prem team came in for him really or he would have gone.
What;s "the right club in the PL" if you are ambitious and want to play there?
posted on 9/7/19
comment by LIW Radchancer (U8453)
posted 58 minutes ago
He’s been here three years
Now all of a sudden, we start hearing rumours
Think about it, and think why these rumours are getting spread
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's simply not true though is it, rumours have been around for long time that he's a bit selfish and he's had rows in training before.
Shouldn't matter as he does it on the pitch and I'm gutted he's gone, but these aren't new revelations
posted on 9/7/19
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Stevie Dee (U10061)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 35 seconds ago
Latest from him:
Jansson on Brentford: ““My ambition is to play in the Premier League but I didn’t want to sit & wait for the right club in the PL to make an offer later in the summer and let this chance [to join Brentford] pass me by. I felt early on Brentford was right for me.” #lufc
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He's saying Brentford won't be in the Premier League.....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He's also saying no Prem team came in for him really or he would have gone.
What;s "the right club in the PL" if you are ambitious and want to play there?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed. Speaks volumes.
Good luck to him, money above ambition.
Bizarre that we orchestrate a deal that is dependent on the success of a rival. Surely there's a conflict of interest here.....
posted on 9/7/19
FFP rules?
posted on 9/7/19
comment by LeedsRich - Bielsaball (U18097)
posted 58 minutes ago
players are all giving him much more love on social media than for example saiz got when he left
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Saiz hasn't left....
posted on 9/7/19
Gelder
Think everyone knows, what he’s like, he’s been like this from day one.
My point is, he’s been here 3 years, now all of sudden he’s bad for the group.
Hang on, why was he signed after a loan and why wasn’t he shipped out long before.
This is simply, the manager and him don’t see things, the same way, nothing more, nothing less.
posted on 9/7/19
Good luck to him, money above ambition.
————————————
What’s with snide comment, why do you always have to be like this with every player who leaves, why is the outgoing player always the bad guy.
Read what he’s actually said
He wants to play in premier league
What’s wrong with that
He then said he didn’t want to risk, waiting around for a premier club and risk this move
What’s wrong with that ???
He also said he had offers from abroad but really settled In England and wanted to stay.
What’s wrong with that ???
Stop being so bitter in yer life
posted on 9/7/19
... because this manager felt the pros outweighed the cons and the others didn’t - and sometimes relationships deteriorate or a straw breaks the camel’s back.
posted on 9/7/19
I agree this was purely Marcelo's decision. Where others have let Pontus be Pontus it seems Bielsa doesn't want him around the place anymore.
Its a shame, he's been colossal for us and he seemed to get what being Leeds was.
We need a replacement in this week or things could turn nasty. Ben White can not be passed off as a starter.
posted on 9/7/19
comment by LIW Radchancer (U8453)
posted 3 minutes ago
Good luck to him, money above ambition.
————————————
What’s with snide comment, why do you always have to be like this with every player who leaves, why is the outgoing player always the bad guy.
Read what he’s actually said
He wants to play in premier league
What’s wrong with that
He then said he didn’t want to risk, waiting around for a premier club and risk this move
What’s wrong with that ???
He also said he had offers from abroad but really settled In England and wanted to stay.
What’s wrong with that ???
Stop being so bitter in yer life
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Again your blanket wide of the mark comments Wakey. Not bitter at all. I'd prefer him to have stayed. Brentford is hardly the best destination to fulfil your professional ambitions. Or do you think differently?
If a player chose Wigan Athletic over Leeds United simply because they were paying more what would you say?
I think Pontus could do a job in the Premier League. This was a deal rushed through.
Remarkable that you choose to highlight one of many comments I've made, simply cos it's the one you can make detrimental comments about. Shows a lack of creativity me old mucker.
I'm only shocked that you haven't made a link to Cellino and my apparent endorsement of everything he did. You said the same about me and Bates too until you acknowledged I'd never liked the two-faced old toad.
posted on 9/7/19
Gelder
And if the manager, doesn’t want him around, I actually don’t mind that, the manager need to have his players.
What I don’t like, is the character assassination of every player that ever leaves.
And I think this, as devalued the player and wrongly
posted on 9/7/19
Again your blanket wide of the mark comments Wakey. Not bitter at all. I'd prefer him to have stayed. Brentford is hardly the best destination to fulfil your professional ambitions. Or do you think d
————————————————
So what did you want him to do ???
He couldn’t stay at Leeds.
He said he didn’t have any offer from the prem.
I really don’t understand, what you think he could have done.
And Brentford, really aren’t big payers, are they
posted on 9/7/19
It's plain as day – Pontus is trying to save face by saying he was only sold to because the club needed cash. And who can blame him – being rejected by the club you thought you were an invaluable part of is a big knock to your professional pride. We wish the guy well and just hope he doesn't find the net in our first game against Brentford.
posted on 9/7/19
Agreed LIW really sad that a player who has been good for us for 3 years is suddenly a bad apple and we have to get rid. We will see who is brought in to replace him but I would be surprised if they are as good as PJ
posted on 9/7/19
I don't understand the fee at all, he is a £12m defender in this current market at least, we have made a mess of it that's for sure.
I don't blame Bielsa or Jansson, players come and go but you make sure you get what they are worth. We have a knack at doing the opposite.
posted on 9/7/19
comment by LIW Radchancer (U8453)
posted 5 minutes ago
Gelder
And if the manager, doesn’t want him around, I actually don’t mind that, the manager need to have his players.
What I don’t like, is the character assassination of every player that ever leaves.
And I think this, as devalued the player and wrongly
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Social media is full of people assassinating PJ, which I disagree with. Personally i'm just trying to make sense, in amongst disappointment at him leaving, of the what's and why's of it all.
These boards are pretty tame. most are just confused and trying to discuss and give opinions. No one knows for sure.
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